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Red Hat Wants to be a Dominant Force in the Cloud (Video)

Roblimo posted about a year ago | from the the-lightness-of-being-an-open-source-cloud dept.

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Red Hat has two primary Cloud Evangelists: Gordon Haff and Richard Morrell. Richard says this about himself: "I'm Red Hat's Cloud Security Blogger and Cloud Evangelist based in Europe. Passionate about good code and Open Hybrid Cloud. Founder of SmoothWall protecting millions of networks for 13 years globally. My blogging and my podcasting is my own editorial and does not represent the views of Red Hat..." We have known Richard since the 20th Century, so this interview has been a long time coming. In it, he talks about how Red Hat is working to become as strong in the Open Source cloud world as it already is in GNU/Linux. This interview may not "represent the views of Red Hat," but it obviously represents the views of a loyal Red Hat employee who is also a long-time Linux enthusiast.

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Who doesnt? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45403195)

Who doesnt want to be a force in the cloud? Duh...

Re:Who doesnt? (1)

Joining Yet Again (2992179) | about a year ago | (#45403531)

Still trying to de-buzzword it, but I think it means, "We want to host virtual servers."

It's like the 1960s but with better alternatives.

Re:Who doesnt? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | about a year ago | (#45403567)

How do I submit my punch cards over the internet? Do I take a picture of them?

Re:Who doesnt? (1)

Joining Yet Again (2992179) | about a year ago | (#45403627)

Why would you want to submit them over the Internet when you have a perfectly good postal sevice?

Re:Who doesnt? (1)

jythie (914043) | about a year ago | (#45403957)

Hrm. I wonder how much of a market there would be for an app that you can snap pictures of punch cards and run them in an VM.....

Re:Who doesnt? (1)

timeOday (582209) | about a year ago | (#45404193)

To mean anything, "cloud" must at least include redundancy of both the data and the network to access it.

Anyways, it is far from ridiculous for RedHat to aspire to this. RedHat is used in many data centers and has contributed a very large number of software packages for clustering, management, and virtualization [fedoraproject.org] .

Re:Who doesnt? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45408205)

We all know who's pushing this Cloud crap. Give them your data, they'll love you.

Dominat what ? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45403225)

What do you plan to dominate ? Once RHEL 7 gets delivered, all your major customers will rush away switching to alternative Linux Distributions or back to Windows Desktops / Servers. Please don't get me deepter into explaining why! Dominate with an usable Desktop first!

Re:Dominat what ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45407107)

What do you plan to dominate ? Once RHEL 7 gets delivered, all your major customers will rush away switching to alternative Linux Distributions or back to Windows Desktops / Servers. Please don't get me deepter into explaining why! Dominate with an usable Desktop first!

Because Lennart Pottering is a giant tool bag who has no respect and/or understanding for Unix-like design principles?

Get In Fucking Line! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45403235)

Red Hat is kind of late to the party. EVERYBODY wants to be a dominant force in The Cloud! So what?

Hey, Red Hat! The back of the line is down around the block.

I want (0)

cephus440 (828210) | about a year ago | (#45403245)

I want to be a Dominant Force on slashdot.

Hoopty doo (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45403313)

Red Hat and everyone else.

Good job hopping on the buzzword 5 years late, you open sore humps.

The Cloud (1)

Archangel Michael (180766) | about a year ago | (#45403327)

Buzzword bingo anyone?

Re:The Cloud (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45407553)

Buzzword bingo anyone?

I'm a "Backyard Computing Evangelist"

Not There Yet (3, Informative)

Kagato (116051) | about a year ago | (#45403483)

A buddy of mine spent a lot of money earlier this year to attend a Red Hat convention and take the (Paid) cloud training. What a waste. While the training was hands but very simple. The trainer didn't know much more than the attendees and it seemed clear to all parties involved it was not ready for prime time.

Once again (2)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#45403521)

There's no video showing up, only blank space. This is 2013 guys, Flash died years ago.

Re:Once again (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45403743)

More like, it's 2013, Steve is dead, and iOS STILL doesn't support flash.

Re:Once again (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45404189)

Use a proper device/browser then. It's not the early 90s.

Re:Once again (1)

Aighearach (97333) | about a year ago | (#45404709)

flashblock plugins are more mature than HTML5-blockers, so I'm not sure your analysis is robust.

Re:Once again (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#45404977)

Even Adobe dropped development about the Flash plug-in, so I'm not sure why you're arguing about facts.

Re:Once again (2)

trongey (21550) | about a year ago | (#45405867)

There's no video showing up, only blank space. This is 2013 guys, Flash died years ago.

This is 2013. YouTube (Flash videos) comprises almost 20% of all Internet traffic. Not very dead.

Re:Once again (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about a year ago | (#45408377)

Flash is not required nor needed to play standard H.264 video files.

the cloud is dead (1, Interesting)

FudRucker (866063) | about a year ago | (#45403625)

the government NSA spys has killed any trust in telecommunications and internet connectivity, if i had anything of value that i wanted to keep private such as blueprints and plans for products soon to be sold on the market i surely wont keep any of that on any networked computer, and if i had to transport data anywhere it would be put on an encrypted usb thumbdrive which is easily hidden and/or transported anywhere

Re:the cloud is dead (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45403831)

the government NSA spys has killed any trust in telecommunications and internet connectivity, if i had anything of value that i wanted to keep private such as blueprints and plans for products soon to be sold on the market i surely wont keep any of that on any networked computer, and if i had to transport data anywhere it would be put on an encrypted usb thumbdrive which is easily hidden and/or transported anywhere

Let me guess. You host a sladshot mirror on your PC and use a custom client to send comments. I hope you don't use a browser to post data to unknow server only to read it yourself?

Re:the cloud is dead (2)

Aighearach (97333) | about a year ago | (#45404785)

That's fine, nobody is forcing you to make money off of networked computers.

Personally, I'd rather do business with RedHat than Amazon if pricing and service is comparable. Especially if Open Source means I have a turn-key package to run my own hosting, with the same VMs, on my own servers to handle the minimum load, and then I can buy the extra peak load from RedHat. That would be heaven.

Right now it is a bit of a pain, because the typical setup is hand-managed servers for the minimum, and then proprietary tools for the cloud compute units. Nobody is really bridging that in a way that lets the customer take advantage of price savings.

And by the way, it is the exact same NSA regardless of if my hosting provider is company A, or company B. Totally not relevant.

Re:the cloud is dead (1)

eric_herm (1231134) | about a year ago | (#45405035)

I think the idea is to have your own on-demand cloud and server, ie for internal customers in big company.

Re:the cloud is dead (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45405997)

you sound like a good customer for a private cloud! Imagine: you have a few machines in your facility that the NSA can't snoop. Your own little EC2! neat.

"cloud evangelist" ?? (1)

vikingpower (768921) | about a year ago | (#45403757)

WTF ? I mean, with such a job title, how ridiculous can one be ???

Re: "cloud evangelist" ?? (1)

slydder (549704) | about a year ago | (#45403909)

Really? You're actually asking this question? We are speaking of Richard âoethe DICKâoe Morrel here. The only thing bigger than his mouth is his ego. He is almost the entire reason we forked off and started IPCop back then. Nothing much to expect from him except temper tantrams, threats and hot air. Wishing RH a lot of luck with that one.

Put Your Data in The Clown (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45403889)

Clown Computing. Clown storage. Clown servers! Clown backup! We're number one in Clown Security! Whoopee! Tape your spreadsheets to the windows facing outward! Put your data in The Clown!

Re:Put Your Data in The Clown (1)

jythie (914043) | about a year ago | (#45403987)

Well... I am going to have nightmares tonight now....

How about... (2)

mlts (1038732) | about a year ago | (#45404041)

There are a lot of cloud providers, but what would be nice is a standard on client-side encryption and key management [1], regardless of what cloud provider destination. That way, if I'm sending files to Dropbox, S3, Glacier, RH's cloud, Azure, or another provider, all I have to do is change out the name and authentication info, not have to use a completely different API. This would also allow me to have redundant cloud storage for vital documents, automatically retrieving a document even if one of the providers is offline.

[1]: Key management is just as important as encryption, but it is something that gets forgotten about until a disaster, and one has a nice pile of tapes... but no way to decrypt them.

Re:How about... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45409827)

SpiderOak is making great progress towards this.

"Cloud Video" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45404093)

Misread this as "Red Hat Wants to be a Dominant Force in Cloud Video" and thought they were so upset at YouTube/Google + integration they were going to do something about it. So disappointed.

Anybody (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45405227)

have the cloud-to-butt browser extension?

what about support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45405965)

If I pay for support, and I have my own rpms of openstack, will Redhat support running RHEL5 guests in the Redhat hypervisors? Who can I ask for a clear answer about that?

In short, how much can I deviate from the official redhat openstack packages before they won't help support the code?

Who else can I hire to help support this custom openstack code?

Re: what about support? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45406831)

Why would you expect RH to support code they didn't ship?

That said, RH is pretty good about supporting your operating system regardless of what virtualization you are on - if they think the problem is your virtualization, what do you expect them to do? I'm sure they'd be happy to help you upgrade to a supported (supportable) OpenStack distribution.

I want be a Jedi, but today is not possible!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45406807)

Be calm Red Hat the road is long.

NO Thanks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45407573)

The company that inflicted systemd on us and shoved it down our unwilling throats, that has bullied and harried virtually every other distro into adopting many of it's worst abortions of the UNIX way, that's single handedly pushing a growing number of people toward *bsd who were once quite happy with Linux, now a dominant player in "cloud" computing.

No fucking thanks. Red Hat is the Microsoft of Linux, and it's really starting to show.

cloud-to-butt (1)

dhart (1261) | about a year ago | (#45410161)

Slashdot video needs a cloud-to-butt plugin. But seriously, Ubuntu is now the dominant OS in the space (surprise!) largely because Canonical has been focused here since 2009, and they've made some very astute decisions backing the right technologies, e.g. shifting quickly from Eucalyptus to Open Stack.
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