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Bing Censoring Chinese Language Search Results For Users In the US

Soulskill posted about 8 months ago | from the good-thing-americans-don't-know-foreign-languages dept.

China 100

kc123 sends this report from The Guardian: "Microsoft's search engine Bing appears to be censoring information for Chinese language users in the U.S. in the same way it filters results in mainland China. Searches first conducted by anti-censorship campaigners at FreeWeibo, a tool that allows uncensored search of Chinese blogs, found that Bing returns radically different results in the U.S. for English and Chinese language searches on a series of controversial terms. These include Dalai Lama, June 4 incident (how the Chinese refer to the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989), Falun Gong and FreeGate, a popular internet workaround for government censorship."

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Intentional? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225363)

Direct intervention, or chilling effect?

Re:Intentional? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225385)

It's Beta.

Re:Intentional? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225703)

I know what Beta is, but what's Bing? Another failed UI?

Oblig Ned Ryerson (2, Funny)

binarylarry (1338699) | about 8 months ago | (#46225843)

You don't remember bing?? Because it sure as heckfire remembers you!

BING!

Am I right? Or am I right or am I right?

BING!

Re:Oblig Ned Ryerson (1)

JeffOwl (2858633) | about 8 months ago | (#46228103)

Undoing bad moderation

Re:Intentional? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46226685)

I know what Beta is, but what's Bing? Another failed UI?

Bing: Beta Is Not Good.

Re:Intentional? (5, Insightful)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 8 months ago | (#46225413)

Direct intervention, or chilling effect?

This looks like an unfortunate situation where laziness, malice, and greed all point in the same direction... If the bulk of your Chinese language search results need to be delivered censored, it's presumably easier to just prune your Chinese language search archive rather than burning CPU time censoring on the fly. If Chinese officials are vexed at locals just hitting a proxy and getting uncensored search results, they probably won't exactly discourage you from adopting such a harmonious and efficient practice. And, if MS wants Bing to not get crushed, with a little help from periodic great-firewallings, making themselves helpful to local authorities is a logical move.

Re:Intentional? (1)

flyneye (84093) | about 8 months ago | (#46227381)

On the other hand, Chinese readers/writers here are probably communicating with Chinese there. It makes sense that treasonous Microsoft works hard kissing Chinas ass. China says jump and Gates Co. says how high?.

Re:Intentional? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46233299)

On the other hand, Chinese readers/writers here are probably communicating with Chinese there. It makes sense that treasonous Microsoft works hard kissing Chinas ass. China says jump and Gates Co. says how high?.

More accurately, China says "Jump!" and Microsoft says "How much will you pay us per jump?"
Remember, American Microsoft isn't afraid of China's government - they're afraid of losing the potential profits from China. Huge difference.

Re:Intentional? (1)

flyneye (84093) | about 8 months ago | (#46236759)

I would say they ARE afraid of the government and therefore jump,loss of profit is the motivation for the fear.
The Chinese govt seems to be able to invalidate intellectual property on their whim.
Microsoft is in a permanent crouching position, awaiting the call to jump.

Re:Intentional? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46230257)

That's definitely my first (and given how little I care about Bing, probably the last) thought. Maybe there are companies that don't take the kind of sloppy shortcuts that lead to stuff like this, but Microsoft certainly isn't one of them. Over-generalization seems to be a core value there.

Re:Intentional? (2)

alostpacket (1972110) | about 8 months ago | (#46225427)

Sounds like they are probably just slacking on their locale detection. I bet the browser is sending something like just the two letter language code "zh" (Chinese) in the Accepts-Language header, and bing is falling back on "zh-CN" (instead of "zh-US").

Still, seems like an awfully dumb way to censor search results, not to mention the chilling effect. Kinda puts their "Scroogled" campaign in context.

Re:Intentional? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225449)

Every time I hear "scroogled" I can't help but think of the long defunct encrypted Google search tool... because getting scroogled is something I would have desired.

Re:Intentional? (2)

cold fjord (826450) | about 8 months ago | (#46225561)

I have a hard time believing that the Chinese government would accept locale based filtering like that. It would be too easy to evade.

Re:Intentional? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225607)

Being a governmental shill you would know these things.

Re:Intentional? (1)

cold fjord (826450) | about 8 months ago | (#46225653)

It should be clear to anyone that does any critical thinking. That is a vice that too few of my critics engage in. You should try it some time.

Re:Intentional? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225727)

Nowhere did they say it was the only method being used. It's simply posited a first pass way to catch all the low hanging fruit. There's no reason it wouldn't be used at some level to catch the vast majority of people who don't dick with such settings. Secondly, there is no real "critical thinking" in parroting talking points, shill boy.

Re:Intentional? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225893)

And bang, there it is. Nitwit.

Re:Intentional? (1)

alostpacket (1972110) | about 8 months ago | (#46227553)

Not saying it's the only thing the Chinese use, but it looks (based on this mess up by MS) to be at least one of the things they use. At least that's how it appears to me. Perhaps the great firewall re-wites Accepts-Lang headers. I am just guessing though.

Re:Intentional? (1)

david_thornley (598059) | about 8 months ago | (#46232961)

And who the bleep cares about what the Chinese government thinks when searching the web from the US? They can run things within their own borders, but a Chinese-speaking US citizen in the US is not under their jurisdiction in the slightest. Are you next going to argue that searches in English should be regulated by English law?

Re:Intentional? (4, Funny)

spitzak (4019) | about 8 months ago | (#46225919)

Google can use the term "bingled!" in their ads maybe

Re:Intentional? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46227421)

I read that in Zoidbers voice.

Re:Intentional? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46228591)

Why, that sounds almost cheery!

Needs more irritating tone. Like maybe: "binged and purged" as in, "Are your search results getting BINGed and purged???"

it's just cheaper (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225439)

Having Bing automatically censor all Chinese language searches is a good business move. >93% of users of the Chinese Language live in the PRC, so why bother with the complexity of making an uncensored search engine?

Re:it's just cheaper (3, Insightful)

Opportunist (166417) | about 8 months ago | (#46226333)

Because 7% of a billion is still 70 million potential users?

Re:it's just cheaper (2)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about 8 months ago | (#46228279)

Also because it's wrong?

"Do do evil.'

Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (1, Troll)

Camael (1048726) | about 8 months ago | (#46225645)

All search engines should just let all the search results show and let the user decide what he wants/ does not want to see with the use of filters, etc.

Any censorship of the results is clearly an attempt at mind control, a prime example being censoring all bad news relating to a country to make it come up smelling like roses.

Yet another reason to avoid Bing like plague.

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225679)

Oh how cute and naive... You go start a search engine business in China and tell the government officials your little spiel. Once you get out of prison you can tell us how well that went over.

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (1)

Opportunist (166417) | about 8 months ago | (#46226337)

If our industry didn't bend over to their regime it would end pretty fuckin' quickly. But profit trumps freedom.

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46227747)

Says the guy who will ultimately do nothing but whine from a keyboard.

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46228139)

Funny,

Since that is the law in China and you are advising that some company intentionally violate it, does that mean i can come to your country (which ever it may be) and violate some law that prevents me from making a profit?

Let me guess, its a one way street right?

its not really your place to dictate how another country is run. If the chinese are unhappy with it they should have it changed. Not saying its true, but have you considered that perhaps as a society they want some censorship?

You trying to say we don't censor as well? If so, i have a bridge i can sell you.

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46228261)

Since that is the law in China and you are advising that some company intentionally violate it, does that mean i can come to your country (which ever it may be) and violate some law that prevents me from making a profit?

Um, no. What Opportunist is saying is that if something is not a crime in the country you are presently in, then you just keep on doing it, regardless of whether or not that violates a law in a different country. You have violated no law if someone from China uses your US-based services to violate their law.

However, I am aware that Microsoft does have a presence in China, making this a little more difficult to actually pull off.

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46234835)

Doesnt seem to apply to US copyright laws does it?

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (4, Insightful)

TrollstonButterbeans (2914995) | about 8 months ago | (#46225839)

Protip: Your search engine results are censored. (DCMA takedowns, NSA, porn filters, sites deemed infected by viruses, even -- *GASP* political filtering even in Western countries -- no kidding, various local laws that muck with search engines, stuff snuffed out by anti-terrorism laws).

Hint: Google is probably more filtered because it is more successful, everyone knows what Google is --- most non-nerds people probably don't know what Bing is.

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 8 months ago | (#46227617)

Not at +5 yet! Mod up!

How is the Western world pulling radical Islamic speech from YouTube etc. really different from the Chinese censoring religions they don't like? And I don't think their government has granted anything as powerful and unaccountable as the DMCA to their corporations...

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46228281)

You, Sir, are correct. ALL western countries use that crap, the net aint free-information anymore. Search results vary, whether its "tailored" to you, locaility, language preference, regional settings, flag or person-of-interest catagories, etc. etc.

It happens to me all the time, usually its the national and international gov apparatae, but they are using services offered by google,ms-bing, etc, etc.
Now wheres that "bubonic chronic" video!? ISRAELI WMD! biological, nuclear, chemical

mod up.

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46228617)

Your search engine results are censored.

No one said they aren't, that is something you made up to try and prove an imaginary point.

What is happening here is Bing is censoring based on Chinese laws, to users outside of China. That is not at all like Google censoring based on US laws, to users inside the US. So in that regard, it is better to use Google than Bing, because you "know" Google isn't going to change your results based on some other country's laws.

Now, does Google also apply those same US censoring guidelines to users outside the US? I'm sure they do. So in that regard, yes, Google is no different from Bing. But that wasn't your argument. Your argument was simply "herp derp Google censors too derp".

I'd call you a Bing shill, but since you'd failed to mention the obvious accurate comparison, I'm not sure what you are.

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46229723)

"Protip"? "Hint"? Are you twelve years old or what?

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46230341)

I think you're greatly underestimating the reach of television advertising. Maybe they don't actually know what it is, but everyone seems to know what it isn't: Something you use.

Captcha: [no fucking idea]

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (2)

bloodhawk (813939) | about 8 months ago | (#46225943)

And what search engine that is actually usefull doesn't censor results? all of the major engines do it as they have to in order to comply with various countries laws, even western countries demand a certain degree of censorship.

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (1)

Will.Woodhull (1038600) | about 8 months ago | (#46226305)

It is one thing to apply censorship filters to comply with various countries laws when operating inside that country. But it is an entirely different thing to apply those same filters in other countries where there are no censorship laws.

I think we need a word for that. It is after all an entirely new type of corporate fuck-up. I think "bingled" would be an excellent word for when a corporation does unnecessary censoring to comply with some other country's laws. And stuff like that.

Re:Pretty tired of all this censorship, really. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46236117)

pick your poison I guess. Have your data sold by google to the highest bidder or get lazy results.... personally I think anything is better than google, it is just sad there isn't a viable 3rd option.

Re: Intentional? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46226645)

Self censorship goes a long way toward opening doors to opportunities, and keeping other doors from closing.

FUCK BETA!!! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225377)

They should censor the beta site.

Fuck beta!!!

Re: FUCK BETA!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225409)

You've made your point. They'll either choose to listen to you or ignore you from now on.

So please, shut the hell up already. You're only annoying the people who support you at this point. TPTB have long since moved on.

Re: FUCK BETA!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225805)

And it's little dog too

Re: FUCK BETA!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225917)

Don't think you get it. If beta continues this crap will just continue until the site is dead. There are many people that feel burned by DICE and will not want slashdot to have any success after announcing they don't care about the community.

Re: FUCK BETA!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46226659)

The anti-slashdot beta protest has already come and gone. It's a done deal, they were not successful, and the remaining vulgar protestors will soon enough be dealt with as spam is on any site, ie rendered invisible.
The next battle will be building traffic to make up for the users who left.

Not surprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225379)

I wonder how long it has been going on.

Buck feta! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225403)

Since Dice.com has been pushing the shitty beta.

So... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225397)

I guess it's to counter people in mainland china who use VPN but don't have a good understanding of any other language?

If you can search in Chinese, you must be Chinese. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225431)

So if i'm searching from outside China but in Chinese, perhaps I'm *really* searching from within China via a VPN? Let's take no chances....

Tell me (1)

Revek (133289) | about 8 months ago | (#46225451)

What governmental model does a corporation represent? I've always seen the corps at best as a communist state. At worst, a personality cult.

Re:Tell me (1)

ShanghaiBill (739463) | about 8 months ago | (#46225711)

What governmental model does a corporation represent?

Just look at the example of the corporation that actually ran a country [wikipedia.org] , raised armies, and even waged war [wikipedia.org] in its own name.

Re:Tell me (1)

khallow (566160) | about 8 months ago | (#46225771)

Or Congo Free State [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Tell me (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225713)

-1 Flamebait

Re:Tell me (1)

TapeCutter (624760) | about 8 months ago | (#46226483)

What governmental model does a corporation represent?

Not sure, but many bosses from many companies have assured me that it's "not a democracy".

Re:Tell me (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 8 months ago | (#46227669)

Huh, communist? Well I guess it's a lot like how communism turned out in practice - concentrating all productivity to lavish luxury on the "politburo" while making promises of helping everyone better themselves and failing miserably at it, until the whole system collapsed under the disproportionate consumption of the politburo. Like jumping into the later stages of capitalism and then playing out the end at high speed.

In theory, it's closest to a fascist dictatorship.

Re:Tell me (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about 8 months ago | (#46227769)

What governmental model does a corporation represent?

Well, I would say it's mostly equivalent to Oligarchy [wikipedia.org] or Feudalism [wikipedia.org] .

Corporations seldom act like communists states because it's the people at the top who get the big money and the perks with little concern for the rest (which is how *all* states end up I guess), though if you mean the Tyranny [reference.com] bit, then maybe.

Essentially rule by the wealthy and powerful over everyone else is what I've seen in most companies.

And, like most despots, usually the people at the top eventually believe their own story, and lose touch with what everyone else is doing -- and then you get your cult of personality.

All 7 users! (0)

Tablizer (95088) | about 8 months ago | (#46225457)

All 7 users!

Re:All 7 users! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225481)

So their userbase has nearly tripled recently?

Actually its probably innocent (4, Interesting)

Karmashock (2415832) | about 8 months ago | (#46225477)

They find searches based on what people click on when they search things.

If chinese language users in the filtered system can't see those links then they will have a lower rank if that search system is combined with the unfiltered system.

Therefore, the real solution is to compartmentalize the two lists rather then combining them.

Re:Actually its probably innocent (1)

Cimexus (1355033) | about 8 months ago | (#46225675)

Yes this is quite possible. It may be that the searches are bringing up what users entering previous Chinese-language searches for similar terms eventually clicked on (i.e. what is more commonly deemed 'interesting' or 'relevant' to the users searching for those terms). English-language users would generally be interested in different results than Chinese users, and from the search engine's perspective, English and Chinese searches for the 'same thing' are two completely unrelated searches.

Simple example. If an English user types in Tienanmen Square, chances are a good percentage of them are looking for information about the massacre. However, if a Chinese user types in the equivalent Chinese search term (stupid Slashdot, no Unicode), they ~may~ be looking for information about that ... but probably not. There'd be a much higher proportion of Chinese-language results containing the term that have nothing to do with the massacre, compared to English sites (because in English, let's face it, it's one of the first things that springs into your mind when someone mentions Tiananmen). Because most Chinese ~sources~ are censored, the type of search results you get back reflects this.

So it's not necessarily active censorship, just search results (in a particular language) reflecting the predominant content (in that language) for the search term.

Not to say it's NOT active censorship ... but there's a 'innocent' answer for this as well.

Re:Actually its probably innocent (1)

Will.Woodhull (1038600) | about 8 months ago | (#46226345)

If I understand your point correctly, then it would be easy for someone bilingual in Chinese and English to test this by Googling on the same terms, once in each language. Alas, I do not understand Chinese.

Anyone want to take that on? See if the same thing happens with Google as with Bing?

Re:Actually its probably innocent (1)

jader3rd (2222716) | about 8 months ago | (#46226415)

If I understand your point correctly, then it would be easy for someone bilingual in Chinese and English to test this by Googling on the same terms, once in each language. Alas, I do not understand Chinese.

Anyone want to take that on? See if the same thing happens with Google as with Bing?

That's not quite an Apples to Apples comparison, because Google doesn't do a filter for China, and Google might be better at factoring in other language click through's than Bing is.

Re:Actually its probably innocent (1)

TapeCutter (624760) | about 8 months ago | (#46226691)

Media companies have no problem "censoring" videos from geographical regions using the IP address and a look-up table. They put the time and effort into it because they believe they can make money out of it. Bing appears to do the opposite, ie: they don't put anything into it because they believe they won't get anything out of it. Both scenarios are "unintended consequences" of allowing the accountants to run the company. Intangible value that cannot be assessed in dollar terms is simply ignored because it's assumed it's more profitable to do so.

What will happen over the next few weeks/months is that bing marketers will asses the damage this revelation cost in dollar terms to their brand. If the marketing department want it changed then they will have to "pay" the technical department to make the change. Accountants do their sums and if the boffins want more to fix it than what the shills say it's worth, then it's unlikely to change.

Re:Actually its probably innocent (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46228169)

Interesting,

My wife is bilingual (read/write/speak both Chinese and English) , maybe i can get her to test the theory...

Re:Actually its probably innocent (1)

symbolset (646467) | about 8 months ago | (#46226443)

squints Yer not from around here, are you?

Re:Actually its probably innocent (1)

Karmashock (2415832) | about 8 months ago | (#46226937)

Been here for awhile... :)

Re:Actually its probably innocent (1)

Gunboat_Diplomat (3390511) | about 8 months ago | (#46226605)

They find searches based on what people click on when they search things.

If chinese language users in the filtered system can't see those links then they will have a lower rank if that search system is combined with the unfiltered system.

Therefore, the real solution is to compartmentalize the two lists rather then combining them.

This is a very good point. This report doesn't appear to say directly that search results are actually missing (eg. outright blocked), just that they are different. It if is just a case of different automated ranking based on user behaviour then that's another story.

Re:Actually its probably innocent (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 8 months ago | (#46227729)

Possibly. A lot of Chinese people, in China, are apparently offended by any reminder of the "June 4 incident." Look up what happened when Cirque du Soleil used a pic of Tank Man in a background video in one of their performances:

http://www.cnn.com/2013/08/15/... [cnn.com]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08... [nytimes.com]

So maybe they have become their own censors and Bing gives them what they want.

Re:Actually its probably innocent (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about 8 months ago | (#46228311)

Wasn't that a patent owned by Jeeves.com or someone? Increasing rank based on what people clicked on, thus mining the best results from empirical data?

Re:Actually its probably innocent (1)

Karmashock (2415832) | about 8 months ago | (#46233267)

well all the search engines do that so I don't see how...

Seems to work with with Traditional Chinese (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225503)

Mainlanders just need to learn to search in Traditional Chinese instead of Simplified Chinese.

Is it possible..... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225585)

that their click metrics are being tracked worldwide and grouped by language? So because 1 billion chinese are censored they most likely click the uncensored/approved links (since they can't see the other ones) and skew the sorting for anyone else using the chinese language version?

Just a thought, maybe someone knows a little more about what they actually track.

Stop the world I want off (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225617)

As a people we really suck. We will lose our position in the world and we deserve to.

Re:Stop the world I want off (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225633)

Hear hear!

Business as usual (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225691)

Mickeysoft does for China and the PLA what it does for Uncle Sam and the NSA. Bend over, give them anything they want, and give them a booklet to help them help themselves, and censor whatever they want. According to Mickeysoft, the customer is very strictly the one who pays, and 'user' is not necessarily 'customer'.

Re: Business as usual (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46226687)

Is this the new slashdot "thing?" Instead of M$ we now say "mickeysoft" to sound edgy?
Please tell me you are a teenage kid trying to sound like an angry adult, and not actually a member of the workforce or registered voter.

different index for each language (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225737)

Bing has a different index for each language. If you compare any two languages on Bing the results and cached version are different

Probably (0)

Greyfox (87712) | about 8 months ago | (#46225779)

Too many dongs.

Remember scroogled? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46225915)

Well, don't get Microfucked by Micro$oft.

Re:Remember scroogled? (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 8 months ago | (#46227737)

In my experience, you're more likely to get Megafucked by Microsoft.

That's what you get for using Bing. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46226257)

Who really expected Bing to above such things?

Simplified or Traditional? (2)

Kylon99 (2430624) | about 8 months ago | (#46226283)

The article only gives Simplified Chinese examples, but is this happening to Traditional Chinese searches too? The two are machine translatable (except probably for one or two characters) so I would not be surprised if search engines simplified things by converting to one or the other before doing a search. So I suspect both.

Which is kinda huge. It's not just Chinese searches from the US or any other country, what about searches from Hong Kong and Taiwan, which use Traditional? Censoring on behalf of the Communist Government in these places would seriously be looked down on.

And what about Singapore which uses Simplified Chinese? I don't imagine they will be pleased to suffer Mainland censorship either.

I sure hope it's just a glitch. Probably not Microsoft automatically kowtowing to China. Probably.

Re:Simplified or Traditional? (1)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 8 months ago | (#46229665)

And what about Singapore which uses Simplified Chinese? I don't imagine they will be pleased to suffer Mainland censorship either.

Is it censorship or just what different people search for? After all, perhaps they're looking at travel or other things and are not interested in the incident?

And Singapore has its own "great firewall" (in fact, a lot of countries do). It's just the Chinese one is a lot more publicized. (They were in the planning ages around 1995 or so and I think It came in a few years later).

You Just Got MicroShafted (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46226317)

Right up the wazoo.

the real news is... (2)

hherb (229558) | about 8 months ago | (#46226701)

that there really might be somebody out there who is actually using BING. Never met any such creature in real life though

SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid (1)

lesincompetent (2836253) | about 8 months ago | (#46226709)

You mean Tiananmen Square MASSACRE, right?

Re:SubjectsInCommentsAreStupid (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46228511)

Opium Warring-states period, britishit withdrawals, boston-brahmins
BB (benjamin Netanyahu) is a war-criminal and should be admonished. with targetted ads. and search filtering.

Ariel Sharon WAR CRIMES, Sabra and Shatila MASSACRE by proxy. WHITE PHOSPHOUROS dropped on Palestinians. 30ft-high walls BLOCKING PEOPLE FROM GOING TO GET A JOB

Agent Orange

skdasdla (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46227223)

bye bye slashdot

if you guys keep this BETA shit up i wont be coming back.

bingled (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46227327)

Don't get Bingled.

Old news (1)

arnott (789715) | about 8 months ago | (#46227571)

Microsoft search always did this, and this has been reported before [nytimes.com] . This blog post is from 2009.

The country is called "China" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46227585)

It's called "China". Why do Americans almost univerally insist on referring to it as "mainland China"? You don't refer to Russia as "mainland Russia" or Brazil as "mainland Brazil", so why do it when talking about China?

You don't even do it for Europe, when "mainland Europe" might at least distinguish the rest of the continent from the British Isles, Sicily etc.

Re:The country is called "China" (1)

GameboyRMH (1153867) | about 8 months ago | (#46227759)

To make it clear that Taiwan, Tibet and the Senkaku islands are not included of course...if it gets on China's nerves, I'd support it.

Re:The country is called "China" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46228357)

In communist israel, you goys get shat on. Take that to your Central (west) Bank.

Israeli Nuclear Weapons, Chemical weapons, biological weapons, violations of ethics, violations of Palestinian human rights dont make the news, and dont make the Chinese search results.
Try searching for AIPAC political contributions, cronyism etc, IT WILL NOT RETURN MATCHES ON YOUR "land of the free" SEARCH ENGINE.
Score a few billion for the Chinese.

The most important question is: (1)

Optali (809880) | about 8 months ago | (#46228829)

how the hell did they figure that out if it was written in Chinese?

The just hurts China (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46229191)

This just hurts China and Bing in the long run. Once people realize that searches in Chinese return incomplete and less reliable results, they'll do their searches in some other language with some other engine. English, for instance, with DuckDuckGo or Google.

Chinese Censorship. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46229877)

This makes perfect sense. The Chinese government claims to represent all Chinese peoples where ever they are, a logical extension of this policy is juristiction. I would not be surprised if we found that Microsoft has its Chinese language search engine results linked to their presence in the Chinese market. In other words they are being blackmailed to censor all their search results as if they were in China when dealing with Chinese. It's too bad the US has reduced the internet to a state of nature as we have no leverage with which to counter this. Get ready folks, there'll be more of this to come.

Affecting so many (1)

mdwstmusik (853733) | about 8 months ago | (#46229985)

Bing users...living in the U.S....who speak Chinese and no English. This has got to affecting a massive amount of users.

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