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Samsung, Apple Agree To Try Mediation In Patent Disputes

samzenpus posted about 7 months ago | from the we-can-work-it-out dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "The smartphone and tablet rivals will work with a mediator in an effort to settle their patent disputes in advance of a second trial on the issues scheduled for this spring, according to Bloomberg News. The agreement, filed in federal court in San Jose today, was in response to U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh's request in November that both sides submit a settlement discussion proposal before trial. Senior legal executives at the companies met Jan. 6 to discuss 'settlement opportunities,' according to the proposal. The companies agreed to retain a mediator 'who has experience mediating high profile disputes,' according to the filing, which doesn't name the person. The chief executive officers and three to four company lawyers, but no outside lawyers, will attend the mediation before Feb. 19, according to the filing."

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Apple won't let it happen. (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45912399)

Apple will throw a temper tantrum, claim the sole rights to rounded corners and continue stealing ideas while condemning others for doing the same. They are like a child, in corporate form.

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (5, Insightful)

Nerdfest (867930) | about 7 months ago | (#45912429)

A very rich child, with the government in their pocket. Why would they discontinue their behaviour?

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45912487)

Because they're no longer the same Apple they were when all of this started? Job-less and rapidly fading to insignificance as far as their phone division is concerned?

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (2)

arbiter1 (1204146) | about 7 months ago | (#45912509)

All this is, for apple is a way to look like they are trying to do things in good faith. That is all this comes down to, they will do everything they can to stone wall things to make sure they go no where but only to a point to make it look like they were willing to try to make a deal.

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (0)

Swampash (1131503) | about 7 months ago | (#45912523)

That they were willing to try to make a deal is a historical fact. Records of the offers have been entered as evidence at the Samsung trial.

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45913533)

I'll give you 10c for your car and $2.5 for your house.
Come on, I'm willing to try and make a deal.

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (2)

Swampash (1131503) | about 7 months ago | (#45913617)

Court documents revealed that Apple had offered to licence its patents to Samsung - allowing Samsung to produce perfectly-legal Apple-licenced phones and tablets - for $30 per phone and $40 per tablet.

Samsung rejected the offer.

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45913785)

Right, and much more significant patents are typically licensed at rates like $4-5/device.

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (1, Troll)

Swampash (1131503) | about 7 months ago | (#45913941)

So how much did Samsung offer to pay then?

Oh that's right, nothing - it just infringed them without paying.

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45924439)

Considering Apple stole the design for the iPhone from LG, Samsung isn't infringing anything.

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45913831)

30$ for bullshit patents that half the population could have while taking a bath? I hope for that price Apple had to courtesy to give some free Vaseline.

Re: Apple won't let it happen. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45915059)

Really? Then why didn't someone else invent multitouch and OS then? Never forget that Apple have brought on a few industry revolutions:

1. The Mac and home computing.
2. The iPod and the iTunes Music Store
3. The iPhone
4. The iPad and the App Store.

Re: Apple won't let it happen. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45915819)

1 Home computing was created by IBM cloners, Amiga, Atari and a few others.
2 iPod and iTunes created outside Apple and were bought in.
3 Saw where industry was going and got there "first".
4 Tablets predate iPad just not ones loved by fanbois.

Re: Apple won't let it happen. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45923187)

Multitouch existed before Apple, as you claim "invented" it. They just put it on a phone and patented "Multitouch on a phone."

Where is that historical fact? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45917709)

Apple's "deal" was "Let us pay less or we'll not pay you anything".

They wanted the FRAND deal done for the cash value only of deals others had made in cash AND "materials in kind".

If you were to PX your car for a newer one and got 50% off for the PX, would I be right to demand 50% off the same car for cash from me, even though I have no PX (well, I have a broken tricycle, they can have)?

No?

Then why is it fine for Apple?

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45912817)

This is fucking hilarious. I don't think there's been Irony so thick before.

How much do you know about Samsung? Other than you're a fan of them because they make your favorite smartphone?

Let me introduce you to a term called "Chaebol" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaebol
Long story short, Samsung is the largest of a small handful of companies that controls 90% of SK's economy. These companies openly control the SK govt. They don't hide it. Politicians openly flout who they work for.

For someone with a 6 digit slashdot ID I'd expect more than a clueless apple hater.

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45913383)

Long story short, Samsung is the largest of a small handful of companies that controls 90% of SK's economy. These companies openly control the SK govt. They don't hide it. Politicians openly flout who they work for.

Rather sad, then, that South Korea found Samsung guilty of violating an Apple patent [slashdot.org] and banned sales, while the supposedly fair-and-unbiased US lets Apple do anything it fucking wants and get off scot free in courts.

Microsoft wishes it had the sort of immunity Apple has managed to cultivate.

Re: Apple won't let it happen. (2)

Scowler (667000) | about 7 months ago | (#45913471)

Apple gets sued pretty frequently in US courts. More than pretty frequently, in fact. That tends to happen when you have products, have a lot of cash on hand, and don't, in fact, have a wall of invulnerability. I doubt they get significantly more help from the US government than any other Fortune 500 company.

Re: Apple won't let it happen. (1)

Carewolf (581105) | about 7 months ago | (#45915163)

I doubt they get significantly more help from the US government than any other Fortune 500 company.

So you think all american fortune 500 companies are allowed to ignore the rules and be protected by the administration: Obama Administration Overrules iPhone Trade Ban [slashdot.org] . Maybe you are right, but that is a rather weak statement and unrelated to the post you were replying to. Apple do have the government in their pocket and no reason to discontinue their behaviour since they are protected from repercussions.

Re: Apple won't let it happen. (2)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 7 months ago | (#45915179)

A presidential pardon is pretty unusual.

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (1)

Joce640k (829181) | about 7 months ago | (#45917087)

A very rich child, with the government in their pocket. Why would they discontinue their behaviour?

Because Samsung is outselling them by a very wide margin...?

Re:Apple won't let it happen. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45917223)

Are we talking about Samsung or Apple here?

All that's going to happen here is all that was EVER going to happen - two behemoth businesses are going to sit down and swap patent portfolios. They just did the court cases to see 1) how much damage they could inflict on each other in the pre-game, and 2) what standing they would have in the portfolio negotiations.

Re: Apple won't let it happen. (1)

Scowler (667000) | about 7 months ago | (#45912515)

Or, you know, they might just let it happen, pending the terms agreed to. Whichever option is most profitable.

Hi, my name is Steve Ballmer. (1)

swschrad (312009) | about 7 months ago | (#45916847)

I will be your mediator today. Will you gentlemen have a little hemlock to start with?

Samsung knows it will lose at trial (-1, Troll)

Swampash (1131503) | about 7 months ago | (#45912447)

Samsung has been nuked in the courts to the tune of a bajillion dollars in fines so far, so now it's trying to work out a payment plan.

Re:Samsung knows it will lose at trial (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45912573)

Why not just *try* to hide your naked fanboism, just a little? People might take you more seriously and not dismiss you as a troll or unpaid Apple shill.

Re:Samsung knows it will lose at trial (1)

dk20 (914954) | about 7 months ago | (#45913043)

So then you agree with this case as well?

Apple pays $60 million to settle China iPad trademark dispute
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/02/us-apple-china-idUSBRE86104320120702 [reuters.com]

Re:Samsung knows it will lose at trial (2)

Swampash (1131503) | about 7 months ago | (#45913345)

So then you agree with this case as well?

Apple pays $60 million to settle China iPad trademark dispute
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/07/02/us-apple-china-idUSBRE86104320120702 [reuters.com] [reuters.com]

Well yeah, why not? Apple wanted to sell a product called iPad in a country where another company already had a trademark on the name. That company reached a court-mediated settlement under which Apple agreed to pay that company 60 million dollars for the right to use the name "iPad" in the region where the name was already trademarked.

What's there to disagree with?

Re:Samsung knows it will lose at trial (1)

dk20 (914954) | about 7 months ago | (#45913427)

Many who tend to post on these types of threads are die-hard apple fans and any lawsuits where apple is not on the winning end are due to "countries where they want to punish apple".

Re:Samsung knows it will lose at trial (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45914093)

Right, so you were trolling.

Great! Um... quick question: (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45912559)

Why is there never any discussion about whether those patents are even valid in the first place?

Re: Great! Um... quick question: (1)

Scowler (667000) | about 7 months ago | (#45912649)

If anything, there is entirely too much discussion on that topic, given the extremely minuscule ways customers have actually been impacted by any of this smartphone-related patent litigation. This is all about $$$, nothing else.

Re:Great! Um... quick question: (5, Insightful)

Fluffeh (1273756) | about 7 months ago | (#45912707)

Because it is basically a gentleman's way between them where neither side wants to start invalidating patents too much else the other side comes back at their patents. Both sides want to basically "win" while retaining their own patents intact.

A "win" without holding a deck of patents at the end isn't a win for either of them.

You could also apply the basic premise of MAD during the cold war to this, but replace nukes with patent invalidation.

Re:Great! Um... quick question: (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45913375)

No, patent invalidation replaces *destruction*.

Re:Great! Um... quick question: (1)

Bugamn (1769722) | about 7 months ago | (#45915127)

MAPI then?

Re:Great! Um... quick question: (1)

geminidomino (614729) | about 7 months ago | (#45916557)

Dude! Trigger warning next time!

Customer not Competitor (3, Interesting)

Scowler (667000) | about 7 months ago | (#45912589)

The Samsung IC business relationship between these two is an order of magnitude more important than any lost sales from competition. Whether or not they settle on silly frilly patent disputes will not change that fact one iota.

Re:Customer not Competitor (2, Interesting)

deviated_prevert (1146403) | about 7 months ago | (#45913143)

The Samsung IC business relationship between these two is an order of magnitude more important than any lost sales from competition. Whether or not they settle on silly frilly patent disputes will not change that fact one iota.

Samsung if anything is not stupid. They have leveraged OSS on just about every device they make, especially smart tvs. Funny but their lines like many others do include OSS licence links right through the menu options. My question is if they settle in a circle jerk with Apple will they then be given a free pass as the Rockstar Consortium starts to go after all the sheep that microsoft already have sheared or will the patent wars heat up instead? If Apple and the cooked up US justice system beats them up badly enough will they bend over and keep taking it up the patoot? Sony uses OSS almost as much as Samsung, and LG is up there too. But the interesting question is what is going on behind the scene. The Apple VS Samsung war might just turn out to be a smoke screen if I am right about what the Rockstar Consortium is all about. I have a sinking feeling that cell phones are only the tip of the iceburg when it comes to the patent wars. Essentially OSS has taken over the embedded market especially on devices like Smart TVs. It would make perfect sense if Microsoft, Apple and Sony try a power play against all the competition in this market. MS failed in the entertainment market with ZUNE, NBC, and Apple and Sony is scared shitless of loosing their lead in the music sales market so they make strange bedfellows. But it would not surprise me at all if this Rockstar bullshit comes out of the woodwork and screws over everybody so that Apple, Sony and Microsoft can profit from every device that makes noises and pictures.

Either way things turn out for Samsung they win, but perhaps the digital entertainment industry except for those willing to pay an extra tax to this consortium will be pushed out of the industry in the long run because of software patents. Companies like Toshiba, Panasonic. LG etc are very vulnerable and we might see a global concentration of the market into the hands of four companies in the very near future. I would not be shocked if the sudden rise of Android devices is not followed by a radical demise if these assholes succeed in their quest to completely dominate the digital communication and entertainment industry.

Re: Customer not Competitor (1)

Scowler (667000) | about 7 months ago | (#45913247)

Why the fear over Rockstar? What have they accomplished? For that matter, what did they accomplish when the name Nortel existed? My point is, all the patent fear you can dream up is still peanuts compared to say, Samsung possibly losing that iPhone processor socket over to TSMC. Which right now, is entirely not a real worry, since TSMC is in no position to meet Apple's product roadmap+Apple's product volumes+ Apple's product timeline. Therefore, Apple IS Samsung's customer, period. The litigation is just posturing and side negotiations.

translation (1)

nimbius (983462) | about 7 months ago | (#45912711)

this pissing contest has waged for 3 years now. whenever a clear victor is decided the judgement is appealed, and appealed again upon the overturn. your circle-jerk is an affront to the concept of justice.

we gave you assholes your own legal system called the arbitration. we gave it to you so you could fuck customers and avoid the repercussions of class action, but im telling you to pack your shit and go. Find an "arbitrator" or whatever it is you need and figure this out on your own, but I have real court cases id like to preside over before i die from natural causes.

Re: translation (3, Informative)

Scowler (667000) | about 7 months ago | (#45912791)

There's a world of difference between mediation and binding arbitration. Regardless, any judge is supposed to be on the lookout for opportunities for settlements in civil actions, regardless the likelihood of appeals process.

Release the hounds! (1)

deviated_prevert (1146403) | about 7 months ago | (#45912759)

Apple will settle and Samsung will be under NDA as to the details. THEN ALL HELL WILL break loose and it will be directed straight at all the companies that use OSS software for free the Linux kernel modules for exfat, ffmpeg extensions for aac+ and avchd, googles versions of the same codecs and all the other stuff that makes Android phones, smart tvs and the many millions of devices that use the linux kernel and OSS work. This time around the concerted attack will be by the ROCKSTAR CONSORTIUM which is the patent troll organization which was just put together to do the real dirty work. You can smell it coming from a mile away, essentially Ballmer's revenge is about to be unleashed as Gates sits back and pulls the strings behind the scene. Why else would Sony, Apple and Microsoft had created a joint venture patent troll corporation?

Put on the pop corn folks the shit is about to really hit the fan as Ballmer promised years ago.

Re:Release the hounds! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45913051)

Maybe linux should use so many of other people's patents?

Re:Release the hounds! (1)

deviated_prevert (1146403) | about 7 months ago | (#45913305)

Maybe linux shouldn't use so many of other people's patents?

There fixed that for you. And this is exactly why Google is leveraging their dominance in internet search to promote other options. Right now I can use Youtube without having to resort to FLASH. And more and more are heading towards an unencumbered standard for the web. THE PROBLEM IS the people at APPLE AND SONY are scared shitless about this turn of events. When the public finally figures out what is really going on then the same situation that occurred with Napster will happen to them. And this is the crux of the issue, what do you do about it make it illegal to re-encode content or distribute software that will? That does not work. NO the answer is and always has been people will pay for good content and trying to stop them from watching things or listening more than once is not going to cut it. SO YES IF OSS codecs become the standard then those who create the content will make money not the assholes that try to profit only from others peoples efforts. The whole copyright extension bullshit going on in the US and the attitude that INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY can make you rich even if you do not actually create anything is going to come back to bite the US in the ass. And when it does it will make the 2000 tech bubble and the financial meltdown of 2008 look like a blip on the ticker.

I am not saying that those who create things should not be rewarded however the question here is the gross overvaluation of a technology not whether the piper should be paid!

Re:Release the hounds! (1)

exomondo (1725132) | about 7 months ago | (#45913645)

So forget the content distributors, they aren't even relevant, you need to get the content producers to create and distribute free (open/freedom) works.

Re:Release the hounds! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45913553)

Google's Android relies on proprietary software anyway, they just nicked the free bits from the open source community, tacked their proprietary platform on top and have now served up a patent trojan horse to handset manufacturers. Google have a huge trove of patents and mighty bank account but they still refuse to indemnify their so-called "partners". Do no evil my ass!

Re:Release the hounds! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45924471)

Bullshit. Android is 100% open source. The only thing that Google adds that is proprietary is Gapps, which are unnecessary for Android to function.

Ho hum (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45912765)

This is hardly news. Mediation is typically always strongly recommended by the judge prior to trial. Either party refusing to attend would make them look bad in the judge's eyes. So whether or not they actually think it is worthwhile, they both attend. And then there is no resolution. And then the trial goes ahead as planned.

Re:Ho hum (0)

girlintraining (1395911) | about 7 months ago | (#45915893)

This is hardly news. Mediation is typically always strongly recommended by the judge prior to trial. Either party refusing to attend would make them look bad in the judge's eyes. So whether or not they actually think it is worthwhile, they both attend. And then there is no resolution. And then the trial goes ahead as planned.

It's not news, it's Dice Holdings, Inc. News for Consumers -- Stuff That Sells.

Re:Ho hum (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45923137)

Feel free to move along to other sites, cunt. You talk a big game but you're a lonely little cunt bitch. And we laugh at you. Probably just a fat ass goth rotting away in your grandmother's basement.

medication (2)

dmbasso (1052166) | about 7 months ago | (#45912907)

Am I the only one who read "Samsung, Apple Agree to Try Medication in Patent Disputes"?

It makes sense, perhaps with medication they can control their patent madness. It is certainly sick.

Re:medication (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45913011)

When I first read, I was pretty sure it was: "Samsung, Apple Agree to Try Meditation in Patent Disputes".

Re:medication (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45913113)

Me too.

Patent disputes have gotten so out of control that it wouldn't seem all that out of place to have an intervention involving therapy and pharmaceuticals.

Re:medication (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45913145)

I too. It would have been a perfect fit, particularly if Jobs were still alive. Meditation in patent disputes should result enlightenment for all sides once the parties have read all the legal paper produced and realized the empty and unsatisfactory nature of it all.

History of Anglican Takeover of Pagan Patents (2)

retroworks (652802) | about 7 months ago | (#45913039)

Does anyone on Slashdot have access to some older engineering journals on touchscreens? I was under the impression that the Taipei geeks were fiddling with the touchpad and display screen markets, out of their niche in ATM touchscreen displays (which wealthy nations ignored), and that when they were contracted by Apple to make Ipads they said "hey, check this out, we put a screen on it. And you can attach at telephone". And Apple said "heck yah make that" but nothing kept Samsung from doing the same. But that's a general recollection, I don't want to be cited as a source.

But gee, I can spot a lot of lawyer history-rewrites on the internet. I just spent 10-15 minutes trying to track down the history of the development of "touchscreen" as it was attached to phones and tablets, and it's getting really hard to actually do any research on the web. The stakes in the legal patent claims seem to fan the rewriting of history on wikipedia and About.com (both with versions that I know aren't right, even if I'm not sure what IS right).

I'm not comfortable enough just from reading Digitimes for 12 years to be an expert in this, but when you read display news for 12 years you can at least spot bullshit in patent claims and wikipedia articles that are years out of sync. Anyone here have any real scoop on this that's not been rewritten by the Anglican Church? It's like all the "pagan" inventions are being turned into Christian patents.

Re:History of Anglican Takeover of Pagan Patents (1)

deviated_prevert (1146403) | about 7 months ago | (#45913431)

Anyone here have any real scoop on this that's not been rewritten by the Anglican Church? It's like all the "pagan" inventions are being turned into Christian patents.

Not in a Church per se but perhaps there is proof elsewhere in a place many consider to be a similar place of pilgrimage and worship.

From what I read a primitive induction touch based device was found last week in Steve Jobs garage. It lights up as a display and only worked with one finger however, it was right beside his first attempt at a device that moved the curser and it looked strangely modern and only worked with one finger as well. This without a doubt is prior art in the technology of touch screens.

Re:History of Anglican Takeover of Pagan Patents (1)

mewsenews (251487) | about 7 months ago | (#45914329)

I was under the impression that the Taipei geeks were fiddling with the touchpad and display screen markets, out of their niche in ATM touchscreen displays (which wealthy nations ignored), and that when they were contracted by Apple to make Ipads they said "hey, check this out, we put a screen on it. And you can attach at telephone". And Apple said "heck yah make that" but nothing kept Samsung from doing the same. But that's a general recollection, I don't want to be cited as a source.

I don't remember it happening in that way.

Apple acquired a company called FingerWorks [wikipedia.org] that didn't do touchscreens, but DID do multitouch gesture systems.

Steve Job's vision for the iPhone was a phone that is a piece of glass. I believe capacitive sensors had been done before, but Apple's hardware+software expertise, combined with FingerWorks patents, created the gesture-based interface that now seems routine on smartphones.

To be able to manipulate items on the screen by touch -- incredibly responsive, intuitive gestures, it was a big breakthrough. Even tiny things like the little slider thing to unlock an iPhone was magic, it appeared like a physical latch because it followed your touch.

Swipe to scroll, pinch to zoom, etc etc, those gestures were from FingerWorks, AFAIK.

Re:History of Anglican Takeover of Pagan Patents (1)

retroworks (652802) | about 7 months ago | (#45962991)

Ok, if you go back to the telestrator, Leonard Reiffel gets the credit, from the 1950s. http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/gadgets/4247541 [popularmechanics.com] I'm intrigued by the Vancouver connection (Fingerworks)... Vancouver must be 1/3 Chinese/Taiwanese. That may be where the DNA mingled, most of the wealthier display device geeks I met had second homes or family in Vancouver. Interesting, Thanks for the lead.

Re:History of Anglican Takeover of Pagan Patents (1)

retroworks (652802) | about 7 months ago | (#45963043)

Ok, found it. Elan 2003, of Taipei. Initial Apple contact, Elan maintains that Apple "went around them" via Vancouver (Fingerworks 2005), and Elan responded by hooking up with Android. That's as deep as I can go for now. It's pretty short jump from Taipei to Vancouver in the tech world. http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+is+Forced+Into+MultiTouch+Settlements+Tastes+its+Own+Medicine/article23676.htm [dailytech.com]

Samsung and Apple didn't read the EULA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45913175)

They forgot they had agreed to binding arbitration

iOS is dying ecosystem (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45913287)

iOS world market share is shrinking towards single digit (do Google search for "wikipedia mobile operating system"). Samsung should just brush them off and let them suffer getting lower tier components from other sources and an inferior foundry for SoC.

Re: iOS is dying ecosystem (1)

Scowler (667000) | about 7 months ago | (#45913373)

Right, because all Android devices... Indeed, all non-iOS devices everywhere, are all made by Samsung. Those billions of dollars from Apple's processor business? Yup, let's just sneeze at that, as it's clearly inferior to whatever we can get competing against the Chinese in the Third World. We MUST have market share, margins and profits don't matter!!

Re: iOS is dying ecosystem (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45914005)

We MUST have market share, margins and profits don't matter!!

That's what you idiots say about Microsoft and Windows Phone all the time.

win-win (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45914823)

They stop wasting money in court and the patents are never checked for validity so they can stay in the war chest to crush any small upcoming competitors

Meditation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45915453)

Ah... That may work!

Oh... I got that wrong....
It said mediation...

More income for some overhead (legal dude) somewhere :(

Corporate version of... (1)

mysidia (191772) | about 7 months ago | (#45915735)

Both the 5th grade school bully, and the 3rd grade victim are in the school Principal's office.

The principal has told the two to visit the school counselor, to attempt to force the two to apologize to each other.

The two have reluctantly agreed to follow the principal's command.

That doesn't mean the two won't be getting into another fight on the way to the counselor, or be beating each other down again, after the forced apology in front of the school official.

Apple & Samsung agree to collusion (1)

swb (14022) | about 7 months ago | (#45916139)

Why does this read to me like "Apple and Samsung agree to stage mediation as a way to openly collude on ways to effectively split the market and work to eliminate competitors."

It seems like they can both take their long-term business strategies to the table and figure out a way to split the market for smartphones between themselves. Apple agrees to let Samsung use some trivial design elements, which gives Samsung some advantage over other Android makers who aren't part of this bargain, and Samsung largely agrees to not try to hone in on Apple's narrow design-focused markets.

The real losers are the competitors of both companies who now face two giant competitors no longer focused on fighting each other and instead focus on their smaller competitors who might threaten their hegemony. LG and HTC remain also-rans whose Android products won't have Samsung's access to Apple's design elements and Apple can freely snipe at Windows Phone or any other up-and-comer who might try to break into Apple's niche.

Apple needs to go away in general (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#45917773)

Apple just needs to go the way of Blackberry - Their ways of making everything proprietary, including an OS that could've been amazing if they didn't require their own STUPIDLY overpriced hardware, need to die.

I had (1)

zacherynuk (2782105) | about 7 months ago | (#45920813)

Always just presumed that legal fees spent on crap like this were just a way of swilling around the cash... It's an easy way for the two companies to endlessly exchange cash - by paying fines to each other and fees to lawyers that they own, no cash is really being generated but it is being shifted from one cost center to another.

I wonder if there is something on the horizon they have seen to do with patent trolling which is forcing them to attempt to change their seemingly childish ways and orchestrate a different swilling tactic.
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  • ecode

"ecode" can be used for code snippets, for example:

<ecode>    while(1) { do_something(); } </ecode>