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Reports Say Satya Nadella Is Microsoft's Next CEO

timothy posted about 8 months ago | from the of-insiders-expressing-an-opinion dept.

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Nerval's Lobster writes "Microsoft's next CEO will be Satya Nadella, if current reports prove accurate. According to Re/code, which drew its information from "numerous sources close to Microsoft," Nadella could officially assume the role in early February. Meanwhile, anonymous sources speaking to Bloomberg suggested that co-founder Bill Gates could be forced to give up his longtime chairman role. Nadella (again, if confirmed) seems a logical choice for Microsoft. He's been with the company for more than twenty years, eventually becoming executive vice president of its Cloud and Enterprise division. The enterprise remains a key—perhaps the key — customer segment for Microsoft, especially as its mobile and consumer efforts (excluding the Xbox) have floundered in recent years; in order to retain those business clients, Nadella and his team embarked on the creation of 'Cloud OS,' the platform that powers Microsoft's large-scale cloud services such as SkyDrive, Azure, and Office 365. Under his guidance, Microsoft's revenue from cloud services has grown by several billion over the past few years, so he's shown that he can expand a business. In addition, his technical background could afford him a measure of respect from Microsoft's legions of engineers and developers. But if he's ultimately tapped for the CEO seat, Nadella faces one of the toughest jobs in the technology industry: not only does he need to craft a plan that will allow Microsoft to grow and prosper in an integrated, holistic manner—he'll need to do it while guiding the company through the massive internal reorganization initiated by his predecessor, Steve Ballmer."

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here's a suggestion (3, Funny)

etash (1907284) | about 8 months ago | (#46124871)

let B.G. become CEO again. founders are a better choice (as a rule, which means it also has exceptions ofc)

Re:here's a suggestion (1, Troll)

xfizik (3491039) | about 8 months ago | (#46124905)

I think he's too busy designing ultra-thin condoms for Africa - a way more important job in the grand scheme of things for humanity.

Re:here's a suggestion (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125017)

Why do people keep trying to sustain the population that they can't sustain themselves?
If we just let all the Africans starve, maybe they wouldn't keep having hundreds of kids they don't have food and water for.

Re:here's a suggestion (2, Insightful)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 8 months ago | (#46125043)

And, if you're in a car accident, if we just let you bleed on the street, we'll have saved a few bucks too.

Re:here's a suggestion (2, Insightful)

mechtech256 (2617089) | about 8 months ago | (#46125129)

Birth control and education are some of the major problems he's addressing, and that doesn't lead to more starving, suffering kids.

Re:here's a suggestion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125759)

He should have applied that principle to Windows.

Re:here's a suggestion (1)

Demonoid-Penguin (1669014) | about 8 months ago | (#46126127)

Birth control and education are some of the major problems he's addressing, and that doesn't lead to more starving, suffering kids.

But that'd be less souls for Jesus. What will all those fat white missionaries do?

Re:here's a suggestion (-1, Troll)

davester666 (731373) | about 8 months ago | (#46126611)

Fuck the natives bareback, same as always.

Re:here's a suggestion (3, Insightful)

Zynder (2773551) | about 8 months ago | (#46125245)

I know this is just some good old fashion racist bullshit but I just had to respond because I've heard this kind of rant many times. I also have a history of feeding those poor starving trolls of any nationality. It takes less than a penny a day! I know stupidity and racism go hand in hand but I'm going to analyze your argument for our readership. Please follow along:

If we just let all the Africans starve, maybe they wouldn't keep having hundreds of kids they don't have food and water for.

This is blaringly obviously NOT EFFECTIVE. Those people are so poor that fucking is about the only thing they can do. It is free and because they have little education, they evidently can't figure out that is what gets you pregnant until it's too late. I'm middle aged, so my history on the plight of Africa doesn't go back very far, but I recall the plight of Africa gaining mainstream attention probably around the mid 80s with that whole Sally Struthers campaign. Since that time a lot of charity and aid has been sent and I think overall analysis concludes that their situation has been getting better- at least Jimmy Carter thinks so. Well what did we do before we starting sending all this aid? I'm guessing we used your proposed method which was ignore them, let them fend for themselves, and if they die, they die. Firstly that proposal is morally reprehensible to me. I don't just let people die if I can help them. But morals aside, just ignoring the situation made the problem worse. With nothing better to do they just keep pumping kids out regardless of if they can feed them or not. It has been shown historically time and time again when a nation becomes wealthy, birthrates plummet and mortality increases. Being a callous bastard as you propose would get us nowhere. The person you replied to had a better solution though I can't tell if they were joking or not (my sarcasm meter is on the fritz).

I think he's too busy designing ultra-thin condoms for Africa

THIS is a much better solution! If the desired outcome is to reduce the number of children who will die of starvation or disease, and because of political reasons just throwing food and vaccines at them isn't working, then the next best approach is preventing the pregnancies in the first place. A condom is a fine way to do this. Throw a good helping of Nature's best medicine -education- on top of that and progress will be made. It actually can be a win-win for all concerned. We stop the suffering of others (especially the children!), we reduce or eliminate the problem of having kids one cannot support, overall health and quality of life will go up, and to appease you racist fuckers there will be fewer brown people around since instead of having 20 kids they only have 2 or 3. You can have a heart full of hate or a heart full of love and nothing I wrote above sounds bad. It's good for everyone.

I will also point out that the solution to your problem, the hateful racism eating away at your being, is also EXACTLY the same! Contraceptives and education. We reduce the chances for you to spread your malformed genes and with education, you can stop fearing the unknown and passing that message onto the kids you do have. A WIN-WIN AGAIN!

Re:here's a suggestion (2)

fnj (64210) | about 8 months ago | (#46125483)

Except for the BULLSHIT MINDLESS charge of racism, which you have absolutely no foundation for and contributes nothing, that is a damn good thoughtful reply to a post which also made me think.

Re:here's a suggestion (2)

Zynder (2773551) | about 8 months ago | (#46125733)

I have 2 reasons to play the race card here. 1) It was a one-liner AC comment. They are almost always racist, insulting, or just downright vile. I've got precedence on my side. Should the AC like to refute that claim, I'll listen. 2) We were talking about Africa and immediately we got someone who pops up and just wants us to let them die. I'm from the South. I know racism. It's like a nasty fart on the porch in August. It's always there lingering but no one will take responsibility for it. My personal experience says when people start talking like the AC did, it's inevitable that it devolves into the obvious racism you envision but didn't see. It's kind of like a Godwin rule. And finally 3) It was an AC trollin. Can't I troll back?

So to sum it up we have 2 weapons we use in the fight against Trolls: Precedence, Inference, and an almost fanatical use of Hyperbole. No wait. Amongst our weaponry are such elements as Precedence, Inference,...I'll come back in

:D

Re:here's a suggestion (1)

dreamchaser (49529) | about 8 months ago | (#46125977)

The only weapon to use against trolls is to ignore them. They do it for attention. Responding to them just feeds them and they win.

YHBT YHL HAND.

Re:here's a suggestion (2)

Zynder (2773551) | about 8 months ago | (#46126177)

YHBT YHL HAND

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn?

Re:here's a suggestion (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125495)

I agree with GP, but this argument is pointless because

1. The average African (AA) have not seen those "food and vaccines" that you are talking about.
2. The AA will never see those "extra-thin condoms" that BG is designing.
2a. - If the AA is lucky to get a box of them in his lifetime, that will not not change any significant digits in population growth.
3. Why is it your goal to control their population in the first place? If this is what they wanted they would control their own population by the magical "pull out" method and/or reading Slashdot. Just give them OLPCs or something.

There is a dogma that Christians have that one must help the poor. Nobody ever questions it. I have never seen a sound justification for it.
Every day I pass by this beautiful church [google.com] , with a statue of a begging homeless person in front of it, and a few real homeless people begging/sleeping right next to the statue. It is extremely cold outside. If your dogma is to help the homeless, why not let them in your empty luxury building to sleep in warmth? Why build a multi-bullion worship house in the middle of Manhattan when 70% of that money could be used to sustain the homeless, maybe even help some recover?

Re: here's a suggestion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125673)

every day i pass that statue and leave the poor homeless guy to freeze to death. I am in such a rush to get home and critisize someone else i have forgotton to remove the log from my own eye

Re:here's a suggestion (3, Informative)

mcswell (1102107) | about 8 months ago | (#46126027)

I don't know anything about that church, but I know our church (in Maryland) does exactly that during the winter, along with a number of other churches in the area--each church takes a week. They drive the homeless to and from where ever they are during the day (some of the churches are out in the country), and provide breakfast.

Re:here's a suggestion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46126219)

they'll use the condoms for more pressing concerns like waterproofing the roof.

Re:here's a suggestion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125951)

I know stupidity and racism go hand in hand...

Way to look down on about 92% of the world, white supremacist white boy.

Re:here's a suggestion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46126203)

Jimmy Carter is a goddamn fuckwit. No one should give a rat's ass what that moron thinks. He thought the religious nutcases in Iran would be better to deal with than the Shah and would have a better human rights view because they were "men of God". Instead of just jailing & beating people, they just fucking slaughtered them and set back the work that had been done to create a modern secular society in Iran...not unlike what has happened across the top of Africa.

Re:here's a suggestion (1)

Suffering Bastard (194752) | about 8 months ago | (#46125415)

Could the second coming of Bill Gates be as monumentally transformative for MS as the second coming of Steve Jobs was for Apple? Or would it epically fail like most of Gates's attempts to be like Jobs? I doubt Gates would want to take that risk.

Re:here's a suggestion (3, Funny)

Billly Gates (198444) | about 8 months ago | (#46126489)

Could the second coming of Bill Gates be as monumentally transformative for MS as the second coming of Steve Jobs was for Apple? Or would it epically fail like most of Gates's attempts to be like Jobs? I doubt Gates would want to take that risk.

Why funny you should ask that.

As I will be the second in command I look forward to exciting times at Microsoft!

First things first yes I am better and my ego needs to be fed. I will do so by executing the following. Back in the good old days things worked best when I made them as proprietary as possible. I started making Xenix as non compatible as possible with Unix so the users can blame all the other unix vendors and programmers rather than me. I also had pure joy almost to an orgasmic sense with IE and using Word and Excel file formats as well to make them not work with anything else.

Balmer fucked up! First off IE works too well with standards recently. Before we know it we will have the communist and socialist unAmerican elements of the W3C tell us how to develop web pages!! Full alarm! Windows 7 just works and besides the gui in Windows 8 it is light and fast and can run on even a crappy ARM qualcomm very efficiently :-(

The next phase will introduce the following:
1. Documents will overwrite by default with autosave after each character. Grandma will appreciate this and we want to make this easy
2. No desktop. Multitasking is sooo 1990s. Multitasking in Metro will mean you need to go full screen and lose whatever you have in front of you and go closed door syndrome after ribbon. Since users only do one task at a time we will make Windows 9 have buttons where each ribbon should be and using rote memory will take up the whole screen and cover the document for each option etc.
3. IE will need to invent their own standards and stop supporting conditional statements for different browsers. :-( Webmasters how dare you write for other browsers! If you only wrote to our own DRM specificed CSS and XML (html is too opened) completed with binary encodings you will not have this problem. Webmasters you have a chose. 90% of all desktop users or socialist freeware browsers? I think you know which one you will choose. ... and they tell me people use this foxfire thingie since I left CEO?!
4. Make word documents and our new language which is called C++ but will be totally different to encourage high cost and rewrites for porting mac and linux apps (sucks to be them hahah) used to make xml with binary encodings for internet pages. I mean executing code as administrator on all sites from God knows whom?? What could possible go wrong!!!
5. Man Windows was such as fine elegantly engineered and gorgeous product compared to the Mac back in the 1980s I could not possible see why no one would want to switch to this. I mean look at marketshare. I am sure the same truths hold sway today as people are gobling up Windows Phones and tablets because the brand is so well known.
6. Windows 9 certification will require signed operating systems and DRM executables to run. I can permit Linux apps if they are signed with the Windows Store and run as an applet in the new Metro 2.0 interface with HyperV. All the geeks on slashdot will be cheering and moaning my name for this. Just you see.

Thanks for your interest.

Re:here's a suggestion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125441)

let B.G. become CEO again. founders are a better choice (as a rule, which means it also has exceptions ofc)

We already had that discussion here:

Starring Bill Gates as Himself (Score:4, Interesting)
by FatLittleMonkey (1341387) on Friday July 01, @08:19AM (#36632230)
I wonder what would happen to Microsoft's share price if Gates himself stepped back into the role?

Re:Starring Bill Gates as Himself (Score:1)
by Anonymous Coward on Friday July 01, @08:42AM (#36632400)

The same thing what happened to Micheal Schumacher as he returned to F1 ? (aka. disaster)
Reply to This Parent

        Re:Starring Bill Gates as Himself (Score:2)
        by rbrausse (1319883) on Friday July 01, @08:49AM (#36632462)

        it worked for Apple, you can find existing examples for every possible outcome (rule 34 of business-leadership :))

                Re:Starring Bill Gates as Himself (Score:2)
                by Machtyn (759119) on Friday July 01, @09:28AM (#36632780) Homepage
                Yes, but where does this rule fall in the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition?

More or less American MS employees? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46124877)

Does this mean Microsoft will ramp up it's savings by employing even more H1Bs in the nation that bankrolls their endeavors? God help our educated unemployed.

Re:More or less American MS employees? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125197)

Who cares?

Re:More or less American MS employees? (1)

Mashiki (184564) | about 8 months ago | (#46125233)

Who cares?

Well you would care if you lost your job due to the H1B scam. After all, we have a shortage of skilled programmers in the americas right? Oh we don't...

Re:More or less American MS employees? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125345)

If you are decent, H1B or no H1B, you find a job in the software world in the US. Period.
I would give US companies more H1B, but they have to pay, say US$ 100K each, and I would invest that money in public education.
So that, maybe, in a few years, we would stop asking for engineers abroad, as more people could afford the education.

Re:More or less American MS employees? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46126245)

No decent person would want to work for an unethical, deceitful un-innovative company like Microsoft anyway.

Show some self-respect. Leave the work to people who are too poor to have a choice.

Re:More or less American MS employees? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125243)

Somebody who doesn't bend over to Obama's speeches and cry in ecstasy?

Re:More or less American MS employees? (1)

fnj (64210) | about 8 months ago | (#46125503)

Somebody who doesn't bend over to Obama's speeches and cry in ecstasy?

Find me this mythical person if he exists. We need to cut him open and find out the part of his brain that doesn't exist or has atrophied in the rest of the electorate's brains.

I'll vote for him (3, Funny)

jfdavis668 (1414919) | about 8 months ago | (#46124893)

If he brings back the start button.

Re:I'll vote for him (2)

JDG1980 (2438906) | about 8 months ago | (#46124939)

Since enterprise support was a major part of his division (certainly much more profitable than the fledgling cloud services) perhaps he will. Enterprises, of course, are not at all thrilled with Win8/Metro.

Re:I'll vote for him (1)

neminem (561346) | about 8 months ago | (#46124965)

That would be pretty cool. Maybe then he'd also lobby for bringing back the non-retarded search interface from Win2k (that was available by a registry tweak in XP, byt not since).

Re:I'll vote for him (1)

Zynder (2773551) | about 8 months ago | (#46125295)

I don't search much and it's been awhile since I fired up XP. Could you elaborate on what you mean regarding the "non-retarded" search function? As I recall it had a pop out side bar with Clippy reincarnated as a dog. It asked you dumb things and had the options in the list that were useless so you always had to click the Advanced Search link. I can't even remember what W2K looks like anymore so I've no idea what its search did.

Re:I'll vote for him (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125671)

It was sort of like that, except all the advanced options were just available to start with, and there was no clippy. You could just pick exactly what you wanted to search for and type it in, and it would search. Also it didn't look like a cartoon. But what it *did* do was search exactly what you would expect it to, and not your whole computer and only certain file types unless you waited for the search to complete and then override it with "yes I *do* know what I'm doing, I'm not an idiot". (XP search behaved intelligently in that regard, it was just dumb in other ways. I'm referring to Win7/8 search.)

Re:I'll vote for him (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125629)

Also he should bring back that Add Fonts dialog box that survived from Windows 3.1 to Windows 7. I have MINUTES invested in training on that dialog.

Re:I'll vote for him (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | about 8 months ago | (#46126501)

Also he should bring back that Add Fonts dialog box that survived from Windows 3.1 to Windows 7. I have MINUTES invested in training on that dialog.

Sigh if only I had mod points on that one.

Re:I'll vote for him (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | about 8 months ago | (#46126499)

That would be pretty cool. Maybe then he'd also lobby for bringing back the non-retarded search interface from Win2k (that was available by a registry tweak in XP, byt not since).

You mean like hitting the Windows Key and typing whatever you want while the results come back instantly without that annoying dog diggings and taking a crap while c:\ is slowly indexed each and every time?

Re:I'll vote for him (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46124941)

You just don't like chaaaaaaange!

Re:I'll vote for him (1)

mcswell (1102107) | about 8 months ago | (#46126035)

One word for you: Edsel.

Re:I'll vote for him (4, Insightful)

gigaherz (2653757) | about 8 months ago | (#46125005)

... the start button has been in 8.1 since it was released some months ago. I'd prefer if he brought back also the start MENU, and Aero. My computer is not a tablet, it does not need features designed for touch-screen, or removed to "improve battery life", so I will not install an OS that treats it like one.

Re:I'll vote for him (1)

hcs_$reboot (1536101) | about 8 months ago | (#46125047)

Possibly Nadella could bring interesting novelties at MS, thanks to his former position at Sun MS (Microsystems), his cloud work at MS and his Tim Cook look. That seems to be a wise choice.

Re:I'll vote for him (1)

zoomshorts (137587) | about 8 months ago | (#46125119)

Tim Cook, the asshole that ran Intelligent Electronics into the ground at the behest of Richatd douchebag?
Fuck him hard until the hatchet man dies!!!

Re:I'll vote for him (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about 8 months ago | (#46125765)

Actually, the most important he needs to do . . . is to toss out all the Ballmer "yes-men" executives. I have the feeling that Ballmer will still try to micromanage Microsoft from the outside . . . even though he will no longer be the CEO.

He still will be an influential voice on the Microsoft board of directors, or is he leaving the board . . . ?

Meh... (1)

jddeluxe (965655) | about 8 months ago | (#46124921)

Who cares? I'm more interested in the rumors that they are scheming to oust Bill Gates as Chairman...

Re:Meh... (1)

Zynder (2773551) | about 8 months ago | (#46125605)

Sounds like the plot for a new reality TV show: Rascals of Redmond TONIGHT on A&E!

Microsoft is dead (-1, Flamebait)

the eric conspiracy (20178) | about 8 months ago | (#46124927)

They just haven't been forgotten yet.

Re: Microsoft is dead (1)

Scowler (667000) | about 8 months ago | (#46125133)

Look how profitable they were last quarter. Mighty fine corpse, eh?

Re: Microsoft is dead (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125931)

Well, Kodak was profitable even while it was starting to spiral around in the shitter, too.

Another MS inbred (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46124945)

Yay, another inbred Microsoftie. Means nothing will change and the company will continue its long slow slide into oblivion.

Moving away from consumer products (3, Funny)

metlin (258108) | about 8 months ago | (#46124955)

I thought Microsoft was trying to re-brand itself as a devices and services player. So, what does it mean when they bring on board a technical, enterprise guy as the CEO?

To me, it would seem that they're ignoring everything Apple has taught the industry -- usability, good design, and marketing.

Instead, they'll become the next IBM and be a large behemoth who just does enterprise tech "stuff".

Quite sad. And I'm pretty sure eventually they'll eventually spin off their Xbox division.

They should move away from consumer products (4, Insightful)

mbkennel (97636) | about 8 months ago | (#46125185)


"pivot to Devices and Services" -- That's Ballmerese for "doubling down on your core incompetencies"

Why is Microsoft trying so hard to compete against highly capable Apple and Google? It's a symptom of 15 years of typical Ballmerist "ooh, shiny.. gimme! I want one too!!!"?

They just aren't institutionally set up to do so.

Plan for incoming Microsoft CEO:

0) Assume your predecessor was wrong about everything until proven otherwise.

1) Halt the re-org until you know what you're doing.

2) in addition to "Devices and Services", how about, uh, ***Business Software***???? Now that I work in a mid-large company there is all sorts of ugly and junky application software whose capabilities and quality makes Microsoft Office seem like, oh, a properly-working HAL 9000.

Instead of throwing themselves up in a pathetic siege against highly capable, wealthy and motivated, Apple and Google, why not shoot for a much softer target: Oracle (other than the relational database). People hate them more than Microsoft and their products are poor.

Microsoft's primary focus should be "Diversified Business Software": there is a large range of software across many areas with much lower existing standard capability and quality than in the consumer market. MS has the scale to attack this heavily, could actually be good here, and make money consistently.

3) Windows. Oy vey. Microsoft will remain a primary business software company forever. Deal with it. So, a plan.

* Release Windows 7.5, backporting all the internal improvements of the Win 8 series which can fit, keeping the Win 7 interface. Expect all your business to upgrade to this, and skip Win 8. It will be the new XP, and you'll support it for at least a decade. Deal with it.

* Release Windows 8.5 with slightly-less bogosity, and lower your expectations.

* Much more seriously, go to the Research group and academia and work exceptionally hard to make a truly great, innovative, non-touch desktop interface, possibly including other physical input modalities (alternate mice, hardware, who knows?) Make Windows 9 (or 10) a really big deal. Not different for merely the sake of difference, but unmistakably GOOD. Recognize the physical realities of the world and humans.

Re:They should move away from consumer products (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125953)

Re: business software... I hope you're not comparing things with SAP, Oracle (PeopleSoft, JD Edwards, etc). Microsoft does have its stable of small-medium business software too (NAVision, which is now Dynamics)... Because Microsoft's products, while limited, have just as many pain points. Integrates with SharePoint? Uh... OK. You run with that.

Re: They should move away from consumer products (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46126191)

Your last point. This is what they've *been* working on for the last *ten years*. The product of billions of R&D and acquisition?

Surface, Kinect, and Windows RT.

Who's gonna stick out another ten?

Re:Moving away from consumer products (-1, Flamebait)

Threni (635302) | about 8 months ago | (#46125205)

That's what they do though. .Net is just enterprise stuff - no-one uses it outside of large companies pointlessly reinventing the wheel using less skilled staff each year. Soon it'll just be some muppet in a suit clicking a button to install Microsoft App - a collection of messy webpages all bound to a Sql Server database using whatever technology Microsoft is using to ape Ruby and MySql that year (Linq 5 on VS 2017, costing $200,00 for the db and $42,000 per VS license) all "handled" by a carnival of clowns with no understanding of any of the principles of software development.

Re:Moving away from consumer products (3, Informative)

zifferent (656342) | about 8 months ago | (#46125333)

Seriously, if you think MySQL is anywhere near as scalable as MS SQL, you are delusional. I've used all of the database softwares out there and only MS SQL is standard, scalable and fast, Oracle is scalable and fast but not standard by a long shot, killing productivity. MySQL is neither fast, scalable nor standard. I really don't understand what anyone sees in that piece of shit when at the very least they can have PostgreSQL which excels on all accounts and is open sourced. I blame popularity contests.

Re:Moving away from consumer products (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125463)

I've used all of the database softwares out there and only MS SQL is standard, scalable and fast

MS SQL is a fork of Sybase.

RE: MS SQL is a fork of Sybase (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125685)

They United States is a fork of England, and thus must be equivalent, yes?

MS SQL left Sybase in its dust a *long* time ago.

Re:Moving away from consumer products (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125965)

And Sybase ASE and MS SQL Server have not really been all that close since... a long time.

Oracle is scalable and powerful, and is its own standard, just given the number of Oracle shops. Kind of like DB2 is its own standard, if only because it runs on a variety of platforms, including IBM's mainframes and AS400s.

Re:Moving away from consumer products (1)

mcswell (1102107) | about 8 months ago | (#46126049)

Like Yogi Berra said, when you see a fork, take it.

Re:Moving away from consumer products (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125209)

"This Swiss army knife sucks because the blade is not as sharp or long as this one". Apple and Microsoft are different platforms; not every problem has a simple or elegant solution. Question: What would Mac be if Microsoft didn't release Office for Mac?

IBM Failed because they sold their business units one by one to China and without the hardware sales, they couldn't push software and services; companies wanted a complete package. HP, Dell, Acer, they all did the same thing. Management sold the companies down the river.

MS has lost no ground on the enterprise front; part of that is closing technet and training people to use Azure cloud for labs, thus conditioning a new generation of no-nothing idiots as sales people while at the same time alienating long-term Microsoft zealots. Their development pace has picked up to such a speed that certs are now created, offered, and die before school curriculum can be put together and taught. Tech-net is effectively killing "hiring for the skill" for MS.

Building a walled garden has alienated the ecosystem they once relied upon; that ecosystem is now in full revolt. Mobile Entertainment killed using windows for Entertainment. Now companies are building purpose-built linux VM's to run their games. That trend will spread into enterprise applications, eventually.

Trend? (2)

Compuser (14899) | about 8 months ago | (#46124967)

Seems like tech companies are trending towards ultraslim CEOs. Like literally dudes who look like they just stepped out of a concentration camp. I blame Apple :)

Re:Trend? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125199)

Chairman Air

Re:Trend? (1)

sydneyfong (410107) | about 8 months ago | (#46126217)

An improvement from the "Chair in the Air" days, I suppose?

How to break the ice (2)

MikeRT (947531) | about 8 months ago | (#46125039)

Give the users what they want on the desktop. Give them what they loved about Windows 7 back and give it them for free. Maybe go so far as to offer a free copy of the previous version of Office to everyone who suffered through Windows 8.1 or 8.0.

Re:How to break the ice (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125603)

Nope. Cloud guy is going to bring you "Windows as-a-service". First 2 years free updates, then PAY UP!

Re:How to break the ice (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125623)

MS gives corp. network admins what they want on the desktop, not users. The schizophrenia regarding whether to be a thin or thick client in a corporate LAN arrangement continues unabated.

Re:How to break the ice (1)

Billly Gates (198444) | about 8 months ago | (#46126525)

Give the users what they want on the desktop. Give them what they loved about Windows 7 back and give it them for free. Maybe go so far as to offer a free copy of the previous version of Office to everyone who suffered through Windows 8.1 or 8.0.

Well if leaked screenshots of Windows 8.1 update 1 are true [twitter.com] as well as the boot to desktop which every tech site but slashdot mentioned is coming I would say MS is doing just that.

AngelWZR leaked Windows 8.1 screenshots too before other betas hit the web and is fairly reputable. That screenshot looked almost identical to Windows 7 but with the metro apps acting like regular applications in it.

Look on the bright side (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125041)

All the rats have jumped ship!

And

In ten years, there is no Micro-Soft!

So

Hellayouyeah!

Sad to see Microsoft just give-up (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125081)

Picking this guys shows the board doesn't have any plan on saving the company.

It is a cost cutting measure (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125139)

He will get H1B salary.

peace comes to microsoft (0)

Gravis Zero (934156) | about 8 months ago | (#46125151)

all the chairs at microsoft are taking a sigh of relief.

Finally (2, Funny)

Gothmolly (148874) | about 8 months ago | (#46125203)

Microsoft can Do The Needful.

The Enterprise? (1)

Trogre (513942) | about 8 months ago | (#46125239)

The enterprise remains a keyâ"perhaps the key â" customer segment for Microsoft

Really. Microsoft abandoned the enterprise market when they released Windows 7.

Re:The Enterprise? (1)

trparky (846769) | about 8 months ago | (#46125751)

No, they abandoned the enterprise market when they released that train wreck known as Windows 8.

So sick of this... (2)

wbr1 (2538558) | about 8 months ago | (#46125241)

Microsoft's revenue from cloud services has grown by several billion over the past few years, so he's shown that he can expand a business.

This only proves the person was lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time. Sure there is some skill and intelligence involved. but sitting in a chair and filing important sounding decisions while your market and revenue grow do not always imply competence.By that logic, in some respects Ballmer is a god.

From wikipedia:

Under Ballmer's tenure as CEO, Microsoft's annual revenue has surged from $25 billion to $70 billion, while its net income has increased 215 percent to $23 billion, and its gross profit of 75 cents on every dollar in sales is double that of Google or International Business Machines Corp.[20] In terms of leading the company's total annual profit growth, Ballmer's tenure at Microsoft (16.4 percent) has surpassed the performances of other well-known CEOs such as General Electric's Jack Welch (11.2 percent) and IBM's Louis V. Gerstner, Jr. (2 percent).[18]

John Thompson as Chairman? (3, Interesting)

darylb (10898) | about 8 months ago | (#46125251)

Thoughts on all of this:
1. John Thompson (former Symantec CEO) as Chairman? Oh no. Symantec produced more steaming piles of crap called "software" than any company really has a right to. This wouldn't bode well.

2. People can say what they want about consumer devices, but enterprise software is worth LOTS of money. Having a guy like Nadella that understands a lot of the enterprise angle running things is a good idea. Yeah, you can sell people a phone (with a final cost of some $500), and a bunch of $1 and $2 applications, and some fraction of a $50 monthly cell bill. OR, you can sell them an OS for each computer in the place at a cost of $30-$50, an indispensable office suite for $150 per seat, client licenses for file servers, active directory, databases, web servers, and the like, PLUS the costly licenses for the server software, PLUS annual maintenance. It's easy to see where the cash is, and it's not in consumer devices.

3. I can see why people might prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8, but most of the time people are speaking from ignorance, never having used Windows 8 (or having used it only with a mouse). It's a different beast entirely with a touch screen. As for usability, Apple is on a downward slide, IMHO. We're getting nothing but gratuitous changes in every release now, and Mavericks positively ruined an otherwise serviceable 5-year-old MacBook by destroying its performance. Windows Phone 8 is really nice, especially in the way it emphasizes the productivity uses of the phone over games and glitz. It's a lot tighter resource-wise than Android for sure.

4. Microsoft spends like four times as much on R&D as Apple does. Apple's a rather minor player in this regard.

I think Microsoft could be positioned for a real resurgence with the right leadership.

Re:John Thompson as Chairman? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125325)

I can see why people might prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8, but most of the time people are speaking from ignorance, never having used Windows 8 (or having used it only with a mouse). It's a different beast entirely with a touch screen

I paid good money for a large display with high resolution. Even if it were a touchscreen, which it is not, I'd continue to use a mouse, because I don't want to see my own grubby fingerprints all over my own work.

Re:John Thompson as Chairman? (1)

darylb (10898) | about 8 months ago | (#46125449)

The nice touchscreens resist oils on fingertips. Even my low-end Inspiron 14R laptop's touchscreen doesn't need a cleaning very often. It encourages me to wash my hands after eating the french fries, too. :)

Seriously, now that I've been using a touchscreen for a few weeks, it's WAY more natural than a mouse. Scroll bars? Feh. Reach out and touch that 3-D assembly and rotate it.

Re:John Thompson as Chairman? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125577)

Scroll bars?? Mouse users have a wheel and there's arrows too... pretty efficient. Gorilla arm while flinging? Feh.

Re:John Thompson as Chairman? (2, Insightful)

fnj (64210) | about 8 months ago | (#46125589)

Bullshit on the resistance to oils. There is no magic to make them go away. They can't do anything but sit there. It's just that some weirdos have hardly any oil on their skin. Probably no tears in their eyes or snot in their nose either. Fine for freaks of nature, sheesh. Not so great for the rest of us.

As for the fat ugly finger on the display: it is about the crudest instrument that can be imagined. A mouse pointer is just a much more precise "finger" on the display, one that can't smear. Any drag or gesture you can make with your finger can be made much more precisely with a mouse, without a big hand getting in the way of visibility. It doesn't do much for two-finger gestures, but those feel as awkward as the vulcan live-long-and-prosper sign to me. I cam't do either one.

Re:John Thompson as Chairman? (1)

darylb (10898) | about 8 months ago | (#46126403)

Sorry, but there's a difference. Compare the high-end iPhones and Galaxy devices with their oil-resistant coatings to, say, an entry level Lumia 520. (I own the latter.) The entry-level Lumia lacks the coating, and it needs a daily cleaning. My wife's iPhone 4S needs it only after a sloppy toddler coats it with spaghetti sauce or yogurt.

You're right that gestures aren't always very precise. A finger is bigger than a 2-pixel point on an arrow driven by a mouse. Yet the touchscreen allows for direct manipulation of something. Turn here, pull that, etc. I didn't think I'd like it, but, after a couple of days, I notice that I use the mouse for (as you say) very fine work. But for other stuff -- clicking OK, or resizing a window -- the touchscreen is easier.

Re:John Thompson as Chairman? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125467)

"can see why people might prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8, but most of the time people are speaking from ignorance, never having used Windows 8"

What? So, if Apple decided to put a full-screen-sized, DPI-scaled-down version of OS X onto iphones with minimal consideration for use without a mouse and keyboard, and wondered why people then hated using iPhones, "those people" would just be ignorant? After all, OS X is a great OS, why shouldn't it be great on an iPhone?

      In reality, we'd call Apple foolish (, stupid, and that version of the iPhone a failure). In precisely the same way, Windows 8 desktops are foolish (, stupid, and a failure). Also in precisely the same way, people would still buy iPhones because of the Apple's reputation and lack of knowledge about how much better it should be.

Re:John Thompson as Chairman? (0, Troll)

Alomex (148003) | about 8 months ago | (#46125767)

I can see why people might prefer Windows 7 to Windows 8, but most of the time people are speaking from ignorance, never having used Windows 8 (or having used it only with a mouse). It's a different beast entirely with a touch screen.

Windows 8 sucks for reasons much beyond the metro interface. Here's an example: no matter what your personal settings about half of the windows updates will override them and randomly change your logon background page and the presence of the logon page itself.

Here's another one, when you open a picture with the new built in photo app, none of the obvious commands advances you to the next picture in the file folder.

Another one, once you set icon sizes to your own preference, every time you restart they may revert back to the original size, and then back to small size, with no apparent pattern for its change of heart.

I can go on and on. The whole thing is a kludge.

Same as Apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46126067)

This is the same as Apple does. I have both an ipad and surface and settings are reset during updates. Serious question, is Android different?

Dooooooomed! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125267)

MS' dominance is doomed. Free productivity offerings are quickly encircling Office which is just too damned expensive, Linux, iOS and Android are stomping Windows in terms of number of installations, more work is being done to move drivers and apps to Linux on the desktop, IIS has small market share and probably shrinking, IE's market share is shrinking, XBox One is relatively a dud, Logitech is outselling MS by a larger margin in the PC hardware accessory arena, MS has no real strategy for the smartphone or the tablet, and every other device or idea they generate seems to fail, like that shitty digital brick they called the Zune, for instance.

They're being run aground by markets that are changing faster than they can adapt imo, and they're not showing any creativity or willingness to innovate and respond to new developments in computing. For instance: Windows 8 on a fucking phone? Who wants that crap? No one. People wants tablets and phones, for the most part, not ugly, lumbering beasts of burden like that shoggoth OS they're trying to push.

Momentum man. p=mv. They're big and heavy and it's going to take a lot to stop and move in a different direction, and I'm not even sure they know which direction to go.

Their industry dominance is dead in the near term, really. If content creation apps go to Linux and if PC games can be ported to a 3D api like DX on Linux, what's left? Sure they'll always have some crap people will buy, but...they're not the chieftain lion in the computing savannah any more, and that's increasingly clear to anyone who looks.

Nervall's Lobster is a sham account (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125365)

Nervall's Lobster is an account that Slashdot's content-filler, Nick Kolakowski, uses to post his own material.

If you look at the Nervall's Lobster account history, you will see that that user
a) makes no comments, and
b) only posts stories that link to one of the Slashdot spinoff sites

Given that Nick Kolakowski is a Slashdot Editor, I don't know why he didn't simply post this article under his own name.

I do know that their behavior is dishonest.

They sell something other than exchange? (1)

sgt scrub (869860) | about 8 months ago | (#46125529)

Three Microsoft things I hear about the least, SkyDrive, Azure, and Office 365. Does Microsoft's "Cloud and Enterprise division" equate to Hyper-V?

Re:They sell something other than exchange? (1)

real-modo (1460457) | about 8 months ago | (#46126355)

Two things I hear about the least: Active Directory and Exchange. Those are Microsoft's core products.

Azure is Microsoft's response to Amazon elastic compute. Skydrive...for most people, is a Dropbox knock-off. Office 365 (again: for most people) is a blatant attempt to extract more revenue from Office. Active directory? Best in class? Exchange...what else are you going to use? Lotus Notes? POP3 mail and paper calendars?

Re:They sell something other than exchange? (2)

darylb (10898) | about 8 months ago | (#46126393)

Skydrive (soon to be OneDrive, after their settlement with Sky Network) is more than a Dropbox knockoff. It's more similar to Google Drive. Namely, it's an online storage area for documents that aren't tied to a particular computer. Edit that Word document on your Windows Phone? Save it to Skydrive, and it'll magically appear on your tablet or desktop.

Office 365 is just following in the steps (or alongside of) Adobe in offering a continual-pricing model. You get all the upgrades, and the up-front price is cheaper than a perpetual license. But you'll pay the annual fee perpetually. It DOES cover up to 5 machines. Whether it's what any given person wants is up to them. Being the family dad, I can see the appeal of having the software available for everyone in the house to use, on whatever machine. I don't like the recurring cost, though.

Active Directory has displaced pretty much all the other directory services. There's some suckage with it, but less suckage than their former competitors.

Exchange! Microsoft was the one company that, over time, figured out how email-contacts-calendar-todo-scheduling should really work in an in-house environment. (Google's suite in the cloud works well, but companies won't want a cloud solution for corporate-wide use.) I hated Outlook forever. DESPISED IT. In the end, the Outlook-Exchange combo does a lot of very valuable things. As you note, Lotus is hardly a competitor, and POP3/IMAP solutions are stone knives and bearskins compared to Exchange/Outlook.

The rumors of Microsoft's demise are premature. They need some fresh leadership, to be sure. But there's lots of talent and lots of research at Microsoft, backed up by their entrenchment in a lot of companies' infrastructure. It'll be a long time replacing all of that.

Re: They sell something other than exchange? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46126551)

Skydrive pre-dates Dropbox. You meant Dropbox is a knockoff of Skydrive. Skydrive is an evolution of Live Mesh.

Let's Hear It For More of the Same! (3, Interesting)

organgtool (966989) | about 8 months ago | (#46125559)

For a little while, I was afraid that Microsoft would choose someone from outside of their own toxic corporate culture and regain at least a little bit of the dominance they once had. Now that it seems likely they will choose someone who has been drinking the Microsoft KoolAid for several decades, I am suddenly much less worried. Then again, these "leaks" could just be schemes from the board to get the press, business writers, and public at large to critique each candidate for them like one giant focus group.

Re:Let's Hear It For More of the Same! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46125887)

these "leaks" could just be schemes from the board to get the press, business writers, and public at large to critique each candidate for them like one giant focus group.

No. This is like watching GWB invade Iraq. You were really hoping that it was just a head fake so that he could reinforce Afghanistan and put the scare in Sadam on the way. No. They really did it. Idiots.

DIE SLASHDOT BI DIE (1)

Bill, Shooter of Bul (629286) | about 8 months ago | (#46125593)

Just posting agian to complain about Slashdot/dice posting links to Buisness Intelligence. Terrible. Horrible. Absolutely hate it with all my being. Stop actually trying to write terrible articles and focus on your core strengths: editing story summaries terribly.

Outsourcing (1)

onyxruby (118189) | about 8 months ago | (#46125807)

I have to wonder what will happen to their outsourcing efforts if a person from India is made CEO? Microsoft already has well over 10,000 jobs outsourced to India as it is now? That being said their enterprise division generally seems to be run much more competently than their other divisions and he may well be the best candidate for the job.

See, slashdot is a crap now (1)

oldhack (1037484) | about 8 months ago | (#46126087)

Back in the days, a few microsofties who worked with/for this guy would chime in with some interesting observation.

Now? It's all bullshit comments, including this one by me.

He used to run Bing. (1)

Animats (122034) | about 8 months ago | (#46126255)

Nadella used to run Bing. Bing had a leadership vacuum after he left (and still does), but it didn't do all that great while he was there.

Microsoft's approach to Bing upper management is very strange. Microsoft sends people there, but you never hear about them while they're there. You hear about them after they're promoted to better parts of Microsoft. Mark Penn was brought in to turn around Bing, and accomplished little there. Now he heads Microsoft Advertising. Qi Lu ran Bing for a while, and now he's head of Applications and Services. So failing to turn Bing around doesn't seem to hurt executive careers at Microsoft.

Re:He used to run Bing. (1)

Tough Love (215404) | about 8 months ago | (#46126653)

Bing apparently had a leadership vacuum while he was leading it.

Obama Leads The Band (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46126295)

On a DC street near K President Barak Obama wearing a mini-skirt and halter-top holding a BIG baton leads the marching band.

WE

Are Blazing Saddles

WE

Are Blazing Saddles

WE

Are Blazing Saddles

FIGHT FOR DC.

Ha ha

At least he's a systems guy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46126303)

At least he's a systems guy. They could have gone the way HP did and hire business boffins (MBA's and whatnot). And they do the business-efficient thing at every turn. And the company downsizes. And they get rid of engineers: we have already invented and developed everything and engineers are expensive: so bonuses for the bosses. Next we increase prices, purchase product lines from other countries, offshore everything and save even more: so bonuses for the bosses. Next we sell off key technologies to competitors for one-time windfall profits: so bonuses for bosses. Then we "right size" followed by "down size" all local manufacturing, close 3 old plants and 2 new ones, record a better profit/expense ratio: so bonuses for bosses. Finally we are left with corporate headquarters: overseas manufacturing and engineering, offshore call centre, 3rd party marketing, 3rd party accounting. We lease patents and sell off other intellectual property for one-time windfall profits: so bonuses for bosses. Corporate head count seems high: senior management accepts a buyout/golden-parachute/golden-handshake for doing such a wonderful job: each leave with $10,000,000 exit payout, as a final act they lease part of corporate headquarters to competitor: take an extra final bonus. 2 days later stock is de-listed, traded over-the-counter on pink sheets.

Who would have guessed (1)

Tough Love (215404) | about 8 months ago | (#46126643)

Who would have guessed that Billg lacks the balls to bring in an outsider and instead will name yet another tired old insider retread to the job. Here is hoping that the fail is massive, even eclipsing Ballmer.

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