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The Bitcoin Death Star: KnC Plans 10 Megawatt Data Center In Sweden

timothy posted about 6 months ago | from the you'll-heat-up-the-whole-place dept.

Bitcoin 250

1sockchuck writes "Bitcoin hardware vendor KnC Miner has begun construction on a a 10 megawatt data center in Sweden that it will fill with high-powered computers mining for cryptocurrency. KnC has emerged as a leading vendor in the volatile market for ASIC mining rigs, focusing on underpromising and overdelivering. One goal of its move into cloud mining is to cushion any fallout from delivery delays on new hardware, which have been a sore point for miners in the fast-moving Bitcoin market. "Over the next few months we are bringing online enough hashing power to make sure that any delay in the Neptune timeline will be compensated with a completely free hosted hashing packages to all fully paid customers," KnC says in its newsletter."

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Pfft (-1, Flamebait)

tom229 (1640685) | about 6 months ago | (#46174983)

Pfft.. that's not even a single jiggawatt [youtube.com] .

Re:Pfft (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175007)

They need that much power to render the Slashdot Beta javascript.

Re:Pfft (5, Insightful)

cheesybagel (670288) | about 6 months ago | (#46175151)

If money is the tool of the Devil then Bitcoin is even worse. Exponentially wasting electricity and semiconducts to generate a unique numeric key. Great!

Re:Pfft (1, Insightful)

fredprado (2569351) | about 6 months ago | (#46175193)

That describes practically every data transaction we do involving money in this world, and it is still much better than printing paper and transferring it by truck, train or plane between one place and the other.

Re:Pfft (2)

Goaway (82658) | about 6 months ago | (#46175361)

That describes practically every data transaction we do involving money in this world,

No, it does not, in any way.

Re:Pfft (5, Insightful)

ShanghaiBill (739463) | about 6 months ago | (#46175475)

Exponentially wasting electricity and semiconducts to generate a unique numeric key.

It is far better than the damage done by gold mining, which can result in erosion and mercury contamination. But even the environmental damage done by gold mining is better than Slashdot Beta.

Re:Pfft (0)

u38cg (607297) | about 6 months ago | (#46175157)

Is that more or less than a jiggafuckbeta?

Who is jiggawatt? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175347)

Sounds like some dude from Thailand. Who is he?

Re:Pfft (1)

sunderland56 (621843) | about 6 months ago | (#46175403)

When did they start measuring data centres in how much electricity they consume? What happened to megaflops, or MIPS, or TPS ?

Re:Pfft (2)

omnichad (1198475) | about 6 months ago | (#46175469)

When they're big enough to require their own power plant?

Now even bitcoin miners have better planning (4, Insightful)

i kan reed (749298) | about 6 months ago | (#46174989)

than whoever planned slashdot beta.

Re:Now even bitcoin miners have better planning (5, Informative)

tburkhol (121842) | about 6 months ago | (#46175513)

From Dice's quarterly report:

Corporate & Other segment revenues decreased 9% year-over-year to $4.3 million for the quarter ended December 31, 2013 from the comparable 2012 period, due primarily to the financial results at Slashdot Media.

Message: slashdot is losing money, and something needs to change very fast. Whatever /.'s current user base is, it is not a profitable set of consumers, and Dice appears not to be worried if their non-profitable customers go away.

Why not just keep it? (5, Insightful)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 6 months ago | (#46175015)

Why not just keep the Bitcoins they mine?

Why not just keep Slashdot Classic? Fuck beta.

Re:Why not just keep it? (5, Funny)

Joce640k (829181) | about 6 months ago | (#46175197)

Because mining the Bitcoin miners is more profitable.

Re:Why not just keep it? (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175511)

Because mining the Bitcoin miners is more profitable.

...and definitely more productive that trying to use Slashbeta

Why sell a money press? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175545)

Exactly! Why would anyone in their right mind sell a magic money press? Develop the ASICs and run it yourself is the only way to get rich here.

There are other companies like Butterfly Labs doing exactly this. Their "shipping date" is conveniently right about when mining difficulty gets hard enough that their product is only marginally viable and for a short time at that. You have to know that the ASICs exist right now and they're using them until the profit curve is right to sell. Any other course of action would be stupid.

Re:Why not just keep it? (4, Funny)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 6 months ago | (#46175209)

Everyone these days wants to fuck beta. How about a few of us show some charity, drop trow, and fuck alpha too?

Expected response (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175341)

"If you like your classic slashdot. You can keep your classic slashdot."

Re:Expected response (4, Insightful)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 6 months ago | (#46175559)

Actually, IIRC, when Dice bought Slashdot, that's pretty much exactly what they said. They gave the usual, BS "We promise we won't change anything guys," spill. Of course, 5 minutes after saying that, they started fucking with stuff. Some of the most embarrassing were those paid sponsor videos they started trying to pass off as regular submissions. You would think that they would have known better than to try to bullshit such an intelligent userbase with some retard-obvious shit like that.

Re:Why not just keep it? (5, Insightful)

niado (1650369) | about 6 months ago | (#46175527)

Just like in a physical gold-rush - sometimes it is better to just sell shovels.

Re:Why not just keep it? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175551)

In a gold rush, you want to be the one selling the shovels. duh

Slashdot death rattle (4, Insightful)

east coast (590680) | about 6 months ago | (#46175017)

The Beta will mark an end to some of the most informative and most insightful users from their daily input on Slashdot. Many have voiced disgust but Dice has decided to be tight lipped and head strong in the face of civil disruption.

If you want a progressive and forward thinking Slashdot you must voice your opinion on the matter now. Dice is moving to what will certainly be a call for exodus.

Why would Dice buy Slashdot only to destroy it?

Re:Slashdot death rattle (4, Interesting)

Viol8 (599362) | about 6 months ago | (#46175073)

Seems to me its a simply case of some web devs justifying their jobs. It doesn't matter if its better or worse - its different and that means they can show some pointy haired managers just how much work they've done and get a pat on the back and potentially prevent their jobs being outsourced to a body shop in Bombangalore for another year or 2.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (2, Insightful)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 6 months ago | (#46175309)

And if people don't like it, and stubbornly keep choosing the classic interface--no problem. Just FORCE it on them!

Re:Slashdot death rattle (0)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about 6 months ago | (#46175457)

The main issue is that slash dot is losing hecka money right now. Any change is better than no change in their eyes, because no change leads to turning out the lights.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (1)

Gavagai80 (1275204) | about 6 months ago | (#46175745)

How is it possible to lose money on a site where the content is all user generated and there are both ads and subscriptions? Don't tell me they're paying top dollar for their "editors"...

Re:Slashdot death rattle (4, Informative)

sinij (911942) | about 6 months ago | (#46175085)

I don't understand anyone would think "Beta" is anything other than a disaster, but someone please post where we all going to move to.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (2)

east coast (590680) | about 6 months ago | (#46175229)

An excellent question. This could be the foot-in-the-door some motivated young webdevs are looking for. I'm open to new sites that are willing to take on the feel of the Slashdot community without any of the mind numbingly stupid looks of beta.

I hope these people who are interested in taking up the reigns and perhaps becoming a voice for the science and tech enthusiasts will step forward with URLs and ideas that are being waylaid by Dice.

This is an opportunity that is looking for a taker. The time is now.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (1)

aaarrrgggh (9205) | about 6 months ago | (#46175401)

Too bad Taco's new site is even worse than Beta...

Re:Slashdot death rattle (2)

Koen Lefever (2543028) | about 6 months ago | (#46175441)

someone please post where we all going to move to.

Check out AltSlashdot [altslashdot.org] .

Re:Slashdot death rattle (4, Informative)

TheNastyInThePasty (2382648) | about 6 months ago | (#46175101)

Slashdot is officially being actively destroyed because it doesn't make enough advertising revenue anymore [twst.com]

From the report:

Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 million of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (1)

cheesybagel (670288) | about 6 months ago | (#46175171)

Try to pick advertisers who make products people reading Slashdot actually care about for a change.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175351)

Like all the slashvertisements for bitcoin?

Re:Slashdot death rattle (1)

Ngarrang (1023425) | about 6 months ago | (#46175485)

Are you proposing that tampon ads inappropriate? The Ladies of Slashdot might find themselves wanting a new brand, you insensitive clod.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (4, Interesting)

JWW (79176) | about 6 months ago | (#46175287)

You know, I wouldn't fuss if they removed the disable ads checkbox in my classic mode. I'd live with it.

But the beta site is garbage.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (2)

egcagrac0 (1410377) | about 6 months ago | (#46175591)

The disable ads checkbox doesn't cost nearly so much money as the horde of site visitors running adblock... which given that many of us are technically inclined, is most of us.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (1)

avandesande (143899) | about 6 months ago | (#46175655)

I left the ads on to help support ./, even though I can turn it off.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (1)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 6 months ago | (#46175371)

If Dice would stop chasing off users with one stupid fucking move after another, maybe more advertisers would come. Slashdot used to have a userbase where 1,000+ comments on a story was pretty common, and even big sites could be "Slashdotted." When's the last time you saw THAT?

Here's a hint, it was before Taco sold to Dice.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (1)

Ralph Wiggam (22354) | about 6 months ago | (#46175479)

and even big sites could be "Slashdotted." When's the last time you saw THAT?

Here's a hint, it was before Taco sold to Dice.

To be fair, the state of site hosting has changed a lot in the past few years. Even the reddit front page, which drives a ton more traffic than this site ever did, very rarely brings down a site anymore.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (1)

2phar (137027) | about 6 months ago | (#46175407)

Thanks for re-posting. Funny how when I posted it gradually reaching +5 Informative over an hour, and then suddenly went to 0 Offtopic.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175595)

Go back through the last few stories, posts related to Beta are being mod-bombed across the board.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (1)

aaarrrgggh (9205) | about 6 months ago | (#46175423)

So, can we have a user's buyout of /. then? I'll pledge $20 for first year operating costs.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175599)

Slashdot is officially being actively destroyed because it doesn't make enough advertising revenue anymore [twst.com]

From the report:

How profitable would Dice be if they had not sunk ("literally") the money they did into the purchase of /.???

Perhaps "adventures" like /. should remain someone's late night hacking project that they share/run with their friends. In that mode it might have been "self-sustaining", but definitely not a replacement for a good "day job".

So, Slashbeta...please drop off the face of the earth or fall into a crevass in the earth's surface...or better yet, start exploring space and get sucked into a black hole. Any of those horrible endings for you would be better than the torture imposed upon your wacky, fanatical, and kinda loyal community.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (4, Informative)

JWW (79176) | about 6 months ago | (#46175227)

I have been reading/commenting at /. since 1998.

I have a 5 digit userid (of course the beta won't display that anymore).

I'm gone if the beta is forced on me.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (2)

wakaranai (87059) | about 6 months ago | (#46175439)

Ditto

Beta commenting is confusing. Who knows where thi (1)

soab (55718) | about 6 months ago | (#46175473)

It will no longer be an obvious badge as we're all just a name over in Beta.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (4, Insightful)

Ralph Wiggam (22354) | about 6 months ago | (#46175495)

Beta is taking away my OG userid? This aggression will not stand, man.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175775)

At the rate people are complaining about beta, even if Slashdot reverses their decision in a month or two and never forces beta on people, a lot of people will already be gone. Beta sucks, but it seems moot now that comments to stories are unreadable in beta or classic because of all the beta spam.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (2)

Valdrax (32670) | about 6 months ago | (#46175779)

I have a 5 digit userid (of course the beta won't display that anymore).

I didn't even notice that. Geez, it's like they really are just trying to kick all the old users in the teeth with this design.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175235)

The Beta will mark an end to some of the most informative and most insightful users from their daily input on Slashdot. Many have voiced disgust but Dice has decided to be tight lipped and head strong in the face of civil disruption.

If you want a progressive and forward thinking Slashdot you must voice your opinion on the matter now. Dice is moving to what will certainly be a call for exodus.

Why would Dice buy Slashdot only to destroy it?

Welcome, Pilgrim.

To end is to begin. You cannot have everything, and seek nothingness.

Good luck

3301

Re:Slashdot death rattle (3, Insightful)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 6 months ago | (#46175281)

One of the biggest annoyances I found in the beta is the way it handles comments in the User section. Right now, in classic, I can do a quick check of all my posts and see all the replies and mods to said posts in one nice table. In the beta, I can only see them one comment at a time (and have to click on each one to see if there were any replies or mods). Not to sound like a narcissist, but I do like to keep track of replies to my posts. And the shitty beta makes it almost impossible to do that.

But on the upside, I get to see all my Slashdot "Trophies" on the left!! Woo hoo!!

Seriously, trophies???? Wtf??

Re:Slashdot death rattle (1)

dysmal (3361085) | about 6 months ago | (#46175333)

Why would Dice buy Slashdot only to destroy it?

Because some asshats are trying to justify their existence as they try to build "the next big thing". What web clowns don't get and never will get is that IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT!

Re:Slashdot death rattle (1)

dciman (106457) | about 6 months ago | (#46175459)

While my user ID isn't terribly low. I would stop reading and contributing to /. if the "beta" goes through. It's terrible.

Re:Slashdot death rattle (1)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 6 months ago | (#46175579)

It's a real shame. In it's heyday, Slashdot was a pretty fucking amazing place to be.

NSA (1)

Threni (635302) | about 6 months ago | (#46175019)

They could *own* bitcoin if they wanted, surely (with their processing power, I mean) Why haven't they?

Re:NSA (1)

Ralph Wiggam (22354) | about 6 months ago | (#46175199)

The NSA has no motive to do so. Despite lofty proclamations about changing the world, every bitcoin in existence has a combined value less than $10B. In the big picture of the global economy, that's negligible.

Re:NSA (1)

Joce640k (829181) | about 6 months ago | (#46175251)

every bitcoin in existence has a combined value less than $10B.

Are you sure? It's just gone crashing down again....

Re:NSA (1)

Ralph Wiggam (22354) | about 6 months ago | (#46175643)

Where are you seeing that? I'm seeing a drop from $820 to $790 over the course of a week. I used 12M bitcoins at $800.

Re:NSA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175217)

Probably because it's easier to let the FBI bust all the illicit drug dealers and take their BTC, one stash at a time. And it won't be long before they find a way to outlaw btc entirely, and then they'll just take it from all the public btc wallet sites and exchanges directly.

Re:NSA (1)

NiteMair (309303) | about 6 months ago | (#46175325)

Keep in mind, bitcoin can't simply be generated all at once - it is released to the network in specific blocks at predefined times that get smaller and smaller over time.

In fact, over half of all bitcoin that will ever be created ever will be, and the rest will take another 100+ years to complete.

The only advantage of having the biggest mining operation in town is to increase your chances of getting those blocks when they're released...

Translation (0)

Viol8 (599362) | about 6 months ago | (#46175021)

"Company finds new online betting infrastructure cash cow"

Yup , just set up some cloud bitcoin mining facilities and charge some mugs a load of money of which 99% of them don't have a hope in hell of recovering via any bitcoins they recover.

I wonder if you can pay for the service in bitcoins? Now wouldn't that be ironic.

enough... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175029)

The constant BS about the beta will put people off the site, nevermind the content or look and feel... I think people get it....

Re:enough... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175147)

Of course, the troll in me feel happy about you.
--
[Fuck Beta]

This layout sucks. Ax it already. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175031)

Fuck you, Dice. No one wants this beta bullshit.

Ah, but will it Fuck Beta? (5, Funny)

denzacar (181829) | about 6 months ago | (#46175047)

Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to mine Bitcoin is insignificant next to the power of the Fuck Beta.

Re:Ah, but will it Fuck Beta? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175243)

I find your lack of FUCK BETA disturbing!!!

Re:Ah, but will it Fuck Beta? (5, Informative)

DaTrueDave (992134) | about 6 months ago | (#46175493)

I will be joining in the Slashcott from Feb 10-Feb 17.

Re:Ah, but will it Fuck Beta? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175675)

Your mom will fuck Beta.

Nobetanobetanobetanobeta... (5, Interesting)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | about 6 months ago | (#46175055)

If the "new site" had been designed by competent programmers, then it would have been a trivial matter to swap between the "new" and "old" interfaces. Apparently it is not. They must have hired the contractors that couldn't get a job working on healthcare.gov.

Continue to turn the comments threads into a trash heap to drive people away. And don't forget to turn on your ad blocker. Do what you can to get their attention until they publicly acknowledge that this is a mistake -- because they're not going to pay attention otherwise.

Re:Nobetanobetanobetanobeta... (1)

kharchenko (303729) | about 6 months ago | (#46175283)

Hear Ye! Hear Ye! Fuck Beta!

Boycott (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175061)

Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet.

On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.

Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this [slashdot.org] in a new tab. After seeing that, click here [slashdot.org] to return to classic Slashdot.

We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott [slashdot.org]

Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

Discussion of Beta: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=56395415 [slashdot.org]
Discussion of where to go if Beta goes live: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3321441 [slashdot.org]
Alternative Slashdot: altslashdot.org [altslashdot.org] (thanks Okian Warrior (537106))

Re:Boycott (2)

mrvan (973822) | about 6 months ago | (#46175301)

Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system

Warning: stupid question ahead!

Okay I've seen beta and browsed for about 5 minutes. I seems to me like a fairly trivial redesign from something that is ugly (but feels like home) to something that is just plain ugly. Below the articles are the familiar comments with mod points in a tree structure that most of the time doesn't make a lot of sense, and a way to filter on comment quality (moderation). I don't see how this is so difficult from the current system, so I probably missed something somewhere.

  Can you explain how it is breaking the discussion/moderation system?

Re:Boycott (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175431)

This post explains it well:
http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4756871&cid=46166983 [slashdot.org]

The comment threshold system is fundamentally broken.

This is the part that kills me. As far as I can tell, there is no way to expand/view the parents or children of highly-moderated posts without viewing at -1, at which point the highly-moderated posts get lost in the noise. Lots of "Funny" replies where I can't even open the parent post to get the context of the joke.

Re:Boycott (2)

mrvan (973822) | about 6 months ago | (#46175681)

Hmm, that is kind of stupid, but that should be easy to solve, no?

The 'moderate' link/button is also stupid, but that's quite minor.

One of the lessons I learnt last year is "never change more than one thing at the same time if it can be avoided". Why did they not just change the ui, keeping the system intact, or change the system, keeping the ui intact? Then, if the new system works, they can always change the ui...

Re:Boycott (1, Interesting)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about 6 months ago | (#46175703)

Agreed, it seems fine for my uses. The comment trees have a cleaner layout. Presumably they'll keep on backfilling functionality. I'm less a fan of the new story selections that have a commercial bent. Which cloud hosting provider is best, you guys?

Re:Boycott (1)

DaTrueDave (992134) | about 6 months ago | (#46175505)

I will be joining in the Slashcott from Feb 10-Feb 17. This is ridiculous.

Re:Boycott (0, Flamebait)

the_olo (160789) | about 6 months ago | (#46175663)

Well, given the diversity of Slashdot audience and their nonexistent ability to organize, a boycott is unlikely to effect any real change.

On the other hand, Alice Hill - President at Slashdot Media [linkedin.com] or some of her bosses from Dice Holdings [diceholdingsinc.com] , like Michael P. Durney - President and CEO [diceholdingsinc.com] or Klavs Miller - Senior Vice President, Technology [diceholdingsinc.com] can be quite effective in stopping this madness and idiotic destruction of value, if they care to understand the problem at hand.

I don't think all of this would happen if they realized that Slashdot's value doesn't stem from it as a news site (of which there are thousands), but as a news discussion site.

Messing with the comment, moderation and social functionalities and their design over here is playing with fire.

I don't think these folks understand that people don't come to Slashdot to read carefully selected news (which are not, BTW) in a pretty-glossy presentation, but to participate in or consume/read the discussion. And the new Beta demolishes that.

If someone else better skilled in writing would make a petition on http://www.petitiononline.com/ [petitiononline.com] and direct it at those guys, that would be so much more effective than ranting here in comments, which these people probably had never looked at, or trying to organize boycotts among a disorganized crowd.

I am Slashdot (5, Informative)

OzPeter (195038) | about 6 months ago | (#46175087)

I submit stories. I read stories. I add comments. I moderate comments. I am the reason that there is ad revenue.

I am Slashdot.

Re:I am Slashdot (3, Funny)

dmbasso (1052166) | about 6 months ago | (#46175315)

I submit stories. I read stories. I add comments. I moderate comments. I am the reason that there is ad revenue. I am uglier than an ass-hole stabbing. I went full retard, and never recovered.

I am Slashdot beta.

FTFY. :)

Re:I am Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175397)

Fuck Beta!

Re:I am Slashdot (1)

ObsessiveMathsFreak (773371) | about 6 months ago | (#46175653)

I'm Slashdot!

Bitcoin + Death Star = awesome? (2)

dysmal (3361085) | about 6 months ago | (#46175105)

I would be interested in reading the summary buuuuuuuuut... Fuck you Beta. Hard. With fiberglass insulation for lube.

Better than Butterfly Labs.. (1)

Nightbrood (6060) | about 6 months ago | (#46175107)

Bitcoin mining is a boat I missed and I have no intention of trying to swim halfway across the channel to catch it. If KnC can actually over deliver and under promise then the more power to them. It would sure beat the Butterfly Labs debacle. Like any gold rush, I wonder if the only people getting rich are the ones selling the shovels.

Speaking of shovels... can someone help me bury Slashdot Beta?

fuckbeta

Beta vs Classic Slashdot... (1)

bayankaran (446245) | about 6 months ago | (#46175189)

What are the ways this community can keep alive the classic Slashdot...if not today, tomorrow some sort of 'improvement' will be forced up on the site and it will be too late.
What about a new website following open source ideals? Or what about a fund to buy Slashdot from Dice? Or bribe the managers and PHBs so that they keep the classic version alive?
There should be a way out.

Fuck Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175221)

from an AC too.

My First post (5, Informative)

cageybee (704704) | about 6 months ago | (#46175265)

I've been a lurker for a long time, probably a couple of years before registering for an account, and have never posted a thing (I have moderated over the years) I'm going to break that tradition now for: Beta is awful, please please keep access to Classic. I cannot read Beta on any device other than my home PC. If I can't read your site, I will not be coming back. Please do not completely break Slashdot

Re:My First post (2)

David_W (35680) | about 6 months ago | (#46175747)

I hate OT posting, but I'm going to do it anyway this time... I'm sorta with you there, in that I just added a signature to my account for the first time ever, just to decry the state of Beta. I'm disappointed that none of the complaints we've registered over the last few months have been addressed at all.

Here's what's still wrong with Beta that particularly vexes me:
- Contrast is awful. Too much gray everywhere.
- Sidebar takes up way too much space, particularly when it is carried through in the comments section. Slashdot is about the comments, period. (Also that darn footer is way too big too, although that doesn't affect the usability, just the appearance.)
- The Read More crap. I don't want to see part of the article or part of the comments, I want to see it all.
- "Shazbot! We ran into some trouble getting the comments. Try again... na-nu, na-nu!" I know that shouldn't continue once it is out of beta, but it still tells me the emphasis is on the wrong thing. Slashdot is about the comments!
- Yes, this one is silly, but we are geeks... we don't want to know it was posted "about an hour ago", we want to know it was posted at 2014-02-06T17:52:00Z...
- And did I mention, Slashdot is about the comments?

Amazingly enough, I'm pretty fine with Classic the way it is. You want to have the goofy beta interface as an option, go for it. Leave Classic as a permanent option and we'll be cool. Just stop trying to be like Gnome, Firefox, and Microsoft and presume you know what's good for us even if we don't, because while we may not, really, you don't either!

Interesting Post (1)

jazman_777 (44742) | about 6 months ago | (#46175267)

In that it continues showing off the problems of the beta site. Thanks for the reminder! DOWN WITH THE BETA.

About the proposed boycott (5, Insightful)

knarf (34928) | about 6 months ago | (#46175359)

I've seen many calls for a boycott, and such a thing might be in order to get the powers that be to understand that the future of /. is rather bleak without actively participating users.

One thing is missing from these boycott calls: a means of communication before, during and after the proposed boycott. Without such a means of communication nobody will know whether the boycott is successful or not. At the most they'll head for /. - thereby negating the effect of the proposed boycott - to see whether it is as empty as intended.

If anyone has a suggestion for a good place to discuss and connect during the boycott, please speak up. Understand that many /.-ers are wary of all the social boondoggery which infests the web so don't come with suggestions like 'facebook' or 'twitter'. A newsgroup would work, as would another discussion forum. That newsgroup should have a web interface, preferably one which does not require you to login using a Google/Yahoo/Microsoft/Facebook/Twitter/other-big-data-vacuum account.

Any suggestions?

Re:About the proposed boycott (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175609)

A pretty cool guy with a 4 digit UID made #slashdot-refugees on freenode. That would be one option.

Re:About the proposed boycott (1)

knarf (34928) | about 6 months ago | (#46175807)

IRC is good for ephemeral communications but it is inferior for more long-term discussions. A web forum is probably best given the target audience.

Re:About the proposed boycott (1)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about 6 months ago | (#46175731)

The boycott is the wrong approach. Better to protest by clogging up the comment threads with #fuckbeta until they abandon plans.

VHS_Mob (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175373)

Now that the VHS_Mob controls this Deathstar we will crush and Betas that oppose us!!
FUCK BETA

Dice Jumps the Shark (1)

skillrod (555920) | about 6 months ago | (#46175533)

Please remove the Beta so we can get back to enjoying our dayjobs.
F the B

What a waste of electricity (2)

gnasher719 (869701) | about 6 months ago | (#46175561)

This is really totally stupid. So they are wasting 10,000 kilowatt of electrical power on some artificial "currency".

Re:What a waste of electricity (1, Insightful)

KermodeBear (738243) | about 6 months ago | (#46175689)

What about the currency is artificial? It is no more artificial than the US Dollar. One is just generated using an algorithm while the other is generated by updating a row in some bank's database or by literal printing of dollars.

Neither has an intrinsic value. The numbers in your bank account right now have no intrinsic value. They only have value because people will accept your numbers in exchange for their goods and services. Things like BitCoin are no different. It has value not because it has an inherent value, but because someone is willing to offer you other things for it.

How much... (1)

Brad_McBad (1423863) | about 6 months ago | (#46175607)

... of those bitcoins will it cost to fuck beta?

The Slashdot effect has been replaced. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46175617)

It is now known as the FuckBeta effect.

Slashdot Beta's Death Star (1, Flamebait)

Robotron23 (832528) | about 6 months ago | (#46175725)

CowboyNeal: Governor Alice. I should have expected to find you holding Beta's leash. I recognized your foul stench when I was brought onboard.

Alice Hill: Charming to the last. You don't know how hard I found it, signing the order to terminate Slashdot.

CowboyNeal: [sarcastically] I'm surprised you had the courage to take the responsibility yourself.

Hill: CowboyNeal, before Slashdot's execution, I would like you to be my guest at a ceremony that will make the Beta shitfest operational. No tech site will dare oppose Dice now.

CowboyNeal: The more you tighten your grip, Hill, the more tech sites will slip through your fingers.

Hill: Not after we demonstrate the power of this revamp. In a way, you have determined the choice of the website that will be destroyed first. Since you are reluctant to provide us with the location of the rogue site relaunch base, I have chosen to implement Beta's destructive power on your favorite website of Slashdot.

CowboyNeal: [shocked] No! Slashdot is peaceful. We have no hot grits. You can't possibly–

Hill: You would prefer another target? Then name the system! [stepping closer to CowboyNeal and pinning him against Slashdot's editors] I grow tired of asking this, so it will be the last time. Where is the revamp based?

CowboyNeal: [looks at Slashdot for a moment, then, resigned] AltSlashdot. They're on AltSlashdot.

Hill: There. You see, editors? She can be reasonable. [to sysadmin] Continue with the operation. You may launch Beta when ready.

CowboyNeal: [panicked] What?!

Hill: You are far too trusting. AltSlashdot is too small to make an effective demonstration, but don't worry. We will deal with your revivalist friends soon enough.

CowboyNeal: No!

Fuck Beta! Everyone get in touch with Alice Hill, the person who actually runs the show at Dice - her LinkedIn [linkedin.com] .

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