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Largest and Most Intense Tropical Cyclone On Record Hits the Philippines

Soulskill posted about 5 months ago | from the be-safe dept.

Earth 160

mrspoonsi writes "A monstrous storm has arisen in the Western Pacific. The storm, called 'Supter-Typhoon Haiyan', has become the year's most intense. It bore down on the central Philippines this morning, packing winds up to 195 mph (314 km/h), with gusts up to 235 mph (378 km/h), threatening massive damage and sending over 100,000 people into evacuation centers. (Animation of landfall.) Flood waters went as high as 10 feet. The secretary general of the Philippine National Red Cross said, 'About 90% of the infrastructure and establishments were heavily damaged.'"

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Typhoons are ranked my pressure, not winds (5, Informative)

xmas2003 (739875) | about 5 months ago | (#45368153)

From the article:

It's estimated central pressure is 899 mb but it could be lower. The lower the pressure the stronger the storm. Since 1987, there have been only four storms in the western Pacific with a central pressure below 899 mb (Megi in 2010, 885 mb; Flo in 1990 890 mb; Ruth in 1991 895 mb; and Yuri in 1991 895 mb)

Re:Typhoons are ranked my pressure, not winds (4, Informative)

JoeyRox (2711699) | about 5 months ago | (#45368417)

There is a correlation between central pressure and wind speed but there are other factors affecting wind speed, such as the storm's mass (size) and wind mixing depths. This is why the NHC uses dropsondes rather than relying on pressure measurements or satellite estimates.

Re:Typhoons are ranked my pressure, not winds (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45369387)

So is this storm powerful enough to cross over into the North Indian ocean basin? coz I think they had one this year which was a little weaker than this fellow, and it crossed over from the Gulf of Thailand into the Andaman Sea. hell, is that even possible for a storm to retain it's strength even after passing over land?

Re:Typhoons are ranked my pressure, not winds (4, Informative)

afidel (530433) | about 5 months ago | (#45368749)

There's only been ONE hurricane to ever make landfall in the US with that low a pressure, the 1935 labor day hurricane. To put the numbers in perspective Sandy made landfall at 945mb and Katrina at 920mb.

Re:Typhoons are ranked my pressure, not winds (4, Informative)

ShanghaiBill (739463) | about 5 months ago | (#45369299)

There's only been ONE hurricane to ever make landfall in the US with that low a pressure, the 1935 labor day hurricane.

Hurricanes (and typhoons) lose strength when they move over cooler water, so the strongest storms are those that stay in the tropics as they proceed westward. So the most intense Atlantic storms make landfall in Central America rather than the US coast. Wilma (2005) was the most intense Atlantic storm ever recorded, at 882 mbar, and Gilbert was a close second at 882 mbar. Both made landfall in Central America.

Re:Typhoons are ranked my pressure, not winds (2)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | about 5 months ago | (#45369647)

And the Pacific basin is larger. More space for the hurricane to develop without hitting land.

Manbearpig in 5...4...3... (-1, Offtopic)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about 5 months ago | (#45368171)

Manbearpig in 5...4...3...

Re:Manbearpig in 5...4...3... (0, Troll)

i kan reed (749298) | about 5 months ago | (#45368299)

I also can't demonstrate my points in reality, and rely on fiction as the entire basis of my perspectives. Let's have an Atlas Shrugged party together(BYOB, parasites).

Re:Manbearpig in 5...4...3... (1)

Dunbal (464142) | about 5 months ago | (#45368361)

The preceeding post clearly demonstrates factual points in a real manner.

Re:Manbearpig in 5...4...3... (1)

i kan reed (749298) | about 5 months ago | (#45368433)

Could you pretend to have a point? In the context of the post, I was pretending to not care about facts at all; including a factual argument would have weakened the point.

Re:Manbearpig in 5...4...3... (5, Funny)

fermion (181285) | about 5 months ago | (#45368469)

Yes. Obama created this storm to destroy his Kenyan birth certificate that his mother secreted at an Indonesia Bank as it was foretold by a witch doctor before his birth that he would one day be president and it would be necessary to conspire to plant a fake birth certificate and an announcement in a Hawaii while securely deposited the real documents in a place far from the reach of the Fancy Haired One that would someday come searching for it. This not so farfetched. I have seen many claims that this supernatural powered president created Sandy to win the election. Two Sup(t)er Storms! How grand.

Re:Manbearpig in 5...4...3... (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about 5 months ago | (#45369297)

Yes. Obama created this storm to destroy his Kenyan birth certificate that his mother secreted at an Indonesia Bank ...

Really? I heard that was all just a plot to help hide the fact that Obama is a lizard man* [theatlanticwire.com] and Biden used to wear a mullet [hotair.com] (party on Joe!).

* That was enlightening. There are some Slashdotters I can peg to a number of those theories..

Re: Manbearpig in 5...4...3... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45369245)

This storm is clearly a false flag operation intended to take away attention from Obamas obsession with denying our second amendment rights.

Re: Manbearpig in 5...4...3... (1)

DexterIsADog (2954149) | about 5 months ago | (#45369901)

Exactly. But Obama's even trickier than that... he hides his bias against guns by cleverly signing bills to increase places people can take them. National parks and Amtrak. Diabolical!

oh noes (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368225)

My god, there is bad weather on the earth, *gasp* who would have thought!

Re:oh noes (5, Insightful)

captainpanic (1173915) | about 5 months ago | (#45368269)

I would say that a huge storm that can possibly make millions of people homeless, and kill thousands would definitely fit the description "stuff that matters".

Re:oh noes (2)

Krojack (575051) | about 5 months ago | (#45368363)

But what can the /. community do? We're all underpaid tech nerds living off Ramen noodles. =(

Re:oh noes (1)

AndrewBuck (1120597) | about 5 months ago | (#45368939)

You can help out directly by creating an account on openstreetmap.org and then helping to map the buildings in the (likely) most affected city of Tacloban. We have set up a task manager job to track the progress of the mapping work at the link below. Every little bit of extra mapping work helps out first responders by giving them a better picture of where aid is likely to be needed. Imagine trying to navigate around a city of 200,000 people without decent maps and then on top of that, a city where many roads might be blocked or flooded, preventing you from taking what is normally the most direct route. Having buildings mapped also helps signifigantly with damage assessments that are also critical to relief work.

http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/338 [hotosm.org]

Re:oh noes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45369145)

But what can the /. community do? We're all underpaid tech nerds living off Ramen noodles. =(

Sounds a lot like offshore workers in the Phillipines.

Re:oh noes (0, Flamebait)

Dunbal (464142) | about 5 months ago | (#45368383)

The storm isn't killing anyone or making them homeless. Poor planning, over population, and lack of education are.

Re:oh noes (-1, Troll)

Pino Grigio (2232472) | about 5 months ago | (#45368465)

Someone with a brain please mod this guy up ^.

Re:oh noes (2, Insightful)

Sique (173459) | about 5 months ago | (#45369185)

Someone with a brain mod the grandparent flamebait. Poor planning doesn't kill. Planks falling down from houses do. Poor planning, overpopulation and lack of education just decrease the life expectation by increasing the chance of an early death.

Re:oh noes (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368497)

How you doing, Nazi sympathizer? Still wanting more of that Nazi cock?

Re:oh noes (3, Insightful)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 5 months ago | (#45368531)

Yeah how dare they live where natural disasters could hit! They should be in one of the few regions in North America or Europe which have an unusually low number of natural disasters. Anywhere else and you might as well be sitting on god's shooting range like those crazy Japanese who nobody ever offers aid to due to their recklessness.

Re:oh noes (2)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 5 months ago | (#45369217)

People are welcome to live where they want, but it does help to build something strong enough to keep the rain out. There is no such thing as a 'natural' disaster. Poverty and corruption and negligence are responsible for the suffering.

Re:oh noes (2)

DexterIsADog (2954149) | about 5 months ago | (#45369967)

Walk up to a New Jerseyite whose beach house on LBI was flattened by Sandy and tell him it wasn't a natural disaster, it was "corruption and negligence" (not poverty, those houses aren't cheap). Go ahead, tell him that. Then report back your findings.

Re:oh noes (3, Insightful)

westlake (615356) | about 5 months ago | (#45369607)

Yeah how dare they live where natural disasters could hit! They should be in one of the few regions in North America or Europe which have an unusually low number of natural disasters.

People tend to live in places which have some unique economic advantage: fertile ground, a navigable river or deep water port. The miner will be looking for mountain-building, the rancher, grasslands on which to raise cattle. To get what you want you can't always play it safe.

Re:oh noes (1)

sl4shd0rk (755837) | about 5 months ago | (#45368695)

efinitely fit the description "stuff that matters".

Yes, it matters on the whole. No, it doesn't really belong on a tech news website, but then again, a good percentage of the stuff coming through the firehose is tabloid tripe these days.

I don't have anything against helping people out but I read /. to get away from the drama of reality for awhile. You might as well put one of those stupid red tickers at the bottom of the page and be done with it.

Re:oh noes (2)

gmuslera (3436) | about 5 months ago | (#45368565)

This one goes beyond the bad category, is not the same falling from a chair than falling from the top of a building. We are getting a hint on how bad could be "extreme" weather, much stronger than Sandy and Katrina. You really don't want any of this "bad weather" hit any place near you, and it could become the new normal.

You didn't, for a start. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368723)

Ever watched TV?

Ever noticed that EVERY SINGLE NEWS segment ends with a "look at the weather".

Weather.

News.

You wouldn't believe it, would you.

Re:You didn't, for a start. (1)

fustakrakich (1673220) | about 5 months ago | (#45369253)

It's called a 'tease'. The weather segment gets the highest ad rates. It doesn't matter that the department is run by soothsayers.

Name (1)

schneidafunk (795759) | about 5 months ago | (#45368231)

In the Philippines they call it Yolanda. Why does it have two different names?

Re:Name (4, Informative)

captainpanic (1173915) | about 5 months ago | (#45368313)

Haiyan is the name given to the super typhoon by the World Meteorological Organization (source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24863480 [bbc.co.uk] )

What I understood is that the Philippines counts the number of storms that hit the country (this is the 25th this year!!), so in their counting, it gets a name with a Y. (Source: http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2013/11/08/from-haiyan-to-yolanda-how-the-philippines-names-its-storms/ [wsj.com] )

Re:Name (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368339)

The World Meteorological Organization coordinates storm naming using a list of names contributed by various countries. [wikipedia.org] The Philippines uses its own naming system for any storm that approaches their "area of responsibility" in addition to the international name.

Re:Name (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368709)

The WMO's naming chief has an ex wife called Yolanda, and that bitch never blew anything in her life.

Oh, Look It's a Disaster! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368253)

Lets all wrap flags around our dicks and wave them.

Not global warming (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368259)

Higher ocean temperatures cause stronger storms.

It's important to the oil companies that pay me to ignore science that I tell you -

This is not global warming.

It's a man, or a pig. Or a man-bear-pig.

This off-the-charts definitely not caused by the coal power plants which power your house, and power the Chinese factories that build your crap.

Mobilize the Help Now (3, Insightful)

b4upoo (166390) | about 5 months ago | (#45368277)

I imagine the suffering from this storm will be severe and can only hope that the help was mobilized before the storm struck. These storm victims are going to need everything to survive. Food, housing and medical care as well as tools and livestock to start over could save countless lives. Imagine a storm that severe striking Miami or New York.

Re:Mobilize the Help Now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368493)

Sorry. Our country is broke. We have thousands of homeless ourselves. Plenty of jobless. And people even starving to death and dying due to lack of proper medical care.

Other countries are going to have to take care of themselves for awhile. We're broke. After we get places like detroit fixed up again we'll be back to saving the world.
Until then. Nope. Sorry. We're in no position to help any other nations citizens. We can't even take care of our own. Frankly we're fucked.

Re:Mobilize the Help Now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368693)

Unless of course we see another country that needs invading, or another billionaire banker robber baron who needs a handout. In that case, we'll find a way, somehow, to come up with the money. Maybe cutting school lunch programs...

Re:Mobilize the Help Now (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368725)

We can send you some bankers. We have lots of those. That should help. Right?

We can also spare some telephone sanitizers...

Level 7 on modified Saffir scale (4, Interesting)

peter303 (12292) | about 5 months ago | (#45368291)

The Saffir scale tops out Level 5, > 157 mph. But each level increases about 20-25 mph. It is essentially a 500 mile wide tornado.

Re:Level 7 on modified Saffir scale (1)

olsmeister (1488789) | about 5 months ago | (#45368379)

And as the wind power increases as the cube of the wind speed, a level 5 can do substantially more damage than a level 4.

Re:Level 7 on modified Saffir scale (2)

CastrTroy (595695) | about 5 months ago | (#45368385)

I saw the number 500, and immediately thought of this [imdb.com]. While not quite 500 MPH, this one got up to 378 km/h, which makes me think 500 km/h isn't impossible. Living in Canada, in an area where there fiercest winds we have are 100 km/h, It's hard to imaging how strong a 378 km/h wind is. Especially since E = (m * v^2)/2. which means the Energy of the wind is increases as a function of the square of the speed.

Re:Level 7 on modified Saffir scale (4, Interesting)

Mashiki (184564) | about 5 months ago | (#45368479)

Living in Canada, in an area where there fiercest winds we have are 100 km/h

Really? Really? Come on man, I'm in Alberta right now and we see 120km/h and 130km/h gusts through the mountains, and we haven't even hit on tornado's, updrafts(favorite in southern ontario), microbursts, and those lovely unpredictable t-storms in the summer that spawn in the lakes, or prairies. We sure do see winds higher than 100km/h.

Re:Level 7 on modified Saffir scale (1)

lookingglass (2935519) | about 5 months ago | (#45368571)

Yes we see wind gusts well over 100KM/H, but very little sustained like what would would get out of a hurricane. It makes a large difference on structures. Even those storms that pass by the east coats rarely step over that threshold.

Re:Level 7 on modified Saffir scale (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | about 5 months ago | (#45368663)

Canada's a big place. I live near in Ottawa. Rarely do we see sustained winds above 100 km/h. No tornados in this area either (although further south in Ontario sees a few small ones).

Supter-Typhoon? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368293)

never heard of one of those.. must be new.

-db

This proves global warming is a hoax. (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368347)

Everybody knows wind is cold.

Re:This proves global warming is a hoax. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368791)

Everybody knows wind is cold.

Never ridden a motorcycle in 43C/110F day? That wind feels like a hair dryer set on Hot/High.

Not Climate Change (0, Troll)

hoboroadie (1726896) | about 5 months ago | (#45368357)

Remember kids, this is weather, not climate, and just natural a oscillation of the normal pattern.
We sure couldn't afford to have this sort of shit every year.

Re:Not Climate Change (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368413)

Actually climate is just weather over time. This is the largest typhoon to hit land in MEASURED HUMAN HISTORY OF WINDSPEED.

So you don't actually know enough to say it's a "natural" oscillation. This is why you shouldn't pretend to understand climatology.

Re:Not Climate Change (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368515)

I think you might just have been WHOOSHED by winds of over 195mph.

We sure couldn't afford to have this sort of shit every year.

Sounds like ironic sarcasm to me.

Re:Not Climate Change (1)

Pino Grigio (2232472) | about 5 months ago | (#45368519)

It's pretty easy to say it's just a natural oscillation. "hurricane frequency and intensity vary naturally over time". There.

You could make the stronger statement, "hurricane frequency and intensity are strongly influenced by a trace gas in the atmosphere that it is hypothesised strongly influences the Earth's radiative balance", but that would be extremely silly. Please also note that this is almost certainly more related to the PDO than it is to the SUV you almost certainly drive.

No, that was extremely silly. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368809)

Saying "but that would be extremely silly" is the extremely silly part.

Well, maybe saying this: "the SUV you almost certainly drive." tops it in crass stupidity, but it's a close run thing.

Here you go: CO2 isn't only a product of SUVs.

And that temperature? 33C of it is from the greenhouse gasses that blanket the earth, the single largest contributor that has no control to remove on a century to millenia timescale is CO2, the other (H2O) raining out within weeks and therefore not self-sustaining on even monthly scales.

So what do YOU think happens to temperatures when the CO2 is increased 40%?

H2O increases.

And that's the top two of the GHGs that caused that 33C warming.

So lets go along to this PDO. Thought question (I realise you're not equipped to actually think, but what the hell): if the earth were 50C colder, then how much would the same magnitude shift in the temperature of these waters that we currently get with PDO affect the climate?

Here's a hint: fuck all.

Because an oscillation doesn't cause hurricanes.

What DOES cause hurricanes?

Sea surface temperature is a big one.

And 33C of that temperature is due to GHGs that we've just upped one by 40%, increasing the effect of the other top contributor.

So what is that CO2 from your SUV doing that's so special it doesn't work like any other CO2 molecule?

Re:Not Climate Change (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368689)

Last recorded storm of this magnitude was 1979. What me? Read the article? Phshaw...

Expect a cooler winter next year. That is a massive heat dump out of the pacific.

Re:Not Climate Change (1)

NotFamous (827147) | about 5 months ago | (#45368655)

Actually, it is a result of Obamacare.

Re:Not Climate Change (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368739)

Actually, it is a result of Obamacare.

Really? I thought it was happening to foreign people that were un-American and used that new-fangled metric system and didn't have oil, so we didn't care one way or another about them.

The fault (-1, Troll)

Cro Magnon (467622) | about 5 months ago | (#45368369)

Surely, this storm was caused by Global Warming!

Re:The fault (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368451)

Why "blame" human emissions for being scientifically linked to warming which is also linked to larger storms?

Re:The fault (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368489)

Nanananananananana, I CAN'T HEAR YOU, Nanananananananana

Re:The fault (1, Troll)

lookingglass (2935519) | about 5 months ago | (#45368605)

This storm is weather. Global warming just makes it more likely that you will get this weather. So no, the storm was not caused by global warming.

typical American imperialism (-1, Troll)

Joining Yet Again (2992179) | about 5 months ago | (#45368377)

This would never have happened had the greedy American capitalists not occupied these peaceful islands. Even now people are shorter, lighter are more likely to be blown away in the very storms that the US army all but guaranteed would happen. Only a rebuilding of America under Libertarian ideals will allow the US to limit its military operations to defence as enumerated in THE CONSTITUTION.

~~ The tree of liberty must be fertilized with the blood of tyrants. ~~ Thomas Madison

Re:typical American imperialism (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368775)

Pssst... hey, buddy, if you're trying to make a joke, try to NOT make it sound word-for-word like what a libertarian whackjob would really say.

Unless you seriously believe that drivel, in which case, well, I have to admit, you're definitely the better joke.

Re:typical American imperialism (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45369153)

No, you stole them. We saw you.

      - I'm no small Glurmo, but at least I'm from Oz...

Tornado the size of a hurricane (4, Informative)

karchie (560701) | about 5 months ago | (#45368459)

I'm no meteorologist but those wind speeds would make this an F4 tornado. We get tornadoes here in the middle of North America, but they don't last for days. Good luck to everybody there.

Where "on record" means... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368569)

I'm assuming that by "on record" you mean a roughly 100 or perhaps (let's be generous) a 500 year period during which Western sailors might have known the area and kept logs. The 500 years is roughly 1/10th of human history, which is 0.005 of a million years during which human-like species roamed the planet. OK, human-like species were around longer than that; but let's keep it simple. Move the decimal again and you get into an era with no humans, but plenty of dinosaurs and shit. That's be the shitaceous era, which encompasses several other epochs. So. Our recorded history covers 0.0005 times that. I suppose it wouldn't be fair to go back to when the Earth was a molten glob and the proto-Moon collided with it. Now that's one helluva typhoon.

bet they are happy .... (2)

WindBourne (631190) | about 5 months ago | (#45368591)

That US bases there. Plenty of extra help.

Re:bet they are happy .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368865)

No US bases in philippines since 1992.

Re:bet they are happy .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45369393)

I know. :)

Though the Philippines now wants us back due to China.

Re:bet they are happy .... (2)

varmfskii (2910763) | about 5 months ago | (#45369633)

Can't have the U.S. back unless they amend their constitution. It currently prohibits the stationing of foriegn troops in the Philippines.

Some relief agencies (4, Informative)

cold fjord (826450) | about 5 months ago | (#45368641)

I'm sure that the relief agencies would be happy to take a donation. I think these are correct, but double check for yourself. I apologize for not including everybody, please don't let that stop you from making a donation.

American Red Cross [redcross.org]
British Red Cross [redcross.org.uk]
Canadian Red Cross [redcross.ca]
Australian Red Cross [redcross.org.au]
New Zealand Red Cross [redcross.org.nz]
Irish Red Cross [redcross.ie]
Deutsches Rotes Kreuz [www.drk.de]
Croix-Rouge Francaise [croix-rouge.fr]
Röda Korset [redcross.se]
Røde Kors [rodekors.no]
Røde Kors [rodekors.dk]
Rode Kruis [rodekruis.nl]
Schweizerisches Rotes Kreuz [redcross.ch]
Croce Rossa Italiana [cri.it]
Cruz Roja Española [cruzroja.es]
Polski Czerwony Krzyz [www.pck.pl]

Salvation Army donations [salvationarmy.org]

Re:Some relief agencies (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368729)

I can't donate because they don't accept Bitcoins or World of Warcraft gold.

Not for anything (1)

kilodelta (843627) | about 5 months ago | (#45368765)

But winds of 195MPH and up would decimate most of the eastern coast of the U.S. that's insane.

Re:Not for anything (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368905)

Just hope the red light cameras get knocked out first. I'd hate to see the ticket when my car gets blown through a red light when moving near 200MPH!

Happy to help - You are welcome (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368777)

I am sure this means that the US government will be sending money and equipment their way at the expense of the US taxpayer.

Re:Happy to help - You are welcome (1)

ebno-10db (1459097) | about 5 months ago | (#45369527)

Good heavens, no! I hope that you and your family will be able to eat next year, despite the extra $5.27 you paid in federal taxes for foreign aid and relief. It accounts for a whopping 1% of the federal budget.

followup to recent 7.1 earthquake (4, Informative)

jcgam69 (994690) | about 5 months ago | (#45368787)

A magnitude 7.1 earthquake struck the PI a few weeks ago which cause widespread damage to buildings and infrastructure. Bridges collapsed and many roads are still impassible. The earthquake and hundreds of strong aftershocks serve to intensify the effects of this storm.

Re:followup to recent 7.1 earthquake (1)

The Raven (30575) | about 5 months ago | (#45369711)

A magnitude 7.1 earthquake struck the PI a few weeks ago which cause widespread damage to buildings and infrastructure. Bridges collapsed and many roads are still impassible. The earthquake and hundreds of strong aftershocks serve to intensify the effects of this storm.

In case it is not fully clear... the earthquake exacerbated the effect on human infrastructure and safety. It did not intensify the windspeed or lower the pressure of the storm.

I'm sure 99% of people will read it in this manner, I just want to forestall the 'earthquakes cause superstorms' correlation.

Soulskill gets it wrong -- yet again. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45368947)

What is with Soulskill's postings? Does he or she bother to check that the headline is consistent with the facts?

The linked article tells us that Typhoon Tip was the largest most intense storm. This storm is the largest and intense since Tip. Big difference.

Re:Soulskill gets it wrong -- yet again. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45369267)

That is from yesterday, it has gotten stronger since then.

Re:Soulskill gets it wrong -- yet again. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45369477)

No it hasn't. It's weakened over land.

And there's plenty of debate about the top speeds which have been inferred from satellite images. Speeds measured at the surface are much lower.

dry run (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45369129)

this is just to test the the new nuke reactors in vietnam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_energy_in_Vietnam

10 feet? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45369291)

How about using metric system (ISO standard)?

And nothing of value was lost (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45369309)

Most Intense Tropical Cyclone

Philippines

Will there be a backlog for hiring new cleaning ladies and dangerously illiterate nurses?

Typhoon Ida (1958) was more intense (2)

Sara Chan (138144) | about 5 months ago | (#45369421)

Typhoon Ida (1958) [wikipedia.org] had sustained winds of 200mph. That means that the energy in its winds was about 5% greater than the energy in the 195mph winds of Typhoon Haiyan (squaring speed to get approximate wind energy).
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