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GitHub Takes Down Satirical 'C Plus Equality' Language

timothy posted about 4 months ago | from the questions-and-meta-questions dept.

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FooAtWFU writes "Some clowns and jokers over at 4chan thought it would be a funny idea to put together a web page for a programming language named 'C Plus Equality' as a parody of feminism, dismissing OOP as 'objectifying' and inheritance as "a tool of the patriarchy". But this parody was apparently too hot to host at Github, which took down the original Github repository after receiving criticism on Twitter, prompting a backlash and inquiry into the role of free speech and censorship on Github's platform. The project has since found a new home on BitBucket, at least for the time being." Comments on an article describing the research which sparked the parody call the parody's language "fake," and compare it to the 1996 Sokal affair. (It also reminds me a bit of Jesux.)

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frosty piss (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689347)

check me dubs!

The worst thing... (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689355)

Is that Github also killed off all the forked versions of the repo as well, not just the main one.

I'm a little bit annoyed that they both have this power and used it in this wya.

Re:The worst thing... (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689369)

That's a bit like saying you're annoyed that someone cleaned up after graffiti. Or fixed a broken window.

Re:The worst thing... (4, Insightful)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 4 months ago | (#45689395)

What "fixed a broken window"? Any newly created repository occupies a previously unoccupied point in the infinite space of all possible repositories. This is more like someone building a house (without affecting any other houses) whose architecture you happen to dislike.

Re:The worst thing... (5, Insightful)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | about 4 months ago | (#45689457)

This is more like someone building a house (without affecting any other houses) whose architecture you happen to dislike.

Indeed.

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." -Voltaire

Now we know.

Re:The worst thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689561)

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." -Voltaire

Now we know.

pol is always right

Re:The worst thing... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689587)

What is with everyone bastardizing the quotes of Voltaire and taking them out of their literary and historical context everytime they want to justify something stupid? Yes 'Wonko the Sane' because a US company (particularly one that has nothing to do with political activism and gender-based activism) refuses to be platform for the voices of sexist (or racist or homophobic individuals) means that women, minorities and gay people definitely have *all the power* in the US.

Maybe write a complaint to the female-dominated tech industry and ask them to have some empathy towards your historical experiences of oppression by women and modern discrimination you face by women? Or write a complaint to the female-dominated congress who are trying to curtail your rights and freedom along gender lines? Or no write a comment on the male-dominated website slashdot expressing your concern about how all the women are taking over!

Re:The worst thing... (5, Insightful)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | about 4 months ago | (#45689633)

Mostly I was talking about the multiple calls on Twitter [twitter.com] to hunt down the people who dared to star the repository on GitHub and seek to get their employment terminated.

Some people clearly can't take a joke, and are enraged that anyone else might, and will punish anyone who doesn't comply with their demands.

Re:The worst thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689665)

And yet, here you are, proving his point -- and good money says you won't be the last. You don't have to be sitting in the captain's chair to steer the boat... but I feel pretty certain that you'll have as much trouble understanding that as you seem to have with pretty much anything Voltaire ever said.

Re: The worst thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689837)

Nicely put.

Re:The worst thing... (4, Insightful)

Richard_at_work (517087) | about 4 months ago | (#45689467)

Yup, building a house on private land that you do not own, but are allowed to build on under the understanding that the land owner has final say at any moment.

Re:The worst thing... (3, Insightful)

maxwell demon (590494) | about 4 months ago | (#45689519)

If the land owner puts forward a set of conditions to allow you to build on that land, and you agree to those conditions, you and the land owner entered a contract. And that contract not only binds you, it also binds the land owner. And if you didn't violate that contract and the contract doesn't specifically allow the land owner to tear down the house even if you didn't violate the contract, the land owner has no right to tear it down.

Re:The worst thing... (1)

Richard_at_work (517087) | about 4 months ago | (#45689555)

Precisely, hence "the land owner has final say at any moment."

I'm guessing no one in this palava has actually read the GitHub terms of use...

Re:The worst thing... (4, Informative)

WWJohnBrowningDo (2792397) | about 4 months ago | (#45689651)

GitHub, in its sole discretion, has the right to suspend or terminate your account and refuse any and all current or future use of the Service, or any other GitHub service, for any reason at any time. Such termination of the Service will result in the deactivation or deletion of your Account or your access to your Account, and the forfeiture and relinquishment of all Content in your Account. GitHub reserves the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason at any time.

So which part of "the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason at any time" don't you understand?

Re:The worst thing... (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689755)

I don't see where it mentions anything about a house.

Re:The worst thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689895)

Fuck GitHub. They're like Yahoo. Fuck these corporate tyrants, who needs 'em.

Re:The worst thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689563)

Having the right to renege on an agreement, however open-ended, does not make you any less of a hypocrite for doing so.

Re:The worst thing... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689607)

It's not about whether they had a RIGHT to take it down, it's about whether they SHOUULD.

Cinemas have a "right" to not screen movies that are offensive to christians/muslims/jews, but should they? Is that the kind of society you want to live in?

And what does it say about feminists if they're acting like an organised religion?

Re:The worst thing... (4, Insightful)

Typical Slashdotter (2848579) | about 4 months ago | (#45689853)

Agreed. I'm sick of comments like the GP in this sort of discussion. No one is asking whether they are legally obligated to keep hosting it, so why are so many people so quick to point out that they're not?

Re:The worst thing... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689907)

Because of this idea that "if it's legal, it's the right thing to do". These are the descendants of those who defended slavery because it was legal, and they had private property rights over other humans.

Re:The worst thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689559)

Any newly created repository occupies a previously unoccupied point in the infinite space of all possible repositories.

Is Github's purpose to host all possible repositories, or some subset of that (which may still be infinite...)? Most websites on the web have some emphasis, and don't intend to host every possible thing someone could or would want to put out on the web. So they filter stuff out that doesn't meet their goal, in part because they can save resources for their priorities. If I made a cooking website for hosting recipes, and someone starts posting some creative stories written in some recipe format, regardless of their value, I might deem that as not appropriate, using up resources that real recipes could, and clogging up searches with fake recipes. If additionally it turns out to be bringing negative attention to my site, that isn't going to help motivation to let it slide and ignore it because it doesn't use that much resources.

Re:The worst thing... (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 4 months ago | (#45689667)

Except that I was not commenting on whether Github should or shouldn't be doing that; I was merely busting the ridiculous analogy.

Re:The worst thing... (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689447)

That's a bit like saying you're annoyed that someone cleaned up after graffiti. Or fixed a broken window.

Yeah, I don't think it's ridiculously unreasonable that a site meant to host software projects has a requirement that hosted projects actually be software projects.

Re:The worst thing... (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | about 4 months ago | (#45689537)

That's a bit like saying you're annoyed that someone cleaned up after graffiti.

If he previously offered me to paint on that wall whatever I want and promised me to keep it there, I would be annoyed if afterwards he cleaned it up.

Re:The worst thing... (5, Insightful)

svanheulen (901014) | about 4 months ago | (#45689421)

Why wouldn't they have that power? I have that power on websites that I own and operate. I never understand why people feel that owners don't have the right to manage their own website as they see fit. If you don't like the way they operate use someone else or, better yet, make your own website and host it on your own hardware.

Re:The worst thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689627)

I don't think anyone is arguing that they don't have the right to be completely arbitrary in the application of their unspoken rules and regulations; only that by exercising that right, they are showing the world what a bunch of tools they are. Property owners have final say over their property, to be sure, but free speech -- the right to bitch about said property owner's decision -- trumps all.

Re:The worst thing... (3, Insightful)

x0ra (1249540) | about 4 months ago | (#45689757)

You are right. GitHub can decide to delete any repo they want, just as Starbuck has the right to forbid me to carry a firearm in their shops. But I also have the right to disagree and to boycott them. When taking a stance, the question is which, and how much customers can you afford to antagonize ?

Re: The worst thing... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689629)

I don't understand why being a private company should absolve it of criticism for its private acts of censorship, even when it's acting within its legal rights.

Re: The worst thing... (1)

x0ra (1249540) | about 4 months ago | (#45689777)

It does not absolves. I shall be free to disagree and express my disagreement. I use "shall" as the boundary between negative criticize and libel might be thin.

I hope they made it easy to get the data (3, Insightful)

davidwr (791652) | about 4 months ago | (#45689701)

As a matter of being polite, free hosting services like GitHub should have a "standard practice" of providing an "easy download of all data" for discontinued accounts.

For collaborative projects, this might be either putting the thing in "read only" mode for several weeks or bundling up the whole thing in a tarball-like dataset (in a non-proprietary format of course) and letting anyone who previously contributed download the thing for a reasonable period of time.

This would be "standard practice." There would be case-by-case exceptions for things which cannot be hosted in this way, such as material that would put an undue burden on the hosting service or which is otherwise infeasible or impossible for the hosting service to provide this kind of "graceful exit."

In short: To maintain good public relations, services should make reasonable efforts to assist those who uploaded data or who participated in collaborative projects can get their data back if the account is suddenly terminated by the hosting service.

Popcorn! (3, Funny)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about 4 months ago | (#45689371)

Oh this thread should be good, combining programming, version control, feminism and censorship in one delicious gooey filling. Making popcorn. BRB.

Re:Popcorn! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689709)

Making popcorn. BRB.

Why don't you just tell your wife to make it for you?

Re:Popcorn! (5, Funny)

VortexCortex (1117377) | about 4 months ago | (#45689833)

I have much experience in dealing with the topic at hand, and feel obliged to warn you of the inherent danger of your snack selection preference in this instance.

The social justice warrior will insist you be eating all the popcorn whether it pops or not. After all: Should not all the kernels be treated equally? You're not a popist cornsagonist furthering strict kernel roles, are you?

Others observant of finer detail than applying the label popist or not based on eating preference will note that all the kernels were treated equally: They were given a chance to pop, but some did not choose to be popped and digested by the system. Indeed there could be physiological predeterminations for the unpopped vs popped variety of kernel, and it would be equally wrong to pressure the eater to consume those that are incompatible with digestion as it's wrong to shame the unpopped kernels for not entering the food cycle; Certainly it would be moronic to claim the plight of the popped ones is a privilege.

The social justice warrior will then declare that the popped or not state can't be determined at kernel creation, it's the environment that has a bias for exactly what types of corn are suitable for popping and creates repressive constraints on which kernels are allowed to pop. They'll demand a more fair popping system be devised, but not actually outline any exact plans for such a system so you'll know when it has been achieved, and they'll ignore how the popping system may affect the popped corn itself.

Others with a knowledge of botany and thermodynamics will point out that kernels of certain genetic predispositions have known traits, and that there are many systems for popping, which all yield different types of popped corn and unpopped kernels. Air popping gives kernels more time to pop, but creates a drier popcorn that's not suitable for everyone's tastes. Kettle popping creates a more traditional flavour, and yields more unpopped kernels. The most unpopped kernels are produced via microwave environment due to the heat being applied to already popped kernels which limits the duration of popping time and kernel batch size, it's also more likely to produce artificial flavors; However, nuked kernels have utility in being compact and accessible to more eaters. It's too simplistic to blame the eater for the kernels or popping environment available, or the environment for the consumer's preference, or either of these for the physical properties of individual kernels or how the laws of thermodynamics and genetics work. Neither the eater nor the popper are being cornsagonist against kernels; To them all the kernels are given equal opportunity to pop and enter the digestive system.

At which point the social justice warrior will leverage a collection of statistics on the types of popping and evidence of past abuse of corn, burning, neglect, being feed to lesser animals, etc. They'll point to select occurrences of popping gone horribly wrong. If one's not careful to interject quickly it will turn into a gish gallop. [rationalwiki.org]

While admittedly the tragic popping can't be ignored, one must examine the frequency of such occurrence and the attention that society does give -- A slew of firemen may arrive to deal with a single bag of over nuked corn; It's clearly not cornsagony. The scientific minded observer will point out that past abuses do not reflect current corn popping culture and that anecdotal evidence is not really evidence; They'll note that the statistics only show a trend, not a causal link to cornsagony, and that sections of the studies have gone ignored: The uneaten popped kernels. If the study was performed by the social justice alliance you'll likely find a bias in the selection criteria (went looking for evidence for a preconceived kernel popping opinion) and there'll be no testing of the null hypothesis, or unequivocal evidence that the conclusion is correct, or that popping trends could not instead be formed by other more complex issues. [youtube.com]

Of course the more simplistic emotional argument will appeal to the social justice warrior who only really cares about the state of corn eatery as a whole so long as it is aligned with their existing world views implanted in their kernel studies courses. Through application of confirmation bias they'll disregard any explanation that is differing from what they expect to see especially if it is more complex, nuanced, or just blatantly contradictory scientific evidence. [csulb.edu] Now comes the baseless accusations of being a burning apologist, a closet popist, cornsagony denier, anti-corn-equaliy, etc.

At this point it's best to select a multi-color flavor accepting snack such as Skittles -- However if you really want to stir them up, dump a bag of "masculine" colored & normalized flavor Reese's Pieces into the buttered popped corn for a warm sweet and salty treat: Watch out, the candy coats have a higher melting point than the delicious molten chocolate-peanut-butter inside. It melts in your bag, if not, in your mouth.

Free speech (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689399)

As far as I understand, the deleted project did not break laws or Github's rules.

It looks to me that the Github's deletion act is a violation of free speech.

Re:Free speech (4, Insightful)

AuMatar (183847) | about 4 months ago | (#45689443)

Its not the government. Its a private entity and thus not bound by the first amendment.

But it does bring up an important point- GitHub is a private entity, a for-profit company. Right now, they provide a useful service if you like git. In the future they may not. Many companies have helped the FOSS community then turned their backs on it. Use them, but don't ever fully trust them.

Re:Free speech (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689749)

Not in California, where GitHub is headquartered. California's constitution says "everyone has the right to free speech" and the Supreme Court of the US has interpreted this to mean that it goes beyond "Congress shall pass no law..." and applies, in some situations, to private entities. The more someone opens their property up to the use of the general public, the more their private property rights are circumscribed by the publics. See Pruneyard vs. Robins. I'm not saying that people certainly have a right to use Github like they way they have a right to pass out fliers at a shopping center or outside a big box store, but to deny that freedom of speech applies to private businesses/property in California is wrong.

Re:Free speech (1)

kthreadd (1558445) | about 4 months ago | (#45689785)

Which makes git very useful since no point is special.

But I guess you're in some trouble if you used things like their issue tracker and wiki. That's not in git as far as I know.

Re:Free speech (5, Insightful)

FooAtWFU (699187) | about 4 months ago | (#45689465)

Well. Github's Terms of Service [github.com] clearly identifies that "We may, but have no obligation to, remove Content and Accounts containing Content that we determine in our sole discretion are unlawful, offensive, threatening, libelous, defamatory, pornographic, obscene or otherwise objectionable". I assume they used that discretion to find it either "offensive" or "otherwise objectionable". And clearly Github is well within their legal rights to take down this content.

But it does illustrate the limits of Github's commitment to freedom and openness: if it offends Github's staff, or if Github thinks it offends people who could get them in some level of trouble, they'll take down your content. So, you can still use Github as a platform to effect change in the world, but only insofar as Github&co agree with you.

Re:Free speech (5, Insightful)

Trepidity (597) | about 4 months ago | (#45689621)

But it does illustrate the limits of Github's commitment to freedom and openness

Considering their platform is mainly closed-source, I'm not sure this is the first place we've spotted that they are not fully committed to freedom and openness. They're a business that sells project hosting space, using the free accounts as a marketing & onboarding tool, not some kind of free-culture advocacy group.

Re:Free speech (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689623)

Well. Github's Terms of Service [github.com] clearly identifies that "We may, but have no obligation to, remove Content and Accounts containing Content that we determine in our sole discretion are unlawful, offensive, threatening, libelous, defamatory, pornographic, obscene or otherwise objectionable". I assume they used that discretion to find it either "offensive" or "otherwise objectionable". And clearly Github is well within their legal rights to take down this content.

But it does illustrate the limits of Github's commitment to freedom and openness: if it offends Github's staff, or if Github thinks it offends people who could get them in some level of trouble, they'll take down your content. So, you can still use Github as a platform to effect change in the world, but only insofar as Github&co agree with you.

Change in the world? Thefuck? Github is not some public square for satirical commentary on everyday life. Its for code. Its for code that people want/need to share with others. Its a waste of bandwidth and resources for a project on there to not be even remotely pursuant to the purpose of Github. They removed it because it did not further their mission of hosting CODE. Jesus christ already. If it were a satirical pro-feminism project and it got tossed, you would probably be clapping. Shut the fuck up and go write some code.

Re:Free speech (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689897)

What it really illustrates is that we need many many more websites that provide hosting of open source projects. There should be a kit that people can install on their own web hosting account to manage their open source project and optionally others, plus a search engine dedicated to finding open source projects across the net.

Re:Free speech (1)

maxwell demon (590494) | about 4 months ago | (#45689473)

As far as I understand, the deleted project did not break laws or Github's rules.

It looks to me that the Github's deletion act is a violation of free speech.

Since github is a private organization, they are not required to offer a platform for free speech. However it might be a breach of contract.

Feminist Programming Language (4, Funny)

wisnoskij (1206448) | about 4 months ago | (#45689469)

Specifically it looks like it might be a satire of the entirely serious Feminist programming Language discussion (http://m.hastac.org/blogs/ari-schlesinger/2013/11/26/feminism-and-programming-languages).

"The idea came about while discussing normative and feminist subject object theory. I realized that object oriented programmed reifies normative subject object theory. This led me to wonder what a feminist programming language would look like, one that might allow you to create entanglements (Karen Barad Posthumanist Performativity)."

Re:Feminist Programming Language (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689497)

Can someone explain what that even means?

Re:Feminist Programming Language (4, Insightful)

Wonko the Sane (25252) | about 4 months ago | (#45689571)

Can someone explain what that even means?

No, that's the point of postmodern language.

The purpose is to allow practitionors to show off verbal proficiency without requiring any intellectual rigour, or indeed saying anything falsifiable at all.

Re:Feminist Programming Language (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689599)

They formed a focus group to determine how to best market a subpar programming language, is my guess.

Re:Feminist Programming Language (1)

EdgePenguin (2646733) | about 4 months ago | (#45689605)

It means that OOP creates a situation where things are acted upon by actors (programmers), which she claims parallels how woman are treated in society. I think, my Feminist Bullshit is a little rusty.

If you see a microcosm of (mostly imagined) slights against women in programming language structures, as far as I'm concerned you are a paranoid lunatic.

Re:Feminist Programming Language (4, Funny)

DeVilla (4563) | about 4 months ago | (#45689673)

To understand it you have to frame the topic with postmodern vocalities to extract the deeper counter-context of the coherency structures embellished by undifferentiated interval exposition. Once you see that, it's actually pretty intuitive.

Re:Feminist Programming Language (1)

mcgrew (92797) | about 4 months ago | (#45689811)

Excellent! I see you're in management, you've mastered the language fully. Anyone who's taken a verbal logic class is laughing.

Re:Feminist Programming Language (4, Informative)

DeVilla (4563) | about 4 months ago | (#45689867)

Actually I spewed a little postmodern gibberish that came to me. Then I googled "postmodern gibberish" and found this: http://www.infiltec.com/j-postmd.htm [infiltec.com]. After that I pick a few choice words and filtered them through a thesaurus and strung it all together.

I guess a good magician shouldn't give away he technique. Just don't ask me what any of it was supposed to mean.

Re:Feminist Programming Language (1)

Tom (822) | about 4 months ago | (#45689593)

Thanks, the only comment worth reading.

As much as GitHub is within their rights to remove anything they want from their free service, it's yet another shame that feminism is the new religion - you aren't allowed to make fun of it (you're allowed to make fun of religion now, but it was a long and at times bloody struggle, and in some parts of the world it can still get you fucking killed today. I'm glad feminism isn't there yet. I'm afraid some feminazis wish it were.)

Re:Feminist Programming Language (2)

BenJeremy (181303) | about 4 months ago | (#45689641)

Ludicrous rantings that apply sexism to tools deserve scorn, satire and parody.

Are there "Feminist" wheels?

A better (but still stupid) question might be: Are languages Anglo-centric? At least we could make some sort of case and fluff up enough flowery academic language and references to make it stick - and yet it would also be pointless.

Programming languages only deserve to be criticized in terms of their ability to produce usable software, measured by productivity, ease of learning, flexibility, and robustness. Anything else is simply inane rambling.

Re:Feminist Programming Language (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689653)

Programming languages only deserve to be criticized in terms of their ability to produce usable software, measured by productivity, ease of learning, flexibility, and robustness. Anything else is simply inane rambling.

That's sexist. And also racist.

Re:Feminist Programming Language (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689655)

>normative theory
I'm not sure that's an accepted or recognized theory.
>entanglements
I'm not sure you're not bullshitting.
>performativity
I'm not sure you're using words in the English language.

Re:Feminist Programming Language (4, Funny)

Miamicanes (730264) | about 4 months ago | (#45689705)

> This led me to wonder what a feminist programming language would look like,
> one that might allow you to create entanglements

Ah... in other words... a language based upon dependency-injection for non-deterministic multithreaded runtime environments with planned monthly maintenance cycles. It's mostly interrupt based and requires extensive exception-handling. :-D

new queen of the nile a guy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689471)

so we see being condescending doesn't help

link (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689475)

linking to a 4chan thread in the summery...this should go well.

Re:link (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689595)

It's still alive. If it dies, here's a link for the /g/ archive:
http://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/S38739122

There were threads on other boards about this as well, which were hilarious. Free speech was fun while it lasted.

Fuck github.....they allow mindfuck and not C+= ? (3, Insightful)

sneezinglion (771733) | about 4 months ago | (#45689481)

https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew/pull/8253 [github.com]

I am sorry, but C+= is not the first parody language.....

Re:Fuck github.....they allow mindfuck and not C+= (4, Insightful)

Ian Grant (3082979) | about 4 months ago | (#45689521)

The difference is that mindfuck isn't targeting one group of people with a demeaning "parody".

Re:Fuck github.....they allow mindfuck and not C+= (2, Insightful)

Trepidity (597) | about 4 months ago | (#45689663)

Mindfuck is also an actual interpreter for an actual programming language. It may not be the most useful programming language, but it is one. The interpreter's source code is what's hosted on Github: it's code, in a code repository, pretty much the kind of thing GitHub intends to host. C+= was not a language implementation, not even an implementation of a parody language.

Re:Fuck github.....they allow mindfuck and not C+= (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689769)

Yes, because it's wrong to make fun of the language people use to make their political statements.

This language still exists. It's called Python (0)

Thrill Science (2845693) | about 4 months ago | (#45689487)

We switched from Python to Perl at my company because Python had become the language of "Wymyn" and more of a political platform than an engineering tool. Shame on GitHub. They could have just made it "private"

Re:This language still exists. It's called Python (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689611)

This language shares more problematic traits with Python: indentation rather than curly brackets (but ignore the example programs), a too-loose exposure of private members, and the biggie: the language designer has no beard.

Good (1, Insightful)

Chemisor (97276) | about 4 months ago | (#45689489)

GitHub is a place for code, not political activism. If your project is more the latter than the former, it deserves to be removed. Put it on your own blog instead.

I'm not a coward! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689491)

The Sokal affair was an academic exercise, comparing this to it is not adequate. On the other hand, indeed it's just like Jesux.

You seriously linked to a 4chan post? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689493)

You do realize "Timothy" (OP) that these threads die in hours on 4chan... right?

Re:You seriously linked to a 4chan post? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689683)

Confirmed for not knowing anything about anything. Also, archives exist.
http://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/S38739122

Rather lame of GitHub (2)

jopet (538074) | about 4 months ago | (#45689513)

they are totally within their rights of being that lame, of course, but they chose to be totally lame here.
Ah well, good for BitBucket.

Re:Rather lame of GitHub (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689679)

I made the switch to bitbucket and with all the private repos I don't have to pay for I don't look back.

Surely a feminist language would be delcaritive? (3, Funny)

EdgePenguin (2646733) | about 4 months ago | (#45689553)

Imperative languages are patriarchal - some privileged brogrammer barking orders - so surely a declarative language is the way to go?

In fact, the only feminist program you ever need to write goes:

RADICAL NOTION: women==people

...and then any non-patriarchal machine knows what you want done.

Re:Surely a feminist language would be delcaritive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689643)

And if they did an all mens language it would have a syntax like where variable assignment goes on the right.

value operator variable

The to help make sure that stupid mistakes like mixing up = and == the = operator would be extended to ====.

A typical line of program would look like.

8====D

Is this within GitHub's mission? (1, Insightful)

davidwr (791652) | about 4 months ago | (#45689557)

The only relevant issues I see here are:
1) Is this parody within the scope of GitHub's reason-for-existance?
2) If it is outside of this scope, how has and how will GitHub treat similar repositories?

Unless GitHub has had a similar situation in the past and treated this repository differently, save the outrage until someone else comes along and pushes the boundaries in a similar way and GitHub reacts in a significantly different way without explaining why.

Re:Is this within GitHub's mission? (0, Troll)

EdgePenguin (2646733) | about 4 months ago | (#45689631)

Its not in GitHub's mission to be laid into by feminist harpies. The professionally thin-skinned have presence and numbers online now, and many places are simply taking anything that might be denounced as 'offensive' down to avoid trouble.

Re:Is this within GitHub's mission? (-1, Flamebait)

dkleinsc (563838) | about 4 months ago | (#45689745)

You have a right to say whatever you like online. You don't have a right to use somebody else's servers to say it. Github says in its terms of use that it can take stuff down if they find it offensive. They found this offensive. They're well within their rights to take it down if they like.

Also, I find your statement offensive. To demonstrate why, I'll just change a few words around to give you an idea of how you come across:
"It's not in GitHub's mission to be laid into by uppity Negros. The professionally thin-skinned have presence and numbers online now, and many places are simply taking anything that might be denouced as 'offensive' down to avoid trouble."
Or how about:
"It's not in GitHub's mission to be laid into by Hebrew money-grubbers. The professionally thin-skinned have presence and numbers online now, and many places are simply taking anything that might be denouced as 'offensive' down to avoid trouble."

Why you would think the problem was with "the professionally thin-skinned" rather than with people who would think it's funny to say nasty things about large groups of other people is beyond me. Oh, and good luck having quality relationships with women if, whenever you find one who stands up for herself, you consider her a "feminist harpy". And for the record, I'm a guy.

Re:Is this within GitHub's mission? (3, Informative)

EdgePenguin (2646733) | about 4 months ago | (#45689859)

And you have fallen into the trap that so many feminists do. I make a criticism against an ideology. You tried to show this was a horrifically offensive criticism by transposing into a criticism against a race. A person does not choose their race (or their gender, sexuality etc.) but they do choose to have an ideology. You make the same tragic error as those who believe any criticism of Islam is racism.

Having constructed an absurd straw man, you then top things off with an ad hominem. You know nothing about me - not least the fact that I'm happily married.

Given the this community's gender troubles... (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689575)

Given this community's gender troubles (e.g. http://www.livescience.com/9772-geeks-drive-girls-computer-science.html), does mocking feminists do anything other than confirm the boy's club. Yes, misapplying feminist critiques of male dominated society to programming languages is amusing, but really lads, time to clean up the house.

Audios github. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689693)

Excellent, more PC police defending the angry nubs. Audios github.

That thread won't be up for long (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689699)

Threads on /g/ rarely last more than a day (just due to how fast the board is) and that thread especially will hit the culling limit soon. You should replace the link with this one: http://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/38739122 or any other reputable 4chan archive site

It's time to topple the Lenin statue (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689711)

to protest coding standards that require constants to be placed on the left side of an equality comparison, violating 40+ years of traditional practice:

if (0 != nIterations)
{

...
}

Notice that a newline precedes the open curly brace... those same coding standards always require that too.

TOS violation ? (2)

x0ra (1249540) | about 4 months ago | (#45689717)

The real question is: on which ground, that is, on what T.O.S. did the GitHub team acts upon to disable this repository ?

Re:TOS violation ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689765)

Who cares? It's a private company.
They are not obliged to host anything.

Re:TOS violation ? (3, Insightful)

x0ra (1249540) | about 4 months ago | (#45689813)

As a potential customer, I want to know the reason for a provider's behavior. It is a rather basic enterprise's communication 101 teaching. To some extend, you can hardly respect a rule you know nothing about. It's just like a State arresting people without any law to back up the arrest. I know, this is a private company, but it does not mean it should not be explicit about this sort of stuff.

Are you saying feminists can't take a joke? (4, Funny)

Nova Express (100383) | about 4 months ago | (#45689793)

This would not be the first time. Earlier this year, the Extremely Vocal Minority had Locus Online take down my April Fools piece [battleswarmblog.com].

Original feminists had real complaints. Third Wave/Race Critical Theory/Victimhood Identity Politics feminists seem to believe that they have a right not to be offended.

Wow (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45689879)

It's hard to believe Github is dealing with this so terribly after Linus himself had run ins with these militant feminists in the past. So sad, I'll probably be moving over to Bitbucket if they don't shut this project down any time soon.

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