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Puzzled Scientists Say Strange Things Are Happening On the Sun

Soulskill posted about 10 months ago | from the i-blame-the-schools dept.

Earth 342

Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Robert Lee Hotz reports in the WSJ that current solar activity is stranger than it has been in a century or more. The sun is producing barely half the number of sunspots as expected, and its magnetic poles are oddly out of sync. Based on historical records, astronomers say the sun this fall ought to be nearing the explosive climax of its approximate 11-year cycle of activity—the so-called solar maximum. But this peak is 'a total punk,' says Jonathan Cirtain. 'I would say it is the weakest in 200 years,' adds David Hathaway, head of the solar physics group at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center. Researchers are puzzled. They can't tell if the lull is temporary or the onset of a decades-long decline, which might ease global warming a bit by altering the sun's brightness or the wavelengths of its light. To complicate the riddle, the sun also is undergoing one of its oddest magnetic reversals on record, with the sun's magnetic poles out of sync for the past year so the sun technically has two South Poles. Several solar scientists speculate that the sun may be returning to a more relaxed state after an era of unusually high activity that started in the 1940s (PDF). 'More than half of solar physicists would say we are returning to a norm,' says Mark Miesch. 'We might be in for a longer state of suppressed activity.' If so, the decline in magnetic activity could ease global warming, the scientists say. But such a subtle change in the sun—lowering its luminosity by about 0.1%—wouldn't be enough to outweigh the build-up of greenhouse gases and soot that most researchers consider the main cause of rising world temperatures over the past century or so. 'Given our current understanding of how the sun varies and how climate responds, were the sun to enter a new Maunder Minimum, it would not mean a new Little Ice Age,' says Judith Lean. 'It would simply slow down the current warming by a modest amount.'"

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Global warming.. (5, Funny)

Silpher (1379267) | about 10 months ago | (#45410153)

Just sayin.. you're warned..

Re:Global warming.. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410363)

The human ingenuity has no limits! We saw a new ice age coming and created the polluting industrial society to counter the effect.

Re:Global warming.. (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410823)

When I was young people were really worried about global cooling.

Re:Global warming.. (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410891)

You probably mean the talks in 1970s. This hypothesis had little support in the scientific community, but gained temporary popular attention due to a combination of a slight downward trend of temperatures from the 1940s to the early 1970s and press reports that did not accurately reflect the full scope of the scientific climate literature, i.e., a larger and faster-growing body of literature projecting future warming due to greenhouse gas emissions. The current scientific opinion on climate change is that the Earth has not durably cooled, but undergone global warming throughout the 20th century.

Re:Global warming.. (1, Insightful)

Dunbal (464142) | about 10 months ago | (#45410957)

This hypothesis had little support in the scientific community,

The support was just as valid as the current support for the warming argument. People were just looking at a different part of the "historical" graph.

Re:Global warming.. (5, Informative)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 10 months ago | (#45411129)

To say that the science beyond 'global cooling' / "new ice age" in the 1970's was anywhere near as robust or accepted by scientists in the field (as opposed to bored journalists and second tier science fiction authors) is simply untrue. A number of papers were written, people thought about it, but it never gained the acceptance that the current climate change scenarios have.

Re:Global warming.. (1, Insightful)

DiamondGeezer (872237) | about 10 months ago | (#45411187)

Sounds like standard denial to me.

Re:Global warming.. (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411345)

It was just as much as a Fail as the current Global Warming science though.

Seventeen years now, isn't it?

Re:Global warming.. (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411271)

I was alive then, and I can remember the CIA put forward proposals to do things like scatter soot on the Antarctic, dam the Gulf Stream and create a huge lake in the middle of Africa. The environmentalists on Earth Day 1970 were all warning about a new Ice age.

Here are a couple of papers from the scientists of those times...

http://ams.allenpress.com/archive/1520-0493/106/3/pdf/i1520-0493-106-3-413.pdf

http://ams.allenpress.com/perlserv/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.1175%2F1520-0450(1971)010%3C0703:TEOAAO%3E2.0.CO%3B2

Re:Global warming.. (1)

geogob (569250) | about 10 months ago | (#45410461)

Just sayin.. you're warmed..

You missed one half of an m...

Re:Global warming.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410975)

It's already paused, and it's not likely to continue. While it would be wise to move to nuclear power this century since fossil fuels are a limited resource, doing it for the fad notion over atmospheric temperatures is ridiculous.

Re:Global warming.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411097)

Praise be to the Lord that we have such Avatars of Truth in our midst.

Re:Global warming.. (2, Funny)

AikonMGB (1013995) | about 10 months ago | (#45411353)

When will people finally realize that anthropogenic solar cooling is a real issue that affects all of us?

It's climate change (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410157)

Climate change is messing up our sun!

Re:It's climate change (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410163)

Ignorance is messing with your head.

Re:It's climate change (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411367)

No sense of humour is messing with yours.

It's Edward Snowden !!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410741)

Climate change is messing up our sun!

Climate change my foot !

It's all the fault of Edward Snowden !

it's because of that GODDAMN TRAITOR the sun is mishaving right now !

In before Cold Fdjord told you so

Re:It's Edward Snowden !!! (4, Funny)

jones_supa (887896) | about 10 months ago | (#45410919)

It's all the fault of Edward Snowden !

Edward Snowden would be a good name for some evil antagonist who creates heavy global cooling.

Re:It's Edward Snowden !!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410953)

Sort of the new Goldstein.

Re:It's Edward Snowden !!! (3, Funny)

Dunbal (464142) | about 10 months ago | (#45410959)

Yes. I believe the time tested manner of calming down the sun is via human sacrifice. Quick, build more pyramids!

Re:It's climate change (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410965)

No!! it's all those solar panel's on house's which is making the sun run flat !!!
Take them all off and burn more coal and build more nuclear rector's that will fix it !!
Dam Green'es !!!

Re:It's climate change (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411119)

I guess a rector is some kind of agent that performs a process upon your rectum. No, wait, that's a priest in charge of a parish, right? Now I'm really confused.

Re:It's climate change (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 10 months ago | (#45411387)

Humorous, but possibly true... is the sun's climate changing?

Grab your tinfoil hats! (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410165)

Grab your tinfoil hats!

I'm not saying it's aliens... (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410533)

.... ...but it's aliens.

The winter is coming (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410175)

...

Re:The winter is coming (2)

Z00L00K (682162) | about 10 months ago | (#45410455)

Winter?

The next ice age is approaching!

Screw Global Warming, nature is messing with us.

Re:The winter is coming (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410511)

wooosh

Re:The winter is coming (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410521)

I think it's a mis-quote of "Winter is coming" which would, in fact, make it something like an ice age. I hated that book, not that it matters.

Re:The winter is coming (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about 10 months ago | (#45410939)

The next ice age is approaching!

There was actually recently a report which claims that the world is heading for a period of cooling [telegraph.co.uk] that will not end until the middle of this century.

Re:The winter is coming (3, Interesting)

mcgrew (92797) | about 10 months ago | (#45411401)

I see I'm the only one who RTFA (saw this yesterday). The most this will do is to slow global warming somewhat.

However, in 10,000 years when the seasons have flipped and the northern hemisphere has winter in June and summer in December they'll probably have another ice age. Ice ages are cyclical.

Re:The winter is coming (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410887)

The winter is coming

No, it's not. The best Christmases ever: around +40C on verandah, with heaps of cold beer.

CLIMATE CHANGE! (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410179)

OMG! More proof of climate change! Quick, give more money to climate 'scientists'!

I bet all you climate-change-deniers are feeling foolish now.

Re:CLIMATE CHANGE! (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410321)

OMG! More proof of climate change! Quick, give more money to climate 'scientists'!

I bet all you climate-change-deniers are feeling foolish now.

It is interesting how successful the Koch brothers were with their anti-AGW Think Tank funding. They couldn't discredit the science, so they discredited scientists instead. And have created this fantastic meme that it is the scientist side of this discussion that has a big economic interest in it.

Re:CLIMATE CHANGE! (4, Insightful)

khallow (566160) | about 10 months ago | (#45410769)

It is interesting how successful the Koch brothers were with their anti-AGW Think Tank funding. They couldn't discredit the science, so they discredited scientists instead. And have created this fantastic meme that it is the scientist side of this discussion that has a big economic interest in it.

Oceania always had a need for an Emmanuel Goldstein. Here, the Koch brothers are attributed with a near mythical level of persuasion even though on the propaganda front they're greatly outspent, for example, by Greenpeace, the World Wildlife Fund, and the EU.

My view is that over the decades, the environmentalism movement has fucked over a lot of people. I know I became disenchanted when Greenpeace (US branch, I believe) libeled Du Pont (incidentally with global warming FUD) while I was working there around 1990. The society-wide distrust of the AGW theory is one of those consequences.

People might still be willing to make small but meaningless sacrifices (such as recycling programs) for the environment, but when it affects your life and those you care about for little, if any, gain, people get more discerning.

Re:CLIMATE CHANGE! (0)

TapeCutter (624760) | about 10 months ago | (#45411015)

....created this fantastic meme that it is the scientist side of this discussion that has a big economic interest in it.

It's the WSJ opinion pages, 'nuff said.

Re:CLIMATE CHANGE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411137)

> And have created this fantastic meme that it is the scientist side of this discussion that has a big economic interest in it.

Which is a serious achievement, given how idiotic and baseless a position it represents. To all of you pathetic, inbred fuckwits who fell for this brilliant exercise in propaganda: feel ashamed. Feel very ashamed.

Re:CLIMATE CHANGE! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411327)

Listen to the AGW troll whining about people being "discredited". It's not like the Koch brothers called the Deniers or something.

Troll (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410207)

First one to figure out how to blame this on capitalism/corporate greed gets a Nobel prize.

Re:Troll (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410285)

The Sun God is angry! Sacrifice the corporate capitalists to appease the Sun God!!

I'll take the cash value of that Nobel Prize in lottery tickets, thanks.

Earth (1)

Pharoah_69 (2866937) | about 10 months ago | (#45410217)

Puzzled Scientists Say Strange Things Are Happening On the Earth; News at 10.

Scientists don't know everything (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410231)

Scientists don't know everything about everything, but they want to know. That's how science works: it's a process.

Re:Scientists don't know everything (1, Insightful)

Koby77 (992785) | about 10 months ago | (#45410253)

Apparently not enough to want to determine a baseline study if it might go against their political beliefs.

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/24/nebraska_approves_climate_denying_study_scientists_refuse_to_conduct_it/ [salon.com]

Re:Scientists don't know everything (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410315)

For your Slashdot car analogy... after saving up for years, guy with Porsche gets asked by his wife why he doesn't want to pick up the groceries.

If there was data to support "Nebraska's" theory, people would have caught onto it -- it's like an IRS audit of someone's impeccable taxes because you don't think the answer "feels" right.

Re:Scientists don't know everything (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411235)

No, the reason scientists don't want to look into it is because there's no money in it for them.
Global Warming is the new scam for politicians everywhere to exploit to milk the cashcow on green taxes and carbon credits.

Re:Scientists don't know everything (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410701)

Re:Scientists don't know everything (-1, Flamebait)

Dunbal (464142) | about 10 months ago | (#45410979)

No, that's how science is supposed to work. Like everything else, nowadays, however, it has become corrupted. Now the only projects that get funded are the ones supporting a particular line of reasoning. Experiments are done without controls, and ad hoc hypotheses created to explain anomalies in the data. Politicians actively suppress researchers who suggest things that contradict doctrine. Oh, and what exactly do you think the "peer review" process is all about? Since when did "peer review" publishing become part of the scientific method? The only "review" one needs is to be able to reproduce the experiment.

I don't trust "scientists" much anymore. Any real progress and truth is hidden by a minefield of deceit, a moat of lies, and battlement upon battlement of patent and copyright lawyers. In the future no doubt humanity will be taken for such a ride by some greedy narcissist that the whole scientific community will be shaken up, ironed out, and we can finally start again making real progress.

Re:Scientists don't know everything (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 10 months ago | (#45411147)

That's nice, the rest of us will work through the difficulties of human endevours and still try to piece the truth together.

Re:Scientists don't know everything (5, Insightful)

chittychitty!! (2139420) | about 10 months ago | (#45411211)

The peer review process, which has been around quite some time, works to prevent exactly the problems you claim exist with science today. Many peer-reviewed results later turn out to be incorrect - science does not follow a straight path to some mythical "truth" - but for the most part, papers which are peer reviewed are much more likely to be reporting work carried out in accordance with accepted scientific practice. The reason most people don't trust scientists is because, being scientifically illiterate themselves, they rely on the media to digest science for them. Stories of corrupted science and wild claims sell much better than the dull, careful, incremental progress most scientists make, leading to a popular perception of minefields of deceit or moats of lies.

Thanks alot, Sun... (5, Insightful)

beaverdownunder (1822050) | about 10 months ago | (#45410245)

...hey, if it buys us a hundred years to figure this pollution shit out, I ain't gonna look a gift horse in the mouth.

Are you?

she said "modest" (2)

rewindustry (3401253) | about 10 months ago | (#45410343)

so more like an extra year or two, at best, and probably more like a few months.

it's later than you think, and possibly too late already, only we hope not.

Re:she said "modest" (1)

khallow (566160) | about 10 months ago | (#45410651)

Or possibly a lot earlier than you think. I guess we'll just have to see what actually happens.

Re:Thanks alot, Sun... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410445)

You know as well as I do that the deniers will cry about how it was the Suns fault all along, the majority of the public won't care, nothing will be done and whenever the higher intensity state returns we'll be right back where we are now.

Re:Thanks alot, Sun... (2, Insightful)

khallow (566160) | about 10 months ago | (#45410675)

You know as well as I do that the deniers will cry about how it was the Suns fault all along

A scenario which hasn't really been ruled out, you know. All sorts of things have been blamed for why climate models don't match reality - sunlight blocking soot, solar activity changes, and heat absorbed by oceans. I see it as models not matching reality. It may be that one or more of these excuses are valid or it may simply be that the models are in error.

whenever the higher intensity state returns we'll be right back where we are now.

Which isn't a bad place to be. Keep in mind that humanity does other things than merely emitting carbon dioxide such as reducing poverty.

Re:Thanks alot, Sun... (1)

c0lo (1497653) | about 10 months ago | (#45410893)

...hey, if it buys us a hundred years to figure this pollution shit out, I ain't gonna look a gift horse in the mouth.

Are you?

Nah, not doing it even if the horse's not a gift.

Logic anomaly. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410259)

I would say that if you have no idea of what happens on the sun (and scrapping the models for the last centuries of activity means having no idea), you have no idea of its impact on climate, but that is just me...

Re:Logic anomaly. (1, Insightful)

icebike (68054) | about 10 months ago | (#45410345)

Shaddup!
Just look at the kings marvelous new robes, and don't be raining on the parade.

They've never seen this before but they are positive this won't slow down global warming.

Re:Logic anomaly. (2)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 10 months ago | (#45410375)

they are positive this won't slow down global warming.

the decline in magnetic activity could ease global warming, the scientists said.

Re:Logic anomaly. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411199)

Fucking scientists - all they care about is money, which is why they get the big bucks, right? Fortunately, we have geniuses like yourself to interpret the data for us.

Re:Logic anomaly. (4, Insightful)

sjames (1099) | about 10 months ago | (#45410443)

Logic fail. I may have absolutely positively no idea why a refinery exploded but I can easily forecast what that will mean for gas prices.

Likewise they don't know why the sun is acting the way it is but they DO know that that includes very slightly less output and a shift in spectrum and they do know what effect that will have.

Re:Logic anomaly. (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about 10 months ago | (#45411155)

At this distance the fine detail of the sun's internal operation can be approximated out, in the same way that you don't need to understand nuclear structure to have a good grasp on how human respiration works.

Global Freezing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410275)

Its Humans fault for.... harvesting solar energy!... you have been warned!

I wonder what the auspices and augurs have to say. (1)

RamiKro (3019255) | about 10 months ago | (#45410303)

Re:I wonder what the auspices and augurs have to s (1)

Dunbal (464142) | about 10 months ago | (#45410987)

Well one look at the sheep's bladder today, and I knew I was having mutton for dinner.

Puzzled reader says strange things are happening a (1)

Old Wolf (56093) | about 10 months ago | (#45410319)

Sun’s Hemispheres Out Of Sync During Magnetic Field

Written by: Tara Dodrill Trending August 8, 2013 3 Comments

Oh Great (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410327)

Next you'll tell me that Some Thing is Wrong on Saturn 3. [youtube.com]

Sunspots we miss you!! (1)

WaffleMonster (969671) | about 10 months ago | (#45410349)

Please come back my crappy antenna needs all the help it can get.

glass half empty (3, Funny)

jamesh (87723) | about 10 months ago | (#45410367)

'Given our current understanding of how the sun varies and how climate responds, were the sun to enter a new Maunder Minimum, it would not mean a new Little Ice Age,' says Judith Lean. 'It would simply slow down the current warming by a modest amount.'

That's a glass half empty point of view. If we hadn't added a protective layer of CO2 to our atmosphere we could be in an ice age right now.

glass twice as big as it needs to be (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410491)

Because an ice age can occur between the observations made and this story being reported.

Re:glass half empty (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about 10 months ago | (#45410583)

If the difference between high solar activity and low solar activity is just a slowing of warming, how do you conclude that we would be in "an ice age" were the warming not present?

Re:glass half empty (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410847)

Actually we still haven't left the current ice age.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_glaciation

So right now we are still talking about how quickly we are leaving the current ice age.

Re:glass half empty (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about 10 months ago | (#45411161)

We're in an interglacial, which I would've thought was my obvious meaning from the context.

Re:glass half empty (4, Informative)

Kamien (1561193) | about 10 months ago | (#45411159)

Exactly.
The difference between high and low solar activity is small (0.1% difference).
With solar radiation at the average level of ~1366 W/sqm the variation is a tiny 1.3 Watts...

The temperatures during the so-called Little Ice Age were lower than average by less than 1 degree Celsius.
Calling the period an "Ice Age" is incorrect.

A better title (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410391)

A better title to this story would be: "Post-modern scientists puzzled that the Universe doesn't fit their prestigious, incomplete model".

Re:A better title (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410647)

why are you modded up? people are morons...

Re:A better title (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410693)

why are you modded up? people are morons...

I was modded up by those that aren't.

Re:A better title (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411329)

why are you modded up? people are morons...

Actually he/she is right. Maybe the predictions made by previous research or models should be revised (as science usually does) instead of gasping at the phenomenon. Although I believe the part with "puzzled scientists" is just a sensationalist interpretation of some clueless journalist. :)

Re:A better title (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410927)

Your comment makes me think you'd be happier listening to people who make up stories to explain away the unknown... good luck with that.

Re:A better title (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about 10 months ago | (#45411189)

Wouldn't postmodernist scientists operate under the assumption that their model was an incomplete description, largely driven by their cultural and social norms as opposed to an underlying reality?

Mayan Calendar (3, Funny)

thisisauniqueid (825395) | about 10 months ago | (#45410463)

In other news, archaeologists discover we were one year off in our estimates of the end of the next Long Count cycle on the Mayan Calendar.

Re:Mayan Calendar (2)

geogob (569250) | about 10 months ago | (#45410685)

On top of that, the Gregorian calendar is also soon coming to an end. It can only mean bad things...

good! (0, Troll)

stenvar (2789879) | about 10 months ago | (#45410489)

But such a subtle change in the sun—lowering its luminosity by about 0.1%—wouldn't be enough to outweigh the build-up of greenhouse gases and soot that most researchers consider the main cause of rising world temperatures over the past century or so.

Glad to hear it. I prefer a warmer planet.

Re:good! (4, Insightful)

dave420 (699308) | about 10 months ago | (#45410775)

You think you do, but if you knew more about how the planet operates, you'd know that a warmer planet won't be as pleasant to live in. But screw science, right? Whatever feels good or seems good must be good. You're an island, and everything else will figure out a way to work, and there won't be any periods of instability while hundred-year-old industries and economies adjust to large changes in climate. Right?

Leave the sun alone (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410505)

Look, I know the sun hasnt been meeting its performance goals as of late, but its just going through some stuff, OK? The sun is working on getting its shit together and will be back better than ever, but you just gotta cool off man.

Blah blah blah global warming blah blah (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410509)

OMFG, who cares. Jesus.

THIS IS THE END! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410523)

The sun is shutdown modus forced by the GOP who can't stand the free light and warmth for everyone. That's dirty socialism.
Austerity plans will now set in and the sun will be forced to shrink. Ted Cruz demanded that only a minimal or no sun is a good sun.
And you know what will then come : the red danger. The commie sun will rise its ugly head and expand. Planet after planet will fall prey and ruled by an ion fist.
And the new hot war will destroy the earth with its nuclear fissions.

America, awake! Fight the good fight and stop the GOP. The root and cause of all evil. Save earth, kill the GOP.

It's started (1)

SomeoneFromBelgium (3420851) | about 10 months ago | (#45410537)

The end of the world! Run! Run to me! I can save you! Run to me and be sure to bring your checkbook because absolution from all the sins of the world doesn't come cheap!!

Re:It's started (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411225)

Yay, the Rapture is coming!

Shivans (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410615)

The Shivan armada of Sathanas-class ships has started attacking the Sun!

Nooooo (2)

tanveer1979 (530624) | about 10 months ago | (#45410661)

After witnessing the Aurora, I say this is sad news. Quiet sun means fewer displays like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEHRoyvh_Ec [youtube.com]

And maybe no more of those wild sun moments when satellite engineers go berserk in fear.

electric sun. (0)

danda (11343) | about 10 months ago | (#45410703)

I wonder what the electric universe (and electric sun) theorists will have to say about this.

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they predicted this type of activity years ago. That's what happened with comets after all, and the mainstream was surprised over and over again as we got better and better pictures of rocky comets and performed experiments that matched the EU predictions and not the "dirty ball of ice" theory. See:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34wtt2EUToo

Re: electric sun. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410809)

Except that the electric universe theory has been debunked long ago as simply silly and wrong.

Stop spreading that nonsense.

Did I do that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410705)

Did I do that?

What's happening Flash? (4, Funny)

quenda (644621) | about 10 months ago | (#45410765)

Only Doctor Hans Zarkhov, formerly at NASA, has provided any explanation.

It's God (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410795)

Obviously, God has turned down the thermostat to compensate for mankinds foolish release of CO2.

Nukes (2)

biodata (1981610) | about 10 months ago | (#45410835)

I'm guessing the solution will involve Bruce Willis and a spaceship full of nukes flying to the sun to save us all

Re:Nukes (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about 10 months ago | (#45411209)

Danny Boyle already made that movie.

stop looking at the sun (1, Insightful)

Mister Liberty (769145) | about 10 months ago | (#45410857)

for causes and effects of global warming. It's a nearly
stable factor.
Do something about the shit under your nose.

you know what Marconi said... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410897)

that RF is funny stuff!

seriously though, ham radio is a tough hobby when you have to wait 11 years for each peak in a cycle... this one definitely sucks though...

Shorter than a blink of the eye (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410899)

We've been observing a 4.57 billion year old object for a few hundred years, perhaps what we've observed is abnormal for our star in the long run.

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