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Meet the 'Assassination Market' Creator Who's Crowdfunding Murder With Bitcoins

samzenpus posted about a year ago | from the dark-places dept.

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schwit1 writes "As Silk Road emerged from the 'dark-web', other sites have appeared offering services that are frowned upon by most. As Forbes reports, perhaps the most-disturbing is 'The Assassination Market' run by a pseudonymous Kuwabatake Sanjuro. The site, remarkably, is a crowdfunding service that lets anyone anonymously contribute bitcoins towards a bounty on the head of any government official–a kind of Kickstarter for political assassinations. As Forbes reports, NSA Director Alexander and President Obama have a BTC40 bounty (~$24,000) but the highest bounty — perhaps not entirely surprising — is BTC 124.14 (~$75,000) for none other than Ben Bernanke."

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Assassination Politics (4, Informative)

ryanr (30917) | about a year ago | (#45458139)

Assassination Politics [outpost-of-freedom.com] I think he went to jail for it.

Re:Assassination Politics (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458213)

Not for it directly, for it is clear first-amendment content. The feds got him for other things (questionable or not).

Re:Assassination Politics (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458463)

Everyone's guilty of something these days - if they want to deal with you all they have to do is look closely enough.

Re:Assassination Politics (5, Funny)

ifiwereasculptor (1870574) | about a year ago | (#45458355)

As well he should. That website's layout is downright criminal.

Re:Assassination Politics (2)

Intrepid imaginaut (1970940) | about a year ago | (#45458433)

Yeah this is fairly old news. As far as I'm aware he's been in and out of prison for most of his life since proposing the idea in a fit of extreme libertarianism. Did someone actually go through with it?

Re:Assassination Politics (2)

PPH (736903) | about a year ago | (#45458475)

Credit Default Swaps.

You can include practically any terms you want in a swap. I'm sure the lawyers could write up a clause covering 'unplanned change in head of state' to cover an assassination. In fact, it would not surprise me if paper traded by major banks are covered for a sudden change in the Fed's governing body.

<Tinfoil_hat_mode>I would not be surprised if the mortgage backed security market collapse was triggered in part by an 'unfavorable change in the Administration' clause in some contracts. </Tinfoil_hat_mode>

what about the ads in soldier of fortune (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458497)

where you can find people willing to do mercenary work

people who use it will get jack rubyed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458543)

and the guy who did that will die soon after that

Re:Assassination Politics (1)

boorack (1345877) | about a year ago | (#45458763)

This will be pretty good excuse for government thugs to shut down Bitcoin and possibly jail anyone having some in his/her posession. I'm not sure US government thugs did actually conceive such crap but I'm perfectly sure they wouldn't be happier hearing this news.

Re:Assassination Politics (1)

ButchDeLoria (2772751) | about a year ago | (#45458791)

Good luck, after the Congressional hearing today, they're going to embrace it.

The problem is collecting the bounty (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458141)

Odds are you're going to be dead immediately after, so what good does the money do you?

Re:The problem is collecting the bounty (2)

couchslug (175151) | about a year ago | (#45458199)

You may want another recipient to collect the bounty while you do what you otherwise do not mind doing, or may even be inclined to do. The world is a diverse place.

Re:The problem is collecting the bounty (4, Informative)

Shakrai (717556) | about a year ago | (#45458215)

The last few chumps who took shots at US Presidents all lived to talk about it. The Secret Service is a law enforcement organization, not an execution squad, they're under the same obligation as any other LEO to apprehend a suspect alive when possible. Of course, Bitcoin probably doesn't go very far at the Terre Haute prison commissary.....

Re:The problem is collecting the bounty (1)

Shakrai (717556) | about a year ago | (#45458239)

You can find anything on the internet [bop.gov] , should have waited a bit longer for my post. ;)

Re:The problem is collecting the bounty (1)

ifiwereasculptor (1870574) | about a year ago | (#45458415)

Is that what I think it is? They aren't simply content on using slave labor anymore in prisons, they're also turning the slavers into consumers for double the profits?

Re:The problem is collecting the bounty (1)

cheater512 (783349) | about a year ago | (#45458275)

Oh I disagree. I would imagine the population there would be familiar with the Silk Road.

Re:The problem is collecting the bounty (1, Informative)

Jayfar (630313) | about a year ago | (#45458461)

Of course, Bitcoin probably doesn't go very far at the Terre Haute prison commissary.....

Oh I disagree. I would imagine the population there would be familiar with the Silk Road.

I think that's the Hershey Highway you're thinking of.

Re:The problem is collecting the bounty (1)

schwit1 (797399) | about a year ago | (#45458321)

... That you know of.

Re:The problem is collecting the bounty (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458521)

Once the first bullet flies LEO's could care less about "apprehending the suspect", they will shoot first and ask questions later. About the only way the guy is coming out alive is if there is a witness and the guy with the gun, tosses it to the side, and lies facedown with his arms wide waiting for them. Otherwise he's toast. See modern SWAT tactics. Even then he's just about as likely to get a bullet to the back of the head.

absolutely the dumbest idea ever (4, Insightful)

swschrad (312009) | about a year ago | (#45458147)

guaranteed to get the whole government in on breaking the Bitcoin chain, as well as getting your ass parked in a Federal prison for a whole lot of years. it's so idiotic that it has to be a government operation to suck in idiots who are looking for jail time.

Re:absolutely the dumbest idea ever (4, Interesting)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about a year ago | (#45458267)

No, it's guaranteed to divest some foolish people from spare bitcoins.

Re:absolutely the dumbest idea ever (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458601)

Agreed. this is so monumentally stupid that I think its gotta be either a government sting or a false flag operation to turn public sentiment against bitcoin and scare lawmakers into shutting bitcoin down.

Re:absolutely the dumbest idea ever (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458795)

More likely a scam. Any hitman with the skills to kill a sitting president isn't going to leave his fucking house for $25K. You'd have to be a complete retard to believe that this is ever going to work. The only one making money on this is the operator, who is going to take the coins and run.

this post is sarcasm (3, Informative)

gman003 (1693318) | about a year ago | (#45458155)

What, no direct link to the site?

How is this disturbing? (5, Insightful)

will_die (586523) | about a year ago | (#45458159)

It is pretty straight forward how it will work.
1) People send in money.
2) After a while the site closes down.
3) Person that put up the site earns a nice profit.

The only disturbing part is the guy did it so early, someone with real planning would of waited for the US Presidential election and then really brought in the money.

Re:How is this disturbing? (1)

mythosaz (572040) | about a year ago | (#45458209)

This. A million times this.

I wish I had a bitcoin scam to stand up while they're still $hundreds a coin....

Why do people send cash to god-knows-where and just pray it ever goes where it's supposed to...

Re:How is this disturbing? (4, Insightful)

rogueippacket (1977626) | about a year ago | (#45458245)

The same reason the vast majority of people have problems with money - their spending decisions are largely driven by emotion and lack discipline.

Re:How is this disturbing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458227)

Or it's simply a honeypot.

Re:How is this disturbing? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458279)

Or some bizarre ultra-libertarian performance art.

Re:How is this disturbing? (2)

lgw (121541) | about a year ago | (#45458805)

Is there a difference between a really good scam and "bizarre ultra-libertarian performance art"? I think they meet in the middle.

Re:How is this disturbing? (1)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#45458369)

It is pretty straight forward how it will work.

1) People send in money.

2) After a while the site closes down.

3) Person that put up the site earns a nice profit.

Strike number 3, an replace it with:

3) Three letter agency that put up the site knocks on your door.

Seriously, how could you not consider this might be a honeypot for kooks?

Re:How is this disturbing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458771)

So

1)Set up honeypot website

2)People donate to "assassinate person X fund"

3)Person X gets assassinated

4)Uhoh. You've just been implicated in enticement to the assassination of person X. Enjoy your time in jail.

(Where person X is someone who will not be named due to jack-boot allergies but you know who I mean).

Re:How is this disturbing? (1)

icebike (68054) | about a year ago | (#45458793)

Except that the assassination doesn't actually have to take place.
Merely offering money to such is illegal. Even if no money has actually changed hands yet.

seems wrong... (3, Interesting)

schlachter (862210) | about a year ago | (#45458511)

it seems wrong that such a site with a list of people to execute could exist. it brings the good old lynch mob in to the digital era. fun times. gov officials should not have to operate in fear of assassination.

yet. it is interesting that this is exactly what the us gov is doing with its enemies, building hit lists, ranking them, and executing.

Re:seems wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458599)

Government officials should live in fear of their lives.
They've shown that they can't be trusted in other circumstances.
That said, this does look like an amazing scam.
How are you ever going to prove you killed they person and get your money?
And how are you going to get your money back when no one kills the person?

Re:seems wrong... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458695)

There should be threat of job loss, not life, unless it comes to war crimes.

Re:How is this disturbing? (1)

Experiment 626 (698257) | about a year ago | (#45458649)

It is pretty straight forward how it will work.
1) People send in money.
2) After a while the site closes down.
3) Person that put up the site earns a nice profit.

Yes, tick off a community of users whose defining trait is that like to hire hit men, that sounds like a wonderful business plan.

Re:How is this disturbing? (2)

Hentes (2461350) | about a year ago | (#45458751)

But where would they hire the hitmen after the site has closed?

Finally (2)

theshowmecanuck (703852) | about a year ago | (#45458725)

We found the missing part of the '???' belonging to this meme.

I'm so sorry. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458161)

But for those dollar figures I can't even be bothered to do a recon.

The Jackal.

Re:I'm so sorry. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458253)

Perhaps they should crowd-fund it to get higher bounties.

Re:I'm so sorry. (5, Funny)

Rob the Bold (788862) | about a year ago | (#45458329)

Perhaps they should crowd-fund it to get higher bounties.

Ya, I saw something on Slashdot [slashdot.org] about that.

How do you claim the prize? (1)

tomkost (944194) | about a year ago | (#45458167)

How exactly do you prove your the one who shot or poisoned the target? Seems difficult to collect not to mention the legalities and morals of the act. Sounds more like an FBI honeypot.

Re:How do you claim the prize? (1)

rogueippacket (1977626) | about a year ago | (#45458299)

They sort of explain it in the article - the theory is that being the assassin, the act itself has been pre-meditated and you have chosen the date of the murder. You then make a donation to the deadpool, including a hashed version of your date. Once the act is done, you send an email (ideally anonymous) to the site operator with that date inside. The operator performs a hash check on it, and if it matches the data included with your donation, you are most likely the killer.
Or, you're just really good at guessing when people are going to die.

Re:How do you claim the prize? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458371)

Or you exhaustively checked dates against the deadpool.

Re:How do you claim the prize? (5, Insightful)

jcochran (309950) | about a year ago | (#45458657)

Seems to me that the creator of that site is shortsighted in how he or she confirms who the assassin is. Namely, that the assassin has to be able to specify the date of death prior to the death. That task if fairly easy for a large number of ways of committing murder. But not always possible. For instance.

1. Poison
2. Opportunity - Assassin may be in a position where he or she has multiple chances of contact with the target, but is unable to predict exactly when the contact would be suitable for the actual assassination.

Frankly, the motive of the site creator is rather foolish and childish. Given this paragraph in the original article:

Sanjuro's grisly ambitions go beyond raising the funds to bankroll a few political killings. He believes that if Assassination Market can persist and gain enough users, it will eventually enable the assassinations of enough politicians that no one would dare to hold office. He says he intends Assassination Market to destroy "all governments, everywhere."

it seems to me that Sanjuro is advocating world wide anarchy.

I personally, don't like most governments, however total anarchy is worse than the government we currently have. Frankly, we need something to hold in check the various sociopathic assholes that from time to time attack other people. We need public services such as fire, police, sanitation, sewers, water, etc. There's a lot of infrastructure that frankly needs a government. And even well balanced, social people from time to time will disagree with each other. And said disagreements will from time to time get quite acrimonious. Hence the courts.

Frankly, Sanjuro is either a nutcase, or a honeypot. In either case, it would be best to avoid him.

Re:How do you claim the prize? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458365)

How exactly do you prove your the one who shot or poisoned the target? Seems difficult to collect not to mention the legalities and morals of the act. Sounds more like an FBI honeypot.

Yeah. Typical FBI honey pot; Incite peoples to commit crime, provide them the tool and the opportunity then make the arrest to prove your relevance to the public.

Im on the list (3, Insightful)

EMG at MU (1194965) | about a year ago | (#45458171)

I feel like I have been put on the list just for reading this. But then I realize I'm already on the list for everything else I read on the internet.

I would be expecting the NSA to be cracking Bitcoin / TOR as we speak to prosecute people for material support of terrorism.

Re:Im on the list (2)

LordLucless (582312) | about a year ago | (#45458441)

I would be expecting the NSA to be cracking Bitcoin / TOR as we speak to prosecute people for material support of terrorism.

Cracking bitcoin wouldn't help the feds track down anyone. All it would let them do is print free money, which they can pretty much do anyway. Bitcoin isn't anonymous; it's pseudonymous. The NSA can, with no effort at all, find out your Bitcoin pseudonym. Then they just need to associate your that with your real identity, which they can do via their traditional means of spying on everything that happens.

Re:Im on the list (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458539)

Since they basically have a database of the entire internet, it's not much more than a database query away.

Re:Im on the list (2)

Lost Penguin (636359) | about a year ago | (#45458633)

"I would be expecting the NSA to be cracking Bitcoin"

I would expect them to be mining with some large ass cluster to fund new black projects.

Jail time (1)

jklovanc (1603149) | about a year ago | (#45458187)

I bet that the owner of the site could be charged with "conspiracy to commit murder".

Re:Jail time (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458241)

I'm fairly sure they don't charge agents running a honeypot...

Re:Jail time (3, Insightful)

AGMW (594303) | about a year ago | (#45458273)

Who was the US politician who openly called for Assange to be assassinated? They've not collected him from Washington and shipped him to Guantanamo yet I see!

Re:Jail time (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458303)

Who was the US politician who openly called for Assange to be assassinated?

I don't know. You made it up.

They've not collected him from Washington and shipped him to Guantanamo yet I see!

Hard to imprison someone who doesn't exist.

Re:Jail time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458535)

I think AGMW may be confusing Washington Time columnist with an elected position. [washingtontimes.com]

While AGME was incorrect, I do not believe Jeffrey T. Kuhner has been arrested. Although, it's worth noting that he is not offering money for said assination, but saying the US goverenment should order it as a matter of policy.

Re:Jail time (1)

jklovanc (1603149) | about a year ago | (#45458411)

That might be considered incitement but when monetary rewards come into it then it crosses the line into conspiracy.I doubt any politician or reporter ever said "I will pay someone $X to kill Assange."

Re:Jail time (1)

evilviper (135110) | about a year ago | (#45458505)

Who was the US politician who openly called for Assange to be assassinated?

"University of Calgary Professor" "Tom Flanagan, a former aide to the Canadian prime minister, has called for Assange's assassination"

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40467957/ns/us_news-wikileaks_in_security/t/assange-lawyer-condemns-calls-assassination-wikileaks-founder/ [nbcnews.com]

Canada is part of the US by now, isn't it? Did the kids sew another star on the flag yet?

Of course he was "obviously talking tongue-in-cheek" and got quoted out-of-context by idiotic reporters.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/flanagan-regrets-wikileaks-assassination-remark-1.877548 [www.cbc.ca]

Re:Jail time (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458631)

Being a US politician, he is presumed "incompetent until proven effective", so he just gets a free pass. Obviously no one listens to our politicians or takes their promises seriously. I'm sure Assange is perfectly safe.

Why Bernanke on top? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458211)

...because guys at Wall Street and generally in business have plenty of spare bitcoins, no conscience, and think it's "funny"

So what if... (3, Interesting)

Yaztromo (655250) | about a year ago | (#45458219)

...someone starts a bounty on the site for "Kuwabatake Sanjuro"?

Yaz

Re:So what if... (3, Funny)

Shakrai (717556) | about a year ago | (#45458255)

Can it be any Government official? I always knew I'd find a way to get back at that small town meter maid.....

Re:So what if... (2)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about a year ago | (#45458659)

I always knew I'd find a way to get back at that small town meter maid.....

Oh, just pay the meters for other people and they'll completely flip out [freekeene.com] .

Re:So what if... (1)

rsborg (111459) | about a year ago | (#45458391)

...someone starts a bounty on the site for "Kuwabatake Sanjuro"?

Yaz

He's not a government official. Neat self-exclusion. Also by not offering hits against corporate officers (way more interesting), he prevents a large amount of extrajudicial consequence from hitting him (governments are ostensibly bound by laws, corporations can operate in low-law zones). Perhaps, he figures, focus on proving an MVP [1], and then expand to more profitable markets once he has a reasonable amount of success?

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_product [wikipedia.org]

Re:So what if... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458423)

Since when would a libertard be against something a corporation does? They practically fall over themselves to suck the dicks of Corporate America.

ok remus (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458621)

as opposed to you, who just practically falls over himself to suck dicks period!

ZING

Re:ok remus (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458757)

You were an excellent teacher.

Re:So what if... (1)

dpilot (134227) | about a year ago | (#45458735)

"The Assassination Bureau", starring Diana Rigg (Mrs. Peel) amoung others. The IMDB summary has the spoiler, but it's basically about the parent post, set right before WWI.

Letters of marque (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458265)

Remember kids, if the government does it it's OK.

Re:Letters of marque (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458297)

Well, yes, they are authorized to do so by the Constitution.

You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship (4, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | about a year ago | (#45458283)

Political violence doesn't work to actually implement social change. It only plays into the hands of authoritarians who rule by fear, in this case fear of you. Kill Bernanke, and they have a great propaganda tool against your cause. And they can replace Bernanke with no trouble. And you haven't actually done anything to harm the people whose interests Bernanke is protecting.

There is an excellent essay on the topic, dating from the 1970s, titled You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship [libcom.org] . From the preamble:

When left-wing terrorism is being carried out in a consistent way in society, it gives the state extra leverage in using political repression against individuals and the left in general.

When by their own actions terrorists serve such ends, they are contributing to the destruction of politics and the closing of various options for the spreading of ideas before they have been fully utilised.

Of course, the state will readily use various repressive methods if it meets any substantial resistance or if it has to handle a social crisis which is creating resistance. Terrorism and guerrilla-ism cannot be attacked just because they produce repression. Even more important is the fact that there is nothing to have made it worthwhile. In the end the guerrillas get wiped out and there is nothing left but repression (and a law and order mentality amongst the people).

Re:You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship (2)

Animats (122034) | about a year ago | (#45458363)

Political violence doesn't work to actually implement social change.

Shooting JFK was effective in changing policy.

Re:You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458405)

Not according to the French (Revolution)!

Re:You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship (1)

mythosaz (572040) | about a year ago | (#45458537)

Political violence doesn't work to actually implement social change. It only plays into the hands of authoritarians who rule by fear, in this case fear of you. Kill Bernanke, and they have a great propaganda tool against your cause. And they can replace Bernanke with no trouble. And you haven't actually done anything to harm the people whose interests Bernanke is protecting.

I like to think I shouldn't have to say I am not advocating the assassination of Bernanke, but you never know around here...

That said, an assassination of Bernanke might actually raise consciousness of the whole, "Wait, huh, the Federal Reserve is WHAT?!?" issue. It'd dominate news cycles. The assassin's manifesto explaining how "evil" the whole thing is might get poured over on news channels that aren't Fox. Who knows.

Re:You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship (1)

Yaur (1069446) | about a year ago | (#45458711)

Not likely. McVeigh's manifesto got 0 attention and Kaczynski's only got published because it was demanded at a point where he had already killed and promised to stop if it was published.

Re:You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship (1, Flamebait)

Archangel Michael (180766) | about a year ago | (#45458569)

Political violence doesn't work to actually implement social change.

Education by Liberals equals stupidity. American Revolution (to name one). Civil War (to name another). If there is such a thing as a "good war", then the ones fought for liberty are the ones worth fighting, lest you end up a slave to a tyrant simply because you believe the lie "Resistance is Futile".

Unless of course you are looking for an individual (or small group) who pulls off a coup of some sort. In which case, you'd be equally wrong. The Assassination of MLK Jr, while it (helped) affected change, it wasn't the change the assassin was aiming for. It did however, help galvanize the movement and add people to the cause.

Re:You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship (1)

Hatta (162192) | about a year ago | (#45458703)

Unless of course you are looking for an individual (or small group) who pulls off a coup of some sort.

Yes, that is the type we're talking about here. By the time you have a popular uprising, the social relationship is already destroyed.

In which case, you'd be equally wrong. The Assassination of MLK Jr, while it (helped) affected change, it wasn't the change the assassin was aiming for.

And that's exactly the effect the authors of the essay are warning against. Small scale political violence is counter-productive.

Re:You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship (2)

Ryanrule (1657199) | about a year ago | (#45458597)

What if you blow up the authoritarians? Say, the cock brothers?

Re:You Can't Blow up a Social Relationship (1)

wile_e_wonka (934864) | about a year ago | (#45458679)

And they can replace Bernanke with no trouble.

Like, they could replace Bernanke with this person [wikipedia.org] , who has already been selected to replace Bernanke... (though not yet confirmed by the Senate)

It seems like a bad time to have Bernanke at the top of the list. What's the bounty on the new lady?

this is no disturbance in the force (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458293)

I'm curious why this market, created to fulfill a legitimate need, is being called "disturbing". Doesn't the US have a history of kneecapping (foreign) terrorists and (foreign) dictators while leaving alone home-grown genocidal monsters [wikipedia.org] ?

I had exactly the same idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458301)

I'm now happy to see someone is taking the matter at hands.

When i see the US are allowed to commit remote murder in almost any part of the world and on the other hand retarded coercive "leaders" are a threat to our society as a whole (think David Cameron) i think it's absolutely normal to see people organizing themselves and financing a campaign to get said person killed.
The people of the internet have more legitimacy than any government.

At least there should be public crowdsourced lists of dangerous people for everyone to see and sometimes take action when possible in order to purge the world.

Bernanke and Bitcoin (1)

Lorens (597774) | about a year ago | (#45458319)

Searching for Ben Bernanke brings up as first news "BERNANKE: Bitcoin 'May Hold Long-Term Promise'
Business Insider - 4 hours ago
Ben Bernanke sort of endorses Bitcoin."

Do you think he knew of the bounty?

Re:Bernanke and Bitcoin (1)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about a year ago | (#45458435)

Bernanke endorse US bonds. Do you think he endorses paying meth whores for $10 backstreet hummers?

Ben? Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458327)

It sure is easy to glean the political leanings of the largest contributors.

Hint: Starts with "liber" and ends with "naive sockpuppet of the far-right"

Re:Ben? Really? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458381)

Yep, just another Randian Libertardian.

Anyone Else Remember the Pentagon Futures Market? (2)

StickyWidget (741415) | about a year ago | (#45458341)

I just remember the Pentagon wanting to set up something like this because they tend to be such great predictors of the future.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/3072985/ [nbcnews.com]

~Sticky

From what I'm seeing about Bitcoin (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458349)

Crypto viruses, this, ransoms, ....

Bitcoin is doomed.

Regardless of whose doing the harm (i.e. false flag), the fact of the matter is that Bitcoin's days are numbered.

It's way too conducive to illegal and harmful behavior.

Re:From what I'm seeing about Bitcoin (0)

jones_supa (887896) | about a year ago | (#45458625)

Pretty much the same thoughts. At first I thought Bitcoin was a cool liberal money system and I supported it. But now I'm starting to think that maybe it's actually good that there is some level of real trackability for monetary transactions. Sadly Bitcoin provides a tool for criminals to send "black money" easier, which in turn helps to make the world a shittier place.

Oh right... Ben Bernanke, of COURSE. (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458383)

... only the guy who near single-handedly saved the world economy from total and utter destruction.

(YES, he did have a bit to do with the bubble in the first place... but that was mostly the previous free-market, deregulationist Fed chairman's fault.)

Of course, this assassination nonsense is a scam and a horrific idea. But sweet jesus, these anti-Fed demogogues are such self-denialist losers. Sure, let's go back to the gold standard so we can have a Panic every 15 years. Let's relinquish total control over our money supply and our economy for absolutely no reason. Let's just hand over our nation's economic advantage as the world's go-to currency... great idea... ...say the same idiots who insisted QE would lead to global hyperinflation (wrong), that the biggest problem our government has is the national debt (wrong), that nations need to tighten their belts during a recession (wrong), that there was no gold bubble (wrong), and that nothing bad would ever happen if we default... How many times do these people have to be proven wrong, over and over?

But I guess it makes sense that the ultra-paranoid sorts of people who would be attracted to the idea of bitcoin are the same ones who would hold some kind of insane vendetta against the Fed, totally missing the mark on who REALLY to blame for the near collapse and meltdown of western civilization.

The name Sanjuro Kuwabatake (5, Informative)

seibai (1805884) | about a year ago | (#45458399)

For people who don't get the joke, "kuwabatake" means "mulberry farm" in Japanese (where you would raise silk worms).

"Sanjuro" is a standard alias for a 30 year old guy [wikipedia.org] (it literally means "30 year old guy", more or less).

Re:The name Sanjuro Kuwabatake (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458525)

The name of Toshiro Mifune's character in the movie Yojimbo. He pretty much comes up with the name on the spot when he was asked.

Re:The name Sanjuro Kuwabatake (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458553)

And for those who *really* don't get the joke, it's Toshiro Mifune's character in Yojimo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yojimbo_%28film%29

PsyOps? (1)

IonOtter (629215) | about a year ago | (#45458437)

I wonder if this isn't an operation to sour the public on Bitcoin? I mean, not that it needs much to sour the folks here on Slashdot, but the common Joe/Jane on the street might need some Emmanuel Goldsteins to scream at for two minutes.

And with all the revelations of Snowden and Wikileaks, calling someone a "tinfoil hatter" has lost most of it's sting.

It's Ben Shalom Bernanke (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458467)

People, have some respect to full names and stop using short versions.

Re:It's Ben Shalom Bernanke (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458555)

So says Anonymous Dickhead Coward

hmm (1)

buddyglass (925859) | about a year ago | (#45458591)

I'll laugh if the entire site is a honeypot designed to identify people willing to crowdfund the assassination of world leaders.

Up until about five minutes ago . . . (0)

mmell (832646) | about a year ago | (#45458627)

My knee-jerk reaction was "hell no - don't let any government meddle with bitcoin - it's a chance to create a world economy without nationalistic or patriotic encumbrances."

Screw that - I suppose this illustrates why such an economy is inherently subject to exactly the sort of abuses we have governments in place to prevent. Up with Electronic Banking! Death to Bitcoin!

I'm going to get flamed here; too bad. If Bitcoin can't regulate itself sufficiently to prevent abuses, than Bitcoin has to go.

There was a paper about this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a year ago | (#45458699)

Interesting that the approach used for confirmations was presented at a cryptography conference just over two years ago:

http://fc12.ifca.ai/pre-proceedings/paper_69.pdf

No paywall, direct link to PDF.

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