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Nintendo Announces Gamecube Launch Numbers

timothy posted more than 13 years ago | from the wait-in-line-then-onto-ebay dept.

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cbirdsong64 writes: "Planet Gamecube has a story about the Gamecube launch quantities for the U.S. and Japan. Apparently, the Japanese launch will consist of 500,000 Gamecubes, all purple. Nearly 900,000 Gamecubes will be shipped this year in Japan. The North American launch will have 1.1 million (!!) units availiable, with no colors announced. The Big N plans to ship a total of four million Gamecubes worldwide by March 2002. They're doing a whole lot better than Sony did last Christmas." Maybe when the much-anticipated Gamecube ships, I can pick up a discounted PS2 and GT3 :)

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Re:Slightly premature... (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2178548)

I agree, plus there's the tacit assumption that Sony's "shortages" weren't part of their plan. It's my belief that they were.

Re:Market Saturation? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2178549)

This is what I consider game consoles.. and I'm not saying this as a flame or a troll or anything. But to me, they seem more aimed at the kiddies (and non computer users)... I'm a serious gamer on the PC platform.. I don't really like console games all that much, specifically because PC games can have more intuitive interfaces (such as mouselook.. can you imagine playing any FPS with a playstation controller? that has to be insanity! as if I wasn't bad enough at it already), more mind challenging games such as turn based strategiesm, sims, and even real-time strategies. (Though you can get those for some consoles.. but still, I'd want a mouse)

Anyway, I think they're aimed more at kids and non-computer types because they're less expensive than PC's so parents are more likely to buy them for their kids, since the kids generally can't afford that sort of thing, and for non-computer types, since it's easy setup, and all you do is stick the disc in and go. Instant play.

Anyway, I'm not really saying anything I haven't said before, so I'll shut up now.

This is stupid, not funny (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2178550)

If anyone moderates this up past +2, I will kill myself. And my family.

Re:This is stupid, not funny (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2178551)

Hm. +3, Funny.

What'll it be... the knife, the rope, or the poison?
Well, you could always do it Matrix-style off a skyscraper...

Re:Market Saturation? (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2178552)

If that's not market saturation, what is?

Market saturation is the exact opposite - when supply outstrips demand. Duh.

Re:Hey Timothy! (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2178553)

The Xbox is not even a contender. Sure, MS will probably pour zillions into marketing it in North America, but just take a look at the less than impressive title line-up for a second. The flagship product is another Abe game for christs sake, and the PC shooter Halo, which would have been impressive if it was released 2 years ago.

But the real killer is that the Xbox has a mindshare of about 0 among Japanese developers (you know, the software houses that sell more copies during the opening day that any MS game ever will). The Xbox also can't seem to determine if it should be a scaled down PC or a console (Harddisk? I can't wait to PATCH my games ;).

What An Ugly Design! (1)

Julius X (14690) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178573)

Wow that thing is ugly. Now--it may be small, but that may work against it. Using 3.5" CDs will definitely work against it. When the XBox and Playststion 2 are using DVDs for storage, Nintendo is using CDs with 1/10th of the size?? Are they insane?

Even if they were 3.5" DVDs (which I've never heard of), they would still only be able to hold less than 1/2 of what an Xbox or PS2 can on a single disc. So much for nice large textures on the games....

Not to mention the fact that the thing is gonna be in *cough* Pokemon colors. No thanks. Once it and the Xbox come out--I think I'm gonna buy that PS2 Gran Turismo 3 bundle for $150 :-)

-Julius X

Re:Hate to grumble.... (1)

cruelworld (21187) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178583)

*cough cough* PAL

bloody europeans...had to be different.

Re:Getting one of these... (1)

Ralph Wiggam (22354) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178584)

You apparently don't put the high monetary value on "envy of your friends" that I do.

-B

Re:So... (1)

htmlboy (31265) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178593)

How long before there is a version of Linux for the Gamecube? Anyone have any hardware specs?

NetBSD will probably beat linux, as always. It's written expressly for portability, so there are fewer quirks to work out moving everything (drivers and supporting programs, not just the kernel) to a new platform.

chris

Re:Seems like a sweet deal especially since... (1)

virid (34014) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178595)

Actually, Sony has already announced that they'll be droping the price. Unfortunately it was only like $30 bucks...

GameCube (2)

virid (34014) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178596)

Has anyone heard about the Panasonic GameCube? Electronic Gaming Monthly (EGM) had an article that mentioned a special edition GameCube to be released by Panasonic that will play DVDs for an estimated cost of ($299). Tasty.

Re:Colorless GameCubes? (1)

lostguy (35444) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178598)

You're thinking light, not pigment. Since you're seeing the result of reflected color (as opposed to spectral color) with the GameCube, different rules apply.

Re:Market Saturation? (1)

Manax (41161) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178599)

There's a reason preorders sell out so fast - there is a huge demand. If that's not market saturation, what is?

Actually, that ISN'T market saturation. Market saturation would be if the product sits on the shelves and doesn't sell... then the market is saturated, but as long as they are still selling out with unsatisfied demand, it certainly isn't saturated (at a given price, with a given product, etc, etc).

Whoa whoa hold the phone... (2)

brianvan (42539) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178600)

Not to be blasphemous, and I'm sure Gamecube will have a couple of smash hit games (Dreamcast had a few...)

First of all, graphics mean a lot in today's day and age, but it's really a game's total design - playability, difficulty, sound, graphics, plot, etc. - that really has to shine. Good graphics mean crap, because I still play some pretty good games that have very shitty graphics (Marble Madness anyone?)

Second, I wouldn't say it has much better games before it even comes out. We don't know if most of the games will be duds or not. Of course, comparing it with N64 and Playstation, perhaps there will be some good games that are only outmatched by the most popular PS2 titles, or perhaps MS has a real ace up their sleeve and we'll be talking about X-Box games as the console games to have this Christmas.

But enough negative talk. Right now, there's never been a better time to be a video game enthusiast. Now if only that damn GT3 steering wheel didn't cost me a month of food...

So now anyone can initiate a Cube Launch? (2)

nakaduct (43954) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178602)

The article didn't say this, but along with the launch codes, they released the rest of the contents of the Gamecube Football [fas.org] , including the Gamecube 'playbook', to be used by Nintendo's CEO in case of a decision to deploy the 'Cube and a secure SATCOM radio handset.

In releasing the launch codes, Nintendo has given mankind a powerful and terrifying weapon in the war against boredom. Let us pray these launch numbers are never needed.

Re:Slightly premature... (1)

conform (55925) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178603)

Please elaborate. It's my understanding that not shipping enough units for the Christmas rush has had a hugely nagative impact on Sony's developer relations -- because there weren't as many units sold as expected, fewer games were sold, causing developers and publishers to fall short on earnings for the quarter (compounding this was the overspending on advertising and whatnot).

I believe this has been a factor in some developers expanding their efforts on other consoles. These factors make me pretty suspicious of a claim that Sony was holding back on consoles.

Re:Market Saturation? (1)

Bilestoad (60385) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178604)

No there isn't. Get ready for some aggressive discounting, big advertising campaigns and maybe even one failing within the first year a la Dreamcast. I couldn't pick which one that will be, but I don't think I will give up Gran Turismo 3 any time soon.

Re:Slightly premature... (1)

Bilestoad (60385) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178605)

Sales figures [gamersutopia.com] released by Sony. Just what is the total market for games consoles? Not everyone will get to buy two or even three systems, a lot of kids will get the choice of only one.

Or if you like to DIY:
http://www.gamersutopia.com/news/playstation2/ps 2_ biiiiig.htm

Re:So... (1)

AndrewHowe (60826) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178606)

There are some here. [gamersutopia.com]
It's essentially a PowerPC. I believe Linux runs on PowerPC.

Re:Slightly premature... (1)

AndrewHowe (60826) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178607)

My point, in case you missed it, was that last Christmas Sony sold some PS2s, however as of today, Nintendo has sold precisely zero. Hence, the statement "They're doing a whole lot better than Sony did last Christmas." is bullshit.
Now some people subscribe to the idea that Sony limited production on purpose, and others believe that it was due to problems with production. Personally I'm inclined to believe Sony, but there you go.

Re:Slightly premature... (1)

AndrewHowe (60826) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178608)

Well at least the PS2 is "perspective correct"... Unlike you... "Tyranically abuses it's (sic) customers"... Heh.
I didn't admit to being a moron. It doesn't matter if they're a big corporation or not. I didn't say i would believe anything they ever said. What I did say is right up there for everyone to see.
OK, why do I believe them? Last Christmas you could not buy a PS2 unless you were already on a waiting list. The demand was there. They could easily have sold more. They didn't sell more because they couldn't make them fast enough. How would they win by not meeting existing demand? They could still have kept the illusion of limited supply, because sales were only through preorder, and as a customer you had no way of knowing how many consoles were available... You just stuck your name down, and you were lucky or you weren't. When a kid wants a PS2 for Christmas, it's no good letting them have one for next March. Sony must have known this. What could they possibly have gained by artificially limiting supply?

Re:Slightly premature... (1)

AndrewHowe (60826) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178609)

OK, I would agree with the statement "Nintendo are doing better now than Sony were at this time last year." But it is all just talk. Anything could happen between now and Christmas.

Slightly premature... (5)

AndrewHowe (60826) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178611)

"They're doing a whole lot better than Sony did last Christmas."
Er, well, they haven't sold any yet!
I seem to remember Sony saying they were going to have loads available too.
Wouldn't it be wise to wait until Christmas before making a comment like that?

Getting one of these... (2)

Moonshadow (84117) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178622)

I wasn't too excited about it, but after seeing the info on Super Smash Brothers Melee, I am reserving one ASAP. No dorm's complete without one :)

I haven't been this excited about a gaming machine in a long time.

And of course, the discounted prices on other consoles won't hurt ;)

Re:Colours... (2)

Moonshadow (84117) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178623)

It's not just purple, it's atomic purple!

Seriously, though, you think the purple color is 'pansy-ish'? I dunno - I think it looks kinda cool. Something different from the standard fare beige/black routine.

But then, I'm not going to be buying it as a decorational item. I'll be buying it whether it matches my carpet or not cause I wanna play games on it!

Re:Market Saturation? (2)

Moonshadow (84117) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178624)

Yes, I would say the market saturation is there. Every time a new console or highly anticipated game is released, people go rabid trying to get it. There's a reason preorders sell out so fast - there is a huge demand. If that's not market saturation, what is?

People want the latest and greatest. Consoles are no exception.

Personally, I'm going to get a Cube for sure, probably a PS2, and possibly an X-Box. Just having one doesn't saturate me enough :)

Re:Market Saturation? (2)

Moonshadow (84117) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178625)

No, no...

Legend of Zelda

Metriod

SSB

THOSE are what's gonna sell the Cube. Kids can play Pokemon on their Gameboy color. There's not really much power needed for that type of game. Sure, you could get rid of the yellow rat's pointy edges, but do they care? No, they just wanna catch him. I don't think that the Pokemon franchise is based on graphics or gameplay - it's based on marketing.

Samus kicking Ridley's posterior - now that's a different matter. Link getting medieval on some moblin - now THAT's entertainment.

And if you do feel the need to blow up small electric rodents, there's always SSB.

Actual Launch Figures (3)

magicsquid (85985) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178628)

Not all 1.1 million units are launch units. 800,000 are for the launch, while the other 300K are for the rest of the month. You can see those details at http://cube.ign.com/news/37001.html. It's nice to see that Nintendo learned from Sony's mistake last year.

It's hard to get excited about the cube. (1)

dave-fu (86011) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178629)

Nintendo's just been on a steady downhill slope ever since the NES. As the eminently readable Game Over [amazon.com] and plenty of other "insider" publications can tell you, Nintendo used their position of market dominance (pull your own analogues) to bully game developers into subservience and didn't exactly win any friends in the process. They haven't forgotten, Nintendo's coming in against a powerhouse in the PS2 (are they still kicking themselves for screwing over Sony when Sony was just a SNES hardware licensee?) and a promising, overhyped XBox. Couple this with battling not only its own Game Boy Advance but the bad press it's gotten for ill-designed screen, and all I can do is mostly think anemic 3rd party support, and that's a recipe for disaster.
Granted, I own a NES, Game Boy Color and N64, but in the long run, I've got a feeling I'll be saying the same thing about the Game Cube that I do about the N64: pretty, but also a pretty small selection.
Easy does it!

Re:What An Ugly Design! (2)

randombit (87792) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178631)

Even if they were 3.5" DVDs (which I've never heard of), they would still only be able to hold less than 1/2 of what an Xbox or PS2 can on a single disc. So much for nice large textures on the games....

Actually:

a) It's proprietary to Nintendo and Matsushita (probably based on DVD technology), and can hold about 1.5 Gigs.

b) Sometime next spring, a version will be released which can play DVDs.

And anyway... who the hell cares? I mean, do you buy PC games based on how much space they take up on your disk? Or how fun they are the play?

I really don't understand people who keep comparing these 3 consoles on the basis of fill rate/clock speed/memory speed/whatever. How does this detirmine:

a) Which one will have the best games. Obviously a subjective question, but fortunately I already know _my_ answer.

b) Which ones will look the nicest. X-Box has like... what, twice the "speed" of Gamecube? Then why was everyone so impressed with Gamecube at E3? This is one problem throwing hardware at is not going to help.

Not to mention the fact that the thing is gonna be in *cough* Pokemon colors.

You know... the Gamecube has always been shown in multiple colors (black, purple (which I happen to like), silver, and a couple of others). You can get N64 in four or five different colors and I imagine Nintendo will keep doing that (hey, it worked for the iMac).

I don't see how purple is related to Pokemon, BTW. Could you please clarify?

NobodyMan (1)

nobodyman (90587) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178632)

I had figured Nintendo for dead, given the Gamecube's seemingly poor specs. However, w/ 1.1m at launch and a $200 pricepoint, they might just pull it off.

Unless Sony releases ps2 linux [scea.com] in th states, I might just jump ship.

Re:Market Saturation? (2)

artemis67 (93453) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178633)

One factor to consider is that someone may have trouble shipping their console in adequate quantities for Christmas... probably not the PS2, but possibly the X-Box, or even the Game Cube.

Even though the Dreamcast flopped, they essentially did the right thing by flooding the market with consoles last Christmas, precisely because they knew the PS2 was in short supply. More than a few parents looking for a PS2 decided to get their kids "the next best thing," I'm sure.

Also, I believe the competition has gotten so intense in the console biz that any company that doesn't sell through at least a million units in the holiday season is probably toast, anyway. Nintendo is quite confident in their in-house game franchises, and they still seem to have a very strong relationship with LucasArts. Also take into account that, if you have pre-teens in your home, Nintendo is really the only console maker that is targeting that market.

Hold off on the cheering... (3)

ChristianBaekkelund (99069) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178644)

These numbers are still many many months away from being real. A LOT can happen in that time, as Sony can surely attest to. So before everyone starts being all happy about the 1.1mil supposed GameCubes to be released next March, everyone should think back to some of Sony's predictions nearly a year out about the launch #'s and see that a LOT can change.

I'll be far more interested to hear the launch #'s in say, January 2002. :)

Re:Market Saturation? (1)

Groovy Aardvark (100433) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178645)

With software developers becoming more and more polygamous (ex: Squaresoft will develop games for the PS2, Xbox and maybe the Gamecube), yes, there is a market for more than one or two consoles, as there is a market for many PC manufacturers.

Consumers will choose their console based on criteria other than software (looks, brand name, controllers, extra features, etc.) as they do for PC's.

OT: PS2 price cut? (1)

the Man in Black (102634) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178646)

I hear that around the time the XBox and Gamecube start shipping, Sony will be cutting the price of the PS2. I'd held off buying one because of this....anyone have any concrete facts?

Re:best console out there (1)

Glonk (103787) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178647)

Sorry, but I'll bite:

What's interesting is that as much as the popular press likes to talk about the X-Box being more powerful, most observers at E3 pegged GameCube as having better graphics (not to mention games, where there's no comparison).
'scuse me? When was this? From the screenshots and videos I'm seeing on the web being posted, the GameCube looks like it's somewhere between PS2 and XBox in terms of graphics. As for games: I think I'm pretty sick of Mario brothers now. And Pokemon. and WWF...

It's $100 cheaper, has much better games, it's a lot smaller, has a better controller -- what more do you want?
You've used both controllers? That's cool, how'd you do it?

That was a blatantly ignorant troll, how the hell did that get modded up so high? There is no way that comment was in any way 'Insightful'. No one knows which games are better, or which controller is better, how can you even try to judge them months before either is released?

Re:It all comes down ITGS (1)

Lussarn (105276) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178651)

Nintendo as a software house makes games that kids under 12 absolutly love.

And there are us fulltime workers who needs an hour of relaxation now and then but don't have the time to dig into a 150 hour RPG. Nintondos games are cool easy and fun.

Re:Hold off on the cheering... (2)

egomaniac (105476) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178652)

Next March? Try this November. 11-05-2001 in North America. September in Japan, I believe.

With the launch that close, you'd better believe that Nintendo should have a pretty damned good idea whether they'll hit their numbers or not.

--- egomaniac

best console out there (5)

egomaniac (105476) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178653)

What's interesting is that as much as the popular press likes to talk about the X-Box being more powerful, most observers at E3 pegged GameCube as having better graphics (not to mention games, where there's no comparison).

It's $100 cheaper, has much better games, it's a lot smaller, has a better controller -- what more do you want?

Gamecube all the way...

--- egomaniac

Re:!(this is definitely the one to get) (1)

Ominous Coward (106252) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178655)

Conker's Bad Fur Day? Not everything that is on N64 is family entertainment. Just the majority.
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Re:gamecube pics (1)

AsbestosRush (111196) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178656)

Anyone else feel that the cube seems a bit oversized? I remember one "geeks in space" that discussed the fact that so many console units are so kludgy in their physical design... don't fit in the entertainment centre well, controller cords, etc. This seems to be more of the same.
The description of "Cube" seems to almost fit, tho.

GameCube idea stolen from ReBoot show? (1)

yerricde (125198) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178658)

"Warning: incoming game." [google.com]

The computer animated television show ReBoot had purple "game cubes" [inwap.com] that landed into the Mainframe. The show's animation looked similar to the GCN demos. Is this where Nintendo got its idea?

GCN _is_ the new Sega console (1)

yerricde (125198) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178659)

Personally i am looking forward to the new SEGA console much better.

Sega is developing for Game Boy Advance and PlayStation 2 and is expected to sign up as a developer on the Nintendo GameCube.

The Sega Genesis's 68000 CPU was made by Motorola, who would later work with IBM on the PowerPC design. Macintosh and Amiga computers started out on 68K and ended up on PPC. GameCube has an IBM PowerPC Gekko processor. See the connection?

My biggest problem with nintendo is its policy against roms [nintendo.com] : "The only purpose of Nintendo video game emulators are to play illegal copied games from the Internet." Bullshit. Ever heard of open-source roms [parodius.com] such as GNOME vs. KDE Bingo [8m.com] ?

Colors are known (in Japan atleast) (2)

GweeDo (127172) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178661)

They have announced that the GC will be released in only purple to start with in Japan (check http://cube.ign.com) and then will release more colors later. Most people assume they will release colors that match the Gameboy Advance...that is very important since I want my GC to match my GBA when they are hooked together!

multiplayer madness (4)

kisrael (134664) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178663)

Right now, Nintendo seems to be the only company that really gets how important multiplayer is.

Dreamcast started to get the right idea, with 4 ports, but I think they had more of a PSX vibe going on, with as many or more 2 player than 4 player games around. I think X-box might end up in a similar fashion even with 4 ports, since its PC heritage doesn't have a good multiplayer tradition either. And PS2, where you need a multitap for that? Feh. Few gamemakers are anxious to support anything but out of the box hardware.

Yes, online console gaming has a big future, but blasting 2 or 3 buddies to smithereens while talking trash, all on the couch will beat out getting your ass handed to you by faceless, lamely-nicknamed punks who spend way too many hours at this stuff.
--

Colours... (1)

spaanoft (153535) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178668)

I just sure hope there's more colours than just purple for the NA launch. Like, I know the look shouldn't matter if the games are good, but I still don't want to look like some kind of pansy gamer buying a purple system...


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Re:What An Ugly Design! (1)

TotallyUseless (157895) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178669)

they use 'Gamecube' disks, based on Matsushita's optical disk tech. they hold 1.5 gigs and are proprietary

Market Saturation? (5)

Rackemup (160230) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178672)

Is there realy enough of a market to support all these different gaming consoles? Sony, M$, Nintendo... all shipping millions of units. I'm predicting that it'll turn into one big marketing push to get as much crap on the market as fast as possible to beat the competition and to hell with the quality of the actual games.

The last console I bought was a SNES, and since my computer can do everything the new consoles can do and a whole freakin lot more I doubt that I'll ever buy another. But as long as people have money to burn I guess it'll never stop.

Re:Hate to grumble.... (1)

jayhawk88 (160512) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178673)

Europe? Wasn't that some terrible 80's rock band?

JK. It does seem odd that Europe is traditionally an afterthought as far as console gaming is concerned. Probably has more to do with a lack of big name developers (when compared to the US and Japan anyway) than anything else.

Nintendo's on a roll (1)

cornflux (168139) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178675)

I'm so impressed with the GameBoy Advance handheld that I'm actually considering getting the GameCube when it comes out.

With the success of the GBA, and its sales pace, Nintendo is smart to ship in big numbers.

As an aside, I can't wait to see what all the different developers and games can do with a GBA as a GC controller.

I'm actually excited about console games again. First time since the original NES. :)

Hey Timothy! (1)

cOdEgUru (181536) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178683)

Maybe when the much-anticipated Gamecube ships, I can pick up a discounted PS2 and GT3 :)

Hey timothy, heard of something called Xbox which is the most-anticipated (not just "much") piece of hardware ? I dont think, if you admit that you have plans to buy an Xbox, that you would appear a lesser mortal in front of fellow slashdotters.

Sorry if this appears like a flame. But I just had to give it to this bigot.

This is the reason why (1)

Mike the Mac Geek (182790) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178684)

I have yet to buy a PS2.

I have a DVD player, I want a GAME MACHINE. Not an entertainment center. And for pure gaming, you can't beat Nintendo. Plus with Sega developing for it, it fits right in with my DC.

And at 199$, I won't have to sell a kidney.

Colors (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178685)

IGN [ign.com] has a story much like this one that states that the Cube will be shipped only in the purple color they like so much.

Despite the color, I'm still skippin work the day it comes out to juice my brain for a while.

Re:Colors (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178686)

I suppose I should include that the same story states that other colors will be released with time.

Yeah... I should really think about it when I post.

Maybe ugly... probably. (1)

steveo777 (183629) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178687)

The discs are still the same as DVD's, they're just smaller. They hold 1.5GB of information while PS2 and X-Box's media hold the standered 4.7GB. Something to consider is copyrighting. It's much easier to protect the ROMS because you really don't have to worry about them being copied onto readily-available media.

Yeah... I don't agree with the size of the discs and storage, but I'm still getting one of these babies. X-box and PS2 are all fine and dandy, but Microsoft's games don't impress me, their name is quite tarnished already, and I don't like them. PS2, well, I'll wait untill it's good and cheap so I can play the "classics."

...are you kidding? (2)

SubtleNuance (184325) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178688)

with no colors

And the colour of this box has exactly *what* bearing on its function?

When did we descend into this ridiculous consumer hell?

Re:best console out there (1)

newbiescum (190145) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178689)

DVD capabilities? Not that I think consoles make great DVD players as the PS2 has shown, but without it, I think many people will be wondering why the GameCube doesn't have them while X-Box (albeit at the cost of a ~$30 US controller) and PS2 have them included. I know that there is going to be a GameCube that will have DVD capabilities later, but I wonder if it will cost Nintendo some sales.

Re:Market Saturation? (2)

MeNeXT (200840) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178696)

Nintendo's market is kids (pre teens) Sony and M$ are after the older crowd with blood and guts. Most families with young children prefer Nintendo to a computer, its easier for the kids to manage and the can't mess it up by deleting any important files.

Re:Market Saturation? (1)

Sodakar (205398) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178700)

Two titles will keep Nintendo afloat:
- Mario
- Pokemon

...after that, indeed, who knows? Still, many of us thought Nintendo was dead after Enix's "Dragon Quest" and Square's "Final Fantasy" series left it... ...but it lives on...

Re:Market Saturation? (1)

friday2k (205692) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178701)

Well, I do not know for the other /.ers, but I will simply get both, the X-Box and the Cube. They are not that expensive (yeah, I have grown up and I have an income now) and I will then just pick the game I want, no matter what the platform is (PC, X-Box, Cube). This is about 199-299$, not about an entertainment center with loads of stuff in it. What's all the excitement about?

Re:best console out there (5)

cmstremi (206046) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178702)

"...what more do you want?"

Cupholder.

Re:This is the reason why (1)

DarkEdgeX (212110) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178703)

Don't forget that Square has also hinted time and again that they'd like to develop on Nintendo's new console-- they're the 3rd party developer that really gave Sony the push they needed to beat Nintendo during the last console war; if they head back to the Big N's fold (even if it's just cross-platform, eg: Final Fantasy on GameCube and PS2) it may be enough to put Sony in their place.

(Can ya tell I'm no big Sony fan.. I liked the PSX and still own one, but the PS2 is overpriced...)

Re:Slightly premature... (2)

DarkEdgeX (212110) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178707)

Not really, simply due to Nintendo's track record lately. They announced that they'd ship X millions of Gameboy Advance systems here and in the United States, and lo and behold, they did (to sold out crowds, 90% of the time). I'm sure things could change between now and then, but IMHO I don't think Nintendo is going to risk the same kind of backlash Sony got over the PS2 fiasco.. Kind of like seeing someone get hit at an intersection-- you tend to start looking both ways before crossing.

Re:Slightly premature... (2)

DarkEdgeX (212110) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178708)

Again, back to track records and "history not repeating itself"-- Nintendo witnessed the backlash Sony got over the PS2 shortages, Nintendo hasn't (in my memory) ever disappointed on release day by coming up short, and this announcement just further solidifies the idea that geee, they're planning for a big holiday showdown with Sony.

So yes, they are doing a whole lot better than Sony did last year, SO FAR. Keep in mind, Sony announced shortages (not huge stockpiles) long before the PS2 launched. Contrast this to Nintendo, who three months to launch, announces that they plan to have PLENTY of systems to go around. To recap: Sony announced a shortage - Nintendo announced a surplus (they'll still sell out, but the long line issue shouldn't exist as it did for PS2 lovers last Winter).

Re:best console out there (1)

rattid (214610) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178710)

You sound like a kid I use to argue with in 5th grade over snes vs genesis.

Re:Colorless GameCubes? (1)

ehiris (214677) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178711)

Because you're not living in the matrix.

Re:So... (1)

dayve (217713) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178714)

How would you get Linux or BSD onto a 8cm disc that must be something like a DVD? It says it holds 1.5GB. Is that a standard size or something Nintendo made up to try to slow down game piracy?

gamecube pics (4)

drDugan (219551) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178716)

In case anyone else is as clueless as I was -- and want to see what this thing looks like.... see here [homestead.com] and a larger version [homestead.com] .

peace

this is definitely the one to get (2)

gergi (220700) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178717)

i'm considering the ps2 but i know for sure i'm getting a gamecube. nintendo has always been about quality while the ps was about quantity. it looks like the ps2 is working toward quality but the nintendo is definitely going to have several must-have games at launch.

and a warning to xbox fans, you're throwing away your money. it's going to flop.

See a picture of it (1)

Daath (225404) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178721)

Here [homestead.com] .

The Die Is Cast (1)

Jucius Maximus (229128) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178727)

Now we shall have to see M$'s strategy in relation to this. Will they try to flood the market by producing even MORE X-Boxes? I think that that would be unlikely...it's about the games. And about which console's box looks cooler. I'm not kidding.

If Nintendo manages to pull off some sort of really distinctive packaging, I think that it WILL help them pull ahead in the console market duing the Christmas marketing-circuses. The kids will be oohing and aahing it and pointing it out to mom and dad.

And when it comes to games, who has the better known name? Nintendo, of course. Microsoft just doesn't have it*. And they won't have it* anytime soon.

*By 'it' I mean hipness and the powerful gaming image.

It all comes down ITGS (2)

Fatal0E (230910) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178730)

It's The Games Stupid! (derivative of KISS)

Right now I own a PS2 and the only reason I don't regret buying it is cuz of the promise of MGS2. The demo rocks btw

Nintendo as a software house makes games that kids under 12 absolutly love. They aren't always the most complicated but they are easy to play which is very important. It won't be specs that win the battle it'll be the fun-factor of the games they release and I think Nintendo still knows how to do that.

Nintendo Vs. Sony (1)

clinko (232501) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178736)

I'd have to say that I love the playstation. But it costs too much. If the Nintendo is going to cost as much as the PS2, i'm sure as hell not getting it either.

BTW, gt3 rules

Seems like a sweet deal especially since... (1)

gwizah (236406) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178737)

Sony will most likely have to drop the price of the PS2 to $199 to evencompete with the performance/price of the GameCube. a $199 DVD player/game system and a $199 Nextgen Console...hmmm Christmas is starting to look greaaaat!

Colorless GameCubes? (2)

Cutriss (262920) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178756)

The North American launch will have 1.1 million (!!) units availiable, with no colors announced.

Wow! They're gonna release invisible GameCubes? Cool! Now my mom won't find out that I stole the one Johnny got for Christmas!

Re:Colorless GameCubes? (1)

stebalo (316987) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178763)

Actually, technically speaking, an absence of colors (or light) is known as black.

Hate to grumble.... (1)

Marcus Brody (320463) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178765)

...but as ever there is no mention of the european launch. Despite the fact europe is a very lucrative market & will undoubtadly produce some fantastic games for this platform, once again we have to wait untill last....

Re:...are you kidding? (1)

looney9 (413470) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178768)


On its function? Of course nothing....

It isn't always "function" (bells and whistles) that influence the customer buying decision. I did Sony PC tech support for quite some time, and I can't even count as high as the number of times that I heard that the only reason they bought the Sony PC as opposed to something else was because "The wife/girlfriend thought the purple PC was the prettiest one." It didn't matter that it cost more. It didn't matter what bells and whistles it had....it was the prettiest.

Welcome to the female driven economy! Aye! :)

>And the colour of this box has exactly *what* >bearing on its function?

>When did we descend into this ridiculous >consumer hell?

Another article (2)

lmd (413644) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178769)

They are slashdotted. Here [ign.com] is another article about their plans.

Re:Slightly premature... (2)

bartle (447377) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178771)

From what I remember, Sony shipped an initial 500,000 units to the US and followed them up with an additional 100,000 per week. Those numbers are similiar with Nintendo's. A lot of people wanted a PS2 when they came out, Nintendo will have the same problems if the same people now decide they want a Gamecube to add to their collection.

Just a little correction: (1)

Phoenix823 (448446) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178772)

FYI: It's not 1.1 million at launch, but 1.1 million for the entire month of November. http://cube.ign.com/news/37001.html

Re:GameCube (3)

Phoenix823 (448446) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178773)

Yea, it's pretty cool looking. Kinda like a techno-looking GameCube. Check it out here. http://cube.ign.com/news/36765.html

Overflow (1)

halftrack (454203) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178781)

Shipping is one thing, selling another thing. Try stuffing 3-billions into a 32-bit integer.

Re:best console out there (1)

halftrack (454203) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178782)

has a better controller

The X-Box is even shipping without controllers, they come on top of the price. (Last time I checked - long time ago)

Re:Market Saturation? (1)

SuperGolden (456505) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178784)

>The last console I bought was a SNES, and since >my computer can do everything the new consoles >can do and a whole freakin lot more Exactly! I find game consoles are nice because you only use them to play games! You use your computer to do all kinds of things related to work, whereas a game console is simply used for games... Don't get me wrong, I certainly like computer games, but with consoles you don't need to worry about having the most up to date hardware or enough hard drive space or worrying about it crash - it's just fun... -Super

Re:Colours... (1)

Kira-Baka (463765) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178791)

Heh, yeah... If there is only purple I'll paint mine. :P

Re:Getting one of these... (1)

Smedrick (466973) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178793)

Mmm...Smash Brothers. That's the main reason I'm buying one (or maybe two...I need to replace the N64 in the bathroom), too.

I wouldn't count on a price drop, though. Sony seems to be pretty determined to keep the PS2 at $300 for a while...at least until after Christmas. Which is a shame, because I'm going to have to buy one eventually for Metal Gear Solid 2.

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Re:Colorless GameCubes? (1)

Smedrick (466973) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178794)


Actually, the absence of color is white. Black is the complete saturation of all colors. But the absense of light is indeed black.


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Re:Market Saturation? (1)

Smedrick (466973) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178795)

I'm predicting that it'll turn into one big marketing push to get as much crap on the market as fast as possible to beat the competition...

Nintendo doesn't operate like that...they wouldn't sacrifice quality for quantity. Who knows what Sony and MS will do, though.

...and since my computer can do everything the new consoles can do and a whole freakin lot more I doubt that I'll ever buy another.

Apples and Oranges. The console offers an entirely different experience than the PC. Not everything is about pushing polygons. Gameplay is still a major factor. Both the PC and the console have their merits...they just offer different types of gameplay.

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Re:Getting one of these... (1)

Smedrick (466973) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178796)

Actually, I HAVE to buy the system in order to play the game I WANT. I never said I needed the system forthe system...it's a matter of playing a desired game. It's not about power to everyone. Some of us are game connoisseurs, if you will.


And the whole "envy of your friends" thing doesn't hurt either. ;)

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Re:It all comes down ITGS (1)

Smedrick (466973) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178797)

Nintendo as a software house makes games that kids under 12 absolutly love.

I'd like to know what parent would let their 12-year-old play Conker's Bad Fur Day. Or, what 12-year-old would have the patience to play Majora's Mask. (And you're missing out if you've never played Mario Golf while intoxicated.)

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POKECUBE (1)

Carnivore24 (467239) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178798)

Hopefully they will release some games like Castlevania for this system. I give it about 3 months before it goes back to a full Pokemon kiddie system like the N64 ended up being.

Re:Hate to grumble.... (1)

gcox (467610) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178799)

"...but as ever there is no mention of the european launch. Despite the fact europe is a very lucrative market & will undoubtadly produce some fantastic games for this platform, once again we have to wait untill last...."

Be fair now. Napoleon didn't even make it to Japan or the US. WWI was launched in Europe, and did much better there than Asia. And even though WWII was launched first in Manchuria, the big unveiling was in Europe.

Really, you guy's can't get everything first!

Re:Getting one of these... (1)

Dmitry Skylarov (470197) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178802)

I understand your point, but why do you find it necessary to insult at people who do like the latest and the greatest? You're in the minority -- therefore, abnormal -- so what right do you have to diss us, you fucking freak? I don't know any honest geek who would be happy with a machine room whose peak of performance is a 333MHz Pentium II. (It's not even RISC, ya FUCKIN' YABBO!) If you can't afford anything better, fine -- but don't try to tell us into thinking that most people are happy with old, pissed-on, obselete, wolverine-fucked shite.

Yes, I still have fun playing my NES. But that doesn't mean I'd willingly give up my PS2.

Freak.

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Re:Colorless GameCubes? (1)

Dmitry Skylarov (470197) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178803)

Are you gay? I mean, not that there's any problem with that. Some of my best friends eat cock.

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Re:So... (1)

Dmitry Skylarov (470197) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178804)

Well, gee, that would be useful. Never mind the fact that ths Gamecube's hardware sucks for anything but graphics, yes, I'm sure it make a great web server or workstation.

God, you're gay.

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Barney (1)

agusus (470745) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178809)

"Apparently, the Japanese launch will consist of 500,000 Gamecubes, all purple."

Also, according to unofficial reports, the Gamecube will ship with a new, sophisticated game featuring Barney the Purple Dinosaur.

Re:Market Saturation? (1)

4n0nym0u$ C0w4rd (471100) | more than 13 years ago | (#2178810)

There is a big enough market because a large percentage of gamers will buy at least 2 probably all 3 systems, thats why the companies stagger their releases, if all three were released at the same time then one would flop because gamers would buy one first and wait to buy the other.

If the last system you bought was an SNES I fell sorry for you (unless your not a gamer or you don't use emulators), you missed Goldeneye, Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Perfect Dark, Blast corps, Metal Gear Solid, FF7, FF8, FF9, Chrono Cross, driver....etc.(yest some where released for PC but many were not). If you are a gamer I would reccomend you buy an N64 or PS1 now that they are cheap and experience the great games you haven't played yet, by the time your done PS2 and GameCube will be really cheap and you can buy them (of course you'll always be one system behind...but a few hundred $ ahead). Or an even better alternitive, get an emulator and play whatever you want on your computer.

Remember just because a computer can do evrything a game system can doesn't mean the games you want will be ported.
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