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Journalists Banned From Using Smartphones At 2014 Sochi Olympics?

samzenpus posted about 5 months ago | from the no-tweet-for-you dept.

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First time accepted submitter SlongNY writes in with a story that journalists may be banned from taking photos or videos with smartphones at the 2014 Olympics. "'Journalists using mobile phones to film athletes or spectators will be considered a serious violation and will result in cancellation of accreditation,' said Vasily Konov, head of the state-run R-Sport news agency, which controls accreditation at the games. According to Buzzfeed, Mr. Konov later denied that he had said the ban was in place. Radio Free Europe, however, also reported him as saying the same thing."

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And don't even ask... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395419)

About their policy related to Google Glass. Let's just you like your eyeballs where they currently reside.

How is this a surprise? (5, Informative)

slycer9 (264565) | about 5 months ago | (#45395441)

The Olympic Committee has been pushing for YEARS that they be the sole source of any information, media or other materials originating from the events. It's only a matter of time before they ban external reporters altogether and simply provide their own press releases throughout the days from their own staffers.

Re:How is this a surprise? (3, Interesting)

bob_super (3391281) | about 5 months ago | (#45395475)

Which makes no sense. Because accredited journalists are the ones paying to be allowed to report the information.

It's iPhone-Joe who needs to be banned under that logic.

Re:How is this a surprise? (4, Funny)

mobby_6kl (668092) | about 5 months ago | (#45395719)

Well, as long as they make taking photos with a tablet an offense punishable by death, carried out on the spot, I don't have a problem with the rule.

Re:How is this a surprise? (3, Funny)

bob_super (3391281) | about 5 months ago | (#45395811)

Why?
I crack up every time, it makes me think of $Preacher holding $Sacred_book to honor $Deity, but 21st-century shallow.

Re:How is this a surprise? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395583)

The Olympic Committee has been pushing for YEARS that they be the sole source of any information, media or other materials originating from the events. It's only a matter of time before they ban external reporters altogether and simply provide their own press releases throughout the days from their own staffers.

Good. Let it collapse under that bullshit rule then.

Go ahead and start banning something that we struggle every four years to continue to justify from every perspective. The cities left behind in the aftermath of hosting an Olympics would certainly agree. It's far from the financial whirlwind everyone wants to believe it is.

And the only thing I'm going to be surprised over with these games is if Sochi somehow doesn't turn it into a complete clusterfuck. Between their logistical planning to the anti-gay sentiment being broadcast over these games as if it were Nazi Germany again, I don't hold much hope for success.

Re:How is this a surprise? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395931)

Good. Let it collapse under that bullshit rule then.

*deep, annoyed sigh* Yes, yes, I'm certain THIS will DEFINITELY be the straw that breaks the IOCC. All the other backwards, selfish decisions they made in the past couldn't do it, but this one so certainly will. *eye roll* Come, my brothers, and prepare for the bonfire of the IOCC, as they finally die in our lifetimes, because we're more specialer than all those other people who got screwed by them in the past. *slow clap*

Re:How is this a surprise? (1)

Rick Zeman (15628) | about 5 months ago | (#45396231)

The Olympic Committee has been pushing for YEARS that they be the sole source of any information, media or other materials originating from the events. It's only a matter of time before they ban external reporters altogether and simply provide their own press releases throughout the days from their own staffers.

Good. Let it collapse under that bullshit rule then.

Go ahead and start banning something that we struggle every four years to continue to justify from every perspective. The cities left behind in the aftermath of hosting an Olympics would certainly agree. It's far from the financial whirlwind everyone wants to believe it is.

And the only thing I'm going to be surprised over with these games is if Sochi somehow doesn't turn it into a complete clusterfuck. Between their logistical planning to the anti-gay sentiment being broadcast over these games as if it were Nazi Germany again, I don't hold much hope for success.

Don't forget what global warming is doing to winters, too. I can easily see them trying to have their Olympics while Sochi is hitting 45-50F.

Re:How is this a surprise? (1)

DarkOx (621550) | about 5 months ago | (#45396349)

Yes and lets not forget the construction of these massive concrete venues, that don't see much post games use in many cases followed by millions of people jetting half way across the globe to attend is environmentally unconscionable.

I find it amazing the same ass holes who expect me to buy $10 light bulbs and support banning the conventional wood stove; are in most cases ardent supports of the disgustingly carbon intensive exercise that is the Olympic Games.

Re:How is this a surprise? (1)

davester666 (731373) | about 5 months ago | (#45398147)

They do it because they get free tickets to EVERY event. Seriously, something like 20% of every event is reserved for the uber-people, who pay NOTHING for those tickets. And those tickets are the special prime seats, up front with the good view, and carefully cordoned off from the plebs.

Re:How is this a surprise? (1)

dave420 (699308) | about 5 months ago | (#45399067)

Amazing straw-man argument there. Seriously wonderful. I hope for your sake it's a new Olympic sport.

Re:How is this a surprise? (1)

DarkOx (621550) | about 5 months ago | (#45399551)

Not a straw man and not a no true scottsman.

Its Obama's EPA that has done these things, and Obama clearly supports the games.

President Obama says no to a boycott of 2014 Sochi Olympics - Los ...
articles.latimes.com/.../la-sp-sn-president-obama-olympics-boycott-2013...âZ
Aug 9, 2013 - âoeWe fully support the comments today from President Obama rejecting calls to boycott the Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games in Russia.
President Obama Supports Tax Exemption for Olympic Athletes ...
www.forbes.com/.../president-obama-supports-tax-exemption-for-olymp...âZ
Aug 6, 2012 - Olympics (Photo credit: ClaraDon) Even President Obama has Olympic fever, it seems. That's the only plausible explanation for the latest word ...

So there I can cite at least one example; no that a few moments of Goggling could not reveal at least 100's of others.

Re:How is this a surprise? (3, Insightful)

gronofer (838299) | about 5 months ago | (#45396437)

Given the ridiculous corporatism, overbearing security measures, hostility to the Internet, doping scandals, and obsessive nationalism (which was of course built in from the beginning), it seems like it has already been dead for quite a while. They are now just going through the motions.

Re:How is this a surprise? (1)

akgooseman (632715) | about 5 months ago | (#45397377)

It's far from the financial whirlwind everyone wants to believe it is.

Oh, it's a whirlwind alright. The big organizers, promoters and builders whirl in, scoop up all the money and whirl back out of town. Leaving the locals within some hundreds of kilometer radius holding out empty bags if not outright saddled with debt.

Re:How is this a surprise? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395593)

The Olympic Committee has been pushing for YEARS that they be the sole source of any information, media or other materials originating from the events. It's only a matter of time before they ban external reporters altogether and simply provide their own press releases throughout the days from their own staffers.

I doubt this will ever occur. It would require effort on their part as well as their own money. The Olympic committee has become so greed stricken in the last couple of decades that the games themselves are in jeopardy of losing THEIR accreditation with the public.

There's a difference (3, Informative)

ScottCooperDotNet (929575) | about 5 months ago | (#45395449)

There's a difference between taking photos or video, and just posting text to social media. This sounds like a court type of thing, where cell phones are allowed but taking photos/video is not.

Re:There's a difference (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395913)

This sounds like a court type of thing, where cell phones are allowed but taking photos/video is not.

Yes, even the summary says this.

Slashdot headline: "OMFG TEHY CHINEZE BANNIN ALL FONEZ FRM OLIMPICKS"
Slashdot summary: "Journalists using mobile phones to film "
Article: "Any officially accredited PRESS/Event members will have to use professional equipment for recording, not your shitty little pocket phones or Goofy Glasses."

samzenpus - the new timothy.

Follow the money (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395459)

If independent footage comes out, R-sport doesn't get paid for it. Gotta have that cash.

Re:Follow the money (4, Insightful)

Alain Williams (2972) | about 5 months ago | (#45395491)

Exactly: the olympics is, to a large extent, about money in one way or another. I sometimes think that the IOC would quickly ditch the athletes if they could find a way of having the games without them.

Re:Follow the money (4, Insightful)

houghi (78078) | about 5 months ago | (#45395759)

"to a large extent"? Seriously? Do you think that? It is ONLY about money.

Re:Follow the money (-1, Troll)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 5 months ago | (#45395909)

But, but. . ."the human drama of athletic competition" and stuff!
Next you're going to tell me Obama totally knew that his signature program was going to spread his Benghazi triumph around on normal U.S. health insurance policies.

Re:Follow the money (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45398235)

shitty, bankruptcy leading policies, you mean to say. This is like bitching about seat belts. People still do that too because oh gosh, in a 0.000001% chance, they might hurt you! Fucking morons fall for this BS.

Re:Follow the money (2)

master5o1 (1068594) | about 5 months ago | (#45395991)

Create Olympics. Sell tickets. Create a stadium so large that even the closest spectator can't see shit without the help of a screen.
Make everything CGI so that there are no athletes required.

ziss iss NOT permitted... (0)

swschrad (312009) | about 5 months ago | (#45395465)

which could otherwise be stated as "if we can't intercept it first, no way." there is a strong tradition of, ahhhh, shaping the truth before, during, and after in Russia.

Re:ziss iss NOT permitted... (1)

zlives (2009072) | about 5 months ago | (#45395529)

in this particular instance, the policy maybe pushed by the Olympic committee to better sell ad-time.

In Soviet Russia... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395473)

...smartphones free you!

testing the waters? (2)

intermodal (534361) | about 5 months ago | (#45395477)

Seems like they might be seeing what they can get away with on the international stage before the official rules come into public scrutiny.

Article Subject is WRONG (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395479)

This has nothing to do specifically with smartphones... they aren't allowing any "non-professional" media recording devices for the media. They obviously can still tweet/text/call at the events. It's the same as telling your fast food employees not to take pictures of customers food in the back with their cell phones. If they pull put a professional camera it looks better and nobody would complain. This isn't news, move along...

Re:Article Subject is WRONG (4, Interesting)

grcumb (781340) | about 5 months ago | (#45398063)

This has nothing to do specifically with smartphones... they aren't allowing any "non-professional" media recording devices for the media. They obviously can still tweet/text/call at the events. It's the same as telling your fast food employees not to take pictures of customers food in the back with their cell phones. If they pull put a professional camera it looks better and nobody would complain. This isn't news, move along...

There is everything wrong with this. With recording as with all things, handsome is as handsome does. I have a photojournalist friend, recently returned from Afghanistan, whose primary camera is a little Canon point-and-shoot. You could scoff and talk about Good Enough, except that he's used a similar camera to provide a nice two page spread in Vanity Fair. Yes, he also walks around with a vintage Leica pano camera and a few other bits of exotic kit as well, but when it comes to getting shots, sometimes the best camera is the one you have in your hand.

What about pencams, buttoncams, etc. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395519)

Or hasn't anyone on Slashdot visited Ebay in the past three years? Duh.

what's the olympics? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395543)

If they don't want to have people report about it, noone will care.

I wonder how they feel if noone watches, tweets or talks about their little games.

Re:what's the olympics? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45396027)

If they don't want to have people report about it, noone will care.

I wonder how they feel if noone watches, tweets or talks about their little games.

I don't think I know anyone who watches that crap.

Re:what's the olympics? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45396129)

Yes you do.

Olympics? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395581)

I haven't see an Olympic event in years. With everything else that is available, there really isn't anything even special about it anymore. Maybe pre-internet, but with the ability to view sporting events around the world 24 hours a day, it seems like a bit of a waste of money to me. The only real news I hear about is when the olympic committee decides to try to bust someone who has a couple rings in their logo or dares to have a "olympic special" on the menu.

Re:Olympics? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45396203)

You haven't seen an Olympic event in years of course. Olympic is not held in every year!

Re:Olympics? (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 5 months ago | (#45396831)

You're right. They are held every other year. Summer Olympics were just last year, so if the GP had seen them, it would have been within the "years" timeframe.

NBC wants it taped delayed covage to have good rat (3, Insightful)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 5 months ago | (#45395597)

NBC wants it taped delayed covage to have good ratings

Re:NBC wants it taped delayed covage to have good (1)

bobbied (2522392) | about 5 months ago | (#45395743)

I have a solution to that... How about you do the event in a time zone closer to the audience with the most money? There are plenty of south American countries who would love to host the games.

On a serious note... If NBC wants exclusive coverage, they are going to have to outlaw all cameras and electronic devices except by credential reporters who have singed an NDA while strip searching the spectators to make sure nobody gets one in. Cell phone jammers might be a good idea too.

Re:NBC wants it taped delayed covage to have good (2)

Obfuscant (592200) | about 5 months ago | (#45395851)

...except by credential reporters who have singed an NDA while strip searching the spectators...

Altogether now, key of E flat, ... "Proust in his first book wrote about wrote about, Proust in his first book wrote about...".

Re:NBC wants it taped delayed covage to have good (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395885)

You mean like India, or China?
I'm pretty sure they have more money than the US, especially with Hong Kong, Australia and Japan all hanging around relatively close together.

Re:NBC wants it taped delayed covage to have good (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | about 5 months ago | (#45396099)

There are plenty of south American countries who would love to host the games.

You get your wish: Rio is hosting the next summer games.

(I'm not entirely sure there's any city in South America large, snowy and mountainous enough to be suited to host the winter games... they mostly seem to be too warm or too flat. Santiago, Chile seems like the only one that might qualify.)

Re:NBC wants it taped delayed covage to have good (1)

Obfuscant (592200) | about 5 months ago | (#45396239)

You get your wish: Rio is hosting the next summer games.

Let's see how they handle the world cup before we leap for joy at them having the Olympics. It's not a foregone conclusion that the cup will run anything near smoothly.

they mostly seem to be too warm or too flat.

Well, what with global climate change, the winter Olympics are going to have to add a whole bunch of snow-free sports if they are going to continue anyway. That's a boon to all those already hot countries -- they can now bid for the winter games, and snowbound ones like Antarctica can host the summer ones.

Re:NBC wants it taped delayed covage to have good (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45396009)

NBC wants it taped delayed covage to have good ratings

That's because they're idiots. I don't watch the tape delayed events, they piss me off and usually they're playing at times when I'm busy doing other shit. I don't want to watch just the US team for a few minutes during one event, I'd like to actually watch the whole goddamn event. Including the events that NBC seems to feel aren't worth the public's time.

Get with the times NBC, this isn't the fucking 20th century any more. There is absolutely NO excuse as to why I can't simply browse to a web site and stream ANY event LIVE as it happens.

You want ratings? Bullshit. You want viewers. I've got dozens of cable channels sitting idle just begging for a good feed, I'd pay for a package that let me watch ALL the damn events live in HD... nope not an option. Baseball has it figured out, so does basketball, and if not for the DirectTV monopoly on Football it would, too. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY GODDAMN MONEY!

Re:NBC wants it taped delayed covage to have good (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45396963)

NBC wants it taped delayed covage to have good ratings

That's because they're idiots. I don't watch the tape delayed events, they piss me off and usually they're playing at times when I'm busy doing other shit. I don't want to watch just the US team for a few minutes during one event, I'd like to actually watch the whole goddamn event. Including the events that NBC seems to feel aren't worth the public's time.

Get with the times NBC, this isn't the fucking 20th century any more. There is absolutely NO excuse as to why I can't simply browse to a web site and stream ANY event LIVE as it happens.

You want ratings? Bullshit. You want viewers. I've got dozens of cable channels sitting idle just begging for a good feed, I'd pay for a package that let me watch ALL the damn events live in HD... nope not an option. Baseball has it figured out, so does basketball, and if not for the DirectTV monopoly on Football it would, too. SHUT UP AND TAKE MY GODDAMN MONEY!

Wow, I am shocked that America doesn't have this. In AU we usually have a free to air channel broadcasting the events with the highest ratting and a cable/satellite service broadcasting six or seven channels live with all the events, they even sell packages just for the Olympics. (That being said I don't think the winter games will get that sort of coverage)

Re:NBC wants it taped delayed covage to have good (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45398255)

NBC puts it on a shitload of channels, round the clock. The main NBC channel timeshifts, the rest tend to cover live. Stop your bitching.

Re:NBC wants it taped delayed covage to have good (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45398215)

Or maybe NBC shouldn't spoil the results of the tape-delayed event that they're promoting.

The Olympics Trump All World Governments. (5, Insightful)

rueger (210566) | about 5 months ago | (#45395601)

Having lived through the 2010 games in Vancouver, I can fully believe this story. The corporations behind the Olympics answer to no-one, and respect only the laws that they create for themselves.

Local customs and laws, charters, and regulations are ignored or flouted without so much as a "Sorry," and the great armies of renta-cops rule the roost.

Re:The Olympics Trump All World Governments. (4, Insightful)

Solandri (704621) | about 5 months ago | (#45396419)

In this case it's not the corporations. It's the International Olympic Committee (IOC) which puts on the games. They sell everything - exclusive coverage, exclusive food rights, exclusive t-shirt sales, etc. The corporations are as much a victim as the press and public. You pay lots of money for the privilege of covering/attending the Olympics, and in exchange the IOC makes damn sure nobody else infringes on the privilege they've sold you. Including local merchants who've been selling in the area long before the Olympics ever came. Have a store named "Olympic Sporting Goods" which is so named because it's on Olympic St? Gotta cover up your name during the Olympics.

Yeah it sucks that only McDonalds can sell fast food on the Olympics venue, but can you really blame them for kicking out Joe the hot dog stand vendor? They paid the IOC huge bucks to become the official exclusive food sponsor. The IOC makes every right it sells exclusive if they can, because it makes a bidding war where they can extract the most money possible from the corporate sponsors. If you want to stop it, you need to put a leash on the IOC. Don't give them rights that infringe on the rights of pre-existing businesses. But cities are so desperate to host the Olympics they'll service the IOC like a $2 whore and and give the IOC anything it asks for.

When Pierre de Coubertin came up with the idea of the modern Olympics, he prohibited professional athletes because he didn't want money to get in the way of a competition where each individual was simply trying to do his/her best. Unfortunately he didn't foresee that the athletes weren't the only ones who could be corrupted by money.

Re:The Olympics Trump All World Governments. (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about 5 months ago | (#45397357)

Olympic Committee (IOC) > Olympic Corporation, which is by law above the law(it's stupid but thats the way it is).

the only way to fight it is to ignore it. ignore the problem for long enough and it goes away, because it's a publicity driven event. don't even know who the sponsors are...

Re:The Olympics Trump All World Governments. (3, Insightful)

Bob9113 (14996) | about 5 months ago | (#45397373)

Yeah it sucks that only McDonalds can sell fast food on the Olympics venue, but can you really blame them for kicking out Joe the hot dog stand vendor? They paid the IOC huge bucks to become the official exclusive food sponsor.

That seems like asking whether we can really blame the RIAA for pursuing massive infringement penalties; after all, they paid Congress huge bucks to write the ridiculous laws.

Yes, you can blame McDonald's, and the RIAA, and Congress, and the IOC. They are all despots abusing power to misappropriate money.

Re:The Olympics Trump All World Governments. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45398339)

I still have a couple of Sanyo monitors from the 2010 Vancouver games with all trademarking obliterated by black sticky labels (almost impossible to remove, not that anyone but Sanyo would care). I saw the Trademark police sheds near the main sites where enforcers would go out and cover up things like the Crane trademark on stadium urinals/toilets and other ridiculous "infringements". Nothing surprises me about the Olympics juggernaut coming to town!

no free pass for Russia shill/rat (0)

globaljustin (574257) | about 5 months ago | (#45398359)

Local customs and laws, charters, and regulations are ignored or flouted without so much as a "Sorry," and the great armies of renta-cops rule the roost.

I love how your first statement established your credentials...then you drop the turd quoted above on us unsuspecting readers...

You're giving Russia a free pass...they could change this rule (and pretty much any rule) easily...

Russia sends punk rock activists to Siberia for 5 years, steals NFL team owner Super Bowl rings, bribes anyone in the world they need to, traffics heroin from Afghanistan (w/ our help sometimes)...**allows gays to be beat openly in the street**...drives tanks over luxury cars parked illegally in St. Petersberg...and forces all drivers to have a front camera that records awesome videos

Russia is fucking badass

They are second only to the US in 'do w/e the fuck we want'-ness!!!

Russia could end this law in a second if they wanted...you are totally giving Russian government a free pass here and I smell a shill/rat/troll!

Bash the Russians. (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395607)

Bash Russia, Bash North Korea, Bash Iran- and people wonder why GCHQ turned to the owners of Slashdot to help insert trojan software onto the machines of target individuals.

Here's a clue for you sheeple. Unauthorised coverage of the Olympics has been BANNED, and ruthlessly eliminated using every semi-legal method possible since the AMERICANS first turned their Olympics into a giant corporate and mainstream media cashcow. It is the USA that laid down modern abusive use of copyright to limit freedoms of just about all of us, and it is the USA that has demanded that every other nation follow suite.

The ONLY mistake Russia makes is in not having the sophisticated PR machines that the West uses to sugar coat the language used when restrictions on our freedoms are announced. In the West, dirty pirates of the Olympic games must be prevented at all costs, because the pirates use their ill gotten gains to support terrorism and drug peddling, and every penny lost to piracy is another down-on-its-luck child who cannot be helped using profits from the Olympics to be helped to be a future 'gold' winner.

In the East, warnings that 'piracy' of the Olympic events will not be permitted is proof that Putin eats babies, and plans to enslave Humanity. Yes, the owners of Slashdot think you are THAT stupid.

Re:Bash the Russians. (4, Funny)

TechyImmigrant (175943) | about 5 months ago | (#45395683)

Was that your homework assignment for a rhetoric class or do you actually go around talking like that while people quietly wish you would go somewhere else?

Re:Bash the Russians. (1)

MitchDev (2526834) | about 5 months ago | (#45399155)

Quietly wish he would go away? I actively sneeze at them and pretend I couldn't get my hand in front of my mouth fast enough...

Re:Bash the Russians. (1)

marcello_dl (667940) | about 5 months ago | (#45396371)

Americans? Olympics have been a propaganda event at least since 1936.
If you like sports, practice them, with the least amount of money involved, preferably. All the rest is fluff.

Re:Bash the Russians. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45397599)

You could be posting the accurate math for the unified field theory, but when you use the word "sheeple", -1, Troll. Dick.

Ought to be a real party (5, Funny)

amightywind (691887) | about 5 months ago | (#45395641)

What can go wrong with a Russian occupied war zone 20km south in Abkhazia, 200 km from a civil war zone in Chechnya, in a country run by a KGB trained despot who hates homosexuals, with no phones, and no outside communications? Ought to be a real party.

Re:Ought to be a real party (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395815)

Well, I'm not going, real party or no. I'll drink my Vodka at home thank you Comrades.

Wonder what the opening will have James Bond jumping out of something again.. (From Russia with Love) Worked for the Brits and all that..

Re:Ought to be a real party (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45398433)

Don't worry, most Russians will not go there too, so you'll have a good (virtual) company with you. It too damn expensive affair.

Oh yeah baby! (3, Insightful)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about 5 months ago | (#45395667)

It's the host country's responsibility to ensure the billions of dollars in exclusivity rights' value is not diluted via unauhorized production.

Witness UK's 00 agents neck-snapping unauthorized shop owners within 200 miles of London who put "Enjoy the Olympics!" signs in their windows.

This is, after all, a private, commercial enterprise.

Oh boy, here we go again... (-1)

timeOday (582209) | about 5 months ago | (#45395691)

6 more months of whining about the Olympics. Plus it's the Olympics in RUSSIA, which is almost the perfect nexus of "stuff people love to hate." Last night it was NBC News complaining about Russia spending too much money developing the venue.

Re:Oh boy, here we go again... (1)

sconeu (64226) | about 5 months ago | (#45395837)

The only better nexus of "stuff people love to hate" would be the Olympics(tm, and don't you forget it!!) in the USA.

This reeks of BS (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395725)

It's not even worth my effort to either log in or type any further.

Re:This reeks of BS (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45397087)

thank you for making it as far as you did, not sure anyone could have gotten by without your invaluable insight on the subject.

Fatov, the mascot is MIA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395841)

Until I see the Olympic mascot representing the Russian spirit of sloth and drunkenness on TV, I'm boycotting the whole thing!

Money (4, Interesting)

jklovanc (1603149) | about 5 months ago | (#45395867)

This is about money and without money the Olympics will not survive.

Look at it this way, the hosting country is signing on for the following:
1. Massive infrastructure build.
2. Massive security costs. Thanks PLO and others.
3. Massive costs for accommodations and food.
4. Massive costs for transportation.
Add all that together and then realize that it all has to be recouped within the few weeks of the Olympics. It is easy to see why the IOC is very watchful of people infringing on their income streams. If you want the Olympics to continue the broadcast rights need to be worth paying for.

Re:Money (2)

mrbester (200927) | about 5 months ago | (#45396113)

Been to Barcelona recently and seen what has become of the Olympic stadium? That's what is happening to London. That's what will happen again. IOC couldn't give a fuck so long as they get their billions.

Re:Money (1)

jklovanc (1603149) | about 5 months ago | (#45396179)

IOC couldn't give a fuck so long as they get their billions

Which they then spend on the next Olympics.

Re:Money (1)

the_other_chewey (1119125) | about 5 months ago | (#45396407)

IOC couldn't give a fuck so long as they get their billions

Which they then spend on the next Olympics.

Isn't that what the host city is for? I don't think the IOC actually spends any
money on the games themselves, on the contrary: It's their main cash source.

Re:Money (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45396211)

I don't know if I agree with you, but excellent post with a perspective I hadn't thought of. Kudos.

Re:Money (5, Insightful)

BeShaMo (996745) | about 5 months ago | (#45396273)

Fuck the Olympics. All the nice core values it was created to support, Excellence, Friendship and Respect have been steamrolled by the increasing escalation in cost, the need/desire for massive all encompassing sponsorship deals and the general arrogant douchery of the IOC.

At most the host city will benefit from some upgraded infrastructure, probably long overdue, but very rarely will the host come close to recouping the cost they have put in, and a lot of the money goes to waste, meaning that if they had spend the money purely on improving their citizens live, it would have gone much further. Supporters counter this by saying that the host will get more back in the long term from business promotion and tourism, but this claim is dubious at best, but being a very hard thing to quantify it's also impossible to refute, but considering it's mostly held in cities that are already some of the most popular tourist destination and business hubs, it's hard to see what real difference is being made.

At the end of the day, the Olympics have very successfully branded themselves as a must have event, however the only ones who really benefits are the sponsors who gets a venue where a country's normal safeguards and laws are completely nullifies, the politicians who get to stand on the grandest stage of all and proclaim how awesome they are and the of course the members of IOC who gets to take home fat bribes.

Again, fuck the Olympics. The great white elephant of the modern age.

Re:Money (2)

MitchDev (2526834) | about 5 months ago | (#45397049)

More like the Olympics are the "Must Avoid" event.
All the hype over nothing, all the commercialism and greed suck.

Re:Money (1)

Mark (3012059) | about 5 months ago | (#45397681)

Well said. I have been boycotting anything to do with the Olympics for some time. It is a horrible over corporatised money grubbing enterprise and very little at all to do with the athletes and its origins. The IOC is a corrupt dictatorship of megalomaniacs - do nothing at all that will support them in any way what so ever.

Re:Money (1)

rueger (210566) | about 5 months ago | (#45396339)

Add all that together and then realize that it all has to be recouped within the few weeks of the Olympics. It is easy to see why the IOC is very watchful of people infringing on their income streams. If you want the Olympics to continue the broadcast rights need to be worth paying for.

Let's be clear about one thing: all the things that you list are things that the poor sods in the host country pay for, up front. The IOC does not pay for these things, The only people who ever really win are the IOC members - not the host country.

How the Olympics work: Host country accepts all of the risk, and pays all of the bills. IOC skims the gravy and has a really nice party for them and their pals.

Trust me, if even had of what was promised had happened in Vancouver we would all be rich, fat, and happy.

Re:Money (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45397303)

The Olympics can survive without money, or in all sorts of other economic models. This economic model and your 4-bullet list, sick as it might seem, has nothing to do with the Olympics.

Only smartphones are banned, not pro gear (3, Informative)

FuzzNugget (2840687) | about 5 months ago | (#45395899)

TFA states that journalists can still use proper photography gear. This is likely to expand the loop between shooting and publishing so it can go through channels, which is kinda censorship-ish and creepy.

Although, this quote then makes absolutely no sense:

"Organizers won't be able to have any effect on normal spectators, but supporters will be banned from bringing reflex cameras and nonprofessional equipment to the competitions," Konov added.

"Reflex" cameras, as he calls them, are DSLRs (Digital Single Lens REFLEX), which *are* professional equipment, so methinks he doesn't know what he's talking about.

Assuming he got his jargon wrong and DSLRs are allowed, I do like the unintended consequence of increasing the overall artistic and technical quality of the photography. Smartphone cameras are shit.

Re:Only smartphones are banned, not pro gear (1)

Rick Zeman (15628) | about 5 months ago | (#45396247)

What's even more stupid is DSLRs have built in wireless now. Unless they ban tablets, smartphones, and oh, computers, they're totally fscked. How silly. But totalitarians usually are.

Re:Only smartphones are banned, not pro gear (2)

oobayly (1056050) | about 5 months ago | (#45398787)

Well, at the London Olympics they had cat^H^H^H wireless detectors to find people with personal hotspots - they had signs up at the entrances saying they were prohibited. I think it's because they'd conned a shit load of money from BT as the official telecoms sponsor. If they'd been allowed to set up mobile jammers, I'm sure they would have.. Seeing as this one is in Russia, it'll be interesting to see if the IOC and organisers to go more draconian.

Re:Only smartphones are banned, not pro gear (2)

Obfuscant (592200) | about 5 months ago | (#45397683)

"Organizers won't be able to have any effect on normal spectators, but supporters will be banned from bringing reflex cameras and nonprofessional equipment to the competitions," Konov added.

"Reflex" cameras, as he calls them, are DSLRs (Digital Single Lens REFLEX), which *are* professional equipment, so methinks he doesn't know what he's talking about.

I suspect that you are seeing a bad translation of what he actually did say. Remember, he's almost certainly speaking Russian. The Washington Times article was in English.

"Reflex" applies to more than DSLR, you know, and there are a lot of SLR cameras that are hardly professional grade equipment. It's your claim that "reflex *are* professional" that is questionable. But even so, the statement was translated as "reflex cameras and non-professional equipment", so your statement is not in any way contradicted by what the translation says. If the translation is correct, he's actually classed "reflex cameras" as professional equipment. "Reflex cameras and other non-professional" would be be classing them as non-pro.

I think it is actually a reasonable limitation. The athletes there deserve enough respect that they know when some journalist is taking photos or making videos of them while they are relaxing in the athlete village. Yeah, it will be hard to enforce.

pro gear blocked too (2)

dutchwhizzman (817898) | about 5 months ago | (#45398137)

Journalists that don't have a reporting permit for the gear they bring, including amateur *and* pro gear, will be kicked out and lose their permits for the rest of the event. Athletes and athlete helper staff will not be allowed to record anything at all, even for study/training/re-evaluation purposes. Anyone caught recording "behind the scenes" stuff will be kicked out as well. This is total censorship for anyone that has a chance to be in places other than the public stands.

Ever think of a BOYCOTT! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45395977)

If they want to follow their historical nature of a country of fear and control, then we and the rest of the free world should simply boycott this attempt
at totalitarianism.

Weird Nation (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about 5 months ago | (#45396055)

Russia's probably worried that gay people will use their smartphones to hook up with all the gay Russian athletes.

It's kind of interesting to see such a large and relatively modern society lose it's collective mind over gay people.

Re:Weird Nation (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 5 months ago | (#45398955)

It's kind of interesting to see such a large and relatively modern society lose it's collective mind over gay people.

It's just another incident which maintains my faith in humanity... poor faith, perhaps, but faith nonetheless. I have faith that when things get difficult, people will look for anywhere to point a finger except at themselves.

As Russian.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45396333)

Just a note, it very typical of any Russian official to say something, and withing several hours, to backtrack and deny everything, like nothing happened.
" "

Re: As an American.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45397765)

ditto. :)

Ban it all (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45396493)

I propose all coverage be banned. Maybe then there will be something good on TV. Well, probably not.

The Olympics are merely a large circus. (1)

couchslug (175151) | about 5 months ago | (#45396739)

I care as little about the coverage as I care about "reality TV".

It's a giant expensive distraction for the sheeple and best ignored.

Waiting for the conspiracy theorists... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45397217)

I'm waiting for the day when conspiracy theorists will claim that the Olympics never happened and that it is somehow part of the NWO. Please, someone write up a good conspiracy surrounding this, I'm so bored right now hahaha

Eye-Fi (1)

tulimulta (769091) | about 5 months ago | (#45397445)

The organizers have obviously never heard of wifi-equipped SD cards. Or smartwatches taking photos. Or... the list goes on. It's pathetic and laughable.

Athletes and helpers are blocked too (1)

dutchwhizzman (817898) | about 5 months ago | (#45398145)

Athletes and helpers are also blocked from using any equipment to record even their own performance for re-evaluation purposes.

For reasons like these people of Munich said no (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45398597)

... to the application of hosting the Olympic Games 2022.

Yet so many proponents fail to realize that this vote was against the IOC and not the sport itself.

evidence lockup (1)

h1p5t3r (3428823) | about 5 months ago | (#45398905)

This is a wet dream come true for both the IOC and the Russians. Significantly reducing the likelihood of amateur video catching anybody doing stuff they're not supposed to is a major victory for these hosers.

IOC and Russia (1)

smileytshirt (988345) | about 5 months ago | (#45399419)

The IOC and Russia are a perfect match. No freedom of the press and endemic corruption.

In Soviet Russia, games watch you!
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