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Epson Tries to One-up Google Glass with Moverio-Goggles (Video)

timothy posted about 5 months ago | from the it's-stereo-so-you-can-see-everything-twice dept.

Technology 65

In the world of head-worn displays, Google Glass seems to lately get most of the praise as well as most of the dirty looks, though it's far from alone. At this year's DroidCon in London, I talked with Epson Europe product manager Marc-Antoine Godfroid about a very different kind of head-worn display: the Moverio BT-100. Epson's display is running a Google operating system, but it isn't competing with Glass, at least not directly. The hardware in this case is a relatively high-definition stereo display meant for immersion (whether that means information overlays or watching recorded video) hooked to an external control unit running Android, rather than the sparer, information-dashboard, all-in-one approach of Glass. One other big difference: Epson's stereo, full-color headset is cheaper than Glass, and available now. Hit the link below to see what it looks like.

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ummm... doesn't that mean it's competing with rift (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45588833)

we don't say oculus rift is competing with glass, why would we say this is?

Wearers beware ! (0)

Taco Cowboy (5327) | about 5 months ago | (#45589079)

Wearing stuffs like this that distract the wearers from the reality around them is dangerous.

Not only they could walk into walls, they also could be distracted enough (like this Epson thingy which actually plays movie) to walk into the middle of a very busy thoroughfare !

As if we haven't had enough of drivers distracted by their phones, now we are equipping the pedestrians with glasses which actually blind them from what is going on around them.

Re:Wearers beware ! (1)

FatdogHaiku (978357) | about 5 months ago | (#45589459)

Wearing stuffs like this that distract the wearers from the reality around them is dangerous.

Not only they could walk into walls, they also could be distracted enough (like this Epson thingy which actually plays movie) to walk into the middle of a very busy thoroughfare !

As if we haven't had enough of drivers distracted by their phones, now we are equipping the pedestrians with glasses which actually blind them from what is going on around them.

Well, evolutionarily speaking we have kind of been coasting for awhile now... we are getting bigger and dumber (it would seem) so a thinning of the herd may be useful. Think of it as adding chlorine and a filter to the gene pool... give people the option to massively screw up and maybe win a Darwin Award. [darwinawards.com]

Re:Wearers beware ! (1)

Em Adespoton (792954) | about 5 months ago | (#45589839)

Wearing stuffs like this that distract the wearers from the reality around them is dangerous.

Not only they could walk into walls, they also could be distracted enough (like this Epson thingy which actually plays movie) to walk into the middle of a very busy thoroughfare !

As if we haven't had enough of drivers distracted by their phones, now we are equipping the pedestrians with glasses which actually blind them from what is going on around them.

Well, evolutionarily speaking we have kind of been coasting for awhile now... we are getting bigger and dumber (it would seem) so a thinning of the herd may be useful. Think of it as adding chlorine and a filter to the gene pool... give people the option to massively screw up and maybe win a Darwin Award. [darwinawards.com]

The problem is that such people generally don't suffer from their own mistakes; if they screw up while operating a half ton killing machine, it's not usually them that get the daisies. So what we're really saying is that people who live in areas where this kind of device is acceptable in public need to get culled.

Re:Wearers beware ! (1)

FatdogHaiku (978357) | about 4 months ago | (#45591901)

So, you missed the whole "now we are equipping the pedestrians with glasses which actually blind them from what is going on around them" that I was replying to?
Most states have distracted driving laws already in place to cover ANY distraction. [ghsa.org]

Re:Wearers beware ! (1)

Em Adespoton (792954) | about 4 months ago | (#45596847)

So, you missed the whole "now we are equipping the pedestrians with glasses which actually blind them from what is going on around them" that I was replying to?
  Most states have distracted driving laws already in place to cover ANY distraction. [ghsa.org]

No; distracted pedestrians (whether texting on their phone or wearing blinkers) also tend to cause more havoc than they reap, as people tend to prefer to crash into non-living objects when given the option.

Re:Wearers beware ! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45594181)

Well, evolutionarily speaking we have kind of been coasting for awhile now... we are getting bigger and dumber (it would seem) so a thinning of the herd may be useful.

You really think that humans aren't evolving? The only thing that has changed is what traits are advantageous/disadvantageous. As long as humans are reproducing, evolution is occurring.

Re:Wearers beware ! (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about 4 months ago | (#45591785)

yeah let's ban earphones because blind people might use them while walking.

come on, you're not supposed to be walking around traffic with these on..

Or don't.... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45588893)

A video... Fuck you.

I might have looked. But i'll pass on the video spam.

Re:Or don't.... (1)

dyingtolive (1393037) | about 5 months ago | (#45588991)

Don't worry, you're not missing much. Geordi's visor from Star Trek was less goofy looking than these.

Picture, well, picture you never getting laid again. Now imagine it being for want of a black rectangle you put over you eyes. That's what these look like.

Re:Or don't.... (1)

snooo53 (663796) | about 5 months ago | (#45589833)

Since this is a Slashdot video, what would be really nice is if we could have some screen captures interspersed throughout the transcript.

Re: Or don't.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45590455)

I guess its a good thing the videos don't seem to appear on my phone....

Epson? (1, Interesting)

Gothmolly (148874) | about 5 months ago | (#45588909)

The maker of mediocre printers and scanners? Suddenly has a competitive product and infrastructure to Google Glass?

Re:Epson? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45589005)

Yes, all the professionals must be really retarded for using such "mediocre" printers...oh,wait...

Re:Epson? (1)

OzPeter (195038) | about 5 months ago | (#45589205)

The maker of mediocre printers and scanners? Suddenly has a competitive product and infrastructure to Google Glass?

They're repurposing their old dot matrix printer technology - it brings new meaning to stabbing your eyes with hot pins.

Re:Epson? (1)

g0bshiTe (596213) | about 5 months ago | (#45589383)

The down shot is when the battery expires it'll likely be cheaper to purchase a completely new one, similar to their printer line.

Re:Epson? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45589469)

The maker of mediocre printers and scanners? Suddenly has a competitive product and infrastructure to Google Glass?

They also make displays...like projectors.

Re:Epson? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45589795)

Epson makes some serious printers and scanners. If you don't know that you really shouldn't scoff. These aren't the kinds of things you're going to find around Staples.
 
But, yeah, it is kind of amazing that they've thrown their hats into the ring to see who can be the biggest dick bags with another implementation of smart glasses... It's akin to child molesters having a dick wagging contest.

Re:Epson? (1)

couchslug (175151) | about 4 months ago | (#45591449)

"Epson makes some serious printers and scanners"

Their consumer shit is horridly unreliable.

Re:Epson? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45594227)

Consumer versions of pretty much every printer brand are shit.

Re:Epson? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45589953)

Just wait until Q2 2014, OkiData is going to blow them all away with a tractor-feed model.

You'd think News-for-nerds would get it right. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45588913)

But no HTML5 video tag.

Re:You'd think News-for-nerds would get it right. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45589227)

That's slated for implementation after they figure out this newfangled unicode thingy.

Great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45588925)

Now I can look like Stevie Wonder while exercising with a bulky walled garden device.

I own these.. (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45589061)

They are not that great.
1. They are heavy. They feel light when holding them in your hand. One your face they are quite heavy.
2. They don't work well with glasses. They can balance on glasses. Which works OK for a bit, but the weight distribution causes them to be uncomfortable.
3. They run Android 2.3.
4. Did I mention they were heavy?
5. WHAT IS ON YOUR FACE? AUGH

Long pre-ad on a short video (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45589085)

The IBM ad that could not be skipped was longer than the Epson ad. I gave up. No more video from timothy.

Fuck That Ad (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45589101)

The IBM cloud commercial before this video was almost 2 minutes long.

That's fucking ridiculous, 15-30 seconds for a well-made ad is okay-ish; but 2 goddamn minutes of blabbering about "the cloud" with no purpose is dumb as fuck.

Straight out of 2010 with Android 2.2!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45589125)

Woohoo! Pump up that 1.8% of current android devices with Froyo!

!= google glasses (3, Insightful)

krelvin (771644) | about 5 months ago | (#45589229)

Lets see, no camera, no motion sensors, HUGE and heavy... don't see where anyone would be comparing this to Google Glass.

Re:!= google glasses (1)

bob_super (3391281) | about 4 months ago | (#45590149)

How many media people compare random tech equipment to something remotely the same shape from apple?
Standard click-bait.

For once, Google is the one getting the free name-drop.

Re:!= google glasses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45590491)

I hatez teh Apple!!! HERP!!!!

== poor man's Sony HMZ-T2 (1)

Namarrgon (105036) | about 4 months ago | (#45590919)

This is nothing like Google Glass, or the Oculus Rift. But it is a direct competitor for Sony's HMZ head-mounted personal displays, only a little cheaper & crappier.

Re:!= google glasses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45606425)

Why would anyone compare this to Google Glass? You'll find the answer in the first line of the summary.

"news"?! (4, Informative)

nazsco (695026) | about 5 months ago | (#45589277)

i know the level here is low recently... but an old product is news? with an hour long commercial introduction before the no-infomation video?!?!

here is the fucking product page link http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/jsp/Moverio/Home.do [epson.com] (with no information such as file type, etc)

and here is the $500 amazon page selling it with fucking reviews http://www.amazon.com/Epson-V11H423020-Moverio-See-Through-Wearable/dp/B007ORN0LS [amazon.com]

Re:"news"?! (1)

Andy Dodd (701) | about 5 months ago | (#45589325)

Yeah... This product existed before Glass was even announced I'm fairly certain.

It's also stuck running Froyo...

I've seen this device in person (someone had one at the Big Android BBQ last year) and also now own Glass - it doesn't even remotely compare to Glass.

Re:"news"?! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45589941)

My favorite review was Bijoy, the Doctor of SCIENCE, yelling at me.

Re:"news"?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45590285)

Fucking reviews? I guess fucking is pretty good. I'd give it 5 stars. But what's Amazon selling that I would right a fucking review for?
 
Oh, wait....

Epson? Oh, I know the deal. (4, Funny)

140Mandak262Jamuna (970587) | about 5 months ago | (#45589305)

The Epson version of glass would come in with a teasingly low price, but it will include only a nominal "cartridge" and replacement cartridges would be priced somewhere north of 7999$. But you would get a c 10$ off coupon if you have Office Depot card.

Re:Epson? Oh, I know the deal. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45589571)

The Epson version of glass would come in with a teasingly low price, but it will include only a nominal "cartridge" and replacement cartridges would be priced somewhere north of 7999$. But you would get a c 10$ off coupon if you have Office Depot card.

Oh man, that comment made my day. Thank you kind sir

Oh. And HMD. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45589327)

HMDs are nothing new, this tech has been around the block for decades. If the resolution is nice enough and it's occulus compatible, it might not be a bad idea. Otherwise, it will be sunk just like all HMD tech.

Glass's unavailability was a mistake (1)

sethstorm (512897) | about 5 months ago | (#45589401)

Unlike Google, at least this product was made available to the general public on its release, not to a select few.

Then again, has Google ever not applied the Stanford snobbery of the invite system on a product?

Downloadable Video (1)

mfwitten (1906728) | about 5 months ago | (#45589451)

Please provide a link for downloading your video content, so that we don't have to suffer under this Flash player.

Add motion sensor (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45589549)

All they need is sort of position sensor, and it'll be better than Oculus or Google glasses for argumentation of the reality (assuming there is already 3D model of surrounding). Because it's transparent and has 3D in front of your eyes. I can definitely see the real life application for such a device. They can even mount it on helmet and add stereo cameras for real time 3d scanning in dynamic environment, and double the price. Imagine you repairing a car and "see" the internals, for example. You look at the part you are going to use and see all the parameters. It was recognized and parameters were fetched from the database. The place were it is supposed to be installed marked in 3D, so you know were to look even before opening the hood. My guess we'll see something like this soon.

!Google Glass competitor (1)

umafuckit (2980809) | about 5 months ago | (#45589697)

This is really a VR headset for watching movies, playing games, etc. It's not designed for the same applications Google Glass is designed for. If anything, this is a competitor to devices such as Oculus Rift, not Google Glass.

vs Glass (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 5 months ago | (#45589853)

While it is bulkier I think I'd prefer it to Google Glass.
I don't want to talk to myself like a crazy person to control it, nor do I want people kicking me out of places because they don't want to be filmed.

Android 2.2? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45590101)

When is it going to be upgraded to KitKat :P

Excellent (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45590147)

So now it can produce videos as it extracted from the rectum of the sociopathic narcissist who would wear this sort of thing.

Some transcript completions / corrections (1)

alexhs (877055) | about 4 months ago | (#45590625)

00:19 via the light guides
03:20 standard version ... s/doesn’t fit your/doesn't feature/
04:20 s/while variable displays and variable technology/while wearable displays and wearable technology now took up
05:02 at DroidCon (guessing)
06:43 view that you just want, so, a
s/we are the only company in the world/we are the only currently in the world/

960x540 (1)

JustNiz (692889) | about 4 months ago | (#45590953)

Yet another HMD with a really crappy resolution (960x540).

Why is 1920x1080 (per eye) still apparently too much to expect these days?

Re:960x540 (1)

Tom (822) | about 4 months ago | (#45591131)

Yet another HMD with a really crappy resolution (960x540).

This. As soon as I heard the resolution, my interest dropped to zero, then through the floor, left a hole somewhere in the basement and is probably on its way to the center of the earth right now.

Smartphone screens have more resolution than that these days. Wake me when they've doubled it.

Re:960x540 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45595939)

I know, if something like the CastAR can do 720p on a shoestring budget, I'd expect better from a major manufacturer.

oculus rift (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45592485)

I think the oculus rift will be far more successful than google glass or this epson thing.

Vague memories of trying the product (1)

mortal (2462) | about 4 months ago | (#45592837)

I tried the product on the NAB show 2012. It felt rather gimicky at the time and gave the sensation of staring down a blurry corridor. Even without having moving imagery on the device, it was very much a distraction and something that should be used only in safe surroundings (don't walk in traffic with them). It is a very different beast from Google Glass, but I can see some industrial applications where it would work and where Glass would not. It might also be good for watching movies while safely strapped into an airplane.

good news/bad news (1)

Cajun Hell (725246) | about 4 months ago | (#45594231)

The good news is that these will only cost $70.

The bad news is that the lenses are used up after 2 months, and cost $65 to replace.

Some improvements (1)

kilodelta (843627) | about 4 months ago | (#45596541)

They're huge for one. They need to figure out how to scale them down a bit. Second, those flimsy cords are going to be an issue over time. With limited regular use I can see them breaking requiring a service interval.
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