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Data Broker Medbase200 Sold Lists of Rape & Domestic Violence Victims

Soulskill posted about 4 months ago | from the stay-classy dept.

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McGruber writes "During her testimony (PDF) at a Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation hearing Wednesday about the data-broker industry, Pam Dixon, executive director of the World Privacy Forum, revealed that the Medbase200 unit of Integrated Business Services Incorporated had been offering a list of 'rape sufferers' on its website, at a cost of $79 for 1,000 names. The company, which sells marketing information to pharmaceutical companies, also offered lists of domestic violence victims, HIV/AIDS patients, and 'peer pressure sufferers.' In an interview with the Wall Street Journal, Integrated Business Services Incorporated President Sam Tartamella initially denied that his company maintained or sold databases of rape victims. After the Journal provided him a link to the 'rape sufferers' page, he said he would remove it from Medbase200's website and denied ever having sold such a list. The page was removed later Wednesday."

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speaking of lists (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45749893)

The SEC database 'EDGAR' lists corporations, and required information are the names and contact information for corporate officers.....
Just so you know that THEIR names are on lists, too.....

Re:speaking of lists (1)

Kvasio (127200) | about 4 months ago | (#45749925)

are you suggesting that SEC list should be "synchronised" with rape victim list, you little dirty boy?

Re:speaking of lists (1)

BradMajors (995624) | about 4 months ago | (#45750123)

Executives usually provide the contact information of their lawyers, not their personal contact information.

Big Data should be banned (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45749899)

You don't need to know this information and you especially don't need to know this information in aggregate.

Re:Big Data should be banned (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750003)

This. In any sane society, pretty much all modern data-aggregating and mining activity right up to Google's and the NSA's activity would be outlawed.

And, yeah, that would spoil both of their business plans.

And, that's right, it's not society's job to protect profit vehicles.

Re:Big Data should be banned (4, Insightful)

Stormy Dragon (800799) | about 4 months ago | (#45750329)

So you want to ban the study of entire fields like sociology and economics, as well as things like the testing of new pharmaceuticals?

Re:Big Data should be banned (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750635)

And why would any of that need personal information of the people on these lists?

Re:Big Data should be banned (1)

Stormy Dragon (800799) | about 4 months ago | (#45750739)

The commenter proposed banning all data aggregation. It's hard to do any sort of study of large groups of people if you can't at some point collect and aggregate data about all the individuals involved.

Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (4, Insightful)

tekrat (242117) | about 4 months ago | (#45749915)

I think I'm starting a business which will sell data on the 1% to anyone who wants it. It's time to even the odds.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45749951)

i'd pay for list of there home addresses and schools there children attend

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750027)

You might want to attend school and learn to spell.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750147)

AC on AC action!

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750125)

Do they sell a list of pedophiles and rapists too? Oh wait, that's free from the government. Down with the repressive sex offender registry; Megan's Law is socialism!

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

holophrastic (221104) | about 4 months ago | (#45750009)

I'm in. Great idea. What do you need from me? A customer? An investor? A researcher? A developer?

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 4 months ago | (#45750765)

What do you need from me?

Just your name, address, favourite pet's name and cup size.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750847)

What do you need from me?

Just your name, address, favourite pet's name and cup size.

Anonymous Coward
127.0.0.1
Tux
16 FL. Oz.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (5, Interesting)

MRe_nl (306212) | about 4 months ago | (#45750077)

Slashdot IS the 1%: You need just $34,000 annual income to be in the global elite.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (5, Interesting)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 4 months ago | (#45750193)

Slashdot IS the 1%: You need just $34,000 annual income to be in the global elite.

I find that number to be wrong on many levels.

First, 1% of the population is about 70M people.

You're telling me that out of the population of the US, Canada and Western Europe, that only 70M of those people make more then $34,000?

If they were all Americans, that means 3 out of every 4 Americans make less than $34,000, a number I feel is high, especially when you add in the populations of Western Europe.

Additionally, I would think a there would be a significant number of those people in say, China (where income inequality is HUGE)..

I would believe the number is much closer to the top 5-8% of the population makes $34,000+.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750315)

US, Canada and Western Europe

Uhhhh... there are many more places in the world than that. The OP is right - if you're here, you're most likely part of the global 1%.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (4, Insightful)

Valdrax (32670) | about 4 months ago | (#45750439)

Uhhhh... there are many more places in the world than that. The OP is right - if you're here, you're most likely part of the global 1%.

The total population of the US, Canada, and the EU, as of 2008 is 550 million people out of a total global population of about 6.7 billion. 8% > 1%.

Of course, this is an irrelevant distraction, because the phrase "the 1%" was coined to cover the top 1% of Americans, not the world.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750505)

Eh, the guy you're arguing with probably has no problem asserting that the millions of unemployed could all occupy the hundreds of thousands of jobs if they would just get off their fat lazy asses and work.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

Filter (6719) | about 4 months ago | (#45750669)

BTW, ball park numbers from the top of my head:

EU 500,000,000
US 330,000,000
CAN 35,000,000

Total ~865,000,000

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (2)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about 4 months ago | (#45751501)

damn right!

I may be '1%' compared to some poor schuck in india or china but I'm not even close to 1% in my own country, where the comparison really matters.

those who shift the argument to 'world-wide' are intellectually dishonest.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 4 months ago | (#45750405)

You're telling me that out of the population of the US, Canada and Western Europe, that only 70M of those people make more then $34,000?

That wouldn't surprise me too much. The inverse of the Labor Force Participation Rate (actual unemployment, as opposed to the reported unemployment statistic based on Americans eligible to receive unemployment benefits — it has run out for most Americans) is over 30% in the USA. And our populations are aging into retirement.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (2, Funny)

PraiseBob (1923958) | about 4 months ago | (#45750553)

Welcome to the global elite. Don't worry, thanks to geography and luck, you don't even have to be good at math.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

Rob Riggs (6418) | about 4 months ago | (#45750871)

The top 1% in 2011 earned $47,500 (individual income) according to the web site cited below. That means that a family of 2 adults would need to make $95,000/yr to fall into the global 1%. For a family with 2 kids, a dog and a hamster, that total grows to $190,000/yr. Remember kids, this is individual income distribution across all people, not family income distribution or anything like that.

Here is the source: http://www.globalrichlist.nl/how.asp [globalrichlist.nl]

Not a too many American families make it into the global 1% any more.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about 4 months ago | (#45750937)

In the United States 25% of the >15 year old population has a personal income > $50K

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_income_in_the_United_States [wikipedia.org] .25 * 234 x 10^6 = 58.5 x 10^6.

That's 0.8% of the world population.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (2)

Rob Riggs (6418) | about 4 months ago | (#45751317)

In the United States 25% of the >15 year old population has a personal income > $50K

You are mixing per-capita income (mine) with the income of wage earners (yours). That is the same misleading comparison the web site I linked to was tempting potential donors with.

A clearer picture can be had by looking here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States [wikipedia.org]

The first big table has "household income" as well as "household size". This shows that one needs to be near the top 10% before you get to "$47,500 per capita" rate that is considered "the global 1%".

I am not downplaying the fact that the U.S. has a lot of wealth compared to the rest of the world. But some of the numbers thrown around are used in a misleading manner. For example, the site I linked to above was trying to get wage earners to compare their personal or household income with some "global per capita wage" and not asking for their household wage and number of household members, which would be a more fair comparison.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about 4 months ago | (#45751531)

I used the 2nd table which provides a straight histogram of the number of individuals in a particular income range. Per capita doesn't come into it at all.

The household income table is much more difficult to interpret in this context.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

Actually, I do RTFA (1058596) | about 4 months ago | (#45751087)

Not a too many American families make it into the global 1% any more.

Well, the US is ~5% of the world population. So I'd imagine 1/5 Americans would be the upper limit.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

Ralph Wiggam (22354) | about 4 months ago | (#45750351)

I've heard $44k, but your point stands. If you have sole use of a car, you're pretty much a huge baller by global standards.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (0, Troll)

Tom (822) | about 4 months ago | (#45750411)

You probably only need DNA, or be alive, or have a carbon atom inside your body to be in the solar or galactic elite.

Local comparisons are usually more meaningful than global ones. Yes, it helps to remind ourselves that we're not living in a slum with no electricity and water, but "someone else is worse" is a really horrible argument against social inequality.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

MRe_nl (306212) | about 4 months ago | (#45751191)

"Someone else is (has it?)worse" is a really horrible argument against social inequality? With ~two billion people living of off 2 dollars a day or less, with no chance of any meaningful education or healthcare, I believe it to be a rather strong argument. Global is local, it's a tiny planet in my opinion as member of the galactic elite : ).

Apropos world military expenditure in 2012 totalled $1753 billion, around 2.5% of world GDP.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (5, Interesting)

H0p313ss (811249) | about 4 months ago | (#45751449)

Sometime around the age of 12 one of my children commented "I wish we were rich."

I stopped the car and turned around, "We are rich." I said

"Both your mother and I both earn enough money to have a house and a car. You are always clothed and fed, you never go to bed hungry and cold. You get to travel, play sports and get a good education. Nobody forces you to work, ever. You don't have to fetch water just to survive, morning noon and night"

"Remember that there are tens of millions of people around the world who have none of these things, and you have them all."

I turned around and continued driving.

Years later my daughter reminded me of the conversation and how it had triggered a kind of awakening.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750113)

No, it's time to change the copyright laws so the subject of information has joint ownership of copyright on the information, with no implicit licensing. In other words, if you collect data about me in the course of our business relationship, it's private, and you may not retransmit it without my explicit, informed consent.

Captcha: nausea (how appropriate)

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

Stormy Dragon (800799) | about 4 months ago | (#45750407)

So you think Integrated Business Services ought to be allowed to take legal action against Pam Dixon for releasing information about them without having gotten their explicted informed consent first?

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750513)

Nope, they're a business entity. The copyright on personal information should apply to real people only.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (2)

Stormy Dragon (800799) | about 4 months ago | (#45750573)

It still hobbles the ability of whistle blowers and reporters to inform the public. For example, Toronto Star reporters Kevin Donovan and Robyn Doolittle could be arrested for revealing the video of Rob Ford smoking crack without his permission.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750769)

That's a legitimate concern. I would concede that some implicit license should be given for information that is of significant public interest vs. purely commercial interest. There's also a difference between publishing information vs. selling it privately.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 4 months ago | (#45751177)

I would concede that some implicit license should be given for information that is of significant public interest vs. purely commerce

Well at the very least, let's leave enough vagueness in it so the interpretation can be argued by scholars of the law.

What the hell kind of World will we have if they slip out of the 1%.

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750121)

This has existed since the 19th century in the US. It's called "The Social Register."

Their website is here: http://www.socialregisteronline.com/

CAPTACH: existing

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (1)

Em Adespoton (792954) | about 4 months ago | (#45750221)

I think I'm starting a business which will sell data on the 1% to anyone who wants it. It's time to even the odds.

Crowdfund it....

Re:Time to sell List of CEOs home addresses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750497)

It's called a "B2B List" and any marketing list vendor will sell it to you.

The Real Crime Here... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45749933)

The real crime here is $79 for a 1,000 name list. I'll bet they claimed that they were all verified opt-in too.

Re:The Real Crime Here... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750887)

Verified opt-in....there's a rape joke in there somewhere...

How Fucked is That??? (3, Funny)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 4 months ago | (#45749953)

Medbase200 unit of Integrated Business Services Incorporated had been offering a list of 'rape sufferers' on its website, at a cost of $79 for 1,000 names. The company, which sells marketing information to pharmaceutical companies, also offered lists of domestic violence victims, HIV/AIDS patients, and 'peer pressure sufferers.'

Well, I don't know about the rest of you, but I'm going ahead and putting in my application with Uncle Enzo's CosaNostra Pizza Corporation...

HIPPA? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45749981)

How is this even possible with the entire medical privacy laws. I understand data might be important to further medical science but shouldn't it be sanitized of identifying information? And if it is not, then shouldn't the patients being exposed be compensated for this use? It is not like something so heavily regulated like medical industry can offer real choices for alternatives. I've seen counties deny hospitals planned on being built just so the one already in place could expand right after they fought tooth and nail to stop the competition.

It's complete BS if you ask me.

Re:HIPPA? (1)

pitchpipe (708843) | about 4 months ago | (#45750181)

HIPPA?

How is this even possible with the entire medical privacy laws.

Maybe you didn't get the memo? The government has stopped abiding by the law. Corporations have quit abiding by the law. Apparently these morons lack the imagination to figure out what happens as you extrapolate out what will occur when everyone quits abiding by the law.

Re:HIPPA? (1)

whoever57 (658626) | about 4 months ago | (#45750767)

How is this even possible with the entire medical privacy laws

Don't worry, I expect that the names were extracted from examining metadata, so that makes it legal (According to Feinstein, Obama and the NSA).

Utterly despicable (4, Insightful)

Chas (5144) | about 4 months ago | (#45749989)

As if these poor peoples' lives weren't already shitty enough.
Now we have a bunch of marketeer ass-hats singling them out as unique business opportunities.
Yet again, making me wish I owned a gun, yet glad I don't, since I'd shoot these motherfuckers in a heartbeat.

Re:Utterly despicable (5, Interesting)

jhumkey (711391) | about 4 months ago | (#45750091)

I remember as a teenager, my mother telling about a miscarriage she had a few years after I was born (too young to remember). Apparently they did a D&C afterwards (to scrap residue off the walls). But, hospitals (at that time at least) must've listed some Abortions as D&C's.
(At the time of the conversation) its 13+ years later and someone had just stolen some hospital records and was harrasing recent D&C patients for "having Abortions" . . .
She was horror struck at what it must've been like, for those "want to be mothers", still suffering the tragedy of having lost a child unwillingly . . . to have some dipwad confront them and accuse them of having an Abortion.
Patient records should be sacrosanct for a reason.

Re:Utterly despicable (2)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about 4 months ago | (#45750495)

My wife had a miscarriage like this.

Dipwad isn't the right word. I don't think human language is capable of expressing what this triggers in me.

Re:Utterly despicable (2)

Chas (5144) | about 4 months ago | (#45750549)

Usually it's a non-verbal expression...

It starts with a clenching of the fists...and ends with the bastard basically homogenized over every surface within eyesight.

Psst... wanna buy a list? (1)

srussia (884021) | about 4 months ago | (#45750183)

Yet again, making me wish I owned a gun, yet glad I don't, since I'd shoot these motherfuckers in a heartbeat.

79 bucks gets you a gun catalog and a list of these Mofos.

Re:Utterly despicable (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45751279)

99% of these cunts will be talking about it on twiter, pintrest, or whatever the fuck social media fat dykes use these days. AIDS patients are pretty easy to spot too. Just follow the leaking shit trails.

Not surprised (2)

benjfowler (239527) | about 4 months ago | (#45750033)

You have to expect this, when the only legal and moral duty that directors and managers of their companies are to look after their shareholders. And even then, the shareholders get raped by the boss class.

As a society, we reap what we sow, when we let them get sufficiently powerful, that they can simply buy favourable laws and regulations and tell the world to get fucked.

This will be the undoing of Western civilisation -- our inability to contain the power of a feral, out-of-control overclass.

Uh, why are you blaming us? (1)

rsilvergun (571051) | about 4 months ago | (#45750175)

isn't the 'boss class' to blame? Seriously, Western Civilization really does seem to revel in self flagellation. Like a rape victim blaming themselves, which is weirdly appropriate (ironic? I can't remember the actual meaning of that word though... )

Re:Uh, why are you blaming us? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750917)

Because we allow them to get away with it. We're too chicken-shit to start any kind of revolution that would put these people back in their place because we like our X-Box, HBO, internet forums, doughnuts, and the rest of the pile of consumerism to stop them.
We also let the politicians pretend that abortion, gay rights, marijuana legality, and such are more important than income inequality and naked political corruption. So we've failed at revolution, and we've failed at political engagement with the actual problems of our governments that have caused revolution to become a reasonable course of action here.

I want to get off Mr. Bones Wild Ride (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750037)

Please. It's not fun anymore.

To all those who reply to privacy concerns... (4, Insightful)

cervesaebraciator (2352888) | about 4 months ago | (#45750067)

with, "if you've nothing to hide," I hope this will make you consider how much privacy has to do with simple human dignity.

Re:To all those who reply to privacy concerns... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750083)

with, "if you've nothing to hide," I hope this will make you consider how much privacy has to do with simple human dignity.

The subject line is for the subject, not the first half sentence of the content. Okay? Thanks.

Re:To all those who reply to privacy concerns... (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 4 months ago | (#45750087)

The people who say that obviously don't know enough about themselves.

With a USC so dense that even the feds themselves admit they have no way of knowing everything they've criminalized.

Re:To all those who reply to privacy concerns... (1)

thejynxed (831517) | about 4 months ago | (#45750667)

Back in the late 1980's, the USC stood at over 300 (and grows by an average of 25 volumes per year) hardbound volumes of regulations, laws, and suggested penalties of around an average of 800 pages per volume. The indexes themselves stood at 26 volumes of a bit smaller size, and included the names of the Congress members who submitted, amended, voted for/against/abstained each as well as vote totals for each by party.

On a sidenote: The books are of such a size, that if laid end-to-end at that time, they would have gone from Washington DC to New York City, New York. The volumes are not the typical size of your average hardbound novel, for sure.

Re:To all those who reply to privacy concerns... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750107)

Not to mention safety. I was an IT contractor for a community outreach group that ran a number of safe homes for victims of rape and domestic violence. The addresses of those houses was very, very closely guarded, and the security measures in place to keep everything under wraps was dialed up to 11. Any lapses could potentially cost someone their life. Anyone responsible for selling this info needs to be locked up for a good, long time, and the articles of incorporation should be immediately dissolved.

Re:To all those who reply to privacy concerns... (2)

SpaceManFlip (2720507) | about 4 months ago | (#45750271)

you eloquent bastard, you have simply nailed the paradigm, and I applaud your truthiness

Also for the other person mentioning doing IT work for rape shelter stuff - I bet it wouldn't be very hard to find volunteer armed guards for those types of safe houses. I personally, having known a few abuse victims, would view sitting around with a shotgun to ward off rapist/beaters as an honorable task. That would be a good community-outreach-volunteer program to get going in a lot of places: volunteer rape victim guard services etc

Re: To all those who reply to privacy concerns... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750653)

Except that it would then make these places easier to find...

Re: To all those who reply to privacy concerns... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45751137)

It's a rape shelter, not a bug-out shelter. It's a public service. It's already easy to find. Or else it would be useless.

Re: To all those who reply to privacy concerns... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45751407)

It's a rape shelter, not a bug-out shelter. It's a public service. It's already easy to find. Or else it would be useless.

(-1: Clueless). Only the front-end needs to be easy to find. The actual physical location of the shelters needs to be as hard to find as possible.

Re: To all those who reply to privacy concerns... (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 4 months ago | (#45751215)

Exactly. And if the powers that be allowed for community service hours to be worked off in this fashion, there would be a run on drunken collisions with the police station.

Anyone else numbed by this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750069)

I want to say I'm surprised by this, but I honestly can't say that I am. Between credit card purchases, age and sex demographics, location and time metadata, this is just one more list that is being bought and sold for someone elses benefit. One would think, that some things are even immune to the corporate and advertising whore machine, but apparently even the sexually and physically abused can't catch a break.

Personally, I think this only continues to highlight the real underlying problem with America; privacy. You really have none. Well, you might have a fair amount inside your head, and within reason, the ability to travel and purchase goods, but anything beyond the virtual seems to have exponentially increasing risk. Regardless of your perceived privacy, the line is continuously being blurred between Government, and corporate, and it appears that everyones personal history, is on the market for purchase. I really have to wonder just what the elected officials in our Government have to hide, since they've been all but silent on well, everything.

I'd like to think the 4th amendment isn't completely dead and buried, since I believe individual liberty and privacy are undeniably intertwined to it, but the realist in me knows I don't have the funds and legal backing to ensure that I can retain such a luxury. I seriously doubt the sexually and physically abused can either.

The NSA doesn't care about your everyday life (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750757)

With the NSA, the highly paid spies don't care about your boring everyday life. Their own life is more exciting. They want to kill terrorists, and maybe find enemy spies. As for big business, they want to know everything about you. Pfizer wants to know if you have ED. Hot Topic wants to know if you are a teenage goth. Ford wants to know if you have a masculine ego, even if you don't need to haul anything. Lexus wants to know if you have a high income. But, the NSA just does not care, so in a world loaded with Facebook, I don't care about the NSA.

Fuck Yeah Capitalism! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750085)

Gotta make that dolla, dolla bill ya'll.

a fine point (3)

BradMajors (995624) | about 4 months ago | (#45750139)

She said they would remove the listing from their website. She did not say she would stop selling or even destroy such a list.

Re:a fine point (3, Insightful)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about 4 months ago | (#45750251)

She said they would remove the listing from their website. She did not say she would stop selling or even destroy such a list.

Whether you take those words at face value or not, one thing they haven't even tried to deny is that they sell lists of people with other medical conditions, like diabetes. It is spelled out right there in the article.

Re:a fine point (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750291)

She should have also said that she would fire whoever was responsible for the list having been offered.

Realize this (1)

SuperCharlie (1068072) | about 4 months ago | (#45750169)

The question is never "Will they?". The question is always, "Can they?" And more to the point.. "Can they and still get away with it profitably?" So when you are puzzling over some abhorrent possibility, run it through that filter and you will invariably find your answer.

Re:Realize this (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about 4 months ago | (#45750383)

The question is actually simpler:

"What's the revenue?"
"What's the risk of being caught?"
"What's the cost of being caught?"

If A>B*C it will be done.

Fucking Marketers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750203)

They rendered useless the words "new" and "special". Then they took "like" and "friend" and made them meaningless. Is there anything those bastards can't turn to shit? Anything? Nope, there isn't.

Data Integrity Irony? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750471)

Look at the current #1 and #2 slashdot article titles:

- Neglect Causes Massive Loss of 'Irreplaceable' Research Data
- Data Broker Medbase200 Sold Lists of Rape & Domestic Violence Victims

Sooo... as humans, we lose data that's important to us to keep forever, and compromise and sell data that shouldn't have left the original custodian.

simple solution (1)

sribe (304414) | about 4 months ago | (#45750503)

Let's just make sure he gets added to the list, then see how he feels about the subject!

Tartamella on BlockShopper? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45750677)

http://chicago.blockshopper.com/sales/cities/lake_forest/2006/Aug

Not that impressive, if it is the CEOs? You'd have to pay me a lot more to be the CEO of a company peddling that kind of data.

Ok, ok... (0)

BringsApples (3418089) | about 4 months ago | (#45751089)

Ok, ok, so I have a bunch of children tied up in my basement, and I've been selling access to their assholes/vaginas for $50/hr. Fine, you busted me, I'll let them go. Aaaaand I walk away free.

Now for my next business venture...

Data Wants to be -free- $80 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#45751419)

Data Wants to be -free- - strike that, $80.
If the data is stored somewhere, anywhere, it will become known. It is best to outlaw having that data at all, so it won't be released, leaked, accidentally without criminal charges resulting.

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