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Verizon Discontinues Home Automation Service After 2 Years

samzenpus posted about 6 months ago | from the on-your-own dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Verizon has discontinued its Home Monitoring and Control solution, a $10/month service for do-it-yourselfers that enables remote monitoring and control of security, lighting, thermostats and more. The author notes Verizon 'was attempting to become the first successful provider of a DIY security/automation system that had a monthly fee separate from a professionally monitored security system. ... Providers could (and do) charge premiums of $10 or more for automation and self-monitored security as an attachment to professional monitoring, but not as a standalone service.'"

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85 comments

DIY, huh? (3, Interesting)

JohnFen (1641097) | about 6 months ago | (#46213019)

If you're paying a third party for a service, it's not DIY.

I've had DIY home security for almost 20 years now. There's no need to pay for monitoring. When something is worth alerting me about, the system sends me a text ( before that, it paged me).

Re:DIY, huh? (2)

Nos. (179609) | about 6 months ago | (#46213063)

I did this for quite a while too. Unfortunately it doesn't qualify for any insurance discounts, so I went with a system that does. The insurance discount is about equal to the monthly bill, and I don't have to worry about any maintenance.

Re:DIY, huh? (1)

JohnFen (1641097) | about 6 months ago | (#46213153)

That's legit. I'm a little different... any discount that only offsets the cost of the service isn't a big enough discount to tempt me. I'm one of those weirdos who doesn't trust third parties with my data, so I run my own cloud service, my own email server, etc. specifically to minimize the exposure of my data to unaccountable companies.

Re:DIY, huh? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213315)

Hopefully you don't mistake your dog for an intruder one night. It's rare you hear about someone defending their home successfully with a firearm. More commonly they accidentally shoot a loved one. You're human -> humans make mistakes. A mistake with a gun -> a big mistake. You're a human with a gun -> if you make a mistake, it will be big.

Re:DIY, huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213401)

He didn't say anything about guns?

Re:DIY, huh? (1)

JohnFen (1641097) | about 6 months ago | (#46213473)

I think you meant to reply to Mr. Dog & .40 below, not to me.

Re:DIY, huh? (1)

epyT-R (613989) | about 6 months ago | (#46213847)

Take your leftist anti gun rhetoric somewhere else. He didn't even mention guns. Also, it's not in the best interest of free societies to run around telling individuals that they should leave everything to unaccountable 'professionals' (who are also human, too, btw).

Re:DIY, huh? (1)

Mr. Slippery (47854) | about 6 months ago | (#46215419)

Take your leftist anti gun rhetoric somewhere else.

Point of order: there's nothing "leftist" about anti-gun rhetoric. As the socialist writer George Orwell noted, "That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."

You Don't Hear.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46214163)

You don't hear about someone successfully defending themselves or their home with firearms because the so-called press in the US refuses to publish such stories. Yet they are out there. Read Armed Citizen [nraila.org]

Re: You Don't Hear.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46214235)

I'd rather live in a society which doesn't need to arm all the citizens to feel safe. To each their own.

Re: You Don't Hear.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46216003)

I'd rather live in a society which doesn't need to arm all the citizens to feel safe. To each their own.

I'd like to live in a society where I was worshiped as a god...but that's not going to happen either.

Re: You Don't Hear.... (1)

Beyond_GoodandEvil (769135) | about 6 months ago | (#46216771)

I'd like to live in a society where I was worshiped as a god...but that's not going to happen either.
Larry Ellison, is that you?

Re:DIY, huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213533)

Cool thing about monitored services is that they can check to see if your house is being burglarized and alert the local police while you're away on vacation.

Unmonitored systems call 911 too (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46227965)

Unmonitored systems can call 911 too. It's actually a little faster than monitored systems where: the alarm calls the security company - the security company calls you and asks for your password - if no response or wrong password the security company calls 911. Just make sure to minimize the false positives or you'll really piss off the local 911 center.

Re:DIY, huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213435)

I built a DIY audio amplifier once, but I guess I didn't because I pay for the electricity service.

Re:DIY, huh? (1)

JohnFen (1641097) | about 6 months ago | (#46213483)

Monitoring service & electrical service are not comparable things.

Re:DIY, huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46214579)

Oh ok, so because I paid for the music to be played on the amplifier, it wasn't a DIY amplifier. There we go, it's a bit closer now, paying for information instead of energy, but now you'll argue about the direction of the information transfer?

Re:DIY, huh? (1)

JohnFen (1641097) | about 6 months ago | (#46218553)

No, I'll argue that you're paying for a product (the music). If you're paying someone to monitor, you're paying for a service. If this were DIY, you'd be Doing It Yourself rather than paying someone else to do it. But your example does clue me in to the source of our disagreement -- we're talking about different levels of abstraction. For me, the whole point of DIY is to not be reliant on someone for the thing.

My real point is that if Verizon was marketing this as a DIY thing, then there's no mystery as to why it failed. They were offering a service where they "do" for a crowd who wants to do it for themselves.

DIY Security (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213025)

My dog and .40 are the best DIY home security.

Re:DIY Security (0)

Holi (250190) | about 6 months ago | (#46213391)

For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home.

Re:DIY Security (1)

kenai_alpenglow (2709587) | about 6 months ago | (#46213465)

Let's see: That's 7 that might be prevented by having a gun, 11 most likely N/A (they'll figure out some other way), and 4 that might be due to a gun (or just klutzes that might find some other way to remove themselves from the genepool). 7 - 4.....Sounds like we need more guns...

Re:DIY Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213553)

Those who live with by the gun sometimes die by their own gun....

Re:DIY Security (2)

epyT-R (613989) | about 6 months ago | (#46213887)

Those who with a car sometimes die by their own car....

Re:DIY Security (2)

Belial6 (794905) | about 6 months ago | (#46213547)

You do realize that those statistics don't count the majority of times that a gun is used for self defense, right? If someone commits assault or murder, the police are virtually always contacted. When someone commits suicide, the authorities are virtually always contacted. When someone shoots themselves on accident, they will generally go to a hospital, and... the authorities are contacted.

On the other hand, in the vast majority of cases, when a gun is used for self protection in the home, no shots are fired, and the homeowner does not contact the authorities because they then run the risk of being arrested for protecting themselves from a threat that they have already neutralized.

Re:DIY Security (1)

jrumney (197329) | about 6 months ago | (#46214101)

no shots are fired, and the homeowner does not contact the authorities because they then run the risk of being arrested for protecting themselves

So let me get this straight. In the US, you have the much lauded right to bear arms, but it only applies if you actually fire a shot?

Re:DIY Security (1)

Belial6 (794905) | about 6 months ago | (#46214713)

In many places, it is more of a... You only have it if you lock the gun in a safe and never take it out. Especially when there is ammunition in the same room.

Re:DIY Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46217539)

No. This is yet another case of a Conservative lying to themselves because the statistics prove them wrong. It's very common here. You'll see them apply it to everything from Environmentalism, Global Warming, Evolution, Economics, Wars, and now Guns.

Conservative Motto: If reality proves you wrong, reject that reality and substitute your own.

Cite your source. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46218581)

What statistics would those be? There is a plethora of analyses and meta-analyses of violent crime statistics that show, at worst, guns do not affect violent crime rates and at best, they reduce them.

But please, continue to delude yourself that you're the rational one with ad hominem attacks on people you don't understand.

Re:DIY Security (1)

Belial6 (794905) | about 6 months ago | (#46222937)

Liberal Motto: If reality proves you wrong, accuse the other person of being a conservative, reject that reality and substitute your own.

I am not even close to what anyone would call a "Conservative". It's just that Liberals tend to be so batshit insane that they can't even comprehend that there is anything but the Red team and Blue team.

Re:DIY Security (1)

Agripa (139780) | about 6 months ago | (#46233845)

So let me get this straight. In the US, you have the much lauded right to bear arms, but it only applies if you actually fire a shot?

This happened not to long ago in Kansas where a person legally carrying concealed was convicted of a felony for threatening to use deadly force but not actually using it. Had he shot his attacker, he would have saved himself years of legal work.

Re:DIY Security (1)

Ly4 (2353328) | about 6 months ago | (#46215471)

... in the vast majority of cases ... the homeowner does not contact the authorities ...

Bullshit. State laws on the subject vary massively; there's no way to make a blanket statement like that unless you're in confirmation-bias mode.

Re:DIY Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46216039)

... in the vast majority of cases ... the homeowner does not contact the authorities ...

Bullshit. State laws on the subject vary massively; there's no way to make a blanket statement like that unless you're in confirmation-bias mode.

What do laws have to do with contacting the authorities? There are some laws that say you're supposed to get a permit to do construction/electrical work in your house. Yet the vast majority of homeowners who do such work won't bother.

Re:DIY Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213571)

For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home.

That's a heck of a lot of blood to get outta the carpet !

Re:DIY Security (3, Insightful)

epyT-R (613989) | about 6 months ago | (#46213877)

Did you know that for every car manufactured, at least 95% of them are involved in some kind of crime? From parking and traffic violations to human trafficking and murder, cars are the cornerstone for this EPIDEMIC!! ZOMG!

Soccer mom fear mongering doesn't make a good argument for (or against) anything.

I call.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46214189)

bullshit. Show your source.

DIY Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46214191)

And your point is what exactly?

Are you implying that by exercising a natural, civil, and constitutionally protected right to self defense, this person is causing all of the other issues you mentioned?

We kill 30,000 people per year with automobiles. Each time we get behind the wheel we increase the risks for all of those around us. By your logic, we should all give up automobiles to prevent those 30,000 deaths each year.

Rational people, unlike yourself, balance the costs and benefits of every action. Society has balanced these costs with regards to gun ownership and decided that the right to protect oneself with a firearm is so important that we made it number two in the bill of rights.

Re:DIY Security (1)

Lord Lemur (993283) | about 6 months ago | (#46218177)

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Your right to protect oneself with a firearm isn't mentioned. Your right to support a well regulated Militia to defend your free state, and keep and bear Arms are all enumerated, however.

I don't disagree that you have a right to keep an bear arms, just the purpose of the amendment.

But, you see. (1)

publiclurker (952615) | about 6 months ago | (#46214359)

He's trained the dog to bite him if he goes anywhere near the gun, so he's safe.

Re:DIY Security (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | about 6 months ago | (#46215107)

You do know that statistics like that are complete and total BS.

If someone were to encourage an intruder to leave quickly (with no shots fired), there is no accountability nor paper trail. Not everything should turn into a complaint to law enforcement. A lot of those potential intruders learn from their mistake.

If, as another example, the local hoodlums knew someone was well armed, they may choose to avoid trouble with that person. Again, no shots fired. No police reports.

Some of us have a very safe zone around our homes, because the word does get out that we're well armed. It's a smaller scale on the idea of "peace through strength".

Re:DIY Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46215285)

If everyone thinks your too well armed that makes you much less safe. Because the next time some gang bangers need some good guns they know you've got them and could very likely kill you in the progress. Just surprise you someone like ambushing you and then disable you before you can pull a gun. Or even just wait until you leave to go somewhere break in and get the guns.

You can't be ready at all times everywhere you go which means if the attack is a surprise you probably wouldn't have enough time to use a gun even if you have one in a holster on your hip. If they sent you a text message 5 minutes beforehand that they were coming to rob you in 5 minutes then you would have enough time. The crook only needs to be right once, you need to be right every time.

Re:DIY Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46216137)

If everyone thinks your too well armed that makes you much less safe. Because the next time some gang bangers need some good guns they know you've got them and could very likely kill you in the progress. Just surprise you someone like ambushing you and then disable you before you can pull a gun. Or even just wait until you leave to go somewhere break in and get the guns.

You can't be ready at all times everywhere you go which means if the attack is a surprise you probably wouldn't have enough time to use a gun even if you have one in a holster on your hip. If they sent you a text message 5 minutes beforehand that they were coming to rob you in 5 minutes then you would have enough time. The crook only needs to be right once, you need to be right every time.

That's why you hear about gang bangers knocking over police stations and going after cops... cause they know they got some good guns.

Re:DIY Security (1)

JWSmythe (446288) | about 6 months ago | (#46223967)

Like the next AC said.. If someone wants good guns, it's easier to hit a police station, gun store, pawn shop, or the local national guard armory. Police stations can be rough, except the "office" stations, which are basically unmanned outside of normal business hours.

Gun stores are suppose to vault all their weapons after hours. When I've talked to some, they depend on their building security, considering the entire building to be the "vault", including the sales floor.

One gun store was shut down recently, and it made it *real* easy for the state police to empty it. They picked the lock on the front door, disabled the alarm, and moved all the weapons out in a U-Haul. Since they were cleaning the place out, they took their time, and took all the computers and records. It took about an hour.

If they're feeling ungraceful, a ram [swatools.com] can give them access in seconds.

Me, being well armed as an individual, is nothing in comparison to any of the above mentioned facilities.

Still, some criminals are dumb. They'll hit a gas station for the cash in the drawer (frequently under $100), rather than the bank or check cashing store next door.

Re:DIY Security (1)

PPH (736903) | about 6 months ago | (#46215257)

For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home,

... 425 bullshit statistics are quoted by whiny anti gun liberals.

Re:DIY Security (2)

Mr. Slippery (47854) | about 6 months ago | (#46215461)

For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home.

Citation? The lowest number I've seen on defensive gun uses is 64,000 year. That's via a methodology expected to undercount, but even if we assume that it's an overcount and take *half* of it, then defensive gun use is likely to be more than three times as common as homicide via firearm [unreasonable.org] .

Other estimates -- highly controversial ones, to be sure -- put the annual number of DGUs in the millions.

More importantly, those homicides by firearm are mostly being committed by people who already have criminal records. People who are legally barred from getting guns. But laws keep bad guys away from guns as well as drug laws keep junkies away from heroin; and keeping good citizens -- the sort who are unlikely to murder anyone but might come to someone's aid -- away from guns is not only a waste of resources and corrosive to liberty, it's counter-productive to crime prevention.

Firearms accidents are actually rare and you are far more likely to drown or die in a fire than be accidentally shot to death. Suicide is sad but the means are irrelevant, people manage to kill themselves quite well in Japan despite a lack of guns. And comparing DGU "in the home" with felonious shootings "in or around a home" -- a lovely bit of rhetorical misdirection and intellectual dishonesty.

Re:DIY Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46216015)

For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home.

[citation needed]

Re:DIY Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213485)

Where kind of slum do you live in that makes such things necessary?

Re:DIY Security (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213931)

Probably a radiant socialist paradise like detroit.

Re:DIY Security (4, Funny)

Medievalist (16032) | about 6 months ago | (#46213519)

My dog and .40 are the best DIY home security.

Yeah, my dog gets pretty crazy after 40 ounces of malt liquor too.

Re:DIY Security (3, Funny)

edjs (1043612) | about 6 months ago | (#46213569)

So, while the dog pisses on the fire, you shoot into the air to summon emergency services?

Re: DIY Security (1)

Badblackdog (1211452) | about 6 months ago | (#46215387)

Damn right

"Few customers wanted it." (3, Funny)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about 6 months ago | (#46213027)

"It's just as well," the Verizon spokesperson said, "It wasn't close to turning a profit, and that didn't even count the extra costs feeding the home info from all sensors to the NSA, whom we aren't even legally allowed to charge."

Re:"Few customers wanted it." (2)

jeffmeden (135043) | about 6 months ago | (#46213059)

"It's just as well," the Verizon spokesperson said, "It wasn't close to turning a profit, and that didn't even count the extra costs feeding the home info from all sensors to the NSA, whom we aren't even legally allowed to charge."

Are you kidding? The NSA (and other TLAs) get charged a *crapton* for siphoning data from private orgs: http://www.forbes.com/sites/ro... [forbes.com]

Re:"Few customers wanted it." (1)

epyT-R (613989) | about 6 months ago | (#46213961)

Exactly, and the taxpayer foots the bill. we pay for our own oppression.

Re:"Few customers wanted it." (1)

omnichad (1198475) | about 6 months ago | (#46217289)

Well...not that this isn't bad, but where else would it come from? Would you prefer that international funds were used? Some foreign nation or agency?

Y'see, I'm confused... (1)

Chris Mattern (191822) | about 6 months ago | (#46213043)

If you're paying Verizon to do it, how is it DIY?

Re:Y'see, I'm confused... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213605)

The sensor array is DIY, you pay Verizon to hook up your array to their monitoring service.

Rather like if you built your own car then payed tolls to drive it on the government's roads.

Re: Y'see, I'm confused... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46214629)

You install it yourself and monitor it yourself. You're paying for the cloud service that crunches the numbers and delivers messages to the right places. That qualifies as DIY, just as it counts as DIY if you install a cable modem by yourself and pay for Internet services.

Re: Y'see, I'm confused... (1)

PPH (736903) | about 6 months ago | (#46215233)

You install it yourself and monitor it yourself.

Which I did with my own alarm, security camera and home automation systems. Without paying anyone $10/month extra for the privilege of hooking that stuff up to my broadband connection and having worldwide access to it.

Beta hax0r (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213051)

In Sovie Russia beta fuck you

Not in their wheelhouse (3, Interesting)

John3 (85454) | about 6 months ago | (#46213061)

They pushed the service on every call I made to FIOS tech support or Verizon billing, so they certainly communicated the availability of the service. However, they never really had a shot at making this service fly due to a number of challenges.

- There just aren't a lot of devices linked yet within a home, especially since Verizon was targeting a novice and not someone who's played with X10 or can configure their own router.

- Verizon support is terrible for most products, and this would likely have been even worse.

- Who really needs to control their lighting and thermostats more than they already do. By now anyone with a computer or Verizon Internet service likely has a programmable thermostat, motion sensor outdoor lights, and timers on lamps for when they go on vacation. Is it worth paying a bloated company like Verizon $120 a year to help you manage what you're already handling fine for free?

The nail in the coffin was probably Google purchasing Nest. And no, I did not RTFA.

Re:Not in their wheelhouse (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46214597)

By now anyone with a computer or Verizon Internet service likely has a programmable thermostat, motion sensor outdoor lights, and timers on lamps for when they go on vacation.

Actually, no, I have a much more low-tech solution. Ask a friend or family member to house sit for me. Return the favor in kind when they need it.

In Soviet America... (1)

Zanadou (1043400) | about 6 months ago | (#46213071)

"In Soviet America, home automation automates--" nah, I got nothing.

Re:In Soviet America... (1)

bobbied (2522392) | about 6 months ago | (#46213311)

"In Soviet America, home automation automates--" nah, I got nothing.

NSA data mining you...

Re:In Soviet America... (1)

epyT-R (613989) | about 6 months ago | (#46213975)

"In soviet america, home automation automates you." Sounds about right..

But ... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213075)

... did it fuck beta?

So then who is making money on home security? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213095)

ADT stock just plunged 25% recently because they aren't doing well...

Re:So then who is making money on home security? (2)

Captain Splendid (673276) | about 6 months ago | (#46213451)

I'm guessing no one's making any money on home security since at best it's a placebo.

Being secure means paying attention, not acting like an asshole and just generally not being stupid. Which a bunch of cheap sensors and some noisemakers won't come close to replicating.

Not to mention that the kind of people/domiciles that could actually use a boost in security probably don't have the disposable income to throw away on some plastic junk.

Re:So then who is making money on home security? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213611)

Being secure means paying attention, not acting like an asshole and just generally not being stupid.

I never knew it was that easy!! Well, I can tell you, mister, that I'm going to immediately stop being an asshole (after this post) then stop being stupid, and as soon as I start paying attention, Shazaam!! I'm secure!! No plastic junk for me, nosir! Holy shit, how did you become so insightful?

No, Really.

Typing those salty, contrarian comments just cleanses the soul, doesn't it? Doesn't even have to make sense.

Re:So then who is making money on home security? (1)

Captain Splendid (673276) | about 6 months ago | (#46214563)

Speaking from recent personal experience for some of that, actually. But thanks for assuming.

Re:So then who is making money on home security? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46215139)

I'm guessing no one's making any money on home security since at best it's a placebo.

Being secure means paying attention, not acting like an asshole and just generally not being stupid. Which a bunch of cheap sensors and some noisemakers won't come close to replicating.

Not to mention that the kind of people/domiciles that could actually use a boost in security probably don't have the disposable income to throw away on some plastic junk.

What are you talking about. It's definitely not a placebo. The average ADT setup would stop at least >=95% of home burglars. When the system is armed those cheap pieces of plastic will detect anyone getting into the house. Once it goes off it makes a shitload of noise to attract attention and calls the police there. Of course there are ways around it but they would either be too difficult or too much of a hassle for a normal crook. It's not a choice between either Fort Knox level security or nothing. With a normal house your not necessarily trying to make it physically impossible for the person to get in, what you want is for the system to know someones breaking in and then summon the police and scream for the attention of your neighbors.

That also doesn't cover the fact that almost all crooks are going to skip houses with alarms. You don't need to outrun a bear you only need to outrun the person next to you. If your house is alarmed and your neighbors isn't then a crook will rob them instead of you.

Re:So then who is making money on home security? (1)

omnichad (1198475) | about 6 months ago | (#46218181)

almost all crooks are going to skip houses with alarms

This is a good reason to put a battery powered blinking LED somewhere in view of the outside world. It's not like it takes much to make it seem like you might have an alarm system.

Re:So then who is making money on home security? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46215793)

ADT would be better off if you could actually reach a human when you call them about your alarm going off.

Ten-plus minute holds during a massive, nationwide weather event that causes a massive influx of calls? I don't like that, but I can understand it.

Ten-plus minute holds because you decided to send people home to save on payroll? That's bullshit.

ADT needs to get its collective head out of its ass and start giving a shit about customer service.

Aaaarghhhhh! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213113)

OMG, the beta suuuuucks!

every telco thought this was low-hanging fruit. (3, Insightful)

swschrad (312009) | about 6 months ago | (#46213129)

and it hasn't been.

Re:every telco thought this was low-hanging fruit. (1)

jrumney (197329) | about 6 months ago | (#46214075)

The problem with any service like this, is it will never meet the profit precedent set by 160 byte SMS messages, so it is always doomed to failure in the eyes of a Telco.

Beta (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213195)

I'm one of the unfortunate users that got redirected to Beta. Is there a way to turn it off?

Re:Beta (2)

JohnFen (1641097) | about 6 months ago | (#46213253)

There should be a link to the classic interface at the bottom of the page. Click it, and you won't be bothered with the beta anymore. At least, when I got drafted months ago, that's how it worked.

Re:Beta (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46214401)

Thanks, John!

MBA "Leadership" (5, Interesting)

ltrand (933535) | about 6 months ago | (#46213267)

You know its funny, these guys once in a while get to a market too early, then because revenue is too weak, decide it isn't promising enough to invest in. Players enter the market (Nest, Google, etc) and it slowly starts to pick up steam. MBA's higher up decide it's been "long enough" so divest themselves of the endeavor. Mark my words, within the next 36 months there will be an explosion in that marketspace, some Verizon executive is going to scream "why didn't we see this" and then they will take 2 years reentering the market they tried to start.

This is why I laugh at large corporation "innovation".

Re:MBA "Leadership" (1)

Jah-Wren Ryel (80510) | about 6 months ago | (#46213973)

Mark my words, within the next 36 months there will be an explosion in that marketspace

Indeed. Both Lowe's and Staples [cepro.com] have been farting around with standards-based (zigbee, z-wave and wi-fi) home automation equipment for about a year and it looks like they are ramping up for 2014.

Self monitoring for DSC and Honeywell systems (1)

fishb0ne (1190195) | about 6 months ago | (#46213555)

There's just too many DIY options out there for self monitoring to make it worth paying somebody else to do what the owner can themselves. But then again there certainly are different needs for different people. For example EyezOn has a module called Envisalink 3 which works with DSC and Honeywell security systems: it makes them accessible via the web and alerts can be sent via text/email to a number of contacts for a number of events. I've had the module for about a year now, picked it up for around $130, it was easy to install and I am very happy with it. Just throwing it out there.

That's not true (1)

Belial6 (794905) | about 6 months ago | (#46213589)

That is simply not true. These guys have been offering third party monitoring for DIY home security for over a decade.

http://www.smarthome.com/alarm... [smarthome.com]

Security systems aren't home automation. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46213757)

I highly doubt any Verizon customer actually had home automation, because of the extensive rewiring that is required for it to work. Security systems aren't home automation.

Re:Security systems aren't home automation. (2)

masterofthumbs (2881445) | about 6 months ago | (#46213881)

It was mostly things like remote controlled power strips, IP cameras, thermostats, and electronic door locks. I'm not surprised they stopped selling the service since most of those things either don't need a computer to control (IP cameras with a built-in server or a central reciever for multiple cameras) or could just be set to a timer (power outlets and thermostats). It was a neat service for people who didn't want to put in the effort to setup their own stuff and wanted a all-in-one deal to control all of those things but kind of useless in the end.

Hey geniuses (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46215629)

If others are chargin ten dollars and offering more couldn't you just, you know drop the price so it is compeitive? Is that just a forgien concept to a company that faces Duopolies at worst in terms of competition?

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