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Google Nabs Bing Maps Architect

timothy posted about 4 months ago | from the now-that's-an-exit-strategy dept.

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theodp writes "In another case of Microsoft's-loss-is-Google's-gain, GeekWire reports that Google has made a big hire from Microsoft, bringing aboard TED crowd-pleaser Blaise Agüera y Arcas, the well-known software architect and designer who was among the Redmond company's elite ranks of distinguished engineers. Known for his work on services including Photosynth and Bing Maps, Agüera y Arcas called the move 'the hardest decision of my life'. A stunning preview of Photosynth was released by Microsoft last week, and TED just released a video of Agüera y Arcas demonstrating the technology at a conference earlier this year."

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Biased language (-1, Troll)

i kan reed (749298) | about 4 months ago | (#45716389)

There's just a lot of "woohoo microsoft" phrasing in this, that makes it feel far too much like an advertisement to actually investigate.

Re:Biased language (1)

dj245 (732906) | about 4 months ago | (#45716981)

There's just a lot of "woohoo microsoft" phrasing in this, that makes it feel far too much like an advertisement to actually investigate.

It seems clear they are saying that this guy worked on some good and interesting projects, not that Microsoft's products are the best evar.

Re:Biased language (1)

icebike (68054) | about 4 months ago | (#45717367)

It seems clear they are saying that this guy worked on some good and interesting projects, not that Microsoft's products are the best evar.

To bad "good and interesting" mapping projects weren't on his resume.

Re:Biased language (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717013)

MS is not cool. I would argue that it was never cool (the desktop was never all that cool) but now it is one of the most uncool hi-tech companies out there. Google can be whatever you want, but, for better or worse, uncool it ain't. MS is a bit like the Cadillac of hit-tech: Few organizations are associated with "old and out of touch" like a Cadillac car or an MS product.

Retaining talent (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716403)

Microsoft pays well, but the way it treats employees is pretty bad. I am so glad I got out of that place.

Re:Retaining talent (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716435)

Google is no different.

It used to be, then they started squeezing harder and harder now it's just a shell of what once was

Looking forward to a new challenger

Not in Silicone Valley (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716707)

Google is no different.

It used to be, then they started squeezing harder and harder now it's just a shell of what once was

Looking forward to a new challenger

The new challengers are gonna come from outside Silicone Valley. Silicone Valley is in the echo chamber of ideas (social media and the pimping of user data for advertizing) and this prejudice of where the next big thing is going to come from (it's only coming from 20 somethings).

Just look at what parts of society that have been lagging in automation and IT services - and I don't mean your typical back office type of stuff - I mean where software innovates an industry like the Sabre system did for airlines back in the 70s.

I got an idea, myself. There's an industry that hasn't been penetrated much by technology because the powers that be were old and stodgy and the allocation of money is totally fucked up. The new kids coming up though, are quite tech savvy and we're already seeing some changes.

By the way, when you hear folks getting laid off from their healthcare job, it's NOT because of Obama care - it's automation.

Yes, that's the industry I am talking about - healthcare and the new young docs don't have a problem with tech.

There are some really big things gonna happen in healthcare soon, but it won't hit us consumers for a while. There are organizations who are going to fight tooth and nail (AMA) to keep things like - having an X-ray tech take your x-ray and send it to a radiologist in India for diagnosis and emailed back to save you and your insurance company a lot of $$$$$. It CAN be done because I worked on that software at a company that is so rich and powerful, McDonald's wouldn't dare sue it for using "Mc".

Just say'in.

Oh, if you think you got some great iOS or Androind medical app, well, do your research. We probably already did it.

Re:Not in Silicone Valley (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716839)

"radiologist in India for diagnosis" hey maybe they can afford toilets then

Re:Not in Silicone Valley (2)

icebike (68054) | about 4 months ago | (#45717415)

"radiologist in India for diagnosis" hey maybe they can afford toilets then

They have better imaginations in India perhaps.
After all it takes a great deal of imagination to read most Xrays, and it its a lost art in this country, its only because
there are so many better imaging technologies that imagining soft tissue shadows in an Xray is simply worth pursuing any more.

Re:Not in Silicone Valley (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717125)

Silicone Valley? What is that? A mammary implants mecca?

Re:Not in Silicone Valley (1)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about 4 months ago | (#45721401)

Silicone Valley? What is that? A mammary implants mecca?

More importantly, where is it? Perhaps a google maps link, good sir?

Silicon, not Silicone Valley (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717693)

You got me there for a moment with all that talk of "penetrated" and "fucked up," I thought you were referring to the San Fernando Valley. You, sir, will certainly benefit from using either Bing or Google maps!

Re:Not in Silicone Valley (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717847)

You're an idiot. First, a radiologist must be licensed to practice medicine in order to make a diagnosis. You find me some doctors in India who are licensed to practice medicine in the USA, and are willing to sit at a desk and look at images all day for such little salary.

Second, do you know how many companies big and small have "Mc" in their name? McData, McGraw, McKesson,... that is just off the top of my head. Unless the rich and powerful company you worked for also happens to sell hamburgers and shakes... McDonald's doesn't give a shit.

I'll bet your "idea" involves an eMR. Am I right? If so, then good fucking luck. You certainly wouldn't be the first one to take a stab and them fuckers.

Re:Retaining talent (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717235)

Google is no different.

It used to be, then they started squeezing harder and harder now it's just a shell of what once was

Looking forward to a new challenger

Once the techie founders become "business suits" the decline is already being signalled to the employees. Google stopped being "cool' long ago; now Google is a data collection source for the NSA and its brethren.

Re:Retaining talent (3, Interesting)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | about 4 months ago | (#45717783)

Once the techie founders become "business suits" the decline is already being signalled to the employees

That usually happens right around the time the founders reach the unpleasant realization that they actually have to make money if they want their corporation to survive.

Re:Retaining talent (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717741)

Microsoft pays well, but the way it treats employees is pretty bad. I am so glad I got out of that place.

Trust me, unless you were a 68, 69, 70 -- you have NO idea how well it pays.

The amount of money a 70 leaves behind on the table when he/she leaves is staggering. The comp ramp gets VERY steep when you get from 66 and up... think total comp in the $600k-$800k range a year... and you're giving up the next five years of stock vesting when you leave.

UFO Sighted near Redmond. (5, Funny)

Kaenneth (82978) | about 4 months ago | (#45716455)

Witnesses described it as 'chair shaped'.

Slashdot bias.... (0, Offtopic)

recoiledsnake (879048) | about 4 months ago | (#45717393)

Funnily, Slashdot doesn't usually report things when it's the other way around(guess why??!!)

This employee could see the Google+ disaster coming from a mile(which actually made some real people cry, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccxiwu4MaJs [youtube.com] )

http://www.informationweek.com/team-building-and-staffing/google-exec-joins-microsoft-trashes-google/d/d-id/1103367 [informationweek.com] ?

Google Exec Joins Microsoft, Trashes Google
Google's focus on social and advertising is killing entrepreneurship and innovation, insists former engineering director James Whittaker.

Slideshow: 10 Essential Google+ Tips
(click image for larger view and for slideshow)
  James Whittaker resigned his engineering director position at Google last month and took a job at Microsoft, where he had worked previously. Then on Tuesday, in a Microsoft Developer Network blog post, he explained his reason for leaving Google: The company has lost its way by blindly trying to compete with Facebook.

  "The Google I was passionate about was a technology company that empowered its employees to innovate," Whittaker wrote. "The Google I left was an advertising company with a single corporate-mandated focus."

  Whittaker's lament recalls the so-called Peanut Butter Manifesto published in 2006 by then-Yahoo SVP Brad Garlinghouse. There's a difference however: Garlinghouse proposed reforms for Yahoo; Whittaker's criticism merely burns a bridge.

  It also echoes a post made by Tim Bray, who upon joining Google in 2010 as an Android developer advocate, took the opportunity to slam Apple's lack of openness (though Bray did not work at Apple).

  And then there's a website devoted to the problems with Windows 8, presented by Mike Bibik, a former Microsoft program manager now at Amazon.

  "Why I Left" is also now playing outside the tech community. Departing Goldman Sachs executive Greg Smith offered a comparable condemnation of his former employer in a New York Times op-ed on Wednesday.

  Perhaps this particular literary form should be known as a "Whine-I-Left" letter.

[ Not everyone believes Google has lost its way. Read DARPA Director Leaving For Google. ]

  Whittaker draws a contrast between Google under former CEO Eric Schmidt and Google under current CEO Larry Page. The Schmidt regime, he asserts, "was run like an innovation factory, empowering employees to be entrepreneurial through founder's awards, peer bonuses and 20% time." Ads, the company's primary source of revenue remained in the background.

  Whittaker appears to believe that ads, like a parent at a teen's party, should remain out of sight, to avoid the embarrassment of exposing who's really in charge.

  Under Page, Whittaker says, Google has devoted itself to making its products social, at the expense of innovation and entrepreneurship. And to make matters worse, Whittaker believes Google's social focus is a failure.

  Google was wrong to claim that sharing on the Web is broken, Whittaker argues. "As it turned out, sharing was not broken," he said. "Sharing was working fine and dandy, Google just wasn't part of it. ... Google was the rich kid who, after having discovered he wasn't invited to the party, built his own party in retaliation. The fact that no one came to Google's party became the elephant in the room."

  Whittaker's pique appears to be tailor made for Microsoft. He acknowledges that he doesn't enjoy the invasiveness of Google's social integration or the company's ads. Microsoft has been talking up Google's disinterest in privacy for years and many people nowadays, particularly legislators, are listening.

  Current and former Google employees have been quick to question Whittaker's motives. In a Google+ post--there are still a few guests at the Google+ party--Andrew Kovacs, once part of Google's public relations team and now an employee of Sequoia Capital, responded with sarcasm: "Microsoftie joins Google for a few years, then leaves to work somewhere more innovative & less focused on competition... Microsoft! ... Oh, and he has a book on how Google tests software coming out soon."

  Google software engineer Thomas Bushnell charged Whittaker with mouthing Microsoft talking points. "If [Whittaker] believed what he said, then he wouldn't have headed for Microsoft, which has the same problems he alleges, but in much grander style," he said in a Google+ comment. "He's rehearsing a set of standard-issue statements, with very little reason to think anything there is his real reason for the move."

  The truth hurts, depending on what you think it is.

Re:Slashdot bias.... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717665)

I remember this guy. This happened more than a year ago.

James Whitaker was a Microsoft exec who left Microsoft to join Google for a bit and then go back to Microsoft at a higher level. His main motive in joining Google was apparently to get a promotion back in Microsoft and to make some money on the side by writing a book. Ridiculous microsoft politics at work. And yes this was covered extensively on slashdot.

Of course recoiledsnake is a well known paid microsoft shill who will misrepresent facts.

Re:Slashdot bias.... (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about 4 months ago | (#45717855)

Of course recoiledsnake is a well known paid microsoft shill who will misrepresent facts.

Anonymous name-calling isn't very convincing. If you want to dis someone, put your name behind your words so we can see what your own agenda might be.

Re:Slashdot bias.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45718745)

Huh? Just check recoiledsnake's comment history. You don't need my name for that.

Dissing anonymous comments just for the sake of dissing them is very hacker newsy. Welcome to slashdot where things work a little differently and people judge comments by their merit instead of whether they are made by anonymous perosnas. Also you have a handle. Not a name. So you are as anonymous as I am.

Re:Slashdot bias.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45719013)

On the other hand, "paid microsoft shill" is the first refuge of a scoundrel. Unless you've got the payroll check, shut the fuck up.

Re:Slashdot bias.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45720493)

Oh Jesus, now he's talking to himself.

Re:Slashdot bias.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45719177)

Welcome to slashdot where things work a little differently and people judge comments by their merit instead of whether they are made by anonymous perosnas.

Oh yes, clearly! Let us not rebut or refute comments we don't agree with, it is easier to just call the commenter a "paid shill", this gets you upmodded!

If you have the time to respond to call somebody a "paid shill" then you have time to rebut their argument, and if you can't then obviously they have a point and you just don't like it. The "paid shill" response is the go-to comment of the angry mental defective.

Re:Slashdot bias.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45720533)

Shit n hellfire, it isn't like we're debating the existence of the Higgs. Be a little curious and explore on your own: click the name of the user and check their comment history. If you find nothing, then whatever. If you find something, then still whatever. Cause again, not like it's that fucking important.

Re:Slashdot bias.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45720961)

That's right, dumbfuck. Checking comment history will prove someone is a "paid microsoft shill". Well, maybe for you it will.

Re:Slashdot bias.... (1)

recoiledsnake (879048) | about 4 months ago | (#45720351)

Huh? Just check recoiledsnake's comment history. You don't need my name for that.

Dissing anonymous comments just for the sake of dissing them is very hacker newsy. Welcome to slashdot where things work a little differently and people judge comments by their merit instead of whether they are made by anonymous perosnas . Also you have a handle. Not a name. So you are as anonymous as I am.

So why not apply that to my post as well instead of judging it by looking at my previous posts? If you think someone gets paid to post on this dying site, you are completely mistaken, at least in my case.

Anonymous users calling registered handles paid shills is exactly like pot calling the kettle black. I dared to put a handle on my post and I am taking the karma hit, while you're just taking potshots while being too cowardly to even register or use your real handle. How can you call into question my comment history while making sure yours is not visible? You're probably a paid Google or Apple shill trying to hide their many postiive comments about them !!!

Re:Slashdot bias.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45721257)

Ha ha...Butthurt microsoft shills. Where's my popcorn?

Re:Slashdot bias.... (1)

mystikkman (1487801) | about 4 months ago | (#45718723)

His main motive in joining Google was apparently to get a promotion back in Microsoft and to make some money on the side by writing a book. Ridiculous microsoft politics at work

Nice way to slander someone who you don't even know, while not even being signed into Slashdot. Add the karma bonus for accusing OP of being a paid MS = +5 INTERESTING!!!!

The same old chair jokes and MS bashing in most of the posts and modding down any contrary comments and destroying their karma, guess I am not the only one getting bored with the echo chamber and the circlejerk, from the past few years Slashdot activity and readership seems to be dropping a like a rock.

Re:Slashdot bias.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45721823)

Who says I don't know him?

Re:Slashdot bias.... (2)

icebike (68054) | about 4 months ago | (#45717959)

In your rush to post something Anti-Google, you totally missed the point of the very article you posted.

It wasn't even about Google. It was about ship-jumping techies scorching the earth as they head for the exit, regardless of what company they were leaving.
The most telling quote in the article: Whittaker's criticism merely burns a bridge.

What you are seeing here is the petulant child syndrome of someone who didn't get their way, or was passed over for promotion. Its not the way a grown-up leaves a job.

Re:Slashdot bias.... (1)

recoiledsnake (879048) | about 4 months ago | (#45718347)

My intent wasn't to post something anti-Google, it's to show that people move all the time, and it's not particularly newsworthy. For example here's an article from a few years ago which showed some people moving from Google to Microsoft.

http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2008/06/29/TheGOOGMSFTExodusWorkingAtGoogleVsWorkingAtMicrosoft.aspx [25hoursaday.com]

Re:Slashdot bias.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45721849)

Aren't you a Microsoft shill? Didn't Mark Penn tell you to post pro-ms and anti-google stuff here?

Re:Slashdot bias.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45721135)

Mostly sore losers around here's why: Linux never did well on PC's and Servers combined vs. Windows (which is why the Penguins went chasing smartphones - only thing that made ANDROID viable was the cost-per-phone unit savings since the OS is given away freely). They're calling you a shill. Lol, there are no BIGGER SHILLS than the bullshitters around here in these done zero 'penguins' in computing. They will lie to no end (anyone that's been around here for years as I have remember the nigh constant "linux is invulnerable to attack" type b.s. that went around here for ages - funny how ANDROID of all things shows how much bullshit that REALLY was, considering it's being infected by malwares of all kinds faster than Windows was in the same timeframe, lol). Remember: They've been spouting their b.s. so long, they actually BELIEVE it. They couldn't achieve anything decent in the world of Windows (which is 95% of the personal computers out there mind you) so they tried linux, and failed there too. Consider the idiots you're dealing with around here. They are, idiots and failures.

Re:Slashdot bias.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45746285)

Linux owns every computing market except desktops.

For every Android exploit there are 10,000 Windows exploits and it is Android apps, not the Linux kernel that is vulnerable.

Re:Slashdot bias.... (1)

rtb61 (674572) | about 4 months ago | (#45722823)

I would and always will give precedence for individuals comments over corporate public relations. I read them quite simply as ex-insider frustration, nothing more and nothing less. These people are not burning bridges, they are expressing what would need to change for them to return. Once you have left a company why maintain that companies Public Relations (PR=B$) charade, why not critique it.

You whole point of being subservient and servile to corporations once you have been employed by the them is pathetic. FUCK EM, hate the company you work for, if it rocks your boat, publicly tear em a new one, whether you are currently working for them, you have quit or you are already working somewhere else. Gees, what the fuck, corporations are not gods we must fucking worship.

Re:UFO Sighted near Redmond. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45718367)

Of course, all the comments on the blog are strictly censored.

Here is mine:
Are there "grand ambitions and brilliant people" at google? If so they are a minortiy. Why is google still only investing in languages like pyhton and GO? I mean even some old language like smalltalk (i.e., “newspeaklanguage.org”) is a good idea considering that. Expescially, since they could have invested in haskell like 10–15 years ago? Even the shitty companies like Standard Chartered Bank and game programmers (e.g., John D. Carmack) got the memo? I mean Google is just slightly better than the worst companies of the world (i.e., Oracle, Microsoft, Apel). The real grand ambitions and brilliant people usually don’t sell their Soul for money(!) like Linus Torvalds.

Decieve Enveil Obfuscate (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716515)

Someone should take off their heads !

[wdw]

Let's just get this straight (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716573)

he left because he hates Windows 8.

Not just Windows 8 (3, Interesting)

BenJeremy (181303) | about 4 months ago | (#45716953)

Actually, I heard he hates Visual Studio 2012 even more. Something about using bland, similar monochromatic icons tends to bother people who work with image processing and innovate the field using all that wonderful color information in those images.

Same difference though... some idiot exec at Microsoft has decided the world needs Fisher-price Playschool operating systems and development tools.

Re:Not just Windows 8 (1)

scottnix (951749) | about 4 months ago | (#45717157)

I'm using 2013 now. They smartened up and added more color to most of the icons. It's an improvement but still no VS 2008.

Google hurting itself (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716585)

Turns Google into a dumping ground, it does.

Re:Google hurting itself (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716695)

Foolproof bidness strat:

Point Google Search results at Google Search

time for 3 martini lunch!

Re:Google hurting itself (2)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 4 months ago | (#45716833)

MS always had talent. The problem was that MS wasted it with a corporate structure that promoted intracompany fighting rather than cooperation.

Re:Google hurting itself (3, Insightful)

Alomex (148003) | about 4 months ago | (#45717505)

It also was overloaded with fresh-undergraduate talent. However some tasks require a substantial number of people with significant experience, yet Microsoft only rarely went after them. In at least some cases the sole reason they hired talent was to silence them (Mark Russinovich I'm looking at you) not to benefit from them.

Their search engine effort is notorious for the lack of inside experts, and the person in charge is, as best as I understand, a non-techie.

Re:Google hurting itself (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45718623)

>the person in charge is, as best as I understand, a non-techie.

Qi Lu has a Ph.D in CS from CMU, so no.

Re:Google hurting itself (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45725507)

Judging by the nonsense we had from a CMU Masters graduate here the other day I'm not sure that's necessarily meaningful. Whilst CMU has turned out some smart people, it's pretty obviously not consistent in the slightest. Therefore, you could have a qualification and still be retarded as someone managed to prove the other day.

Musical Chairs (1)

middlemen (765373) | about 4 months ago | (#45716651)

I am waiting for the headline that Ballmer has decided to move to Google !!!!

Re:Musical Chairs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716729)

Even Google needs janitors.

Re:Musical Chairs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717145)

Yes. Ballmer is such a failure with his seventeen billion dollars...

Re:Musical Chairs (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717617)

So, any company wanting the opportunity to move billions of dollars into Ballmer's pockets in return for visionary leadership like... making the Zune? ... should hire Ballmer. The primary thing Monkey Boy has ever shown success at is grabbing cash from other people and stuffing it in his own wallet, to the order of billions of dollars --- perhaps not a useful return on investment, unlike the highly valuable services performed by janitors. What has Ballmer done to make the world a better place, rather than 17 billion dollars poorer and fearful of flying chairs?

Re:Musical Chairs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716741)

That would be the first good thing Ballmer did for Microsoft

Re:Musical Chairs (1)

rwyoder (759998) | about 4 months ago | (#45717181)

I am waiting for the headline that Ballmer has decided to move to Google !!!!

Why do you hate Google? :-(

Re: Musical Chairs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717345)

Because: Google

Stunning preview? (0)

wiredlogic (135348) | about 4 months ago | (#45716677)

The new Photosynth looks less impressive than the original one that allowed you to move arbitrarily around a point cloud. What they have now is less sophisticated than Google street view and essentially pointless with the ubiquitous availability of video recorders.

Re:Stunning preview? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716781)

Google Streetview is realised with equipment $200k (Car, GPS, Lidar, IMU), while Photosynth is done with public pictures on the web, most likely taken with cameras around $1k.

Re:Stunning preview? (2)

YesIAmAScript (886271) | about 4 months ago | (#45717265)

Google also does that. They integrate panoramia pictures in some locations.

Go to "Old Tucson Studios" in google maps (not the preview). Grab the man and drag him to a spot on the map. You will get pictures of the different buildings. In some you can click on other areas which will transition to another picture a different person too. You can move around like this. It's all from public pictures.

Google hasn't integrated this into the preview yet, so they clearly don't know what to do with it yet.

Re:Stunning preview? (1)

XcepticZP (1331217) | about 4 months ago | (#45723995)

Are you insane? This is leaps and bounds better than the stuff you find in streetview. They extract common objects out of images and move them out of a 2D plane and into the 3D space. If anything, this would be amazing if added to streetview.

I was going through some of the new synths, and I truly felt like I was walking through a 3d environment.

Photosynth invented moving pictures! (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716687)

WOW! I'm impressed with the new photosynth moving pictures. Seems almost like a video, only crappier.

Seriously I was expecting to be able to float around the target like in MeshLab or something. This new photosynth is just crummy video. What's so cool about that?

Re:Photosynth invented moving pictures! (1)

Albanach (527650) | about 4 months ago | (#45717045)

Have you seen many videos where the user can pan at will or zoom in on important details without loss of resolution?

Photosynth looks like video, but pretty clearly has benefits video can't offer. Of course video also has strengths where photosynth is weak - the two aren't really competitors.

I heard (0)

JustOK (667959) | about 4 months ago | (#45716703)

I heard he got fired already. He tried to use Siri to get directions to his new office. He's in Belgium now.

'the hardest decision of my life' (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716765)

Some people really don't have any real problems.

If the hardest decision is whether to work for one nasty tech gorilla or another slightly younger but turning out just as nasty tech gorilla, you've never really done anything of relevance to humankind.

Re: 'the hardest decision of my life' (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717041)

So are you saying that research is worthless, or are you saying that you can't do good engineering work before you have left your dying wife bleeding out in a warzone to get your son to safety or something?

Re: 'the hardest decision of my life' (1)

Blackknight (25168) | about 4 months ago | (#45718257)

If you mean other than having a direct effect on millions of web users then yeah, he's done nothing for mankind.

Re: 'the hardest decision of my life' (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45719059)

"Having a direct effect on millions of web users" is not only a low bar, but one not inherently positive.

YO1U FAIL IT (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716931)

dying. AAl major

Good for him. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45716933)

From everything (and I mean it, everything) I read about working conditions and the environment in Microsoft, it's a place unfriendly to creative guys, and those who question authority. In general, it seems an unhealthy place to work, regardless of the good salary.

Re:Good for him. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717637)

That's because all you read is slashdot

Re:Good for him. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45718305)

There's some truth to it. Success at MS requires an equal measure of technical talent and skill at shameless, naked self-promotion. Managers will openly tell you so. If you're not willing to stomach self-promotion or are (*gasp*) introverted, the MS performance review system will kick you in the balls repeatedly until they boot you out the door.

Re:Good for him. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717787)

From everything (and I mean it, everything) I read about working conditions and the environment in Microsoft, it's a place unfriendly to creative guys, and those who question authority. In general, it seems an unhealthy place to work, regardless of the good salary.

Its a vastly different world when you're a partner level or higher in the org... DE's are the equivalent level of a corporate VP, with comp that mirrors that.

IMO, if you're reading that, you're reading it from people who are probably stuck in a dead end team eight levels below DE... there's a "62 death trap" at Microsoft where mediocre engineers get stuck. The bar to get out of "SDEII" to "Senior SDE" is pretty high, and you're absolutely going to be a small cog in a machine you have no control over when you're at that level. (And the majority of SDEs at MS are SDEII).

But low-level grunt sucks to be in anywhere.

Very nice demo videos... (1)

unique_parrot (1964434) | about 4 months ago | (#45716965)

...I am waiting for for a free programm and an adapter, where you snap an android phone to the new kinect, connect it to a battery pack and record really impressive 3d scenes (hopefully it get's exported as an usable 3d format)!

Bring back the Wikipedia location-based entries (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717215)

That's nice, but can we please bring the Wikipedia location-based entries back to Google Maps?

Overrated (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717323)

I used to work with this guy and he is incredibly overrated. He's been the architect of Bing Maps for 5 years. What earth shattering innovations has he led in that time? Somebody above mentioned that this 'incredible' v2 Photosynth 1) isn't even as good as v1 and 2) has never been developed into anything more useful than a TED demo. He worked on the same team as Gur Kimchi, the guy behind the Amazon delivery drones. Between the two of them, they are the king and queen of vaporware. Neither one produced a damn thing in 6 years at Microsoft, so fuck it Google can have him. He's a one man hype machine.

Re:Overrated (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717771)

Fits well with Google's overall plan to be a one-company hype machine. After all, the hype is all they've got to keep the masses from realizing they're just another bunch of slimy megacorporate advertising/surveillance goons at heart. A few flashy high-profile demo projects will keep public attention away from the fact that Google's sole profitable business model is discovering how to push more convincing advertising propaganda lies into every crevice of your life.

Re:Overrated (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45723317)

Sour grapes ha

Hardest Decision He Ever Made? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717335)

Google: We want you. Here's a million dollars.

Agüera y Arcas: Okay.

Mod down the malcontents! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717603)

Somebody has the gall to point out that this guy is not all we prop him up as being and they get modded to oblivion. Go ahead slashdot create your own narrative, one that fits your world view.

INCOMING... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45717759)

...Chair flying weather reported in redmond, WA...

Photosynth demos look nice, but... (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 4 months ago | (#45717985)

The Photosynth demos look nice, but surely there's a point where it becomes simpler just to shoot an HD video of your "walk" (or "spin") rather than having to reconstruct all those intermediate frames?

Photosynth may be useful if you didn't think of that beforehand, but since those demo images were presumably taken specifically to demonstrate Photosynth, it seems a bit of a waste of time - like demonstrating your colourisation program on a black and white version of a colour movie.

Re:Photosynth demos look nice, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45718163)

Maybe they'll begin selling TVs that interpolate between frames to give a smoother picture?

Re:Photosynth demos look nice, but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45718569)

It would be difficult to shoot a video as smooth as the Photosynth result. The path through the pictures can be calculated to be smooth because the intermediate frames are calculated using image based rendering (some form of lumigraph). A video could be smoothed the same way, but then that's just a Photosynth with more pictures, isn't it? Another important aspect is that the pictures don't even have to be all from the same camera, taken in one session. Photosynth can produce similar results from collections of photos taken by many different people at many different times.

Re:Photosynth demos look nice, but... (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 4 months ago | (#45720281)

Another important aspect is that the pictures don't even have to be all from the same camera, taken in one session.

I know they can be, but that's not the case with these demos. They've gone to great lengths to give Photosynth great input - but by doing so they're entirely failing to demonstrate Photosynth's true strengths (which, in another inversion, won't give you results as good as the demos).

Re:Photosynth demos look nice, but... (1)

citizenr (871508) | about 4 months ago | (#45719995)

You realize there is a 3D model build in the background, right?
You get nice pictures, simulated walk video AND a 3D model of a place.

"Hardest decision of his life" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45718199)

I can picture how his reasoning went:

"Should I work for the NSA, or should I work for the NSA? This is one hard decision."

Environmentally friendly (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about 4 months ago | (#45720047)

> the hardest decision of my life

Cut the guy some slack. You environmentalists should love him -- I'm sure his decision was very, very Green.

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