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344 comments

This wont happen.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2110635)

Dr. Jacques Rogge, the new president want to reduce the number of events not increase them.

Rogge said the IOC plans to study how to scale down future Olympic games, and it hopes to bring it down to the level of the Atlanta games. The tentative plan is to reduce the number of events spread between the 28 sports.

Twisted Mentat cheats... (1)

goodEvans (112958) | more than 12 years ago | (#2112878)

...and the thin set of his lips with the cranberry-colored stain of sapho juice.

They's probably using the Geriatric Spice to see what their opponent's next move is too!

Why not? (3, Informative)

Masem (1171) | more than 12 years ago | (#2114268)

I see nothing wrong with having a consistent set of drug-testing rules applies to all contestants in the Olympics, regardless of the competition. This only promotes both fairness and sportsmanship in the Games.

And as others have pointed out, there's more than just steroids that can be used to improve performance. Imagine a drug that can be used to simply keep the mind more alert for a longer period of time (the side effect being the need to sleep for several days afterwards to make up for it). I would surmise that a chess player that has taken such a drug would fair better than one that hasn't considering the length of some chess matches.

Re:Why not? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2144488)

fare better.

Stop illiteracy: correct your senile citizens today!

Irrelevent... (3, Interesting)

BMazurek (137285) | more than 12 years ago | (#2114906)

He's using steroids to move that pawn!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the banned substances are chosen on a sport by sport basis. Therefore, perhaps steroids would be allowed for chess. Just not some concentration-enchancing drug. Or rather, the IOC has a certain set of standards, and the individual sports have others.

Canadian Olympic Snowboarder Ross Rebagliati tested positive for marijuana use [mountainzone.com] . The IOC has no minimum amount set for marijuana use, but the Internation Ski Federation did...

Not a big deal (2)

macdaddy (38372) | more than 12 years ago | (#2119986)

This really isn't a big deal. They should treat all the Olympic participants fairly. Not testing the chess players would be discriminating against the other participants in my physical events.

I would say test for stimulants, (1)

tre (172905) | more than 12 years ago | (#2119988)

but most stimulants that I can think of are either way too strong to use to help you during a match and the others are all legal.

History: Litterature used to be an official sport (2, Interesting)

snowtigger (204757) | more than 12 years ago | (#2121307)

... because the guy who created the Olympic Games also wanted to win a medal. Of course he won the gold medal. The same year they also gave out medals for photography or painting.

All this happened around the year 1900.

There's lot of stuff hidden in the old history books ...

Not all enhancing drugs are steroids (2)

novarese (24280) | more than 12 years ago | (#2122249)

Lots of atheletes can benefit from drugs in ways you wouldn't normally think of. Shooters, for example, have been caught taking drugs to lower their metabolisms so they can have steadier aim. Maybe for chess they will ban ginko biloba or even caffine.

Re:Not all enhancing drugs are steroids (1)

aonaran (15651) | more than 12 years ago | (#2130163)

Actually caffine in large doses is already banned by the IOC. You can get away with a coffee in the morning, but if you were to take caffine pills it'd show up on the tests and you'd be disqualified.

Re:Not all enhancing drugs are steroids (1)

3am (314579) | more than 12 years ago | (#2156976)

sure, this is true.

but it's missing the point that there is absolutely no reasonable explanation for why chess should be an olympic game.

i'm a pretty enthusiastic chess player. i like the game. but i can play chess in a suit, and if you can do an activity (competitively) in a suit, then it shouldn't be in the olympics.

Heroine in my brain (-1, Flamebait)

B0bRoy (469465) | more than 12 years ago | (#2122250)

I guess they have to be doped just to enjoy chess, so what do they take to be good?

Where in the??? (5, Funny)

crackerjack911 (49510) | more than 12 years ago | (#2122251)

I just wonder how long till they decide to let big blue play. Only problem would be figuring out how to get a urine sample from a super computer.

Re:Where in the??? (1)

oingoboingo (179159) | more than 12 years ago | (#2130166)

Only problem would be figuring out how to get a urine sample from a super computer

maybe they wouldn't use urine for testing supercomputers...perhaps faeces. this toshiba tecra 750DVD that i'm typing this post on wouldn't ever qualify to play olympic chess if faced with a faecal test, because lord knows, it's a disgusting steaming pile of shit.

Are humans the only competitors? (5, Funny)

compwiz3688 (98919) | more than 12 years ago | (#2122252)

'He's using steroids to move that pawn!'
Nooo.... They're overclocking Deep Blue!

NOT A SPORT! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2125586)

I'm sorry, I'm sure I'll annoy some here but come on, chess is not a sport and has no place in the olympics.

The olympics is about physical excellence, faster, higher, stronger I believe is the motto.... no where does it say smarter, ever if tactics and intelligence do play a part in some of the events there is still always an aspect of the olympic events that requires the atheletes to be in elite physical condition ( though some of the female shot putters are questionable ).

Dont get me wrong I think chess is a great game and is amoung the best of intellectual games but its that, intellectual not physical and therefore should never be part of the olympics.

Ball room dancing, chess.... what next? Horticultural arraging? Redneck Cherry pit spitting ( at least there's a distance aspect here )?

As for the issue of drug testing chess if it were to become an olympic event. So what, yes its obviously stupid, I'm sure stanazol wont benefit a chess player but perhaps there are drugs which make one more alert, or calm etc. Hey if they want to be part of the show you got to play by the rules... its the principle of it.... which quite frankly should keep chess out of the olympics anyway.

If things like this are allowed to happen we'll end up with bowling at the olympics too. And then it will be a sad state of affairs. 300 lb beer swilling fat men shooting 290 games is not my idea of physical or athletic excellence.

Re:NOT A SPORT! (1)

generic-man (33649) | more than 12 years ago | (#2144487)

Ball room dancing, chess.... what next?

How about billiards [about.com] ?

Damnit. (5, Funny)

SirSlud (67381) | more than 12 years ago | (#2129273)

Damn. Drugs are about the only thing that makes chess interesting.

Re:Damnit. (1)

3am (314579) | more than 12 years ago | (#2142346)

right on. the value of chess as a drinking game has been very underestimated...

Everyone else has to. (1)

gregh76 (121243) | more than 12 years ago | (#2129274)

If the Olympic contenders in the other sports have to be drug-free, then why should the chess players be exempt? It's an all-or-nothing deal and being fair at the very least. Whether or not chess becomes an Olympic sport is another issue, entirely. Besides, chess players can, potentially if not already, take certain drugs for stamina and endurance. This is mentioned in the article. Certain fellow geeks here are just pissed off because they're treading on their territory. Sure, drug testing is fine for muscle-bound blockheads, but chess players? That's unfair! Boo hoo!

Perhaps there should be a separate Olympics (1)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 12 years ago | (#2130174)

Sport, by the traditional definition [dictionary.com] , only includes "physical activity" so all those who complain that this isn't sport, just as in this thread [slashdot.org] , do have a valid point: By the traditional definition I will concede that neither chess nor Quake 3 are "sports" because there is a limited physical extertion required (then again, doesn't that exclude baseball?).

Having said that, they are mental (plus in the case of Q3 reflex wise) competitions that are extremely skill based. Whether we modify the definition of sport to include chess and Quake 3, or we make another word, the spirit of competition and the striving for excellence is the same. It is sad to see a jock like attitude on Slashdot of all places berating those people "sitting on their ass" because they aren't competing in the traditional sense. Sorry but I respect the guy who has the most frags more than I respect the guy who throws a metal ball or runs down a track: While both have little value in the real world, the former seems like more of an accomplishment to me.

Won't Happen (5, Insightful)

wafath (91271) | more than 12 years ago | (#2131188)

Ignore the "Chess Isn't a Sport" arguements. That does not matter to the IOC. What matters is that chess is not TV friendly. The IOC cares more about ratings than anything else.

posted by an irrate fencer, a sport that is in danger of being cut because we aren't "TV Friendly".

W

Drugs??? (0)

Gambit253 (445824) | more than 12 years ago | (#2131466)

Pink moose to purple willow tree 4... Checkmate!

It took Olympian effort (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2135681)

for me to get this firstp ost.

Dangerous... (5, Insightful)

ChristianBaekkelund (99069) | more than 12 years ago | (#2136826)

This is without a doubt dangerous territory to tread on...For, while I for one would love to see there be a contest of "mental" challenges of "Olympic" proportions, I don't think the actual Olympics is the place or way to do it.

If Chess is added to the Olympics, it's only a matter of time before many many other "mental" games are petitioning the Olympic Commission for admission to the games. Instead of allowing the Commission to be very judgemental in what they allow, it'd make better sense for a mental Olympics to be wholly created outside of the existing Games, IMHO.

Re:Dangerous... (2)

Ben Hutchings (4651) | more than 12 years ago | (#2130162)

Then maybe you can include Quake, bridge, backgammon, strip poker, etc...

In other news..... (2, Funny)

rppp01 (236599) | more than 12 years ago | (#2119768)

In other Olympic news, it was found that 2 time defending quake champion CowboyNeal was found to have 10 times the allowed dosage of caffiene in his system.

His gold medal status is pending until further review.

Re:Dangerous... (1)

Lechter (205925) | more than 12 years ago | (#2137079)

But mental games are already a big part of the olympics. I mean, all we Americans are extremely proud that our crack team from Utah took the Gold Medal in bribery and graft for the next winter olympics. Not only that, just look how intense and exciting the "Sponsorship" and "Exclusive Rights" competitions are...

Re:Dangerous... (1)

smaughster (227985) | more than 12 years ago | (#2142039)

Mind sports already have their own "Olympic games" : see The Mind Sport Olympics [msoworld.com] . Not only for chess, but also numerous other mind sport games, and variations on them. A bit redundant to put them into the "official" olympics too.
Then again, think of the possibilities for expanded paralympics: chess-matches for people with IQ lower then 120.....

Woah... (3, Funny)

yatest5 (455123) | more than 12 years ago | (#2143813)

I can see the TV audiences for the 'mental olympics' being HUGE!

Re:Woah... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2130164)

is that where everyone runs around waving their arms manically, underpants on head with two pencils up their nose, shouting awwooooga awoooga?

Re:Woah... (3, Interesting)

ChristianBaekkelund (99069) | more than 12 years ago | (#2141256)

Heh...I'd watch. And I bet many other Slashdot people would as well...

Massive ratings?....of course not...but SOME ratings if they actually got televised, sure. :) Of course, the number of actual events that get televised during the Olympics currently is absurd. Basically, it must have an American in it, and look very dynamically interesting. When was the last time you saw Table Tennis or Fencing or Judo or hammer throw or any of the other gazillion events televised?

Re:Woah... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2131781)

Some ratings, but barely. And very little coverage due to low ratings. The US television market is very fickle and the media is very biased and limited when it comes to "sports" - be it mental or physical.

Chess in the Olympics (0)

slutdot (207042) | more than 12 years ago | (#2137036)

It seems to me that this is kind of an affirmative action for the unathletic. Then again, curling [brown.edu] is a part of the Olympics so I guess its an evolution of games to include chess. Who knows, maybe in 2012 we'll get Quake 6.

This is a scam!! (2, Funny)

Jucius Maximus (229128) | more than 12 years ago | (#2137037)

I can see it now... this is a carefully premeditated plot to create a world class chess competition where computers could never play!

Why? Because Big Blue would always fail the drug tests due to extravagant arsenic and lead counts! This is discrimination!! IBM should sue!!!

Chess - A stupid game for stupid people. (-1, Flamebait)

Flabdabb Hubbard (264583) | more than 12 years ago | (#2137040)

You know, I've always disliked chess players. They think they're so goddamned smart simply because they memorized a few good openings, or because they can beat most people they know.

I used to be on my school chess team, and without doubt they were the most poorly-socialized group of people I have ever met (and I am in several Linux user groups!).

Scientists have proved that all it takes to be a good chess player is a good memory. So why do we treat these people as though playing chess is a sign of intelligence ?

If you ask me, its stupid. I'd rather play Magic - The Gathering, or D&D 3rd edition, both of which demand something chess players lack - an imagination. Tell me I'm wrong.

Re:Chess - A stupid game for stupid people. (5, Funny)

BilldaCat (19181) | more than 12 years ago | (#2114266)

I'd say that if you have hung out with a chess team, Linux User Groups, D&D players, and by god, Magic The Gathering players, you have no right to be calling someone else poorly socialized.

Re:Chess - A stupid game for stupid people. (3, Insightful)

kramer (19951) | more than 12 years ago | (#2132700)

Actually, just today on NPR they discussed a research study that suggested that many Master and Grandmaster level chess players are using a part of the brain completely unused in the average player. The conclusion drawn by this researcher and study was that your average person is incapible due to his brain structure to become a Grandmaster.

Now while I don't agree with that, since it's been proven that different experiences can help develop the functioning of different parts of the brain, and I would imagine thousands of games of chess in childhood would warp anyone's brain... anyway, there's a point here somewhere.

The point I'm trying to make is that just because you someone may think differently, it's an amazingly concieted assumption to make to assume that it's "stupid".

And no, I can barely keep the names of the pieces right, I'm not a chess fanatic.

Re:Chess - A stupid game for stupid people. (2, Insightful)

bmongar (230600) | more than 12 years ago | (#2137073)

Scientists have proved that all it takes to be a good chess player is a good memory. So why do we treat these people as though playing chess is a sign of intelligence ?

Rarely is anything about the mind proven, just speculated and corelated. If all it takes to play chess is a good memory, then why has it take so long for computers to compete with grand masters level chess players. Computers have superior memory to people. It is becuase computers lack abstraction and reasoning skills, two basic component in what you call imagination.

Re:Chess - A stupid game for stupid people. (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2142344)

If you ask me, its stupid. I'd rather play Magic - The Gathering

So, you spend a fortune on a rip-off card scheme and say that chess is stupid? At least when you buy a chess set, all the pieces are included.

Wow (1)

ShoeHead (40158) | more than 12 years ago | (#2137076)

It's amazing it's taken this long for our civilization to progress (digress?) this far. You know it says something when millions of athletes are willing to sacrifice their minds and bodies to chemical drugs, to be the best, but only a few would choose to do so to enhace their mind. The this becomes widespread would be, IMO, a far more important landmark in human history than the addition of chess to the Olympics.

If you think about it, your mind is all you are. Without it, you're just some schmuck off the street. I, for one, would like to truly see the limits of the human mind--how far it is possible to advance without broaching insanity, and without the use of drugs which would take away your reasoning and uniqueness.

Bridge too (2)

Shimbo (100005) | more than 12 years ago | (#2137077)

This also applies to bridge, which is on track for Olympic status, and already has had its first dope tests. [greatbridgelinks.com]

Imagine... (1)

Professeur Shadoko (230027) | more than 12 years ago | (#2137078)

What a bout a beo.. oops.. erhh...
If Chess makes it into the Olympic Games, maybe one day we can dream of being Olympic Gold Medal of QuakeIII or whatever games exists at this time....

Pink Rooks (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2137819)

Allow the drugs. This could be an advantage for the non-drug-abusing player, who would be able to focus on the game without being distracted by squadrons of 8 foot tall pink dancing rooks doing the Watusi over the chess board.

Mental games in olympics: why? (3, Interesting)

perdida (251676) | more than 12 years ago | (#2137821)

The society we live in has put a higher premium on the mental skills, that's what is going on.

To grok this we need to go back to the original Greco-Roman games. The games were feats of athletic skill and battle strategy, which were definitely essential survival skills during those days.

Today, while these skills are still important, the mental aspect of strategy and tactics has become far more important.

When a panoply of technologies can deter even the largest crowd (audio detterence technology, microwaves meant to temporarily blind people mounted on tanks are all part of the "nonlethal" arsenal) the controllers of these technologies are at the crux of social decisions.

The Int'l Olympic Committee is supposed to consider the social relationships of the Games, their deeper meaning, etc. along with all the cash and entertainment values of the Games. Perhaps, by adding chess, this social value is their primary consideration.

(It certainly won't add any entertainment or monetary value to the Games!)

Chess? (0, Redundant)

jimlintott (317783) | more than 12 years ago | (#2138067)

Chess is not a sport. Sports require motor skills. Chess does not. A game of chess can be played over the phone with the players describing their moves. Stephen Hawking could play chess. The Olympics are a joke.

Actually (1)

Richard Bannister (464181) | more than 12 years ago | (#2144483)

The question as to whether or not Chess is a sport is open to considerable debate.

See here [turowski.com] .

Re:Actually (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2119984)

That is completely insane! A sport involves athletic skill and chess requires absolutely none. That's like claiming the game of golf is a sport! Golf doesn't involve enough athletics to be considered one, and yet idiot losers are arguing chess should be one. What a bunch of idiots!

Re:Chess? (0)

yatest5 (455123) | more than 12 years ago | (#2145095)

Surely sprinting could be done, over the phone, with someone running for you...

"left, right, left, right, left, left oh, sorry mate"!

Nazis are evil! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2138181)

I hate Nazis, their stench is the stench of tonnes of manure, and they are evil like Bill Gates on crack. I like to shoot Nazis with guns and beat them with baseball bats. All Nazis, I am going to kill you with guns and bats because you are evil and I hate you. Nazis are Communists and child molestors and racists. Nazis please stop being Communists and child molestors and racists, because everyone hates you because that's what you do. I want you all to die, and be advised that when you die, all Nazis will burn eternally in the fiery inferno of hell for rejecting the teachings of Jesus Christ, just like all the other Communists and child molestors and racists will also burn!! NAZIS GO TO HECK, YOU STINKS!!!

Re:Nazis are evil! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2152548)

no, jews r evil, nazi (national socialism) is reet. u got it backwards.

The article doesn't mention caffeine... (1)

wrinkledshirt (228541) | more than 12 years ago | (#2138374)

Apparently a high concentration of caffeine isn't allowed in some sports, and when I got this news from a tv report they said that the testing would include checking participants for caffeine. This might piss off chess players who aren't morning people.

Only if it is speed chess (2)

KarmaBlackballed (222917) | more than 12 years ago | (#2141251)

Speed chess can be fun to watch. Watching regular chess is a good way to slip into slumber-land.

I don't think any network will need to cover a regular chess game live. Even golf moves faster.

Re:Only if it is speed chess (1)

Zocalo (252965) | more than 12 years ago | (#2119036)

Speed chess can be fun to watch.

Or chess players on speed...

Re:Only if it is speed chess (1)

invenustus (56481) | more than 12 years ago | (#2120032)

I don't think any network will need to cover a regular chess game live. Even golf moves faster.
Actually, ESPN (the biggest all-sports channel in the USA) has shown chess before. I was flipping channels in the middle of the night and I had to get up and walk around to make sure I wasn't dreaming it. And yes, it was really slow, but they were covering 3 or 4 games at once so the commentators could have things to say.

Gimme some! (1)

TheBadger (131644) | more than 12 years ago | (#2141468)

Are there any brain enhancing drugs that would improve my chess?

I have been playing on www.redhotpawn.com [redhotpawn.com] and I have been getting wiped out by my friends!

The Drug Testing in the Olympics is unbelievable (0)

jocknerd (29758) | more than 12 years ago | (#2141538)

I take Claritin for my allergies. Claritin is considered an illegal drug in the Olympics. They are extremely paranoid in the Olympics. But then again, countries continue to abuse the drugs. It used to be the Soviet bloc countries, lately its been the Chinese in swimming and track and field.

I think it would be hilarious to see some Chess 'nerd' get banned from the Olympics for testing positive for Human Growth Hormone. That would definitely put Chess on ESPN!

normalize the quasi-sports (2, Funny)

trix_e (202696) | more than 12 years ago | (#2142266)

In an effort to save everyone's time, I propose that all of the quasi-sports that have slowly wormed their way into the olympics be combined into one event. We'll call it Splunge. The rules are as follows (sort of...):

Contestants compete in a giant chess board shaped pool, each team representing the appropriate chess piece (pawns, knights, queens etc.). Teams alternate turns with their rhythmic gymnastic ribbons fluttering non-stop as they try to get the ball in the other team's net with table tennis paddles. Equestrian referees with badminton raquets shall penalize players who foot fault or allow the ball hit the sand. The match shall be declared upon completion of a flawless SDE (Synchronized Drowning Event) by either team.

Anyone with me? I say we petetion the IOC for recognition of this event...

How "sport" should be defined (1)

banda (206438) | more than 12 years ago | (#2142345)

In my book, it's not a "sport" unless there is very real chance that one or more participants may die during the event.

Anything else is a "game."

(Go ahead, ask me what I do for sport.)

I can see it now ..... (1)

crackerjack911 (49510) | more than 12 years ago | (#2142037)

"Roid-Raged Chess geek shoves rook through opponents eye, then proceeds to hurl pawns into the audience. 5 dead, 12 injured. More at 11:00."

This is just ridiculous (1)

Uttles (324447) | more than 12 years ago | (#2143204)

``What, human-growth hormones so we can bang the clock harder?'' said Jim Leade, a U.S. representative to FIDE who thinks the organization is being too strict. ``It absolutely registers as ridiculous.''

No, what's ridiculous is that chess is being considered as an olympic sport. Come on people, can we stick to the core events and stop all this junk? I heard that frisbee was being considered as an event... really, come on, that's something you play in the park with your dog, not something you do as a world class athlete. They need to go back to basics, running, jumping, lifting heavy stuff, swimming, etc. Really, what's next? Are they going to have posting slashdot articles as an event? How about sitting in an office chair, or maybe coffee preparing? All of these things have their places, and those places are not in the Olympics.

an olympic sport?? (2, Funny)

JEDi_ERiAN (79402) | more than 12 years ago | (#2143811)

no way! chess as an olympic sport? guess the geeks have to get in somehow. I'm still awaiting freestyle walking, dwarf tossing and log rolling to become olympic sports.

E.

Re:an olympic sport?? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2130957)

Or how about cross-country ballroom dancing? Or roller fucking?

Even better, what kind of gold medal does this earn:

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Re:an olympic sport?? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2141254)

dwarf tossing will never become an olympic sport - too rude. Plus dwarves have short tempers, I dont think they'd stand for it.

So what happens to Deep Blue? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2143814)

will the engineers who developed it have to be tested?

new sports? (0, Troll)

unformed (225214) | more than 12 years ago | (#2143938)

How 'bout addin masturbation?

I can "release my load" in 15 seconds flat!

Re:new sports? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2145057)

Sure! We would need male, female, and mixed rounds. I'd love to watch that!

Gee, a nice broken sport. (0, Troll)

the_radix (454343) | more than 12 years ago | (#2143997)

Well, it'd be nice to see an intellectual sport at the Olympics, were it not for the simple fact that chess is broken. We've got computers beating world champions because chess has a finite number of moves. It can only branch so many times before the game ends. What if we finally figured out exactly how to win a game of chess? Then the whole tournament would boil down to who went first.

Maybe a real intellectual sport [wunderland.com] should be considered, instead of a brainteaser.

Chess as a sport? (1)

NateKid (44775) | more than 12 years ago | (#2144115)

Are you kidding me? I just know Jon Katz is behind this somehow...

Caffiene (1)

bdrexler (444836) | more than 12 years ago | (#2144193)

As long as they don't test for caffiene I think most Chess players will be ok....

Re:Caffiene (1)

juha0 (148119) | more than 12 years ago | (#2115959)

You'll have to be camel to drink that much coffee..

Ooh yeah! (1)

telstar (236404) | more than 12 years ago | (#2144259)

All my little Hulkamaniacs... watch me move my knight into position to storm the castle ... Oooh yeah! Whatcha gonna do when my 24" pythons run wild on your queen?

Seriously ... imagine what roid-rage could do to this "sport" ... Personally, my vote is to get "Risk" added as an olympic sport. What board-game could be more international? Our first competitors cold be Kramer and Neuman.

Keep an open mind (1)

Big Nothing (229456) | more than 12 years ago | (#2144485)

Chess wouldn't work at the Winter Games--rules allow only sports played on ice or snow.

How 'bout winter-chess performed on ice? Just as fun to watch as Nancy Kerrigan, and maybe a tad more interesting?

Chess in the Olympics? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2144716)

Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

Drug-allowed Olympics (1)

yatest5 (455123) | more than 12 years ago | (#2144717)

This got me thinking - I know there's a small movement for allowing all drugs into sport - I'm thinking though lets only allow performance-*decreasing* drugs in...

Anyone seen that shot-glass chess set - each time you take a piece, down a whiskey - would *love* to see chess masters at that - reckon it would even up chess masters with mere mortals who've actually drank before...

Re:Drug-allowed Olympics (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2112630)

No - it would just make those drunk Russians crush the rest of the world...

Performance drugs for chess? Sure... (5, Interesting)

glebite (206150) | more than 12 years ago | (#2144745)

How about Ritalin or some other drug to improve concentration skills. What about some kind of coolness-under-fire drugs to block out the pressure? Are there drugs that won't 'zombify' a person, but keep them focused?

Just asking...

You Betcha (4, Interesting)

sjbe (173966) | more than 12 years ago | (#2119769)

I'm around medical students quite a lot. Now if you've ever seen what medical students have to learn, it involves huge amounts of memorization and studying upwards of 12-18 hours per day (including classes) much of the time. Obviously unless you are some freak of nature you cannot concentrate effectively for that long. (yes this includes programmers too...)

I have numerous 2nd and 3rd hand accounts of the use of some prescription drugs (including ritalin) being used to aid concentration during long study sessions. (Obvously it isn't hard for medical personnel to get them or to know the side effects.) How widespread this practice is or how effective it is, I have no idea but it does appear to happen and apparently to some degree.

Maybe that's why I was never a curve wrecker in college. Everyone else was doping... Yeah, that's it. That's the ticket...

Re:Performance drugs for chess? Sure... (1)

Victors Monster (466628) | more than 12 years ago | (#2135248)

I, for one, cannot bring the proper and tremendous effort of concentration to bear on my opening game without three Red Bulls and a hypermint.

Everything looks really bright and the edges are very clear. Isn't this kind of like what cocaine is supposed to be like?

Re:Performance drugs for chess? Sure... (1)

RaboKrabekian (461040) | more than 12 years ago | (#2135422)

Speed and other amphetamines can greatly increase focus and concentration for long periods of time. In my younger, more exuberant days, I remember being amped up on speed and being able to play guitar better than I ever had. I think where we should look, however, is to the current governing bodies of chess. Is drug use prevalent in any way in competetive chess? I have no idea whatsoever..

Re:Performance drugs for chess? Sure... (2)

jidar (83795) | more than 12 years ago | (#2119038)

The drugs alter your perception of reality. Specifically amphetamines tend to make you enjoy yourself. If you get this effect while playing guitar you will very much enjoy your musical abilities, thus thinking you play better. "But I swear dude, I play better high!" heh.. yeah, right.

Re:Performance drugs for chess? Sure... (1)

RaboKrabekian (461040) | more than 12 years ago | (#2141535)

Good point, but that's not the whole effect. Amphetamines increase concentration and focus. I have recordings of my guitar playing when I was high, and it was noticably better.

Uppers defintiely are performance enhacnign when it comes to some things.

Re:Performance drugs for chess? Sure... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2144751)

>Are there drugs that won't 'zombify' a person, but keep them focused?
>
>Just asking...

Beta blockers come to mind... see about beta blockers at Encyclopedia.com" [encyclopedia.com]
They're used for lowering blood pressure and heart rate and are also used as anti-anxiety drugs for people that have stagefright. Their use as performance enhancing drug is mainly in high-stress sports such as ski-jumping. And of course they're banned for that use.

Re: Performance drugs for chess? Sure... (1)

qwaszx (8209) | more than 12 years ago | (#2145096)

Are there drugs that won't 'zombify' a person, but keep them focused?

Caffeine?

Of course, they can't ban cofee.. can they?

Re: Performance drugs for chess? Sure... (1)

Sheridan (11610) | more than 12 years ago | (#2110636)

The British Chess Federation has the following advice [ndirect.co.uk] regarding FIDE's dope testing rules.

In particular, they advise limiting oneself to 4 cups of coffee over a 6 hour period, reduced to 2 if you are also drinking cola type drinks.

They don't mention caffeinated peppermints or Bawls, though.

Re: Performance drugs for chess? Sure... (4, Informative)

skinhead (152780) | more than 12 years ago | (#2137820)

Of course, they can't ban cofee.. can they?
In many sports, there are strict limits for caffeine. It's possible to get busted in tests just by drinking too much coffee. Usually 300-500mg of caffeine pushes you above the limit (12mg of caffeine in 1l of urine). Since there is usually 40-60mg of caffeine in one cup of coffee, 10 cups of coffee would be too much.

Re:Performance drugs for chess? Sure... (1)

Peter La Casse (3992) | more than 12 years ago | (#2145221)

It's true that when I drink Mt. Dew, my code has less bugs. Which is too bad, because for health reasons I can't guzzle the stuff as much as I'd like...

Blade Runner? (2, Funny)

noz (253073) | more than 12 years ago | (#2144746)

Will they allow replicants like Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer) to compete? He did help J.F. Sebastian beat Mr Tyrell.

Re:Blade Runner? (2, Funny)

pdiaz (262591) | more than 12 years ago | (#2112631)

[Mr Roy] I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
[Mr Kasparov]Judge!. I think that my oponent has been using drugs again

Ok, that was a bad joke, but I couldn't resist

Re:Blade Runner? (1)

spiny (87740) | more than 12 years ago | (#2144427)

hahahaha, very good :)

phil.

Mental Olympics (1)

ziggy_zero (462010) | more than 12 years ago | (#2144941)

Yeah, um, I thought the Olympics were for physical feats, not mental. Are there no "mental" olympics? If not, there should be.

Re:Mental Olympics (2)

NevDull (170554) | more than 12 years ago | (#2138180)

Like an academic decathlon for adults?

Can anyone thking of any drugs (2, Interesting)

yatest5 (455123) | more than 12 years ago | (#2145205)

that would actually benefit the chess player? Apart from ones that actually make chess *interesting* of course...

FP?

Re:Can anyone thking of any drugs (2)

pongo000 (97357) | more than 12 years ago | (#2114267)

Here's a list [totse.com] you can start with.

Re:Can anyone thking of any drugs (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2116828)

yea, caffiene to keep awake.

Re:Can anyone thking of any drugs (2, Informative)

Unknown Bovine Group (462144) | more than 12 years ago | (#2141528)

Actually, blood-caffeine content is tested [tennessean.com] and limited in certain chess 'Federations' although the actual benefits seem to be anecdotal at best.

Competitors and tournament officials alike said they had never heard of a chess player taking drugs to become sharper -- although a good strong cup of coffee was not out of the question. Even then, the caffeine level in players' blood is restricted under Spanish federation rules.

Um, caffein is not an illegal drug. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2112879)

Steroids are illegal. Cocaine is illegal. Athletes who get caught using these are disqualified, and possibly busted. But caffein is legal. How can they bust you for caffein? Do they ban coffee too? Are the Brits not allowed to have their tea? They'd throw fits! Next they'll ban nutritious food because vitamins and protein unfairly increase vital functions.

Re:Can anyone thking of any drugs (0)

PHanT0 (148738) | more than 12 years ago | (#2145059)

ok.... just stop and think about this...

if you allow them caffeine, who's telling when they'll stop? I mean, right now the olympics only last two weeks, no?

insight is for those without vision or an imagination!

Re:Can anyone think of any drugs (2, Interesting)

jeffy124 (453342) | more than 12 years ago | (#2142349)

I saw a story about this on espn.com last night. Submitted it, but it looks as if this guy beat me to it.

The article on espn stated that doctors for the World Chess Federation said that caffeine and steroids and other drugs can give a person an endurance advantage when a match runs into the 5th or higher hour, which can lead to an unfair advantage in favor of an individual using an IOC-banned substance.

I find it kinda strange that the same drugs that allow Mark McGuire (sp?) to hit dingers also gives the brain an endurance lift.

Ridalin (sp?)? Red Bull? Meth? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2142779)

Any drug that boosts brain activity.
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