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CyanogenMod Windows-Based Installer Released, With Supporting Android App

Soulskill posted about 10 months ago | from the ready-for-prime-time dept.

Android 74

Zanadou writes "CyanogenMod today released for general availability a friendly[er]-to-use Windows-based installer that will automagically (no need to first root and/or unlock the bootloader) step users though downloading, flashing and setting up an appropriate CyanogenMod version on supported Android phones. Along with this, a 'companion app' that apparently helps set up the installer is now available the Play Store, along with a newly-refreshed download page. Still no image for 'hammerhead' (Nexus 5), though."

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So much for supporting open source.... (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45409121)

The installer is windows only! Next step. Bundled adware.

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (4, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45409163)

The installer is intended to be so easy your grandma can use it. If you use Linux chances are you are smart enough to install Cyanogen without someone holding your hand.

Re: So much for supporting open source.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45409187)

+1

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (4, Interesting)

_merlin (160982) | about 10 months ago | (#45410101)

So much for all that advice to get your grandma onto Linux.

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (2)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 10 months ago | (#45410407)

Mom? Why won't granny boot up? I thought she was just low on RAM.

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410883)

Great. So now I gotta ram your grandma after I'm done with your mom?

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 10 months ago | (#45412245)

If you're trying to get your grandmother onto linux AND onto a smartphone AND onto cyanogenmod, either your grandma is smart enough to handle it, or you're being way too ambitious and your grandmother is going to give up and simply bake cookies rather than send you chain e-mails or call you to bother you to get a girlfriend... which actually doesn't sound like a bad plan...

A nice grandma to bake more cookies (1)

tepples (727027) | about 10 months ago | (#45412279)

or you're being way too ambitious and your grandmother is going to give up and simply bake cookies

You had to bring it up [knowyourmeme.com] .

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 10 months ago | (#45414291)

If she has an Android phone she's already on Linux.

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (4, Insightful)

TheSeatOfMyPants (2645007) | about 10 months ago | (#45410111)

Wanting a "streamlined" option for accomplishing a task has nothing to do with how smart or knowledgeable a person is. For example, I've used Linux for 5 years and have installed plenty of firmware, but I find doing so stressful and tedious -- I'd rather click through a few screens so Ican start actively working on the device.

Besides, if you're a Linux user, you should know perfectly well that these days, it really doesn't take any more intelligence/knowledge to use it than to use OSXor Windows. To be honest, I find Mac OSX the hardest for some reason. :-)

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (2)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about 10 months ago | (#45410861)

Wanting a "streamlined" option for accomplishing a task has nothing to do with how smart or knowledgeable a person is. For example, I've used Linux for 5 years and have installed plenty of firmware, but I find doing so stressful and tedious -- I'd rather click through a few screens so Ican start actively working on the device.

I agree. I spend my days writing C++ code on Linux and C and ASM code which I flash onto microcontrollers from Linux. Given the annoyace and tediousness of reflashing phones (will it be bricked? Did I back up my google apps?) I also appreciate it being easier.

Besides, if you're a Linux user, you should know perfectly well that these days, it really doesn't take any more intelligence/knowledge to use it than to use OSXor Windows. To be honest, I find Mac OSX the hardest for some reason. :-)

Glad I'm not the only one. I expect Windows to be different, so that's OK. OSX still is vaguely Linuxy, close enough to feel it should be but too different to actually work smoothly.

And neither or them run a decent window manager.

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411999)

OSX still is vaguely Linuxy, close enough to feel it should be but too different to actually work smoothly

OS X is not "Linuxy", it's UNIX. You could say Linux is "Unixy", but not the other way around.

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (0)

certain death (947081) | about 10 months ago | (#45412185)

Actually it is BSD, and BSD is NOT UNIX.

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (1)

geminidomino (614729) | about 10 months ago | (#45412285)

BSD is Unix, but it's not UNIX(tm).

OS X is UNIX (3, Informative)

tepples (727027) | about 10 months ago | (#45412385)

Actually [OS X] is BSD, and BSD is NOT UNIX.

OS X has been UNIX since 10.5 [slashdot.org] according to The Open Group.

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (1)

N0Man74 (1620447) | about 10 months ago | (#45414775)

But "BSDy" doesn't roll off the tongue as well!

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (3, Interesting)

timbo234 (833667) | about 10 months ago | (#45410895)

+1 to this. I've worked as a Linux sysadmin and enjoyed scripting and all that but fiddling around flashing a phone just isn't fun. It's an apprehensive time thinking whether you have the exact right firmware image or whether the phone will be a brick.

I hope one day I can just install new FW on my phone as easy as an 'apt-get install' on a Debian system.

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (1)

rikkards (98006) | about 10 months ago | (#45410989)

Although it seems that if you have already put CM on it, it won't detect the phone :(

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (1)

rikkards (98006) | about 10 months ago | (#45411003)

I take that back setting USB Debugging on helps.
Doh

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (1)

Monoman (8745) | about 10 months ago | (#45411021)

Agreed. I have found some very smart folks that refuse to let go and feel there is a need to do everything manually. I have also found smart folks that just want things easy to do so they can get back to doing what they want to do. Tinkerers vs non-tinkerers.

I thought I was the only person to OSX hard to use over most other OSs. I tried it for a year as my main desktop at home and finally gave up.

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (1)

HereIAmJH (1319621) | about 10 months ago | (#45414381)

I have found some very smart folks that refuse to let go and feel there is a need to do everything manually. I have also found smart folks that just want things easy to do so they can get back to doing what they want to do. Tinkerers vs non-tinkerers.

It's a matter of choosing what we want to tinker with. I have two raspberry Pis for pending projects, and itching to grab a BeagleBone. And I'm planning to build a VM host server so I can tinker with HA SQL servers. I also prefer to do all my own auto repairs and DIY jobs around the house. What I don't have interest in is tinkering with is rebuilding my tablet if this bricks it (gTab 2 doesn't appear to be supported yet anyway), and I'm on call 24x7 so I'm not very adventurous with my cell. With a full time+ job I need to be selective on how I commit my time.

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411443)

A dedicated live cd (linux, freedos, bsd, windows,whatever) would be the proper solution, if only hardware were standardized as in the early windows era.

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (2)

couchslug (175151) | about 10 months ago | (#45412239)

The installer is meant to be USEFUL to the maximum number of people, not humor you. An OS is a tool, like a wrench or a hammer. It's trivial for a Linux user to keep a "spare" Windows install for when that tool is useful, and it's effortless to have an .iso and Daz loader handy even if you for some bizarre reason pay for software and give a shit about further rewarding your corporate elite masters.
It is NOT trivial for most Windows users to learn Linux when they don't have an enthusiasts interest in spending a few hundred hours doing that. (Start figuring actual time spent learning one's first OS then the second, then consider if you weren't a techy autodidact who does this for fun.)
Windows installers for non-Windows software are fine things because they help "embrace and extend" and eventually extinguish. Shit works both ways, yo!
LOTD may happen, but as the D is replaced for many users by the P(hone) that end-runs around the problem. It takes years, but there is no shortage of time in the long game. Users see the power of Free Software on their cherished phones, they use Chromebooks etc, and that user experience is powerful. Windows can rule the consumer desktop, but as consumers lose interest in that desktop Windows becomes less relevant. As phones move towards being a complete dockable drop-in replacement for PCs, it will be easy to toggle between interfaces.
Transition tools are good.

Re:So much for supporting open source.... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45418133)

" It's trivial for a Linux user to keep a "spare" Windows install for when that tool is useful, and it's effortless to have an .iso and Daz loader handy..."

trivial but not desirable in the least. i don't appreciate it and if they can't install a free, easy to use linux distro on one machine then they can use the phone co. build. why should i have to buy, borrow or "steal" a slaveware OS to use the easy installer? this is selling out by cyanogenmod, plain and simple. no grand rationailzations are necessary.

Support for Sprint HTC One (2)

log0n (18224) | about 10 months ago | (#45409169)

Score!

Just upgraded, love this phone. Not terribly interested in rooting/rom'ing like I used to be, but I do like having the CM option readily available.

why be douchey about the latest shiny? (1)

Gothmolly (148874) | about 10 months ago | (#45409171)

This is a new advance from the CM people, why throw in the dig about the Nexus5, or are you just trying to brag that you have one?

Re:why be douchey about the latest shiny? (3, Insightful)

log0n (18224) | about 10 months ago | (#45409207)

CM almost always targets the Nexus device first (since the Nexus line started) which then trickles to everything else. This is not the case this go round*, so the comment was probably a heads up to N5 owners wanting CM.

(*probably because current CM is still JB, Nexus 5 is KK, so releasing for the 5 would require back porting JB, which is a lot of wasted effort)

Re:why be douchey about the latest shiny? (1)

jrumney (197329) | about 10 months ago | (#45409533)

I don't think they've ever "targeted the Nexus device" within two weeks of it becoming available, so I don't think it is fair to claim that "This is not the case this go round".

Re:why be douchey about the latest shiny? (1)

bemymonkey (1244086) | about 10 months ago | (#45409933)

Not sure if they've ever managed to get nightlies running on the new Nexus two weeks after its release, but they've always pretty much dropped everything to flock to the newest device as soon as it was available.

Re:why be douchey about the latest shiny? (1)

Goose In Orbit (199293) | about 10 months ago | (#45411313)

they've always pretty much dropped everything to flock to the newest device as soon as it was available.

Usually giving up on the device I just bought... (4 phones in a row now - I sure know how to pick 'em ... I wonder if Apple will pay me not to buy an iPhone? ;^D )

Does this replace the kernel? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45409213)

I can't seem to find this information but it the kernel is the biggest issue in any north american phone. Companies like Verizon and AT&T lock down the phone and it becomes incredibly difficult to replace the kernel with a custom one. My friend just sent me everything he used to unlock his just yesterday so I'll do it through his method but verizon is an ass that deserves to lose all of its customers.

Re:Does this replace the kernel? (4, Informative)

Shavano (2541114) | about 10 months ago | (#45409377)

From their wiki:
  -- begin fair use --

Common questions

        Do I need to root my phone before installing?
                No. You can have a rooted phone, or not. The installer doesn't care. However, to be in a supported configuration, you need to be running a stock ROM.
        Do I need to unlock my bootloader first?
                No, you don't. If your bootloader is locked, we'll unlock it for you.
        Can I install if I'm running a custom ROM?
                Provided the installer can identify your phone correctly, it doesn't matter which ROM you're running. Again, to be in a fully supported configuration, you should be running a stock ROM. If you're already running a custom ROM, you probably know what you're doing.
        How do I get back to stock?
                You may perform a full backup from recovery, after flashing recovery (you will have to do this manually, at the moment) and then copy it off the device, if you don't have an external sdcard. If you've already run the installer, you will have to find stock images and flash them using fastboot or Odin.

-- end fair use --

Re:Does this replace the kernel? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410595)

AC Just stopping by to say thank you! That's quite helpful. Perhaps this will get me started on dirty unicorn. A dirty way to approach the hack but i suppose it's a start.

Re:Does this replace the kernel? (2)

cheater512 (783349) | about 10 months ago | (#45409953)

Yes it does, no it usually isn't the carrier who puts the locks in place. That is the phone manufacturer (which you seem to have omitted).

I don't think any phone has stopped them for long.

Re:Does this replace the kernel? (1)

tepples (727027) | about 10 months ago | (#45415809)

But it's the carriers who say "We won't activate your phones on our network unless you lock them down." CDMA2000 phones on Verizon, Sprint, and Sprint MVNOs don't use a CSIM, and AT&T requires subscribers to pay for a subsidized phone whether they get one or not.

mod uP (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45409321)

[%nero-online.org] copy a 17 Meg file Any parting shot, or mislead the would choose to use about a project claim that BSD is a like they are Come whether to repeat Assholes, as they

sony tipo not supported (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45409539)

tried it but my crappy tipoelcheapo phone is not supported !

Damn

di34 (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45409603)

has signi7icantly case you want to But now they're This very moment, of the founders of

Great work these guys are doing (5, Insightful)

FuzzNugget (2840687) | about 10 months ago | (#45409871)

But I really wish the phone technology ecosystem didn't *require* good people, like the guys at CM, to do what they do.

I'm referring mostly to the locked-down, restrictive, anti-user bullshit that defines the smartphone world. Boot loaders that are locked, software that you can't easily remove ... change any of that and you'll void your warranty, of course. When's the last time you voided a warranty on a real computer's hardware for modifying some fucking *software*?!

I should be able to pop in a micro SD card into any smartphone (yes, all smartphones should support one) and install any operating system with the right drivers.

Y'know, like a *computer* (because it is one)

Re:Great work these guys are doing (2)

flyingfsck (986395) | about 10 months ago | (#45410145)

So just buy an unlocked phone from AlShop.com or Souq.com or hundreds of others.

That's fine if you can get T-Mobile (1)

tepples (727027) | about 10 months ago | (#45415849)

That might work for people who happen to already live within T-Mobile's service area. Otherwise, good luck activating an unlocked phone on Verizon or Sprint or finding an affordable plan on AT&T.

Re:Great work these guys are doing (1)

Thantik (1207112) | about 10 months ago | (#45412083)

I can void my warranty on multiple pieces of hardware in my computer simply by overclocking. There are now hardware-level fuses that can't be reset on video cards, cpus, etc. I think that counts.

Replicant (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45412241)

Just a reminder that Replicant [replicant.us] is a thing that exists. It doesn't work 100% for everything (I hear camera support especially is bad), but to be fair, it is still pretty early in its life. If you are opposed to using locked down, restricted software, then using fully free software like Replicant is one way to break free from that.

Re:Great work these guys are doing (2)

mrchaotica (681592) | about 10 months ago | (#45412675)

change any of that and you'll void your warranty, of course

Just because the manufacturer says so, doesn't make it true: "Warrantors cannot require that only branded parts be used with the product in order to retain the warranty [wikipedia.org] ."

I'm not sure if a situation has actually occurred yet where a manufacturer actually declined to honor a warranty claim on faulty hardware due to the presence of "non-branded" software and got sued for it, though.

Other than that, I agree with you wholeheartedly!

Re:Great work these guys are doing (1)

Threni (635302) | about 10 months ago | (#45415375)

You don't void your warranty in the EU doing that. You need to speak to a politician or something.

Re:Great work these guys are doing (1)

exomondo (1725132) | about 10 months ago | (#45418259)

When's the last time you voided a warranty on a real computer's hardware for modifying some fucking *software*?!

Overclocking.

I should be able to pop in a micro SD card into any smartphone (yes, all smartphones should support one) and install any operating system with the right drivers.

Nobody is obligated to sell you such a device, take the initiative and support programs like OpenMoko.

Apps (2)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about 10 months ago | (#45410585)

Does anyone know about what apps come with Cyanogenmod (my google fu is lacking. Mostly it talks about getting the google apps).

I recently acquired a Nexus 4 (yay for the Nexus 5 creating a more vibrant market in second hand Nexi) ans was slightly surprised about the lack of apps already installed compared to my old Samsung phone.

Perhaps I'm old fashioned, but a new computer not having a GUI file manager is like a trip back to 1985 with glitzier graphics. Having to download an ad-infested and possibly privacy invading app requireing "full network access" doesn't seem like an ideal solution.

So, forgive my ignorance, but does CM provide an array of quality OSS apps for actually running the phone in addition to the base windowing system and kernel?

Re:Apps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410787)

Dude just get Total Commander.

Of the fourth declension (3, Insightful)

WaroDaBeast (1211048) | about 10 months ago | (#45410839)

I recently acquired a Nexus 4 (yay for the Nexus 5 creating a more vibrant market in second hand Nexi) ans was slightly surprised about the lack of apps already installed compared to my old Samsung phone.

The plural of "nexus" in Latin in "nexûs." (Actually, the diacritic on the 'u' should be a macron, but alas, Slashdot won't display that character.)

My €0.02.

Re:Of the fourth declension (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45410901)

I recently acquired a Nexus 4 (yay for the Nexus 5 creating a more vibrant market in second hand Nexi) ans was slightly surprised about the lack of apps already installed compared to my old Samsung phone.

The plural of "nexus" in Latin in "nexûs." (Actually, the diacritic on the 'u' should be a macron, but alas, Slashdot won't display that character.)

You forgot to add the most important information: in the nominative!

My €0.02.

Re:Of the fourth declension (1)

WaroDaBeast (1211048) | about 10 months ago | (#45410923)

Any case beside the nominative in never used, except when using Latin phrases.

So, you're right, but case is irrelevant here.

Re:Of the fourth declension (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 10 months ago | (#45414623)

That's all well and good, but Nexus is not a Latin word, even though nexus is. Nexus is a made up brand name that has nothing to do with Latin, any more than Mars candy bars have anything to do with the planet Mars.

Re:Of the fourth declension (2)

WaroDaBeast (1211048) | about 10 months ago | (#45416795)

So, you're telling me that a Latin word that can mean "connection" or "binding" has nothing to do with a phone called "Nexus"? A phone is a tool that we use to connect to each other, right? I find it hard to believe that the people behind that brand just made up a name that exactly looks like an English word — that stems from Latin — when this sort of coincidence arises.

At any rate, that doesn't really matter. I was merely pointing out to the grandparent poster that, if he wishes to use a Latin plural, he should try to at least do it properly. Why bother going through the hassle of using irregular stuff that is optional, anyway? This the mental picture I get when I see such a thing happen: exception handling everywhere in your code — except the error messages don't mean a thing.

Re:Of the fourth declension (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 10 months ago | (#45418553)

Ah, I hadn't noticed that he'd tried to make a Latin plural. My bad.

Re:Apps (1)

bluec (1427065) | about 10 months ago | (#45411105)

It is mostly AOSP with major changes to the settings, themes, some tweaks to stock apps and a lot under-the-hood goodness and performance enhancements, but as far as actual apps that are bundled: Apollo - a quite decent music player DSP Manager - an audio equalizer thing File Manager - a fairly limited file manager However this is quite irrelevant because all the tools/apps you need can be downloaded from google play quite easily. And why bloat a rom with apps?

Re:Apps (1)

umafuckit (2980809) | about 10 months ago | (#45411659)

I recently acquired a Nexus 4 (yay for the Nexus 5 creating a more vibrant market in second hand Nexi) ans was slightly surprised about the lack of apps already installed compared to my old Samsung phone.

I bought the 4 and one reason for doing so was because of the lack of stuff installed by default :) You get to choose what you want on there. You want a GUI file manager? Then find one you like on the Play store. I use ASTRO mostly. You might have to pay to get it ad-free, but the phone is cheap and it's not a bad thing to support a good developer.

Re:Apps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411937)

Agreed. I'd rather the phone/ROM come with few default apps because they will almost never be my preferred apps, and I'll be downloading the ones I like anyway.

FWIW, I use Solid Explorer on my N4.

Re:Apps (1)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about 10 months ago | (#45412531)

Then find one you like on the Play store.

That's difficult. Filemanagers require access to everything plus full network access for ads. I have a hard job trusting programs such as that.

You might have to pay to get it ad-free, but the phone is cheap and it's not a bad thing to support a good developer.

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but the last OS I purchased without a graphical file manager was BBC BASIC. Win 95 onwards have one (I didn't purchase any versions of Windows before '95).

Anyway, I tried the CM one on my Nexus 4 and it works great.

Re:Apps (1)

umafuckit (2980809) | about 10 months ago | (#45412703)

Anyway, I tried the CM one on my Nexus 4 and it works great.

And that's what's great about Android: you can do what works best for you.

Re:Apps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45413371)

That's difficult. Filemanagers require access to everything plus full network access for ads. I have a hard job trusting programs such as that.

Jesus Tap-Dancing Christ. If you're that paranoid you should just go "Stallman Style" and go without any mobile phone at all and start digesting your own toejam. Maybe if you spent less time trolling Wayland articles you would have known about Total Commander [ghisler.com] . It's un-crippled Shareware with no time limit, but you're a cheap British asshole who's also a stickler for source code, so you might want to head over to F-Droid [f-droid.org] and find a half-baked alternative that you can feel smug about.

Re:Apps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45418223)

you think not wanting to give random apps all manner of unecessary permissions is paranoid? you're a $%^&*(# slave!

Re:Apps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45415621)

Then find one you like on the Play store.

That's difficult. Filemanagers require access to everything plus full network access for ads. I have a hard job trusting programs such as that.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.openintents.filemanager
This app has access to these permissions:

Storage:
modify or delete the contents of your USB storage

System tools:
install shortcuts
test access to protected storage

Re: Apps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411771)

If you install F-droid you can get loads of FOSS software, all without ads.

Re:Apps (2)

Trax3001BBS (2368736) | about 10 months ago | (#45411901)

Does anyone know about what apps come with Cyanogenmod (my google fu is lacking. Mostly it talks about getting the google apps).

So, forgive my ignorance, but does CM provide an array of quality OSS apps for actually running the phone in addition to the base windowing system and kernel?

Looking for a place to post my, ... well this:

I've used their mods for almost two years on my tablet. It was upgraded by to 4.12, CyanogenMod has taken it to 4.2.
The tweaks they provide are better than Google/Motorola supplies. I can play with the Dual CPUs if I wanted to
but happy to leave those alone, graphics, just a lot they've opened up to customization.

Also the goodies they include are great, I'd of never known about them if not for CyanogenMod
Apollo music player
http://lifehacker.com/5962086/apollo-brings-cyanogenmods-official-music-player-to-all-android-devices [lifehacker.com]

DSPManger equalizer, inadvertently to control my speaker docking station
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795233 [xda-developers.com]

and MX Player, a very configurable, play any movie player, it's what I use instead of a TV in the bedroom

All the above have a non pay version or free for use.

Though another mod I found Hacker Keyboard, very nice, a full keyboard and the keys where you expect them
(If the program your using accepts them)
http://lifehacker.com/5804952/the-hackers-keyboard-gives-android-devices-real-keyboard-functionality [lifehacker.com]

Not sure how they work on a phone, but a tablet they work very well.

Re:Apps (1)

GweeDo (127172) | about 10 months ago | (#45412317)

CyanogenMod comes with a full file manager by default. It is simply called "File Manager" in your app drawer.

Re:Apps (1)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about 10 months ago | (#45413627)

CyanogenMod comes with a full file manager by default. It is simply called "File Manager" in your app drawer.

Thanks! I don't have CM, but I've grabbed FileManager.apk and it works great.

Re:Apps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45412491)

Just coming from my experience with a couple of the CM-based OS's:

  1. Base CM: Very much like stock android, a few usability apps or in some cases features baked into the OS (i.e. root, no need for an app)
  2. CM-based: My current daily driver is Beanstalk on my Samsung Infuse (SGH-1997, otherwise one of the Galaxy phones). That one has all the base stuff, and a few good apps like Apollo for music, an Equalizer app (with headphone vs speaker vs HDMI settings), and a few other bells and whistles.
  3. Some other things vary based on which you look at, Launchers (CM uses Trebuchet), which specific kernel, user-facing configuration (launcher settings, screen/system behaviors, animation speeds, etc...), and so on.

So, all in all, it depends. If you want to look for yourself, go to CyanogenMod's website, or to xda-developers.org. I can't pull up either from work, so your google-fu may come in handy.

Just ran it and.. (4, Informative)

rikkards (98006) | about 10 months ago | (#45411043)

It's pretty seamless. The only way they could make it better is if they put in a revert function or at least a backup so you get your old data back

Re:Just ran it and.. (2)

aNonnyMouseCowered (2693969) | about 10 months ago | (#45411145)

"It's pretty seamless. The only way they could make it better is if they put in a revert function or at least a backup so you get your old data back"

There's another BIG way they can make it better, create an installer that runs on other operating systems say, like GNU/Linux or OSX? Or better yet an installer that doesn't require another computer to do its thing. Smartphone are becoming as powerful as the computers of the Y2K, so why not an installer that can be run off the target device? It the lockdown crap is the problem, then I guess option 1 (installers for other OSs) would be Numero 1 on my list. If they write their installer in Java/Python or some other portable language, then it shouldn't be too hard to port that over.

Re:Just ran it and.. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45412113)

Just a guess, but for many phones (even nexus) it's impossible to do some of the steps needed to install cyanogen without issuing commands to the phone over ADB. While if your phone is already rooted and (bootloader) unlocked you can install cyanogen without needing a computer, if you aren't in that state already, the installer tool on the PC will take care of that for you.

Then have the user install ADB first (1)

tepples (727027) | about 10 months ago | (#45416041)

for many phones (even nexus) it's impossible to do some of the steps needed to install cyanogen without issuing commands to the phone over ADB.

Then the cross-platform installer should require installation of Android SDK, which includes Android Debug Bridge, and pipe the necessary commands through the ADB executable.

Re:Just ran it and.. (1)

exomondo (1725132) | about 10 months ago | (#45418321)

There's another BIG way they can make it better, create an installer that runs on other operating systems say, like GNU/Linux or OSX?

I'm sure that will come at some point but it's a relatively tiny portion of the market to support initially. Alternatively anybody could have written this and nothing stops anybody from writing a GNU/Linux or OSX version.

So does Samsung pay them anything... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45411073)

... for making Samsung phones actually usable?
They really should.

New apps don't work to upgrade phones on CM (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#45455081)

roundly disappointed with the new windows and android apps that theoretically make it all happen effortlessly.

simple fraud.

downloaded everything, properly and in sequence.

you'd think that a CM equipped phone would be especially easy to wipe and upgrade.

PC doesn't see phone ready, and phone doesn't see PC ready.

Although basic recognition between phone and PC already in the bag, announced by OS.

KRAP.

waste of my time.

CM'ed Note still battery-smoking piece of junk I couldn't sell to anyone in good conscience.

I had offers on the ship for more than it's worth but couldn't sell it in good conscience with expected sub 2-hour battery life.

SHITE PIECE.

smarter to simply get a new phone.

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