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MPAA Backs Anti-Piracy Curriculum For Elementary School Students

samzenpus posted about 5 months ago | from the think-of-the-children dept.

Piracy 250

An anonymous reader writes "A number of groups, including the MPAA, are pushing to educate elementary school kids about the dangers of piracy. From the article: 'A nonprofit group called the Center for Copyright Information, which is supported by the MPAA and other groups, has commissioned a school curriculum to teach elementary-age children about the value of copyrights. The proposed curriculum is still in draft stage, but it's already taking flak. Some critics say the curriculum promotes the biased agenda of Hollywood studios and music labels. Others contend it would use up valuable classroom time when U.S. public schools are already struggling to teach the basics.'"

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Re:Looks like yet-another dupe (2, Insightful)

harvestsun (2948641) | about 5 months ago | (#45394875)

This is honestly the worst series of articles I've ever seen in a single day on Slashdot.
A dupe, a movie advertisement, and 2 things which aren't even news.

Re:Looks like yet-another dupe (2)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395005)

You must be new here.

Re:Looks like yet-another dupe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395485)

Nope been a proud coward here since 2002 or so. but yes, today has been one of the works "news for nerds" days to date.

Re:Looks like yet-another dupe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395281)

This is honestly the worst series of articles I've ever seen in a single day on Slashdot.

A dupe, a movie advertisement, and 2 things which aren't even news.

Makes you nostalgic for the ol' Goatse days, does it?

Godwinned in One Post (2, Insightful)

ScottCooperDotNet (929575) | about 5 months ago | (#45394691)

The Nazis also pushed for youth indoctrination to attempt to create generations of followers. Glad DARE and MAFIAA learned the lesson.

Re:Godwinned in One Post (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45394931)

The Nazis and every other similar government uses indoctrination. It's much easier/cheap to teach kids how they must act than try to correct adults afterwards. If you think yours doesn't either you're from a weak country or it worked as expected.

Re:Godwinned in One Post (2)

0123456 (636235) | about 5 months ago | (#45394983)

The Prussians invented the modern school system for indoctrinating kids, and most Western nations copied it.

Biased (4, Insightful)

neghvar1 (1705616) | about 5 months ago | (#45394699)

Of course we all know this will be biased. Piracy funds terrorism, illegal drugs, crime and violence.

Re:Biased (1)

neghvar1 (1705616) | about 5 months ago | (#45394717)

also lead to mass layoff and unemployment and be the direct cause of the next great depression.

Re:Biased (4, Insightful)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 5 months ago | (#45395075)

also lead to mass layoff and unemployment and be the direct cause of the next great depression.

Hey, now, this is Slashdot; I'm sure, with our collective intellect, we could come up with a rationale explaining how media piracy is directly responsible for smallpox and the Holocaust.

At least, one equally as convincing as any argument the MPAA has made thus far; admittedly, it's really an easy task when you consider the fact we're talking about a group of people who once claimed to have lost more revenue to piracy than the combined GDP of the entire planet. Ridiculous is their bread-and-butter.

Re:Biased (2)

king neckbeard (1801738) | about 5 months ago | (#45395273)

Can't be bothered to follow through, but for Hitler, the fact that he was an artist and a pirate (he drew Disney characters) mean that it's a pretty easy one with a bit of work. Smallpox is a pretty tough one, unless we roll with the fact that smallpox spreads p2p like a torrent.

Re:Biased (1)

almitydave (2452422) | about 5 months ago | (#45395277)

also lead to mass layoff and unemployment and be the direct cause of the next great depression.

Hey, now, this is Slashdot; I'm sure, with our collective intellect, we could come up with a rationale explaining how media piracy is directly responsible for smallpox and the Holocaust.

If only people hadn't distributed illegal copies of Hitler's paintings...

If only unauthorized back-alley publishers distributing illegal copies of books hadn't used paper carrying the smallpox virus...

Re:Biased (2)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 5 months ago | (#45394777)

Of course we all know this will be biased. Piracy funds terrorism, illegal drugs, crime and violence.

Have they made any adjustments to the party line to deal with the fact that the economics of buying dodgy DVDs from some bloke down the pub and just torrenting everything are really quite dissimilar (and, indeed, likely direct rivals)?

It isn't rocket surgery to suspect, or even find the occasional confirmation in stories about some arrest, that people who deal in commodities that command a markup because they incur legal exposure will also deal in illicit media copies, since those are a commodity that commands a markup because it incurs legal exposure; but that flavor of skeezy vendor is probably the first against the wall when the ubiquitous online piracy starts up, since they offer none of the benefits of licit vendors and still cost considerably more than just downloading stuff.

Surely they have some heartbreaking story about the destruction of American Jobs and whatnot that covers the latter case?

Re:Biased (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45394805)

Of course we all know this will be biased. Piracy funds terrorism, illegal drugs, crime and violence.

It does? Oh my! Won't somebody think of the children??

Re:Biased (1)

Seumas (6865) | about 5 months ago | (#45395323)

Actual piracy, perhaps, but I've never understood the justification to applying all of this to a kid at home downloading a shitty rap album. Who is getting funded by the money he or she isn't giving anyone for the download?

Corproate Propaganda (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45394701)

Capitalism was a fun experiment.

Education? (5, Insightful)

IonOtter (629215) | about 5 months ago | (#45394703)

I respectfully submit a request to change the tag on this story from "education" to "indoctrination".

Re:Education? (3, Interesting)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 5 months ago | (#45394747)

Education would have at least some mention about the public domain and its advantages, and the fact that copyright is a privilege, not a right.

Re:Education? (2, Insightful)

penix1 (722987) | about 5 months ago | (#45395495)

Education would have at least some mention about the public domain and its advantages, and the fact that copyright is a privilege, not a right.

I am probably going to draw flack for this but WTF, here we go...

Article 1 Section 8 Clause 8 of the US Constitution makes it a right in the US. Besides that, let's play Devil's advocate here for a while:

Tell me just how an artist or distributor of content is supposed to make a living regardless of the length of time given for the "limited time" as listed in the Constitution? Right now, things are showing up on the illegal sites even before they are officially released by the rightful owner. Just how do you overcome that? Look at software piracy for example, as soon as a vendor of a popular program (think Photoshop) makes a new version, it is usually up at the torrent sites at most 2 days after initial release and sometimes before initial release. So just how are they to reap the benefits of their work when the next day it is being distributed with no benefits being returned?

Don't get me wrong, I do think the term of copyrights are too long. I also think the public domain is getting the shaft. But given that they can't win in today's connected world, just what is the solution? You see many here bitching about copyrights and the "old business model failure" but no proposals for how to realize benefit out of your hard work. Because you see, regardless of what you think as you download that pre-release program, it still boils down to putting food on the table for those making it to begin with.

Re:Education? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45394989)

It can be education. Accept the info package and dissect it in class, carefully explaining how it has been constructed for propaganda value and indoctrination only, including which methods are being used and, of course, the information that supports the counter position.

Could be a valuable lesson actually.

Re:Education? (1)

Xeno man (1614779) | about 5 months ago | (#45395267)

HA HA HA HA. Nice in theory but that is assuming you have intelligent teachers that know how to dissect something. Most can only follow the lesson plan as indicated and only will if it comes with an answer key.

Re:Education? (1)

loufoque (1400831) | about 5 months ago | (#45395067)

What's the difference?
Or do you refuse to acknowledge the bias in education?

Re:Education? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395353)

What? You're saying that the school system we have now indoctrinates people? Agreed, but let's not make it even worse.

If done correctly, I have no problem with this (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395293)

teach elementary-age children about the value of copyrights

Since copyright has no value, and shouldn't exist, this course shouldn't take very long.

Re:Education? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395423)

The real education comes when the kid doesn't get to watch the shows.

Good on them. (4, Insightful)

LWATCDR (28044) | about 5 months ago | (#45394705)

Movie execs need their private jets, blow, and hookers to relax after a hard day of not paying taxes and buying congress people.

Re:Good on them. (1)

Hognoxious (631665) | about 5 months ago | (#45394887)

Politics of envy! If you ain't one of them it's because you're lazy, stupid, or you don't love jeebus enough.

or a commanuss.

Re:Good on them. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395085)

I'd have said lazy, stupid, and doesn't love cocaine enough. Most elites understand that religion is hoax that's useful for controlling incurious people.

Oy, be good consumers (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45394729)

We don't teach our children to think, we teach them to consume.

Re:Oy, be good consumers (1)

almitydave (2452422) | about 5 months ago | (#45394975)

That's true. We should make sure we teach them the principles of justice, the value of honest labor, and the benefits of arts to culture and society. Then let them make an informed decision.

Piracy makes more sense if stuff is worth money (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45394763)

Lets say the world digitized everything we had, books, movies, video games. Then the poor would have more access to educational resources and would be more cultured! The Internet could be a giant library.

If we really said media had value, their argument gets worse for keeping it behind a pay wall. Lets say the average cost of media pieces are 2$, and people would use on average =25,000 more pieces of media because they were free. Then you have about 2 billion people who have access to this. The created wealth for the world instantly would be +2*25,000*2,000,000,000 or 100 trilion dollars of added wealth to the system! That isn't anything to sneeze at.

The argument all the kneejerkers all say is that people would stop making media for cash. And yes, suddenly only people who strongly believed in sharing with the world would still make media. This means the little guy would have more power of expression. If big projects needed to be made, we could just have projects like kickstart do them.

People could still do some stuff behind a paywall like subscription based video games if they could.

My own personal idea is that copyright/patents should only last like 5-7 years, then everything is in public domain. This way the old guard could still keep plugging on to a degree.

Re:Piracy makes more sense if stuff is worth money (4, Insightful)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 5 months ago | (#45394817)

Agreed.

Copyright keeps culture "hostage". No one is allowed to enjoy unless they pay-to-play. Short-term profit over long-term benefits to society.

Re:Piracy makes more sense if stuff is worth money (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45394845)

For some reason I hear John Lennon's "Imagine" in my head right now. I wonder if the RIAA will want to send me a bill for that.

Re:Piracy makes more sense if stuff is worth money (1)

zlives (2009072) | about 5 months ago | (#45394959)

damn it, now you made me listen to it in my head... now you are distributing it illegally and just made me a pirate.

Re:Piracy makes more sense if stuff is worth money (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395139)

Yeah, the words of a man who became a multi-millionnaire many times over really make me appreciate how everything should be equal and no-one should profit from the system!

Re:Piracy makes more sense if stuff is worth money (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | about 5 months ago | (#45394957)

Let's also keep in mind that this is what copyright was supposed to be for in the first place!

Re:Piracy makes more sense if stuff is worth money (1)

exomondo (1725132) | about 5 months ago | (#45395051)

The argument all the kneejerkers all say is that people would stop making media for cash. And yes, suddenly only people who strongly believed in sharing with the world would still make media. This means the little guy would have more power of expression. If big projects needed to be made, we could just have projects like kickstart do them.

The point to remember is that this can be done now, if it is viable then it can be proven and if it is indeed better then piracy and copyright will be a non-issue anyway. It's a nice idea you've got there but it seems pretty much nobody actually wants to do it.

Re:Piracy makes more sense if stuff is worth money (2)

almitydave (2452422) | about 5 months ago | (#45395115)

My own personal idea is that copyright/patents should only last like 5-7 years, then everything is in public domain. This way the old guard could still keep plugging on to a degree.

Although I agree that the current copyright term is ridiculously long, effectively preventing any work from being open to the culture that created it, I think 5-7 years may be a little short. I've wondered about an automatic 14 year term for all works (like current automatic copyright), plus a 14-year extension for $$$$, for 28 years max. These numbers are based on an older copyright term, but are still basically arbitrary. You want to strike a balance between culture having free access to art in a timely manner, and protecting the ability of the artists to profit from their work. How long is too long? How long is long enough?

I would guess that the minimum length should be generally long enough for a producer of art to recoup the costs of production, but this may vary considerably by medium. GTA V made its budget back in what, 12 hours?

Re:Piracy makes more sense if stuff is worth money (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395203)

Copyright should definitely not be a means for a producer to make sure he can recoup the costs of production - there should still be pressure to actually produce good content to make a profit.
The duration should be set to the average time it takes to produce a new work, that way we can at least pretend content creators are actually paid for working, rather having worked some time in the past.

Re:Piracy makes more sense if stuff is worth money (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 5 months ago | (#45395285)

What about the remake of Star Wars: Episode IV? It's old footage sprinkled with new special effects, how would your system work on that? Also, I think there's been a "director's cut/final/definitive/etc" Blade Runner release every five years for over two or three decades now. If they already do it to make more money, do you really think they're not going to use that trick to lock their movies/etc forever?

There would need to be provisions in place so that releasing a new shorter/longer/modified version would not affect the previous releases.

Re:Piracy makes more sense if stuff is worth money (1)

Musc (10581) | about 5 months ago | (#45395451)

> that way we can at least pretend content creators are actually paid for working, rather having worked some time in the past.

I'm torn on this issue.
The question in my hand is what is fair to the producers but also fair to the consumers.
I can see two sides to the issue.

On the one hand, I think that the amount of pay you get should be proportional to the amount of work you do.
If you get twice as much work done in a day, you should get twice the pay. If, in your past, you spent your time learning skills that now enable you
to work twice as fast, then your hourly rate should be double. It seems absurd to do some amount of work once, like to write a song, and expect to get paid over and over again, each time someone new wants to hear the song. You didn't do more work, so why do you deserve more pay?

But on the other hand, how do you know what someone's work is worth?
If 10 people enjoy my song, but 10 milion people enjoy your song, then it might seem fair to say that your work in creating one song was of 10 million times the value of the work I put into making my song. If a song is worth a dollar to a listener, then I get 10 bucks, you get 10 million. Copyright is a system that tries to enforce this ideal.

On the third hand, why should your desire to be paid for your intellectual work trump my rights to manipulate bits on the physical media that I own, that I paid for and purchased with my hard work?

Re:Piracy makes more sense if stuff is worth money (1)

cheekyjohnson (1873388) | about 5 months ago | (#45395311)

My own personal idea is that copyright/patents should only last like 5-7 years, then everything is in public domain.

I have an idea that I think is even easier, and ultimately, would make society more free: Get rid of copyrights and patents.

Re:Piracy makes more sense if stuff is worth money (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 5 months ago | (#45395337)

The argument all the kneejerkers all say is that people would stop making media for cash.

Sounds good to me.

Nobody was part of the Renaissance to make cash.

DARE (5, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | about 5 months ago | (#45394769)

This is just like the pharmaceutical industry funding D.A.R.E..

Re:DARE (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395039)

Well, not quite. The pharmaceutical industry also has an interest in people using prescription drugs only as instructed on the label.

See, when you're dealing with biotech, there's a lot more that can go wrong than someone with no prescriptions dosing up some random weed from their basement greenhouse. While life in general and humans in specific can tolerate a fairly significant amount of chemical interference, prescription drugs have a tendency to get very close to the breaking point, where a little added alcohol, tobacco, or illegal drug of your choice could react poorly and lethally. Drug interactions can be very powerful, and while most recreational drugs are minor compared to even caffeine, a generation making themselves untreatable because of unexpected drug interactions is generally undesirable.

As for MPAA, RIAA, and the other middleman unions out there, let them oppose the new options on their own merits, no laws favoring use or avoidance of such organizations. It will take time, but I expect a few members from such groups to survive and actually be beneficial to the artists who seek their help, but most would have to seek a new line of work.

The "dangers of piracy"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45394789)

Oh, stop, you're killing me
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Think of the children (4, Insightful)

HeckRuler (1369601) | about 5 months ago | (#45394867)

oh come on! Think of the poor MPAA losing their shirt just because times change. And hey, if schools are having troubles right now, they're sitting on a MOTHERLOAD of a profitable resource: A captive and impressionable audience. I'm sure the MPAA would be willing to part with a few dollars to have a SIMPLE and PRODUCTIVE message sent to our youths.

And why stop there? I'm sure that ExxonMobile would be willing to donate to our children's future and supply a brief explanation of the benefits of fracking. Halliburton would be able to give an up-close and insightful description of political issues to bolster their social science awareness. Microsoft would be able to explain what all happens when you agree to those complicated EULAs. They could also comment on the importance of sharing, caring, and litigating anyone who dares do it with your toys. Monsanto would do wonders in the biology class.

Just think of the possibilities [wikipedia.org].

Just remember kids (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45394873)

YOU"RE ALL A BUNCH OF THIEVING FUCKERS!!!!

You'll be the death of me, making me get off my lazy ass and work @ McDonald's, the only other job I'm qualified for.

Re:Just remember kids (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45394935)

Are you one of them shouty nig-nog "artists"?

I take that back, you belong at KFC.

You what? (4, Insightful)

StoneyMahoney (1488261) | about 5 months ago | (#45394893)

If I'm understanding this correctly, the music labels are now resorting to re-educating future generations in a futile attempt to protect their obsolete business models. Their meddling with the legal system, constant redefinition of copyright terms and heavy-handed persecution of those they see as "offenders" have, as predicted by everyone except them, done nothing to prevent people doing what human beings have loved to do with audible culture for millennia - sharing it. These idiots probably see this as a good idea. What next? Selectively assigning breeding privileges to the population based on an exam paper sponsored by the Corporate Overloads of America to ensure your opinions conform to our scientifically proven CorrectThink(TM)?

Re:You what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395347)

No this is the next step of litigation profit model. The "education" material is full of "Do not download from sites like..." which lists sites crafted for the identification of the downloading computer. Then they can sue the all the parents into bankruptcy on a massive scale

How about some US Consitution as well? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45394897)

1st, 2nd 4th and 5th amendment things.

1: Say what you want, take pictures in public
2: You can have guns to protect yourself
4: No seacrhes with out a warrant
5: Right to remail silent

More than just learning them, but actually how they can be applied in everyday life. Theory and Application!

Schools Teaching Morality (-1, Flamebait)

Puls4r (724907) | about 5 months ago | (#45394911)

Schools are meant to teach educational subjects, not moral ones. Sex education, climate change, and now piracy are all issues that should be taught at home, not at school. It's a parent's job to teach right and wrong. Not a school. Unfortunately, too many parents are pursuing careers and should have never been 'parents' in the first place. Sending your kid to school, then to football, then letting him play videos games, eat dinner, and go to bed is NOT being a parent. In fact, you're not doing any parenting at all. Is it any wonder they're not learning morality and ethics?

Re:Schools Teaching Morality (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395143)

The teaching of facts is morally neutral.

Sex education mostly teaches facts about male and female bodies, and how they function, the possibility of pregnancy and disease transmission, etc.

Whether or not three-ways are morally permissible is, as I understand, not discussed in such classes.

So, I don't really see what your problem is.

Same goes for climate change, and the fact that copyright infringement is illegal. These topics can be covered in a morally-neutral way.

Re:Schools Teaching Morality (4, Informative)

Jeff Flanagan (2981883) | about 5 months ago | (#45395201)

Why would you lump absolutely critical sex-ed, and accurate info on climate change in with an absurd piracy lesson? Do you identify with the ignorant religious conservatives?

Sex-ed isn't a moral lesson, it's a biology lesson. The people trying to remove it from schools, or make it a "moral" lesson, are generally totally unethical religious crazies who want to deprive kids of accurate info. The same folks want to put their superstitions in science class. We all have an obligation to never let religious extremists limit education. People who can't handle reality should not be passing along their dysfunction to the next generation.

Give Credit," "It's Great to Create,"ECT the RIAA (2)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 5 months ago | (#45394913)

Give Credit," "It's Great to Create,"ECT the RIAA tells the artests that but uses a lot of loop holes and Hollywood book keeping to not pay them.

Re:Give Credit," "It's Great to Create,"ECT the RI (1)

MysteriousPreacher (702266) | about 5 months ago | (#45395121)

I'd hope the RIAA could find time to explain the economics of the industry. i.e. the chargebacks and other fun instruments used to lessen or entirely remove the need to pay royalties to artists. For additional credit, have the MPAA explain why high grossing films can make a loss because Paramount sent a cut of the revenues to the fucking moon.

Awesome. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45394915)

If this works half as well as the D.A.R.E program lying to children. Which went on to cause a giant upsurge in the drug use.

We're going to have a generation of super pirates!

I teach... (2)

flogger (524072) | about 5 months ago | (#45394925)

I dare the administration to tell me I have to teach this curriculum to my students. I'll give my own slant on it and end up teaching anonymous proxy, torrents, ripping, you name it...

Actually as common core, students have to work more with media. As a result we are ripping DVDs and cds and editing these to meet some educational goals... I am sure that is against their curricula.
bastards. (*IAA, not the students, this time.)

Re:I teach... (1)

Areyoukiddingme (1289470) | about 5 months ago | (#45395131)

But do you teach elementary school students? Somehow I doubt elementary school kids are ripping DVDs and CDs and editing them for class. I don't think you're going to get the chance to bollix their indoctrination. At least, not on the first go-round. You'll probably get the chance in a few years, when the first crop of students that has received the indoctrination gets to you. (Does anybody think the MAFIAA won't get this into some school somewhere?)

Incidentally, your sig isn't rendering right. Looks truncated.

Re:I teach... (3, Funny)

mwvdlee (775178) | about 5 months ago | (#45395147)

"Following these detailed instructions on how to setup an anonymous proxy and access these warez sites is bad, m'kay".

Fair and balanced only (3, Interesting)

WillyWanker (1502057) | about 5 months ago | (#45394945)

As long as I can form a coalition that gets equal time promoting piracy and clearly exposes the Hollywood MAFIAA for what it really is I have no problem with this.

Otherwise it's essentially Nazi-style propaganda, which has no place in our schools. Sorry MAFIAA, but no.

we can use the fox news view that is very GOP (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 5 months ago | (#45395077)

we can use the fox news view that is very GOP but they list Fair and balanced in the prom card.

definitely for the best (0)

Xicor (2738029) | about 5 months ago | (#45394961)

yea...this is DEFINITELY going to work. we all know that piracy is illegal... we do it because we think the mpaa are assholes and overprice everything.

Fabulous idea! (5, Insightful)

onyxruby (118189) | about 5 months ago | (#45394969)

Why don't we start with the fact that Hollywood was founded as it was about as far from New York and their IP laws about the movie industry as you could get in those days? Let's make sure we cover the theft of material from the public domain for corporate use too.

Don't forget to cover the MPAA's own history of corruption. The RIAA should not be forgotten either, they have a long history of ripping of artists and we need to make sure we educate people on that. We should have a special section on Hollywood accounting that covers how you have a billion dollar blockbuster that costs $100 million to make and officially loses money. Make sure that we cover how this works in the music industry too.

I also think it is important that people are educated on all of their rights that have been trampled and attempted to be circumvented by the **AA's and their like kind organizations overseas. By all means we should show the **AA's support of taking away your rights for a fair trial if your accused of copyright infringement. Don't forget to educate people on treaties and what they have done to take away your rights by treaty.

Don't forget to cover public domain and the history of extending how long something will last before being put into public domain. We also need to show how this has changed over the years. Libraries, those bastions of piracy! They have the audacity to lend IP without people paying for them fresh every single time, let's make sure we cover the history of trying to shut down libraries abilities to do lend things.

Anything else that we should educate people on?

Seriously (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45394999)

We have kifs coming out of highschool unable to balance a checkbook or figure out the amount of tax on a purchase... but please let's teach 'em this instead.

Re:Seriously (1)

BancBoy (578080) | about 5 months ago | (#45395325)

We have kifs coming out of highschool unable to balance a checkbook or figure out the amount of tax on a purchase... but please let's teach 'em this instead.

Or spell kid or High School, as it happens.

I support copyright... (1)

mitchell_pgh (536538) | about 5 months ago | (#45395113)

...as it was originally designed (20-30, maybe even 40 years). Not this 110+ the lift of author business.

Demand an Opt-Out Option (5, Insightful)

Carcass666 (539381) | about 5 months ago | (#45395119)

Religious people can opt-out their children when it comes to evolution and sex-education. Seems only fair that parents get the option to opt their children out of this unabashed intrusion of the classroom by media corporations. From an economic educational standpoint, I don't want my kids learning that having the right political connections can be used to compensate for a broken business model.

Great idea (2, Informative)

mwvdlee (775178) | about 5 months ago | (#45395129)

Great idea... as long as it's objective and based on science.

You know... explaining how copyright once just lasted only a handfull of years and how downloading movies and music doesn't actually hurt sales.
Perhaps the kids should also be educated in the danger giving up your privacy to phone-home Digital Restriction Management, how companies steal control over your computer just because you want to play a CD and how they no longer actually own the things they buy in a store.

Surely not in PUBLIC schools!!??!! (3, Interesting)

ChromaticDragon (1034458) | about 5 months ago | (#45395181)

How in the WORLD is advertising and propaganda being placed directly in public school curriculum?

I am sure this is not the first time propaganda has been pushed through elementary schools. There are tons of examples in various countries and regimes. And since it's that time of year again, let's tip our hats to the incredibly successful disinformation campaign of the Daughters of the American Revolution in creating our wonderful American Thanksgiving mythology (among many other similar myths).

Did I miss the nationwide campaign for elementary school level curriculum on the dangers of smoking? I seem to remember that being a part of Health in junior high... where you'd sort of expect it. If this followed that pattern, I'd expect to see this in within a class on Government in High School where patents, trademarks and copyright were debated alongside a treatment of historical patterns of dying industries using laws/regulations to postpone their demise rather than adapting.

Teaching a well rounded Curriculum (1)

grub (11606) | about 5 months ago | (#45395189)


Reading
Writing
Arithmetic
"Don't Copy That Floppy"
"Home Taping is Killing Music"
"When You Download Movies, You're Sucking Satan's Most Unholy of Cocks"

the MPAA should just give the fuck up and move on (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395197)

all this crap does is pad the pockets of useless losers like Joe Lieberman without doing anything to stop piracy, if someone is too fucking cheap and/or poor to buy the movie on itunes for 8 bucks then fucking just let them have their fucking dvdrip, who cares

Surely somebody has to post a link to this (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395333)

Don't copy that floppy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up863eQKGUI

Will this be on the test? (1)

clem.dickey (102292) | about 5 months ago | (#45395377)

The student's grade, and the schools' grade are test-based. (The teacher's grade may be too, though that's still a bone of contention.) Until it's on the test (Common Core, in the current instance), where is the incentive to teach it?

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