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Satanists Propose Monument At Oklahoma State Capitol Next To Ten Commandments

samzenpus posted about 8 months ago | from the what's-good-for-the-goose-is-good-for-the-satanic-gander dept.

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Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "The Tulsa World reports that in their zeal to tout their faith in the public square, conservatives in Oklahoma may have unwittingly opened the door to a wide range of religious groups, including satanists who are now seeking to put their own statue next to a Ten Commandments monument on the Statehouse steps. The Republican-controlled Legislature in Oklahoma authorized the privately funded Ten Commandments monument in 2009, and it was placed on the Capitol grounds last year despite criticism from legal experts who questioned its constitutionality. But the New York-based Satanic Temple saw an opportunity and notified the state's Capitol Preservation Commission that it wants to donate a monument too. 'We believe that all monuments should be in good taste and consistent with community standards,' Lucien Greaves wrote in letter to state officials. 'Our proposed monument, as an homage to the historic/literary Satan, will certainly abide by these guidelines.' Brady Henderson, legal director for ACLU Oklahoma, said if state officials allow one type of religious expression, they must allow alternative forms of expression, although he said a better solution might be to allow none at all on state property. 'We would prefer to see Oklahoma's government officials work to faithfully serve our communities and improve the lives of Oklahomans instead of erecting granite monuments to show us all how righteous they are,' says Henderson. 'But if the Ten Commandments, with its overtly Christian message, is allowed to stay at the Capitol, the Satanic Temple's proposed monument cannot be rejected because of its different religious viewpoint.'"

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Fireworks in 3...2...1... (5, Insightful)

Tablizer (95088) | about 8 months ago | (#45643587)

If you think atheists drive evangelical conservatives nuts, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (3, Insightful)

ackthpt (218170) | about 8 months ago | (#45643651)

If you think atheists drive evangelical conservatives nuts, you ain't seen nothing yet.

The bible-belters have been so into denying gays & lesbians their rights they've been completely overlooking these people.

It's time for some perspective, with a side of crow.

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45644051)

As soon as gays and lesbians can have children without scientific intervention, they can get married, until then, they can be lovers/friends/partners, but not married - that is reserved by definition for couples that can, under normal circumstances, conceive children for the survival of the human race. All religions have this built into their mantra some place or another.

States started with the marriage licenses to prevent brothers and sisters from marrying each other. Aside from that, nothing the state does gives a true marriage, they are called civil unions. Go and civil unionize yourselves to your heart's content, it will never be a marriage.

Now, as to satanists gettting to put up a monument. as soon as they can get a 3/4ths majority vote to allow it, be my guest.

Just because something the majority does offends a minority, doesn't mean the minority gets to offend the majority.

You do not have the right "Not to be offended"...

Them's the breaks.

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (5, Interesting)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 8 months ago | (#45643671)

If you think atheists drive evangelical conservatives nuts, you ain't seen nothing yet.

Which is a trifle ironic, because 'satanists' (to the degree that they actually take the stuff seriously, and aren't just into heavy metal and upsetting their parents), are far closer, in terms of opinions on metaphysics, to Christians than atheists are. Especially to some of the protestant outfits that are practically Manichean in their emphasis on the power of satan in the world...

Though, given how much they like Muslims, who are closer still, I suppose that it may be a matter of hating your competitors even more than people in a different industry altogether.

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643765)

Exactly. They believe in the same mythos. They just bow in a different direction.

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643877)

In a country where all debate seems to devolve into cheering for the home team this should be interesting to watch.

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (5, Funny)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 8 months ago | (#45643989)

Satan's great!
He's our man!
Sticks his pitchfork,
In your glands!

We like Satan,
He's so grand!
Yayyyyy Satan!

D-E-V-I-L
We want him to take control!
S-A-T-A-N
Satan Satan, best in show!

Yayyyyy Satan!

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45644029)

Though, given how much they like Muslims, who are closer still, I suppose that it may be a matter of hating your competitors even more than people in a different industry altogether.

Actually, Muslims/Islam is a greater threat to religious freedom (i.e. including the freedom to disbelieve anything) than the Satanists. The Satanists, AFAIK, don't have a geopolitical agenda to convert the world to Satanism. Whereas Muslims have converted territory equivalent to a continent first by war, when they had the capability, and later by terror & proselytization, when that power slipped away.

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45644033)

Yes, atheism is a much bigger issue than Satanism.

Satanism is like a competing company to theism that is eventually going to get bought out in its entirety.

Satan is not opposition to God. Satan is opposition to humans.

Capcha: repress

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (5, Informative)

sjames (1099) | about 8 months ago | (#45644065)

Many Satanists take their religion/philosophy very seriously, but do not believe in Satan as a literal being.

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643767)

Funny... reading Slashdot, it seems like it is atheists who fly off the handle any time religion is mentioned.

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643935)

LOL, yes we fly off the handle at our lack of belief. The only time we get upset is when OUR rights are infringed upon, like pushing religion as science in schools, or claiming that religion should be the basis of law. Or saying that Americans aren't real Americans unless they are christian, or saying that abortion should be illegal because god said so, but the death penalty should be applied to "coloreds", "retards", and "Demonrats" in disproportionate numbers. Yeah, stick to your confirmation bias though. No need to look past the nose you've cut off to spite your face.

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643973)

That might be because religion is an irrational, illogical, omnipresent belief in fairy tales with zero supporting evidence that has been used for thousands of years as a means of indoctrination, control and justification to kill. It's time that the human race moved beyond religion and superstition.

Tell me, when was the last time you had atheists come to your door or hand you a pamphlet trying to pressure and intimidate you into changing your beliefs?

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (5, Funny)

atheos (192468) | about 8 months ago | (#45643801)

no, not in the least. Satanists (in the minds of Christians) just help to validate the Christian world view. The Atheists will continue to be the ones primarily driving the evangelicals nuts. Us, and the new pope.

Re:Fireworks in 3...2...1... (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643971)

That's why I can't stand traveling to the middle of the country. The jet lag from "UTC-5" to "UTC-150 years" is a real bitch.

Offensive (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643589)

The keydifference between the statue of the ten commandments and the statue of the satanist is that the statue of the satanist is offensive.
This is why the statue of the satanist should not be allowed.

Re:Offensive (5, Insightful)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 8 months ago | (#45643621)

The keydifference between the statue of the ten commandments and the statue of the satanist is that the statue of the satanist is offensive.
This is why the statue of the satanist should not be allowed.

I find the statue of the ten commandments offensive. 1 for 1.

Your move, self-righteous jackass.

Re:Offensive (0, Insightful)

ganjadude (952775) | about 8 months ago | (#45643747)

im an atheist and I dont find the 10 commandments to be offensive, They are good rules to live by for the most part. I for one am getting sick and tired of atheists with too much time on their hands that they pretend to be offended.

An atheist does not believe in god, therefore who cares? When you think about it logically there is no reason an atheist should be offended by any of it as no one is forcing us to believe just because of a statue. I am a firm believer in live and let live. If people are happy about seeing a statue of the ten commandments, so be it! I also find it really annoying at atheists who bitch about the mangers that are set up every year around christmas, if you dont believe in it, how can it offend you?

Re:Offensive (5, Informative)

HornWumpus (783565) | about 8 months ago | (#45643787)

Bullshit.

Fully half the ten commandments involve which invisible sky friend you worship and how.

Re:Offensive (-1)

ganjadude (952775) | about 8 months ago | (#45643961)

true, but the point remains, if you do not believe in god, GOTO 50, It in no way is FORCING you to believe in an invisible man in the sky

Re:Offensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643807)

im an atheist and I dont find the 10 commandments to be offensive, They are good rules to live by for the most part.

“I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. You shall have no other gods before me."

Yep, nothing whatsoever in those commandments than an atheist might object to. Just good rules that every decent person should abide by.

Re:Offensive (1)

lxs (131946) | about 8 months ago | (#45644017)

An atheist shouldn't have a problem with this. A pantheist however...
Note also how it doesn't deny the existence of the other gods, or forbids worshipping them. It only says that Old Greybeard needs to be worshipped first and foremost. Which is the kind of loyalty that any god would want in his followers.

Re:Offensive (2, Insightful)

robmv (855035) | about 8 months ago | (#45643845)

People confuse two groups: atheist and anti theist, the former group doesn't believe in god, the later is a "religion" whose members think that everyone that believe in some kind of God(s) are sinners

Re:Offensive (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | about 8 months ago | (#45643881)

An atheist does not believe in god, therefore who cares?

One notes that first four commandments are dictates on how you will worship. Only once the *important* rules have been laid down do the commandments move on to "good rules to live by".

Re:Offensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643917)

A distressing amount of atheists feel "icky" when confronted with people who don't share their worldview and values. They're offended just by the fact that people with differing opinions and lifestyles exist, which leads them being offended by a few harmless rules which amount to "seriously, you guys, don't be assholes, for fuck's sake" solely because they're strongly tied to something they disagree with.

In a delicious bout of irony, these particular atheists who are quite vocal about said opinions and disgust tend to be very, very dismissive of people of faith for the exact same reasons...

Re:Offensive (5, Insightful)

betterprimate (2679747) | about 8 months ago | (#45643923)

im an atheist and I dont find the 10 commandments to be offensive, They are good rules to live by for the most part. I for one am getting sick and tired of atheists with too much time on their hands that they pretend to be offended.

The offense is not the 10 commandments themselves, but that *any* religious doctrine be institutionalized with the *intent* to impose one's faith on others.

I would say the 10 commandments being erected at a state capitol is going to far.

Re:Offensive (0)

ganjadude (952775) | about 8 months ago | (#45644007)

But the point remains, no one is FORCED to believe in the statue. I disagree with the intent that you feel it is somehow forcing you to believe. the 10 commandments have been on state capitols for as long as this country has been around, its nothing new, hell we swear on the BIBLE when we are in court! (I know you are not forced to use a bible but tradition is still there)

one does not have to believe in god to respect others. in other words, you do NOT have the right to not be offended anymore than someone of a different faith/non faith

Re:Offensive (5, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 8 months ago | (#45644039)

It's not about forcing anyone to believe, it is about the government be neutral on issues of religion. Putting up big statues of the Ten Commandments is not remaining neutral and is in fact promoting one religion (or at least one group of religions) over others.

Re:Offensive (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45644009)

I'm an apatheist-- I don't give a crap about religion. Too much time is wasted discussing it and politicizing it.

Re:Offensive (1)

RamiKro (3019255) | about 8 months ago | (#45644053)

You're an idiot.

Luckily, you don't believe me so you won't find me offensive.

Re:Offensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45644067)

If you're an atheist "I am your God. I am the eternal" is not a rule to live by. Nice try.

Re:Offensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643785)

Your fedora is showing. What, are you still mad because mommy made you go to church every Sunday?

Re:Offensive (3, Insightful)

PIBM (588930) | about 8 months ago | (#45643629)

The statue of the ten commandments is also offensive to those whom the satanist statue isn't, and to many more people.

When will we see a flying spaghetti monster up there ?? :)

Re:Offensive (1)

Lucas123 (935744) | about 8 months ago | (#45643775)

Seeing as the FSM isn't an actual deity that people worship, hopefully never. FSM was created as satirical character, not a real religion.

Re:Offensive (5, Insightful)

PIBM (588930) | about 8 months ago | (#45643817)

What makes you think the same isn't true of other religions ? Given enough time and wars, it's possible that the source of the FSM religion will be forgotten.

Re:Offensive (1)

Lucas123 (935744) | about 8 months ago | (#45643797)

Which one of the 10 commandments is offensive to you?

Re:Offensive (4, Insightful)

HornWumpus (783565) | about 8 months ago | (#45643873)

Do not worship any other gods.

Do not make any idols.

Do not take the lords name in vain.

Keep the sabbeth holy.

NO

Re:Offensive (0)

ganjadude (952775) | about 8 months ago | (#45644023)

if you are an atheist, you do not worship any other gods do you? ;)

Re:Offensive (1)

PIBM (588930) | about 8 months ago | (#45643909)

The commandments aren't per se the offensive part, the fact that a statue related to a specific religion is displayed there is the culprit for many people. Just look at what has been going on with Quebec's charter of values!

Re:Offensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643967)

Do not lie
Do not steal

Those two tend to be the main objections in modern times. Much of modern western culture is built on lying to people and robbing the ones who do not gratefully give over their wealth, liberties, or freedoms.

Re:Offensive (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45644059)

Which one of the 10 commandments is offensive to you?

This one is pretty offensive "I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other God before me."

I find your christian god arrogant and egotistical. The other gods deserve just as much respect.

Re:Offensive (5, Funny)

galgon (675813) | about 8 months ago | (#45643899)

How about a statue of Muhammad? It would offend both Christians and Muslims and make no one happy. Sounds like a perfect government solution.

Re:Offensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643681)

Offensive to who? Why is one imaginary ruler more offensive than another? Do you have any reason or just talking rubbish?

Re:Offensive (3, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 8 months ago | (#45643727)

"Offensive" is an unhelpful criterion because it's a subjective assessment, and one that varies from person to person. Unless you couple it with a statistical cut-off of some kind, you probably couldn't do anything without offending somebody. Even deciding whether to go with grass or masonry paving for the public space wouldn't be uncontroversial...

"Offensive", in practice, is either meaningless (since everything is, to somebody) or simply emotional majoritarianism (if you only count as 'offensive' things that offend large and influential groups of people). Lousy criterion.

Re:Offensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643753)

Either both are equally offensive, which is the point the Satanists are trying to make, or the Decalog statue is worse because its proponents actually take it--and what it stands for--seriously. They're both jokes, but the Satanists are at least in on theirs.

Re:Offensive (0, Troll)

Dzimas (547818) | about 8 months ago | (#45643777)

Why would that be? Because the ten commandments are sensible? Three of them are "Don't work on Sunday (but don't forget to attend church so you can be indoctrinated by his earthly minions)," "Don't say bad stuff about God (and by extension, his earthly minions)," and "You're not allowed to worship other Gods but me (which once again benefits his earthly minions)."

Re:Offensive (1)

MildlyTangy (3408549) | about 8 months ago | (#45643839)

lol, and the ten commandments statue isnt just as offensive to non Christians?

You obviously forgot to insert the "offensive to me" part.

I dont know how it can be offensive anyway, as Satan is part of Christian mythology ( and prob part of the other Abrahamic religions too ).

You cant get all offended about something that is an integral part of your own religion.

Re:Offensive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643887)

I think the idea of the government supporting any type of religion is offensive.
Allow them to practice whatever faith they want, but keep it out of government and off public property

Is a FSM Statue Next? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643593)

Please?

Re:Is a FSM Statue Next? (5, Funny)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 8 months ago | (#45643655)

I recommend a statue of Jesus, the FSM, Vishnu, and Abraham, all playing poker.

Vish, keep those hands where we can see them!

Re:Is a FSM Statue Next? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643675)

Honestly, I have no issue with sincerely-held beliefs but FSM is simply juvenile.

Re:Is a FSM Statue Next? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643833)

Why should any deity be any less revered, just because you happen to believe differently? How is FSM any more juvenile then a god who murders people because he gets angry, who turns people to salt for being curious, who commits adultury with a married woman and forces another guy to raise his son, then his son and him are really the same person because they said so...You really want to go down this rabbit hole?

Ten Commandments are "overtly Christian"? (5, Insightful)

Fallen Kell (165468) | about 8 months ago | (#45643599)

I thought they were overtly Jewish...

Re:Ten Commandments are "overtly Christian"? (2)

afidel (530433) | about 8 months ago | (#45643731)

Came here to say the exact same thing, though I was going to go with Abrahamic =)

Re:Ten Commandments are "overtly Christian"? (5, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 8 months ago | (#45643763)

The Jews with true Jew-fu have 613 commandments, though they do overlap with the reduced-commandment-set religions that were derived from them.

Re:Ten Commandments are "overtly Christian"? (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643843)

I thought it was fifteen commandments, at least until Moses dropped the third tablet.

Re:Ten Commandments are "overtly Christian"? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643969)

Have you bullshitted this week? Do you plan on bullshitting this week?

Re:Ten Commandments are "overtly Christian"? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643895)

The Jews with true Jew-fu have 613 commandments, though they do overlap with the reduced-commandment-set religions that were derived from them.

I thought it was Jew-Jitsu

*runs*

Also an important fact as well: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643783)

Jews did WTC

Re:Also an important fact as well: (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643937)

Your mom did 911 Jews.

Re:Ten Commandments are "overtly Christian"? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643939)

I thought they were overtly Jewish...

Aren't the 10 commandments taken from the Pharonic Egyptian Book Of The Dead?

Satanists? (5, Insightful)

Skevin (16048) | about 8 months ago | (#45643603)

I have trouble believing they are really Satanists, rather than people claiming to be Satanists.

Oh wait, that's true of most Christians too.

Re:Satanists? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643707)

If their statue looks like Danzig then they're probably not real Satanists

Re:Satanists? (4, Funny)

dyingtolive (1393037) | about 8 months ago | (#45643793)

What if it looks like Ronnie James Dio?

Re:Satanists? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45644001)

I'd convert to Dioism. Hail RJD.

Re:Satanists? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45644031)

What if it looks like Ronnie James Dio?

Someone mod this man up!

Re:Satanists? (4, Funny)

Mr D from 63 (3395377) | about 8 months ago | (#45643869)

I hung out with some Satinists. Very materialistic.

Re:Satanists? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643975)

Most Satanists go by the politically-correct term "Capitalist" instead, to describe their religious/philosophical system.

captcha: chaplain

all right (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643607)

hail satan!

anybody surprised? (2)

WindBourne (631190) | about 8 months ago | (#45643609)

This is why we need a clean separation of church and state. And yeah, the evangelical in OK are going to go nuts once they realize that they MUST allow this garbage.

Re:anybody surprised? (5, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 8 months ago | (#45643907)

The evangelicals really should have remembered the Danbury Baptists...

Exercising the temporal power of fire and sword against your religious enemies is fun and all; but (even when you are on top) tends to be corrupting, and when you aren't, it opens the door to being at the mercy of every different group out there.

Plus, even among people who would ordinarily be inclined to treat your choices of faith as purely personal and let you believe as you will, nothing sours toleration quite like making it clear that you are ready and willing to impose what you believe on everyone else. Suddenly, and wholly because of your actions, your beliefs are now everybody's business; because everybody will suffer for them. That's when the gloves come off (most notably among atheists: 'god-not-existing' is something that isn't even worth mentioning, except that people who believe otherwise keep pushing the matter. In absence of pressure from theists, the nonexistence of god is about as interesting as the nonexistence of Russel's teapot.)

Obama (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643633)

Will be blamed for this by republicans, I guarantee it.

Re: Obama (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643713)

Can't we just blame it on Dubya?

Would this be good news? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643667)

I for one welcome this monument. Tolerance and acceptance of those with whom we might disagree has been a principle in our country for many years. I hope that the courage shown in the original decision continues to be the guiding light by which all future decisions are based against.

Re:Would this be good news? (4, Insightful)

ThorGod (456163) | about 8 months ago | (#45643729)

I for one welcome this monument. Tolerance and acceptance of those with whom we might disagree has been a principle in our country for many years. I hope that the courage shown in the original decision continues to be the guiding light by which all future decisions are based against.

The problem with your logic is it's too good to ever see the light of day.

ACLU (5, Insightful)

anmre (2956771) | about 8 months ago | (#45643669)

I like the ACLU's stance here. If everyone is not free, than nobody is free.

Re:ACL (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643903)

That is simplstic. My happiness is based on killing ACLU lawyers. By denying me the right to be free and kill ACLU lawyers, the ACLU denying my freedom and therefore enslaving everyone on the entire planet, oh wait that would be every single living being in the entire multi-verse

Gee Thanks ACLU. Way to look out for freedom,

"Historical significance" (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643697)

The Ten Commandments has historical significance but anything associated with any other religion does not.

'Our Lady of Copious Lubricants' is next! (0, Offtopic)

HornWumpus (783565) | about 8 months ago | (#45643709)

Yes, I am the pope of that Church.

Tim Curry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643771)

Hopefully Tim Curry will agree to model for the statue...

http://www.northhollyhood.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/tim-curry-legend-2.jpg

Spaghetti Monster Monument (1)

kwiecmmm (1527631) | about 8 months ago | (#45643779)

I think that the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster should get involved with this as well. I would donate to a Pastafarianism monument.

"With its overtly Christian message" (4, Informative)

sd4f (1891894) | about 8 months ago | (#45643805)

The 10 commandments are of jewish origin, and are respected by muslims as well, since they are included in the quran. They didn't come from Jesus, so the 'overtly Christian message' comment just seems to be way off the mark and most importantly, it is technically incorrect.

While governments shouldn't really get involved at all, with religions, because it will exhibit some favouritism, amongst a plethora of other reasons, the satanists in this instance just appear to be sectarians who desperately hate christians. I guess by being motivated by hate, they do display that they're practicing satanists, rather than just regular bigotry and intolerance present in religions.

Re:"With its overtly Christian message" (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643911)

The 10 Commandments are "overtly Christian" in the sense that the swastika is "overtly Nazi." Though the swastika had been used for millenia before by other groups, it was the Nazis (and neo-Nazis today) who adopted it as a political rallying symbol. Similarly, it's the far-right loons who have adopted public imposition of 10 Commandments monuments to assert political and social dominance. These monuments are not being put up to encourage support and inclusion of Muslims in the community.

It's called tradition (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643811)

Look it up.

Hail Satan! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643821)

Hail Satan!

Noodly Appendages (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643829)

Lest ye forget....

Well it's nice to see some civic involvement (5, Funny)

cpt kangarooski (3773) | about 8 months ago | (#45643847)

God bless those Satanists

I will donate for a giant spaghetti strainer (1)

cpotoso (606303) | about 8 months ago | (#45643849)

Viva the pastafarians, viva the giant spaghetti monster!

Hail Satan (0)

wisnoskij (1206448) | about 8 months ago | (#45643859)

This needs to happen.

Overlooking one significant detail (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643875)

The 10 Commandments are a basis of many of our laws, and since the capital grounds are where laws are made it can (and has been) argued successfully that they serve a historical/legal purpose. Put up a copy of the code of Hamarrabi (sp?) and some quotes from Locke, etc, then make the standard "must have historical legal significance" and the problem goes away.

Overtly Christian? (1)

wiredlogic (135348) | about 8 months ago | (#45643879)

More like overtly Jewish. You know, from those same Oklahomans that avoid eating pork and invertebrates, shaving the corners of their head, operating electrical machines on the sabbath, and wearing blended clothes.

Hmmm (0)

Stumbles (602007) | about 8 months ago | (#45643883)

Satanism and good taste do not fit in the same sentence and oxymoronic. If satanism believes all gods are just from an inventive mind then why choose "Satan" a fallen angel as you monicker? You have fallen into your own "perceived" trap.

Futility (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643889)

I never cease to be amused by how people seeking to troll/harm Christianity think that Satanic imagery is going to do it.

It won't, any more than monuments to Loki would do anything but increase awareness of Thor. It's the same metaphysical system (pointless dissembling by LaVeyans notwithstanding), and which statistically "wins" for a given case of interest is manifestly clear.

I doubt, in fact, there has been a single greater recent "recruiter" of Christians than the "Diablo" series of games. Mysterious ways, indeed...

I approve of this freedom of expression. (1)

Ross Braithwaite (3458567) | about 8 months ago | (#45643897)

Next we need a statue of the Magical Teapot orbiting Jupiter and The Flying Spaghetti Monster guiding the masses with his noodly appendage.

Historic/Literary Satan (1)

Salvage (178446) | about 8 months ago | (#45643915)

Wasn't that some sort of ancient equivalent of a defense attorney?

Re:Historic/Literary Satan (1)

Actually, I do RTFA (1058596) | about 8 months ago | (#45644003)

Prosecutor, I believe.

Lovin' it! (3, Informative)

Okian Warrior (537106) | about 8 months ago | (#45643921)

I am just loving this to bits. Getting my popcorn ready, this should be good!

For the record, the oft-quoted statement "Do as thou wilt be the whole of the law" does not mean what people think.

It comes from The Book of Law [wikiquote.org] , and is followed by "Love is the law, love under will."

People don't normally include that last part, for some reason.

(The study of this post is forbidden. It is wise to destroy this browser tab after the first reading.
Whosoever disregards this does so at his own risk and peril. These are most dire.)

Get more comments 66 of 66 loaded (1)

malraid (592373) | about 8 months ago | (#45643941)

Let's push this baby up to 666 comments ! Gotta love freedom of expression.

Who pays for maintenance? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#45643951)

So when it's vandalized, who pays for the repair/removal?

A standard that all of these monuments should have- you're responsible for the maintenance that goes with it, or once it starts looking bad it'll just be dumped.

So... Any religious monument? (3, Funny)

AioKits (1235070) | about 8 months ago | (#45643959)

As a Tulsa, Oklahoma resident, this fills me with so much pride. Now to raise the money for a monument to Fenrir! Maybe a Ledberg stone replica? Anyone else up for it?
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