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A New Use For Drones: Traffic Scouting

Soulskill posted about 9 months ago | from the drone-find-me-a-gas-station-and-some-donuts dept.

Transportation 144

Nerval's Lobster writes "Renault's new concept car gives drivers an unusual companion: a small flying drone, controllable via tablet or preset GPS waypoints, which scans the area ahead for obstacles and traffic. The so-called 'flying companion' can exit the vehicle via a retractable hatch in the roof, and buzz around the immediate vicinity shooting video and photos; as this is a concept, actual hardware and software specs aren't available, although Renault's engineers envision something closer to the size of a small bird than some of the larger drones currently available. But how practical is a 'driving drone'? Considering all the accidents caused by people texting or Web-surfing while driving, it seems questionable to introduce a piece of hardware that could prove even more distracting—imagine trying to successfully guide a drone with touch-screen controls while navigating a fast-paced roadway, and you can see why the idea of a "flying companion" would raise the collective blood pressure of traffic-safety officials. Yes, it would be safer for a passenger to handle drone-flying duties while the driver concentrates on the road; but it's also a near-certainty, if such a concept ever went into production, that more than one driver would attempt to multi-task the navigation of two vehicles at once. Do you think this idea is feasible?"

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Kill Beta! (1, Interesting)

d34thm0nk3y (653414) | about 9 months ago | (#46188473)

Wow, did they actually disable the firehose because of the Beta protest? I can't seem to get to it.

Boycott on next week!

Re:Kill Beta! (5, Interesting)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 9 months ago | (#46188623)

They're also actually deleting posts now too. Quite a few of mine have disappeared. Amazing that they have time for this, what with all the effort they're putting into listening to us and modifying the beta accordingly.

Re:Kill Beta! (4, Informative)

Sowelu (713889) | about 9 months ago | (#46188721)

It's not that I don't believe you...but I don't believe you. Find a hole in the post ID numbers where yours used to be. It looks like they're incremental, so if there is a post 47190001 and 47190003 but no 47190002, then we know something is wrong. (Same thing if they fill the gap with a later post and the timestamp on 47190002 is greater than the one on 47190003.) Yeah yeah I know it's a pain to track all the post IDs you make, but for something like this, if it's really happening to you, it would be worthwhile.

One of the absolute core tenets of Slashdot has always been that they don't delete things (unless someone sues them for a billion dollars, and even then, only once). It's important to be able to prove it if it happens.

Re:Kill Beta! (3, Interesting)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 9 months ago | (#46188779)

You can't. The comment list is suddenly broken now too. I can only look at about the last 20 or so posts (the list end abruptly and there is no longer an option to go to the next page). But I looked back through the articles from this morning and can tell you that several of my posts that I know were there are suddenly gone.

Re:Kill Beta! (4, Insightful)

Arker (91948) | about 9 months ago | (#46188907)

So from now on keep a list on your end of post IDs. Each time you post add the ID to your list. Next time one is deleted you will be able to prove it.

Re:Kill Beta! (1)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 9 months ago | (#46188921)

That's a good idea.

Re:Kill Beta! (0)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 9 months ago | (#46189029)

I found an example. One of the them is comment #46185253. You can still see it here [slashdot.org] if you go to it manually. But if you go to the actual article [slashdot.org] , it's gone. It was under the top "Why?" thread. But now it's gone from the comments when you look at them in the article.

Re:Kill Beta! (0)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 9 months ago | (#46189065)

You can't even see it if you expand out the "Why?" thread all the way. Here [slashdot.org] .

Re:Kill Beta! (1)

cfulton (543949) | about 9 months ago | (#46189129)

Wrong I see comment #46185253 in both places. Are you wearing a tinfoil slash hat TWiTfan? Cause you post is still there. Or maybe they put it back. Or maybe they have just deleted it so only you can't see it.

Re:Kill Beta! (1)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 9 months ago | (#46189211)

I hope you're right. But I sure didn't see it before. I even did a search, expanded out every sub-thread--nothing.

Re:Kill Beta! (1)

claar (126368) | about 9 months ago | (#46189305)

Simple explanation on this, actually. That article has a ton of comments, so I had to click "Load More Comments" before I could see your reply #46185253.

Re:Kill Beta! (1)

Qzukk (229616) | about 9 months ago | (#46189369)

I see it in Classic, but i had to press "Load more" on the beta site probably 10 times before it magically appeared where it was supposed to in the nested tree (which is total shit, nobody's going to scroll back up to see if new replies were loaded in the middle of all the stuff we just read through.)

Re:Kill Beta! (0)

Bucc5062 (856482) | about 9 months ago | (#46188741)

To be fair, many of the posts are variations of "BETA IS TEH SUKZ" and little in suggestions (other then shut it down). Perhaps constructive criticism would not hurt.

Re:Kill Beta! (3, Insightful)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 9 months ago | (#46188883)

Quite a bit of constructive criticism has been offered (not just in the last two days, but for months now). The exact complaints are pretty damned clear at this point. The problem isn't that they aren't aware of the problems with the beta. The problem is that they've not been corrected, and now they're going to force the beta on us.

I personally don't care about the beta, as long as we can keep the Classic option. But if you're going to force it on me, at least make sure that you're not stripping functionality away from me. Add whatever dumb feature you like (as long as it doesn't get in my way), but don't take away my ability to see a simple comment list with replies and mods listed. Quite a few others have also complained about the lack of Unicode support, the annoying whitespace issues, and onerous javascript.

Re:Kill Beta! (3, Informative)

Bucc5062 (856482) | about 9 months ago | (#46188999)

To be clear, I looked at the Beta site and am in line with the general thinking. Having been a /. member since 2000 there is something solid about the look and feel that has not changed much in over 14 years. Clearly the beta site is trying to look like other sites (presumably held by Dice?) and it does not work (or look good).

I made my comment before I read some posts that advocated a protest/boycott. How funny though, with all the "we need to boycott" statements i've read in /. over the years taht was met with "grow up, boycotts don't work", here is now one called on the fertile soil of /. ... will this one work?

I'm going otu on a limb and say, boycotts never work unless you can truly convince the vast majority to join in and I'm guessing that demographics of /. have changed. Current owners figure they can weather the storm.

As for me, I may check out this very young upstart [altslashdot.org] I just read about here on this site. Though I'll hang with this ship for a bit, I'll check out the upstart and at the least, add my voice (I cannot help code as I don't do python).

Re:Kill Beta! (1)

GameMaster (148118) | about 9 months ago | (#46189229)

"Delete the beta source code and fire the devs/managers responsible for designing it" (which is, effectively, what is being said when people post "BETA IS TEH SUKZ" in the numbers that they are IS constructive criticism. The problem is that Dice and/or the Slashdot managers don't want to hear it...

beta? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188759)

really, what is the problem?

Re:Kill Beta! (2)

zidium (2550286) | about 9 months ago | (#46188801)

Fuck Beta! Fuck Beta

My Lord! The peasants are revolting!

Re:Kill Beta! (1)

OldeTimeGeek (725417) | about 9 months ago | (#46189225)

They certainly are! Sorry, someone had to complete the joke...

Re:Kill Beta! (1)

GameMaster (148118) | about 9 months ago | (#46189239)

We're discussing why the beta suck, not why Slashdotters don't have girlfriends. Try to stay on topic.

Fuck Beta (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188477)

Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet. (Copy-paste the html from here [pastebin.com] so links don't get mangled!)

On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design. Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this [slashdot.org] in a new tab. After seeing that, click here [slashdot.org] to return to classic Slashdot.

We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott [slashdot.org]

Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta
  http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

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Re:Fuck Beta (0)

Salgak1 (20136) | about 9 months ago | (#46188919)

OK, we've seen this countless times today. You've made your point. At this point, the "Fuck Beta/Kill Beta" is SPAM. . .

Re:Fuck Beta (1)

PGC (880972) | about 9 months ago | (#46189469)

Who knew spam could be functional. Fuck Beta.

Re:Fuck Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188949)

I don't care about beta anymore. Deleting posts and modding down stuff that they don't care is MUCH WORSE - THAT'S whats really killing slashdot.
So farewell. See ya at reddit.

Re:Fuck Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46189127)

Deleting posts is the the worst. That violates one of the absolute core principles of Slashdot. It's the ultimate Slashdot heresy.

Re:Fuck Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46189217)

Absolutely. Posts that bash Microsoft, for instance, may go from +5 back and forth to -1 in a matter of days. That's absolutely infuriating. But deleting posts and stories? I'll go somewhere else, where the community decides who gets the vote.

Actually it's the ultimate microsoft, to own slashdot, think about it!

Re:Fuck Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188971)

How exactly did this get modded as Troll? oh yeah...fuck beta! No /. next week ;-)

but... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188483)

DAT SLASHDOT BETA DOE

Beta Slashdort: Symptom of Capitalist Decay (2)

For a Free Internet (1594621) | about 9 months ago | (#46188491)

Beta Slashdort is a product of the irreversible decay of the profit system. The only way out is COMMUNISM via workers revolution!

Does this idea make sense? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188495)

Sure, if your car is the only car doing it.

Re:Does this idea make sense? (1)

skids (119237) | about 9 months ago | (#46188579)

Eh, it will give us something else to prop up against telephone poles alongside the lost hubcaps.

Re: Does this idea make sense? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188975)

+1

It makes absolutely no sense for more than one person to be scouting out the traffic ahead. This is the perfect example of a scenario when everyone needs to have essentially the same information, and it would be a massive waste of time (not to mention dangerously crowded) if everyone felt it necessary to personally check it out.

Re:Does this idea make sense? (1)

ArhcAngel (247594) | about 9 months ago | (#46189181)

This is supposedly targeted at large cities where the larger avenues already have networked cameras accessible to the public. Since cars are getting connected and getting apps an app to direct the nearest camera in front of you to the in dash display would effectively do the same thing. Now in the woods this would be great for scouting prospective camping/hunting areas prior to venturing out.

It's been done before (2, Interesting)

demontechie (180612) | about 9 months ago | (#46188511)

More than 10 years ago even! [cmu.edu]

If only Dice had a way to learn from the past... [slashdot.org]

Re:It's been done before - It was the "G" button.. (2)

kimgkimg (957949) | about 9 months ago | (#46188575)

Actually as far back as the 1960's: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... [youtube.com]

Re:It's been done before - It was the "G" button.. (1)

mwehle (2491950) | about 9 months ago | (#46188627)

Absolutely, man! This was my first thought also - Renault needs to make a version of The Powerful Mach 5.

Re:It's been done before - It was the "G" button.. (1)

Bucc5062 (856482) | about 9 months ago | (#46188833)

Now if they make it operate by pressing 'G', that will be cool. Something interesting stuck me watching that clip (besides the memories, I loved Speed Racer), the Mach Five was a little environmentally unfriendly. Cutting down trees without concern about the impact of the forest, for shame. I think later on there was a dump oil mod (or maybe that was the bad guys) which certainly did not help the environment either. Watching Speed Racer did not turn me into a race car driver, but in an odd way, I thunk it made me a better driver. At the least, it taught me to be aware, have good situational awareness otherwise the bad guy is going to run you off the road.

Great post....and the obligatory "BETTTTTTAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaa"

Re:It's been done before - It was the "G" button.. (1)

erroneus (253617) | about 9 months ago | (#46188963)

Also my first thought and glad I found the same thought here so I didn't become redundant.

Question: Doesn't this qualify as Prior Art? It should.

Re:It's been done before (2)

kimgkimg (957949) | about 9 months ago | (#46188619)

Actually more than 30+ years ago (see the 'G' control button): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... [youtube.com]

Is beta gone? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188515)

Can I come back?

Re:Is beta gone? (1)

icebike (68054) | about 9 months ago | (#46188581)

Can I come back?

No.

Besides, it looks like you've already posted several times in this thread.

Re:Is beta gone? (0)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 9 months ago | (#46188665)

No, but Timothy has PROMISED that they'll listen to us, the audience, and CONSIDER our recommendations. Honest injun. Pinkie swear!

Why manual controls? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188537)

Why on earth would you need to manually control the drone? It could easily know the route you are intending to take, and could be 100% automated...

Re:Why manual controls? (1)

icebike (68054) | about 9 months ago | (#46188713)

Why on earth would you need to manually control the drone? It could easily know the route you are intending to take, and could be 100% automated...

And the airspace over heavy traffic will be totally clear, right?
You will be the only drone user on the road?
All the drones will be maintained in 100% working order, just like the cars are?
And all drivers will resist the urge to watch their drone?
And no one would think of hacking them, right?

Would it not be easier.. (5, Insightful)

_hAZE_ (20054) | about 9 months ago | (#46188541)

Would it not be easier to just install traffic monitoring devices along roadways, and let your car's on-board navigation system interface with those? That way you don't need the traffic scouting drone, and the inherent risks that come with trying to operate one while driving.

I could see it now.. inattentive drivers/operaters causing the traffic scouting drones to collide with other traffic scouting drones, creating drone "road kill". What a mess.. No, this is a Bad Idea(TM) all around.

Re:Would it not be easier.. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188639)

But I always wanted to send something up to show me why I'm standing still on the motorway (US English: highway). I'd feel so much better if I knew if it's a stupid traffic light that switches to red way too fast or somebody's non-Tesla exploded (as is usually the case).

And FUCK BETA. The text is too big, the department line has been moved to a place where I can't read it unless I dive into the article and I know where to look, the comment hierarchy cuts off after a depth and I have no idea how do go lower (or if I can do so, given that it doesn't show if there are any comments below either).

Re:Would it not be easier.. (2)

icebike (68054) | about 9 months ago | (#46188785)

Would it not be easier to just install traffic monitoring devices along roadways, and let your car's on-board navigation system interface with those? That way you don't need the traffic scouting drone, and the inherent risks that come with trying to operate one while driving.

Everybody is carrying a traffic monitoring device [google.com] in their pocket or purse. Its pretty accurate and up to date too.

Re:Would it not be easier.. (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about 9 months ago | (#46189025)

Will it stream me uncensored video of the gory carnage that's blocking the road?

Re:Would it not be easier.. (1)

xlyz (695304) | about 9 months ago | (#46188873)

Would it not be easier to just install traffic monitoring devices along roadways, and let your car's on-board navigation system interface with those?

and that how is supposed to be fun?

Re:Would it not be easier.. (1)

scorp1us (235526) | about 9 months ago | (#46188937)

In the ideal world, you'd share your drone with other views, broadcasting like TV.
You'd have a database of channels for segments of road and would flip between them, automatically.
The traffic authority would operate the drones, which would be automatic because they are GPS guided.

Re:Would it not be easier.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46189005)

Why not having them, and when you stuck... you can play tag with your fellow drivers one against the other... :)

What else could go wrong?

As usual, a solution for a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place...

Re:Would it not be easier.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46189171)

What a mess.. No, this is a Bad Idea(TM) all around.

*buzzes in*

WHAT IS BETA?

I'll take swords for 500, Trebek.

Re:Would it not be easier.. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46189353)

I see no problem with a barely maintained minidrone falling out of the sky into traffic and smashing into someone's windshield at 70+mph or hitting power lines, etc.

Re:Would it not be easier.. (1)

ripvlan (2609033) | about 9 months ago | (#46189397)

Exactly how I see it playing out. There will be more traffic jams and crashes in the sky from all of these drones filling the air. Yes - parts will rain down from the sky and kill small children. The sky will go black from the flocks of drones. Did they get this idea from playing Call of Duty?

Next somebody will sell an accessory laser so your drone can shoot others out of the sky as a sort of crash avoidance system.

Available only to the rich.

How about a tethered kite instead of a drone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188549)

Just winch it in and out as needed.

Re:How about a tethered kite instead of a drone? (1)

skids (119237) | about 9 months ago | (#46188599)

Umm... bridges? Power lines?

Re:How about a tethered kite instead of a drone? (1)

icebike (68054) | about 9 months ago | (#46188871)

Um, whoosh?

Re:How about a tethered kite instead of a drone? (1)

glavenoid (636808) | about 9 months ago | (#46188901)

Great idea! We can tie the kites to bridges. And power lines!

No beta please... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188567)

Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet.

On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design.

Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this [slashdot.org] in a new tab. After seeing that, click here [slashdot.org] to return to classic Slashdot.

We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.

We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott [slashdot.org]

Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta

Commentors - only discuss the Beta - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

Discussion of Beta [slashdot.org]

Discussion of where to go if Beta goes live [slashdot.org]

Alternative Slashdot [altslashdot.org]

Re:No beta please... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188633)

Copy'n'paste FAIL.

Re:No beta please... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188789)

Obviously a dice shill...copy paste is good in this cause.

Re:No beta please... (1)

demontechie (180612) | about 9 months ago | (#46188951)

Not if it doesn't include working links...

Re:No beta please... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46189043)

The move to beta started October 1, 2013.

Finally! (2)

mariox19 (632969) | about 9 months ago | (#46188583)

Now we all get to be Speed Racer!

Wow, posted ten minutes ago and no comments (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188593)

Commenting broken again? Testing...

Re:Wow, posted ten minutes ago and no comments (1)

TWiTfan (2887093) | about 9 months ago | (#46188705)

The comment listing is broken now too (only shows one page, with no "Next" option). And it looks like the editors are trying to delete posts and downmod all the beta posters. Guess they found the time to do all that in between listening to us and changing the beta based on our valued input.

Maybe for parking (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188609)

The only use I could see would be for parking, everything else would be very dangerous to operate while driving that being said it could have a use when car's are self driving.

Improved vision modes (Night Vision, Thermal (snow) maybe) would be far more useful but I don't see why you would need to see more than the current vehicle design allows (for cars) Trucks is a little bit different, it would be very useful in certain situation to be able to see around a corner (esp blind/sharp corners) before the truck arrived because of the time required to fully stop a truck is far far greater than any car.

Re:Maybe for parking (4, Interesting)

Octorian (14086) | about 9 months ago | (#46188881)

I would love something like this for parking, especially if it could be semi-automated. Push a button, drone flies up and does a survey of the parking lot. It then finds a space and "squats" it for you while you drive there on the ground.

I even thought of this idea like 10 years ago, when trying to come up with random ideas for fictitious gov't technology programs while bored at work. I think the name we coined was "OPLSS" (pronounced "Hopeless"), for "Objective Parking Lot Survey System".

But, just like many superpowers we'd all love to have, this sort of thing is *only* useful if you're the only one who has it. If everyone had this capability, it would cause far more problems than it would solve.

Re:Maybe for parking (1)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about 9 months ago | (#46189061)

There are already production cars with night vision and thermal vision.

More Feasible Than Beta (0)

Akratist (1080775) | about 9 months ago | (#46188615)

Subject line says it all.

Viper did this, and they got cancelled, so.... (1)

StickyWidget (741415) | about 9 months ago | (#46188617)

TLDW; Viper was a TV show using a Dodge Viper as the protagonist. There was no problem so great that it couldn't be solved with clever application of a steering wheel and gas pedal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

~Sticky

Re:Viper did this, and they got cancelled, so.... (1)

sliceoflife (2814511) | about 9 months ago | (#46188681)

Strange: When I search slashdot for "fuck" I get many results, When I search for "beta" I obviously get even more results. But searching "fuck beta" come up with no results!

Drones Bomb Beta HQ (1, Offtopic)

ShaunC (203807) | about 9 months ago | (#46188637)

Fuck Beta. The community should come together, put together a drone, and have it trail a banner over the Dice HQ building that says: "F U C K B E T A." I've got a five on it, if we can make this happen.

Dangerous if two or more at once (1)

Sowelu (713889) | about 9 months ago | (#46188663)

Err, what happens if two or three or more users are flying these at the same time, along the same ideal path and elevation? Until we get some real nice automated localized collision avoidance, you're going to end up with tangled wrecks of drones falling out of the sky into traffic.

Driverless cars (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188669)

This would actually be a much better idea if you had a driverless car, so given they may not be far away, I would say this idea just might take flight, if you'll excuse the pun.

Ps fuck beta!

Arm it! (1, Funny)

coinreturn (617535) | about 9 months ago | (#46188679)

I'll get one if it includes weapons for deployment on stupid drivers. Or even Kamikaze mode.

beta beta beta (1, Offtopic)

dciman (106457) | about 9 months ago | (#46188699)

Please post this to new articles if it hasn't been posted yet. (Copy-paste the html from here [pastebin.com] so links don't get mangled!)

On February 5, 2014, Slashdot announced through a javascript popup that they are starting to "move in to" the new Slashdot Beta design. Slashdot Beta is a trend-following attempt to give Slashdot a fresh look, an approach that has led to less space for text and an abandonment of the traditional Slashdot look. Much worse than that, Slashdot Beta fundamentally breaks the classic Slashdot discussion and moderation system.

If you haven't seen Slashdot Beta already, open this [slashdot.org] in a new tab. After seeing that, click here [slashdot.org] to return to classic Slashdot.

We should boycott stories and only discuss the abomination that is Slashdot Beta until Dice abandons the project.
We should boycott slashdot entirely during the week of Feb 10 to Feb 17 as part of the wider slashcott [slashdot.org]

Moderators - only spend mod points on comments that discuss Beta
Commentors - only discuss Beta
  http://slashdot.org/recent [slashdot.org] - Vote up the Fuck Beta stories

Keep this up for a few days and we may finally get the PHBs attention.

-----=====##### LINKS #####=====-----

Discussion of Beta: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=56395415 [slashdot.org]

Discussion of where to go if Beta goes live: http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&type=submission&id=3321441 [slashdot.org]

Alternative Slashdot: http://altslashdot.org [altslashdot.org] (thanks Okian Warrior (537106) [slashdot.org] )

Re:beta beta beta (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188737)

IT seems that they widened the text area in beta. That is good.

I green bar from each comment header is missing. It is wrong to think that this is wasted vertical space as it easily directs the eye to the comment

Drones + automated cars (1)

StormyWeatherL33T (2881677) | about 9 months ago | (#46188753)

Considering the fact that driverless cars are also being worked on, all the drone would need to do is communicate the information to the car so that the car's computer can reroute/slow down/act accordingly. So, yeah. Seems pretty feasible.

Re:Drones + automated cars (1)

Ardyvee (2447206) | about 9 months ago | (#46189491)

But of course, by then you might as well just have the city/town provide the drones themselves instead of having thousand drones from a thousand drivers. I think.

Mach 5 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188795)

Didn't Speed Racers Mach 5 have this and it could deliver messages caring a small payload.

Ps. Death to /. Beta! Long live /. classic

just stop (1)

madmatty (3468483) | about 9 months ago | (#46188811)

How about we stop looking for ways to have to glue ourselves to some digital screen for every moment in our lives... And how much time is it going to save when you got idiots trying to find their lost drones.

Go Speed Racer Go (1)

KDN (3283) | about 9 months ago | (#46188817)

Its amazing that technology and companies are finally catching up with the old Speed Racer cartoons.

trains and bears (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188831)

These would be good to use on trains. West of here on the tracks through bear country. Our freight trains kill a lot of bears on the tracks munching the ungulates who were munching on spilled grain when they were run over.

The only way this could be useful... (1)

TigerPlish (174064) | about 9 months ago | (#46188853)

The only way this could be useful is if it unleashes a finger of doom from a minigun to do away with the "motorist" causing the backup.

Although, I'll "settle" for having this scout go out, locate said "motorist" and send me back footage of why this one person is causing the 2 mile backup behind them.

My morbid sense of curiosity demands that I know who the fuck just backed up the turnpike.

Beta protest (1)

carlos92 (682924) | about 9 months ago | (#46188903)

How about protesting (and not commenting) on even days and commenting normally on odd days? That way, Dice will be able to gauge how much of their so called "audience" that creates the actual deliverable of the site is leaving for good, while still preserving some value just in case they see the error of their ways soon.

fuck beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46188905)

fuck beta

It's for off-road use (1)

Animats (122034) | about 9 months ago | (#46188981)

This might, marginally, make sense for serious off-roaders, which is what Renault is pitching. There's been a lot of interest in this in the military, where knowing what's over the next hill can save your life. For road driving, it's silly.

wank wank wank (1)

epine (68316) | about 9 months ago | (#46188997)

you can see why the idea of a "flying companion" would raise the collective blood pressure of traffic-safety officials

Noooooooooo! The stupidity of manual driver control (are there really people out there this fucking dumb?) would just give them the reason they're seeking anyway to clamp down on a showy and unorthodox public behaviour.

Everyone else, you can boycott the BETA. I'm going to trash the stupidity of the story submission in the vast majority of stories that show up here now. To each his own.

A proper geek knows the difference between one kind of blame masturbation and another. Most of our stories these days are wank wank wank random blame masturbation wank wank wank.

Great for 1 pct Bad for 99 pct (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | about 9 months ago | (#46189023)

This is the kind of military model scout concept that works great when the 1 percent do it - but utterly fails when the 99 percent do it.

One drone over a traffic jam is one thing.

6543 drones over a traffic jam crashing into planes and helicopters and police drones and DOT drones is a total catastrophe.

People don't get that stuff that works when very FEW people use them is ok but when anyone can buy it, the impacts - and by this I mean the objects falling from 1000 feet through your sunroof and killing you or causing more crashes when they hit your windscreen - are a nightmare.

They're just like the Slashdot Beta - great idea on paper, incredibly bad very bad insane idea in reality. Kill that with fire!

Combine this with the kill switch and... (1)

ratboy666 (104074) | about 9 months ago | (#46189235)

Combine this drone with the phone/tablet killswitch and much hilarity can be had!

- or -

A new sport. After all, skeets can't dodge, and mailboxes are just too easy a target... Highway drone shooting!

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I used to think /.'s biggest problem was dups! Now we've got BETA -- and I promise to NEVER complain about dups again!
 

Not really no. (1)

TheCarp (96830) | about 9 months ago | (#46189375)

I have had this daydream before, many times actually. In theory it wouldn't really even need to be driven by the driver but could be nearly completely autonomous, or sync up to navigation systems already being used to provide more relevant data....etc. Sure.

However, I doubt it would be that useful in many situations. Sure it may be able to bring back some nice shots, or something but, if you are stuck in traffic, you are stuck. If its about to clear up, it may clear up before your drone can return.

Mostly it wouldn't be that useful since its only useful after you are already stuck. The situations where it might actually provide useful data, seem likely to be outnumbered by the ones where it is useless or, at best, frivilous.

There may be uses of course, but, likely not for traffic scouting.

Pissed off drivers, drones as.... (1)

Rick in China (2934527) | about 9 months ago | (#46189403)

WEAPONS! So you got cut off. You've got a drone at your disposal. Imagine the possibilities.... hack that puppy into a lean mean traffic revenge machine! The roads just got safer my friends!

How about a periscope instead? (1, Insightful)

unitron (5733) | about 9 months ago | (#46189407)

I've often wished for one of those in the car.

Especially after jacked up trucks with with tractor tires became popular.

And please vote this out of the Firehose:

http://slashdot.org/submission... [slashdot.org]

Disapoint... (4, Funny)

rizole (666389) | about 9 months ago | (#46189415)

There's too many off topic comments here. Please stay focused, the topic is fuck beta.

3rd person view in 3...2...1 (1)

triffid_98 (899609) | about 9 months ago | (#46189455)

Seriously, while the 'scout' concept is flawed, a real life cam-bot that can keep up with traffic could be quite useful.

There's no need for a human operator in this case because it's just keeping a static position relative to your vehicle.

What do you think sirs? I'm quite anti-drone, but given that our Orwellian police state seems dead set on having them we may as well get a few perks too.

Great Idea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46189465)

I would love to see this installed in a new Chevy truck dubbed the Scout. Would make scouting and hunting trips much more productive. You could have a passenger fly the drone while the truck is parked at basecamp radioing animal positions to shooters.

Classic - Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46189543)

Can we just rename classic to Beta and tell them they win??? Then we can keep beta!!!

Seriously I lose like 1/3 of my screen when trying to use Beta to read comments compared to maybe 5% with classic. No one that uses it likes it or at the least they are just a tiny minority. Also no one wants the pictures or 2 rows of Title bars at the top, or side panels that take up 1/3 of your screen. So you want some constructive criticism start with that.

People are angry and spewing shit because they care.

Learn from the NewCoke guys --- oops we fucked up - back to Classic, what were we thinking??? Profit!!

Buck Feta! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 9 months ago | (#46189559)

Buck it deep and hard!

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