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Is Intel Selling Bay Trail Chips Below Cost?

timothy posted about 3 months ago | from the consumers-win dept.

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edxwelch writes "An analyst at Bernstein Research has found that Intel is selling their tablet Bay Trail chips to OEMs below cost, concluding that after end rebates, Intel's tablet revenues are likely to be "close to zero," while profits will be negative. Intel has responded that the 'special costs' Intel is incurring are not pushing down gross margin. Intel needs to offer the subsidies to OEMs building $199-$299 devices to bring the bill of materials down and make them competive with cheaper chips from the likes of MediaTek and Rockchip."

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Didn't this get them in trouble before? (-1, Flamebait)

jeffb (2.718) (1189693) | about 3 months ago | (#46175555)

We certainly don't take it very well when foreign manufacturers do this...

-1 ontopic (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175587)

Fuck Beta is the only thing to say today.

Re:-1 ontopic (4, Insightful)

DaTrueDave (992134) | about 3 months ago | (#46175659)

I will be joining in the Slashcott from Feb 10-Feb 17. No on-topic replies today!

Re:-1 ontopic (0)

dmbasso (1052166) | about 3 months ago | (#46175763)

Actually it is not as off-topic as you think, the story is about Intel performing dumping... otoh, someone at Slashdot took a dump and TADA!!! Slashdot Beta was born.

Timothy is mass downmodding! (0)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 3 months ago | (#46175827)

Timothy is mass downmodding everyone who posts on the beta. Look at the comment sections in the Amazon story.

Re:-1 ontopic (5, Funny)

MightyMartian (840721) | about 3 months ago | (#46175769)

"Former US president (and everyone's favorite funny man) Richard M. Nixon announced his approval of the Slashdot Beta site.

"I was just telling Pat this morning as I made sweet Nixon love to her that what the web needed was a whitespace-riddled atrocity. Slashdot Beta is the Tet Offensive of discussion sites, so screw you, you stupid hippies."

Henry Kissinger was said to have been very pleased as well. Dr. Kissinger was quoted as saying "In Soviet Russia, Slashdot betas you!""

Re: -1 ontopic (0)

AvitarX (172628) | about 3 months ago | (#46175903)

I'll probably leave before then, the beta is so bad it's destroyed the ability to read the site now because of all the complaints.

The beta is pretty bad too, but I can adapt.

Re:-1 ontopic (-1, Offtopic)

Princeofcups (150855) | about 3 months ago | (#46176013)

I will be joining in the Slashcott from Feb 10-Feb 17. No on-topic replies today!

Wow, what a whiny waste of time. "I'll take my ball and go home I hate you guys but I'll be back tomorrow." You are NOT a paying customer. This means squat to Dice.

There are only two solutions:
1 - Hell freezes over and Dice sets Slashdot free to be hosted somewhere else
2 - Someone forks the public slashcode and sets up an alternate.

I'm betting on the latter. Really, this is NOT an expensive site to host. Small database, low bandwidth, crowd supplied stories and discussions, crowd moderated.

Re:-1 ontopic (4, Insightful)

geminidomino (614729) | about 3 months ago | (#46176175)

You are NOT a paying customer

Nope. As people are so fond of pointing out, we're the product. Since our displeasure with the new UX-infested abortion obviously, as you so correctly put it, "means squat to Dice," maybe having a bunch of "products" walking off the shelves and out of the store will get their attention.

Can't speak for the others, but whether or not I walk back onto the shelves on the 18th depends on whether or not they manage to complete the cranio-rectal extraction or not.

Re:-1 ontopic (-1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 3 months ago | (#46176443)

We're the customer; slashdot isnt an ad provider and their core business is not gathering user data. Their chief revenue is from ads that are viewed by slashdotters.

Losing subscribers doesnt "mean squat to dice" unless they simply dont care whether slashdot makes money.

Re:-1 ontopic (2, Insightful)

geminidomino (614729) | about 3 months ago | (#46176565)

Their chief revenue is from ads that are viewed by slashdotters

It's not just google et al selling our data that makes us "the product." The "customer" is the one who gives them money (the advertisers). What they're getting in exchange is exposure; our "eyeballs", in scumbag speak. Complaints and feedback go ignored, so clearly they don't care whether we like it or not: the theory to be tested by the "Valentine's Day Massacre" is whether they care if we don't like it enough to drop their ad impressions and, subsequently, their revenue.

Without users, they have nothing to sell.

Re:-1 ontopic (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176285)

nobeta=1 This beta site is total shite!! Boycott this BS!!

Dice has written off Slashdot (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175723)

The editors are getting involved by modding down the "fuck beta stuff", but only this comment went from +5 to -1: http://games.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4760775&cid=46174399

I think we have hit on what is really going on. Slashdot is being killed so that the brand can be re-purposed.

Re:Dice has written off Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175855)

This is insane. Fuck the Slashcott, I'm done here. If there was ever any doubt about how little they cared for their userbase, Timothy mod-bombing everyone who actually cares about the direction this site is going should clear that right up.

Fuck the Beta, and up yours, Timothy.

Re:Dice has written off Slashdot (1)

JWW (79176) | about 3 months ago | (#46176015)

Repurposed as what, worthless crap?

The people who care about the brand are revolting against changes to this site.

People who have frequented this site for over a DECADE are talking about walking away.

Sure they could try to forge a new brand â¦. for the pittance of users they'd have left.

Re:Dice has written off Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176331)

So the plan is to drive away all the real users, because we use adblockers.

Re:Dice has written off Slashdot (4, Insightful)

Belial6 (794905) | about 3 months ago | (#46176595)

Sounds like the opportunity for a huge win for Commander Taco.

1) Make Slashdot a popular site.
2) Sell Slashdot for lots of money
3) Wait for new owners to kill Slashdot
4) Make new Slashdot site with different name
5) Wait for everyone to switch to new site
6) Sell new site for lots of money
7) Profit!!!

Re: Didn't this get them in trouble before? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176051)

can't tell. I've blocked all adds since moving to beta.
whoops, i man betasux.

Re:Didn't this get them in trouble before? (0, Troll)

overshoot (39700) | about 3 months ago | (#46176067)

We certainly don't take it very well when foreign manufacturers do this...

Yes, but Intel is an American corporation which only manufactures outside of the USA. Well, that and design. And test. And packaging. But aside from design, manufacturing, test, and packaging the only things that Intel does outside of the USA is sales and marketing. So it's OK.

As for the implied complaint regarding predatory pricing, the good news there is that (per Judge Posner, in particular) there is no such thing. Anything to bring down consumer prices is by definition good.

Re:Didn't this get them in trouble before? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176279)

When did Canada annex Oregon? Because Intel sure spends a lot of money on development fabs [oregonlive.com] that, according to you, don't have anything to do with design, test, or manufacture of their products.

Re:Didn't this get them in trouble before? (5, Informative)

afidel (530433) | about 3 months ago | (#46176675)

Yes, but Intel is an American corporation which only manufactures outside of the USA

Pure B.S. [wikipedia.org]

Dice is selling out Slashdot with the Beta (5, Insightful)

east coast (590680) | about 3 months ago | (#46175571)

So what's the real difference here? The difference is that Intel is selling something of real world value. Dice is destroying something of real world value.

YUP (5, Interesting)

TheNastyInThePasty (2382648) | about 3 months ago | (#46175601)

Slashdot is officially being actively destroyed because it doesn't make enough advertising revenue anymore [twst.com]

From the report:

Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 million of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero.

Re:YUP (2)

ModernGeek (601932) | about 3 months ago | (#46175973)

One of us needs to buy it from dice and keep it running right. I'm younger than most of you, so I'm not a millionaire yet.

If I've learned anything from the community here, it's that everyone has their shit figured out and runs their own small business which has at least a million dollars of liquid assets.

So a few of slashdot's smart asses need to get said asses in gear and preserve this place for the greater good; maybe even make it profitable.

Re:YUP (2)

blindbat (189141) | about 3 months ago | (#46176413)

Just wait until after the beta goes permanent live. Slashdot will be available for pennies on the dollar.

Re:YUP (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176731)

I kept hearing these complaints about beta... so I loaded the beta sight... I became instantly nauseous... It was horrible and I definitely won't be visiting /. in the future if this is where they plan on taking the site design...

Re:YUP (2)

afidel (530433) | about 3 months ago | (#46176717)

No need to be a millionaire, you should be able to buy it for a couple bucks since they already wrote down the value to zero.

Re: YUP (1)

Kotoku (1531373) | about 3 months ago | (#46176083)

What kind of company couldn't make money off Slashdot? It requires very low effort to post 7 stories a day and run a text based site. Only difference is if you count SlashBi and the occasional video (all things we ACTUAL users hate).

The future of Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176133)

As I snort cocaine from Natalie Portman's butt crack, I stop to consider the future of Slashdot. Then I raise my head and roar:

DICE SUCKS! BETA SUCKS! FUCK BETA!

Check out AltSlashdot for a possible future for our community!

Stay smart! Stay informed! Don't ignore the situation! Organize around viable alternatives!

Re:Dice is selling out Slashdot with the Beta (1, Offtopic)

2phar (137027) | about 3 months ago | (#46175603)

The actual press release [diceholdingsinc.com] is clear "Slashdot Media was acquired to provide content and services that are important to technology professionals in their everyday work lives and to leverage that reach into the global technology community benefiting user engagement on the Dice.com site. The expected benefits have started to be realized at Dice.com. However, advertising revenue has declined over the past year and there is no improvement expected in the future financial performance of Slashdot Media's underlying advertising business. Therefore, $7.2 million of intangible assets and $6.3 million of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero."

Goodwill (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175787)

....$6.3 million of goodwill related to Slashdot Media were reduced to zero.

Accounting speak for "we paid too fucking much."

SHUT THE FUCK UP WHINEY DWEEB (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175611)

Keep whining some more. I'm sure you'll win this fight!

Re:Dice is selling out Slashdot with the Beta (4, Informative)

dmomo (256005) | about 3 months ago | (#46175853)

More posts like this. Protest beta with on-topic posts. (bonus points if title is on topic too).

Re:Dice is selling out Slashdot with the Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175911)

Phuck da beta!!

SLASHBETA SUCKS DICK (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175573)

Slashdot is not the slashdot I grew up with the last 15 years. Slashdot is pulling a Slate... a Digg... a Google News.. a Google plus... a Google reader.

I DONT KNOW THIS WORLD ANYMORE. FUCK SLASHBETA

Re:SLASHBETA SUCKS DICK (1)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 3 months ago | (#46175693)

Oh man, Digg. Remember how *fast* Kevin Rose went from former TV host to the most cocky motherfucker on the planet? Must have been a hard fall for a guy who had forgotten than his shit stinks.

Stinky shit? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175875)

I solved that problem when I went Vegan - no really, your shit stops stinking. It smells like a freshly mowed lawn now.

That's why we Vegans are so sanctimonious and obnoxious: our shit doesn't stink and we can prove it!

So, Slashdot should redirect beta.slashdot.org [vegnews.com] and solve their problems.

Peace man.

Re:SLASHBETA SUCKS DICK (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175923)

I recall reading an article he was prett low when it all collapsed on itself. Funny to think Google almost bought for 250 mil, then it eventually sold for 500k. I'd find a link but i'm too busy posting slashbeta hate

FUCK SLASHBETA

Editors are scared (3, Interesting)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 3 months ago | (#46175605)

Looks like they're using their unlimited mod points to try to downmod everyone who posts on the beta.

Re:Editors are scared (1, Offtopic)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 3 months ago | (#46175627)

Look at the Amazon double-helix comments. Mass downmods everywhere.

Re:Editors are scared (2)

dmbasso (1052166) | about 3 months ago | (#46175849)

Yep, I noticed that. In a technology oriented site they could at least try to hide the blatantly obvious statistical anomaly. A small script with some randomness and delays would be enough.

Re:Editors are scared (4, Informative)

dmomo (256005) | about 3 months ago | (#46175901)

That's OK. What made slashdot great is the people who love it, leaving insightful comments. Since they are currently only leaving comments related to beta... if you mod those down, there won't be much of a discussion left.

If they do manage to suppress the beta "noise", just bring it to their facebook page.

Re:Editors are scared (0, Offtopic)

simonbp (412489) | about 3 months ago | (#46175651)

Because all the editors that cared left long ago.

The fucked-up beta is the latest fuck-up in a long decline. OMG Ponies was more usable than beta.

We'll go aggressively passive-aggressive then (1)

cervesaebraciator (2352888) | about 3 months ago | (#46175671)

Very well. I won't post on the beta. If they don't want to hear about it, that's okay. It's their site, not the users'. But I might mention how fascinating comments on interesting topics like [this article's topic] will one day be discussed on this website [altslashdot.org].

Re:We'll go aggressively passive-aggressive then (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175801)

If you're going to go for a short name, maybe a nice bit of regex pun: .* indicating 0 or more of anything, or alternately a period followed by an open-ended wildcard in OS terminology (both have useful meanings, and you can get flame wars about which one it means).

Re:We'll go aggressively passive-aggressive then (1)

JustinOpinion (1246824) | about 3 months ago | (#46176049)

The nascent "AltSlashdot.org [altslashdot.org]" effort hasn't settled on a name yet. The name will be changed, and will avoid all trademark issues. The plan is to have a community vote on the new name; several punctuation related puns have already been suggested.

The hardest part, of course, is building up enough momentum fast enough for such a large community to transition. It may or may not work...

Re:We'll go aggressively passive-aggressive then (1)

east coast (590680) | about 3 months ago | (#46175873)

I hope this works out for you. When there is an alternative hopefully the users will move on and start anew. It's time anyway.

Thank you for your efforts.

Re:We'll go aggressively passive-aggressive then (1)

cervesaebraciator (2352888) | about 3 months ago | (#46176211)

Many thanks, but it's not my idea (though I've offered to do what I can to help). The original post may be found here [slashdot.org]. It is time indeed.

Re:Editors are scared (1)

aardvarkjoe (156801) | about 3 months ago | (#46175749)

It's funny; if this happened on any other site the Slashdot editors would be all over posting stories about "censorship."

Whichever editor is doing this: how about you at least have the balls to admit it? Just put up a notification on the front page that you're downmodding all complaints about the beta site.

And yes, since you probably think you can do it without people realizing -- it's pretty damn obvious that it's an editor doing it, not normal users. Huge numbers of posts are getting hit with "offtopic" mods, all at the same time.

Re:Editors are scared (1)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 3 months ago | (#46175767)

Yeah, keep modding down timothy. Shutting the door after the horses have already gotten out. Might be better off spending that time updating your resume.

Re:Ironic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176161)

If you post Anon you lose the BETA SLASHDOT feature...!

Intel's profit methods (2, Insightful)

grommit (97148) | about 3 months ago | (#46175629)

Intel has been doing this for a long time. They know how to make money off of it. Dice Holdings on the other hand only seems to know how to ignore their readers and create a "BETA" website that is flat out painful to read.

Much like Dice should sell Slashdot before they dr (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175661)

FUCK BETA!! You are changing a formula for success that you obviously don't understand. Change can be good, but change is not good for the sake of change. Software and websites developed by people who do not understand their users will always be a catastrophe.

FTC issue? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175679)

Wouldn't this constitute yet another violation of fair trade law by Intel. How long until the company gets shut down like they deserve?

Re:FTC issue? (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175739)

SLASHBETA - A violation of human dignity.

DOWN WITH BETA

Desperation ... (0, Troll)

gstoddart (321705) | about 3 months ago | (#46175707)

Let's face it. Intel is desperate for their chips to still be used in things.

As people are moving to different forms of computers and different kinds of chips, Intel is getting squeezed -- the sales of desktops are down, and increasingly it's stuff like ARM processors which are running things.

I'm betting Intel is doing this to try to ensure they still have a market share, otherwise things are going to start looking pretty bleak for them in the consumer market.

Of course, I worry this is just going to have the effect of trying to foist power-hungry desktop/x86 CPUs onto people who want lower-power stuff for mobile devices.

What we don't want is just a transplanted x86 which hasn't been updated to try to account for lower power devices and getting away from a platform with almost 40 years of baggage.

Calling attention to the beta fuckup (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175737)

Is anyone writing to the advertisers to let them know what a massive fuckup is Slashdot beta? Perhaps that's the better way to communicate this idea to Dice

Boycott (5, Informative)

chebucto (992517) | about 3 months ago | (#46175851)

Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet.

On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.

Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this [slashdot.org] in a new tab. After seeing that, click here [slashdot.org] to return to classic Slashdot.

We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott [slashdot.org]

Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

Discussion of Beta: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=56395415 [slashdot.org]
Discussion of where to go if Beta goes live: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3321441 [slashdot.org]
Alternative Slashdot: altslashdot.org [altslashdot.org]

Re:Boycott (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175995)

ive used all my mod points today in this effort thus the AC here. I think maybe we should all copy and paste this as replies to everything. Lets ratchet up the signal to noise a bit eh?

Re:Boycott (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176071)

The beta looks like some shitty comments section that many websites tacked (like from disqus) on when they realised they could get more traffic if they let users throw in their own comments, however Dice fail to realise that this site is all about the comments, heck any story on any topic could be posted and you're guaranteed to have some intelligent discussion posts appearing.

The beta is a stinking pile of shite.

Re:Boycott (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176215)

Or, you know, just go to a different website. There are hundreds of others. Are you currently paying slashdot money to provide you with services tailored just the way you want? Hmmmm...

Re:Boycott (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176709)

So instead of complaining to try and get things to not change, we should all just find somewhere else?

Somehow I don't think you have an IQ above room temperature, measured in celcius.

Is Slashdot Selling Beta Slashverts Below Cost? (-1, Offtopic)

ShaunC (203807) | about 3 months ago | (#46175857)

I'm interested, does it cost more Bitcoins or fewer Bitcoins to get a Slashvertisement greenlit on the beta site vs. the classic site?

fuckbeta in your favorite language. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175859)

#include <stdio.h>;

int main(void)
{
for (;;) printf("Fuck Beta\n");
return 0; //unreachable, but compiler might want it
}

Re:fuckbeta in your favorite language. (1)

sunderland56 (621843) | about 3 months ago | (#46175999)

#include <stdio.h>;

Error 17: random ';' outside of a function: programmer should be shot

Re:fuckbeta in your favorite language. (1)

dmbasso (1052166) | about 3 months ago | (#46176103)

def slashdot_beta():
      base = urlopen("goatse.cx").read()
      return uglify_even_more(base)

Re:fuckbeta in your favorite language. (2)

MachineShedFred (621896) | about 3 months ago | (#46176499)


use strict;
my $slashdot = shift;

while($slashdot =~ /[Bb]eta/ ) {
          print "Fuck Beta\n";
}

As goes Slashdot goes Intel (1, Interesting)

Nightbrood (6060) | about 3 months ago | (#46175895)

It is a sad day that Intel's big news is having to slash prices to compete with the likes of MediaTek. I'm surprised no one has complained to the ITC yet if they are effectively "dumping" these chip. While I recognize mobile's importance, the nerd in me yearns for the good ol' days when AMD and Intel were fighting it out in the x86 space. Kinda like Slashdot...

fuckbeta

Predatory pricing (2, Informative)

TheloniousToady (3343045) | about 3 months ago | (#46176055)

I'm surprised no one has complained to the ITC yet if they are effectively "dumping" these chip.

I thought about that too, but I don't think it applies in this case. I think it's allowable to sell things below cost if you're not a dominant player. In fact, temporarily losing money on a product when entering a market is a common tactic to gain market share. This is distinct from predatory pricing [wikipedia.org], which is intended to force competitors out of the market. You would need to be a dominant player to do that, which Intel clearly isn't in the mobile space.

Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175937)

Get rid of this Fischer Price looking Beta. It is sux and is unusable.

Slashbeta is miserable a failure (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46175959)

Dice holding, you are looking at this revolt and I hope you all feel like a bunch of dicks.

FUCK SLASHBETA

Fuck Beta (2, Insightful)

sexconker (1179573) | about 3 months ago | (#46175975)

The day I lose access to the classic version of Slashdot is the day I block slashdot.org at the border.
Your move, Dice.

Re:Fuck Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176019)

Exactly the same here, Dice you lousy soulless human beings.

Regarding the fucking beta (5, Insightful)

gman003 (1693318) | about 3 months ago | (#46176017)

I'm not a guy who blindly follows what he's used to. When I got Windows 8, I gave Metro a try. It has some good parts, and I don't even dislike the look of it. I could have adapted to the inconsistencies, and the weird tabletness of it all. But after trying dozens of apps, I found that none of them worked as well as the desktop applications.

I like to think I'm a guy who does what works. Metro didn't work, so I no longer use it. I got a program that gives me a start menu back, and it lets me configure it to be even better-fitted to my needs than the stock W7 menu.

I gave Slashdot Beta a try, because I thought it deserved a chance. Perhaps all the hate for it was just small-minded traditionalists clinging on to the familiar. But no. Slashdot Beta breaks all the important functionality, and it makes it look worse. If it goes live as it currently is, not only am I quitting Slashdot for good, but I'll be throwing a proposal to my bosses about making a competitor, because the market for an audience-focused tech site will be wide open (I'm currently contemplating "Alpha" as a name).

Slashdot Classic has problems, certainly. Unicode is broken, HTML comments are stupid, the design isn't that great, and since the thing is still running on Perl I'm sure there's some hindrances to continued development. Slashdot needs a rewrite, a clean new technical foundation powering a new front-end design.

But Beta isn't it. With all the problems Classic has, Beta is a million times worse. I can't think of even one way in which Beta is superior - it is a step down on all fronts, obviously designed by people who never used Slashdot and only copied from other news sites and comment forums.

What if Dice sold a Slashvert and nobody viewed? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176045)

Consider than because that is the road that Beta is leading us down.

Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176089)

I can't believe it's not horsecock!

For the first time (4, Interesting)

LookIntoTheFuture (3480731) | about 3 months ago | (#46176097)

in Slashdot history, comments about the story are the ones that are offtopic. They may not be modded that way, but I find myself skipping them. Is it really that difficult to keep classic in addition to beta? You have a lot of loyal, intelligent people here. Why give them the finger?

NO to Beta (2)

mccotter (185752) | about 3 months ago | (#46176119)

Do not make beta mandatory. Keep classic. I've been looking for an excuse to stop spending time on this site.... and beta is it.

http://slashdot.org/?nobeta=1 (1)

unixisc (2429386) | about 3 months ago | (#46176205)

Just set that for your page, and stick to the topic of whether Intel underpricing Bay Trail is good for the market, and whether it creates new opportunities for laptop or all-in-one vendors as well.

This was posted over an hour ago! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176249)

Why are there no comments?

Message from friendly neighbourhood ACs (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176335)

Fuck Beta! ACs ftw! altslashdot.org ftw!

Please leave us alone Dice, please.

Protest Beta (1)

LoRdTAW (99712) | about 3 months ago | (#46176361)

Dice, I am protesting the beta site. I will not follow any links from a beta redirect and I will not participate in any meaningful discussion.

Your new Slashdot design is hideous. The comment layout is an abomination which has always been /.'s strong point. The comments are why we come here. This isn't twitter, Digg or Facebook, we come here to get away from that. You will lose more members than you will ever hope to attract with your new and unimproved design. Please abandon your attempts to cash in on /.

Fellow /.'ers, join me in this protest. Do not post a comment related to an article or click any links. Instead, post a comment in protest of the beta design. Mods (who wish to participate in the protest): Mod up protest comments comments only. Do not mod down on-topic comments as it isn't fair to the poster.

NO BETA NO TIME (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46176463)

NO BETA NO TIME

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