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Majority of Young American Adults Think Astrology Is a Science

Unknown Lamer posted about 7 months ago | from the where's-carl-sagan-when-you-need-him? dept.

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Hugh Pickens DOT Com writes "Americans have always had a strange fascination with astrology. First Lady Nancy Reagan famously employed the services of an astrologer after the assassination attempt on her husband. Now UPI reports that according to a new survey by the National Science Foundation, nearly half of all Americans say astrology is either 'very' or 'sort of' scientific. Younger respondents, in particular, were the least likely to regard astrology as unscientific, with 58% of 18 to 24 years olds saying that astrology is scientific (PDF). What's most alarming is that American attitudes about science are moving in the wrong direction. Skepticism of astrology hit an all-time high in 2004, when 66 percent of Americans said astrology was total nonsense. But each year, fewer and fewer respondents have dismissed the connections between star alignment and personality as bunk. Among respondents in the 25 — 44 age group 49% of respondents in the 2012 survey said astrology is either 'very scientific' or 'sort of scientific,' up from 36% in 2010. So what's behind this data? The lead author of the report chapter in question, public opinion specialist John Besley of Michigan State University, cautions that we should probably wait for further data 'to see if it's a real change' before speculating. But, he admits, the apparent increase in astrology belief 'popped out to me when I saw it.'"

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And in other news... (4, Interesting)

Type44Q (1233630) | about 7 months ago | (#46227901)

Majority of Young American Adults Think a Comma is Nike's "Swoosh" Symbol.

Re:And in other news... (1, Funny)

Big Hairy Ian (1155547) | about 7 months ago | (#46227941)

The majority of young Americans think a burger is one of your five a day!

Re:And in other news... (4, Insightful)

ackthpt (218170) | about 7 months ago | (#46228173)

Majority of young Americans think health care is something only old people need.

Majority of young Americans would like Beta, if th (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228197)

Majority of young Americans would like Beta, if they ever came here in the first place.

Re:And in other news... (0)

nitehawk214 (222219) | about 7 months ago | (#46228163)

Majority of Young American Adults Think a Comma is Nike's "Swoosh" Symbol.

To keep it on topic... "Majority of Young American Adults Think a Comet is the thing you use instead of a period."

Re:And in other news... (2)

Big Hairy Ian (1155547) | about 7 months ago | (#46228237)

Depending on the time of the month some young Americans were just confused :D

Re:And in other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228249)

Majority of Young American Adults Think a Comma is Nike's "Swoosh" Symbol.

To keep it on topic... "Majority of Young American Adults Think a Comet is the thing you use instead of a period."

A majority of American young adults think "axe" means to request a question verbally of someone.

Re:And in other news... (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | about 7 months ago | (#46228293)

Majority of Young American Adults think a period is something their girlfriend keeps missing.

Re:And in other news... (1)

Big Hairy Ian (1155547) | about 7 months ago | (#46228211)

Just try to get them to find Paris France on a map!

Re:And in other news... (1)

mark_reh (2015546) | about 7 months ago | (#46228239)

But they'll tell you whose shoes Paris Hilton is wearing this week.

Re:And in other news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228291)

That's easy. Tell them to locate the city of Quyquo and ask them to correctly pronounce the name of that town.

Re:And in other news... (1)

bickerdyke (670000) | about 7 months ago | (#46228343)

Try to get them to find ANY Paris on a map...

Or France.

More likely (5, Interesting)

OblongPlatypus (233746) | about 7 months ago | (#46227907)

The decrease in astrology's visibility (people no longer read magazines, and "horoscope blogs" don't seem to have become a thing) may just have led to most young people not having a clue and assuming astrology = astronomy.

Re:More likely (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46227925)

I'm praying this is the case. Because if my future children end up believing in this bullshit, I swear to god they're being cut out of my will and I will need to find some Asian child to adopt.

Re:More likely (4, Funny)

sandytaru (1158959) | about 7 months ago | (#46228133)

Just make sure not to adopt one born in the Year of the Goat. I hear they tend to be flakey. Try for a Horse or a Dragon.

Re:More likely (0)

Big Hairy Ian (1155547) | about 7 months ago | (#46227961)

Next they'll start believing nutritionists are scientists!

Re:More likely (2, Interesting)

Mashiki (184564) | about 7 months ago | (#46228077)

Considering that people believe that BMI is an actual method to measure body fat? I wouldn't doubt it.

Re:More likely (1)

thaylin (555395) | about 7 months ago | (#46228097)

Well my Cardiologist loves to go on about BMI...

Re:More likely (1)

Mashiki (184564) | about 7 months ago | (#46228339)

Yeah, so did mine until I pointed out that hydrostatic measuring, or ADP are really the only good ways to measure it. It's such a poor method of measurement that if you asked someone to piss in a glass and used that to measure their body fat, it would probably be more accurate. If you go look up the history of BMI(including the peered research on it), you'll quickly find out exactly how flawed it is. It's right up there with astrology in terms of a "science."

Re:More likely (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228389)

It's cardionomer, you moron! Or cardiophysicist if you will! Cardionomy is the real science, cardiology is an old, debunked pseudo-science.

Re:More likely (2)

benjfowler (239527) | about 7 months ago | (#46228317)

Until a few years ago, I didn't actually know the difference between dieticians and nutritionists. I also thought that chiro-quackery was legit too.

Probably because of the atrocious state of Australian free-to-air TV, which is as dumb as dogshit, and always has been.

Re: More likely (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46227983)

Facebook apps. This shit shows up everywhere on social media because 'fortune' is an easy port.

Re:More likely (1, Insightful)

LoRdTAW (99712) | about 7 months ago | (#46228017)

I'll second that. They are most likely mixing up the two words.

Re:More likely (4, Informative)

ShanghaiBill (739463) | about 7 months ago | (#46228319)

When I was growing up in the 1970s, it was common for people at parties to ask "What's your sign?" and "Age of Aquairus" was playing on the radio. Today, I almost never hear about astrology. I find it hard to believe that is anywhere near as popular as it used to be. Hold on, let me go get some real world empirical data ... okay, I just asked my 15 year old daughter how many of her friends believe in astrology. Her response: "What's astrology?"

 

Re: More likely (5, Interesting)

Dayze!Confused (717774) | about 7 months ago | (#46228031)

This is why Neil deGrasse Tyson prefers the term astro physics.

Re: More likely (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228341)

That's not science, my aunt calls the 1-900 physics-hotline and all they pretend to tell her the future for $3.99 a minute!

Re:More likely (2)

fiziko (97143) | about 7 months ago | (#46228089)

Entirely possible. I used to mark assignments for a first-year University astronomy class, and about 6-7% of the students were upset that astrology wasn't included.

Re:More likely (1)

Trevin (570491) | about 7 months ago | (#46228099)

I was going to say young people confuse the two as well, not because they don’t know about astrology but because spelling skills are dwindling.

Re:More likely (2)

microbox (704317) | about 7 months ago | (#46228167)

The anti-science movement seems to be very active as well: vaccines, intelligent design, life-at-conception, aliens, GMOs, homeopathy et al., agw denial...

Everyone seems to pick and choose when they are pro-science depending on how pleasant the topic is to the ear.

Re:More likely (1)

1s44c (552956) | about 7 months ago | (#46228241)

That's what I was thinking. If you ask a random person 'is astrology a science?' they will hear 'is astronomy a science?'

I don't hear people talking about the future predicting nonsense in any context.

Re:More likely (4, Insightful)

MiniMike (234881) | about 7 months ago | (#46228245)

most young people not having a clue and assuming astrology = astronomy.

I find this only slightly less depressing.

Re:More likely (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228265)

That's what gets me every time. I keep confusing the two names; but can you blame me? Biology, zoology, paleontology, astrology?

Re:More likely (1)

Andrewkov (140579) | about 7 months ago | (#46228381)

You must really be confused about Scientology..

And they vote! (4, Interesting)

fastgriz (1052034) | about 7 months ago | (#46227921)

Explains the government we have.

Founding fathers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228191)

Considering the founding fathers believed in Astrology greatly and paid astrologists to guide their decisions, yet we had a fantastic low federal power, state focused government, I dont think that matters, the core issue is people vote for who helps them and their tax bracket the most.

Re:And they vote! (0)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 7 months ago | (#46228419)

No it doesn't. First off, they don't vote as often as they should. [courantblogs.com] Second, the tea party isn't a particularly young group [gallup.com] , so at least half of the dynamic in Washington cannot be laid at the feet of young astrologists. Third, just my opinion, but while astrology isn't science, the republican party is even further from science. The philosophy there seems to be change the world to fit political ideology, not vice versa. Taxes must be cut because we took a pledge saying taxes must be cut. We're going to crucify scientists saying climate change is happening because we know it isn't because our donors told us it isn't.

In conclusion, jokes need to have at least a kernel of truth to them in order to be funny.

Typo/misread? (5, Interesting)

Sockatume (732728) | about 7 months ago | (#46227923)

If I was skimming a survey that asked about scientific topics I'd probably read "astrology" as "astronomy" by accident. I'd possibly even chalk it up to a typo and deliberately substitute the two. I'm reading the paper right now to see if they accounted for this.

Astrology (4, Funny)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 7 months ago | (#46227943)

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Re:Typo/misread? (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about 7 months ago | (#46227957)

It looks like the report aggregates about 30 surveys and unfortunately doesn't reference individual data sources for the astrology discussion. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who's done or worked on one of these surveys to see if they investigated this.

Re:Typo/misread? - Unlikely (1)

JoshuaZ (1134087) | about 7 months ago | (#46228025)

This would be a reason to worry less if it were a single data point. But this sort of explanation doesn't help explain the apparent increase over time unless you think people are getting less careful about reading questions or using context recognition.

Re:Typo/misread? (1, Informative)

Tom (822) | about 7 months ago | (#46228155)

I think you are trying to rationalize the results away because you don't want to admit that officially now 40% of americans are blabbering imbeciles.

There's no other way to put it. And that's the brilliance of the paper. They don't ask if anyone "believes" in astrology or any such thing. They ask a question that has an objective true or false value.

Re:Typo/misread? (1)

Sockatume (732728) | about 7 months ago | (#46228253)

I've not got a horse in this race, being a non-American. (If we were going to talk troubling survey results, the nontrivial minority in the US who think the moon landings were faked is equally alarming.) I just have an intellectual itch to scratch, and I'd like to see (for example) what happens when you issue the same test in English versus a different language where astronomy and astrology aren't cognates.

Just not young people... (1)

QuantumLeaper (607189) | about 7 months ago | (#46227945)

Michael Behe thought astrology was science too, I guess that didn't help the case in Dover. The problem is just not young people think astrology is science, scientists think the same way.

Re:Just not young people... (1)

IRWolfie- (1148617) | about 7 months ago | (#46228083)

" The problem is just not young people think astrology is science, scientists think the same way." That is the most ridiculous statement I have heard. One contrarian scientist doesn't equate to "scientists" without further qualification.

IT IS SCIENCE (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46227947)

It's a science of extracting money from gullible people.

More also want a job as a vegetarion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46227953)

Rather than vetrinarion. Didn't RTFA. But did they control for those that heard/read astronomy wheb they said astrology.

Re:More also want a job as a vegetarion (2)

Diss Champ (934796) | about 7 months ago | (#46227993)

Personally, I'd much prefer a job as a veterinarian to one as a vegetarian.

I can imagine the signs held by those who want a job as a vegetarian though:

"Will work for no food!"

Re:More also want a job as a vegetarion (2)

MiniMike (234881) | about 7 months ago | (#46228295)

A non-vegetarian veterinarian is a job where you can still eat when your customers don't pay you.

Astronomy Mix up (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46227955)

I'd love to know how many of the respondents mis-read the question as Astronomy instead.

Religion (1)

TempleOS (3394245) | about 7 months ago | (#46227963)

I used to be an atheist until God talked. I'm not all as excited as I used to be about fighting superstition. You are like a ten year old who hasn't discovered girls yet. God can synchronize and does synchronize all the events of the world.

Re:Religion (1)

some old guy (674482) | about 7 months ago | (#46228219)

The invisible tentacles of the Flying Spaghetti Monster reach everywhere.

And how much Astrology/Astronomy confusion is that (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46227967)

Interestingly the etymology explains such confusion:
    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=astrology

Crappy economy = more reliance on faith? (-1, Flamebait)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about 7 months ago | (#46227981)

>> what's behind this data?

I think the grind of the crappy economy over the past five years is driving more people back into the arms of faith, including astrology because it has such an easy on-ramp. (Published horoscopes...) Anyone know any surveys that might confirm/deny?

pedophilia (1)

TempleOS (3394245) | about 7 months ago | (#46227985)

The Brits love pedophilia. It's not about pedophilia, it's about religion and power. I'm kinda laughing waiting for them to discover God.

science? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228007)

A majority think Biology is a science!

Prior data may suggest what is going on (4, Interesting)

JoshuaZ (1134087) | about 7 months ago | (#46228009)

There's prior evidence that higher education and intelligence levels lead to rejection of astrology. See http://www.unz.com/gnxp/the-less-intelligent-more-likely-to-accept-astrology-as-scientific/ [unz.com] . However, astrology is more commonly believed on the left than on the right end of the political spectrum as measured by self-identified conservatives or liberals. See the prior link where about only 65% of liberals declare astrology to be not at all scientific as opposed to about 75% of conservatives.. (In general a lot of different pseudoscientific beliefs end up being more or less common on one end of the political spectrum, although these can change over time, such as anti-vaccination attitudes becoming more common on the right after the HPV vaccine came out.) The correlation is not that strong, but there has been a left-ward trend in the US in the last few years. It is possible that memetic drag has thus increased the belief in astrology.

Re:Prior data may suggest what is going on (2)

TheNastyInThePasty (2382648) | about 7 months ago | (#46228323)

The country has moved further left? Hardly. Instead, the center point has leaped further to the right. Many of this president's poilicies are no more liberal than Ronald Reagan yet the far right calls him a socialist. Check this out [voteview.com] . Look at the graph labeled "Party Means on Liberal-Conservative Dimension" and notice the jump on the conservative side. In particular, the Republican House of Representatives.

One day of working for a paper would convince them (5, Interesting)

WillAdams (45638) | about 7 months ago | (#46228015)

that astrology is intended as nothing more than entertainment --- the ``forecasts'' in a given newspaper each day are chosen from a set of a number of different forecasts, each of which is intended to fill up a different amount of space, e.g., if newspaper A has 1/2 a page to allot to them, they use the 1/2pg. filler version, if newspaper B only sold a 1-col ad for the astrology page, then they use the 5/6pg. filler version.

Let's face it ... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228027)

The majority of Americans have had their understanding of 'science' diluted and attacked so much, they will believe anything and don't have the slightest idea of what 'science' actually means.

America is allowing religious idiots to re-define science for their own purposes, and are going to great lengths to dumb down understanding of the world around you.

In a lot of ways, you're no different than places which had the Taliban -- a vocal minority opposed to knowledge and progress, and trying to impose religious beliefs on the real world.

You seem to think the fact that American has historically been on the leading of science and technology means that you'll stay there by your own inertia. You won't, and you're getting worse.

When you stop doing things like sex education, teach that Intelligent Design is a valid form of science, and generally insist on discrediting science for your own political ends ... you are going to end up with a society full of uneducated idiots who believe in fairy tales, and think that because you believe something it must be 'true'.

America is boldly leading the way towards a society which has a lot more ignorance and stupidity than it should, where America once boldly led the way forward where we all benefited.

Now you have people championing voluntary stupidity, and an increasingly romanticized belief in an economic system which never has existed (and never could exist) as promised.

In short, America is fucked, and on a downward trajectory, and embracing it as the chosen direction.

Re:Let's face it ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228185)

In a lot of ways, you're no different than places which had the Taliban -- a vocal minority opposed to knowledge and progress, and trying to impose religious beliefs on the real world.

But?! Wat aboot my freedumbs?!

Re:Let's face it ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228209)

Hmm. I want to moderate this comment simultaneously "insightful" and "flamebait".

Oh, well-- I guess AC doesn't need the karma anyway.

Mixup (4, Informative)

bickerdyke (670000) | about 7 months ago | (#46228051)

or it might be a simple mixup between astrology and astronomy.

Re:Mixup (4, Informative)

IRWolfie- (1148617) | about 7 months ago | (#46228175)

It is. This was tested in a eurobarometer by replacing "astrology" with "horoscopes" http://ec.europa.eu/public_opi... [europa.eu] . The percentage of support dropped from 41% to 13%, indicating that most people do indeed mix them up.

Re:Mixup (1)

genik76 (1193359) | about 7 months ago | (#46228399)

But likewise, if you would ask random people

1. Is astronomy scientific?
OR
2. Are celestial maps scientific?

I bet the latter questions would get significantly less positive answers.

& Unemployed young people wonder ... (1)

BoRegardless (721219) | about 7 months ago | (#46228053)

Why they can't get a job?

I don't believe in astrology (4, Funny)

Cro Magnon (467622) | about 7 months ago | (#46228055)

We Virgos are sceptical about such things.

Lame (2)

Triv (181010) | about 7 months ago | (#46228063)

For fuck's sake guys, there was so much more interesting information in that report and you went for the linkbait-iest piece of crap on the list. Have some fucking self respect. Check your sources. Be a goddamned editor. The rest of you: follow the link to the .pdf and read at least the Highlights of the report. It's fascinating.

Re:Lame (1)

lexa1979 (2020026) | about 7 months ago | (#46228309)

This is still Slashdot, even if there's a beta. We don't read TFA !!

Also (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228065)

Majority of Young Americans are in a state school.

Hello 1984.

Re:Also (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228161)

How has being in state school have anything to do with 1984?

Not Surprising (1)

windwalker13th (954412) | about 7 months ago | (#46228085)

When students are called upon to learn creationism in science class, we teach them that science does not need to be based on fact just belief. Why should students not make the logical analogy "evolution is to creationism as behavior psychology is to astrology" and that all are science. With politicians insisting that non-testable theories be taught as fact in science classes why should our students not assume that astrology is also a science?

Re:Not Surprising (1)

iggymanz (596061) | about 7 months ago | (#46228137)

you didn't read the article did you. you're wrong and jumping to conclusions. Furthermore most students in the USA are not taught creationism in school

Re:Not Surprising (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228141)

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh, wait. You were serious?

They're probably mixing up Astronomy and Astrology (1)

adric22 (413850) | about 7 months ago | (#46228131)

I hear people constantly get those two words mixed up. Obviously they sound similar, but have quite different meanings. I'd be surprised if that many people really believed astrology was a science.

Its a science (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228135)

Science has to be falsifiable. Scientol^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HAstrology perfectly fits the bill.

But more believe in evolution (1)

jbmartin6 (1232050) | about 7 months ago | (#46228151)

So we win some [scientificamerican.com] , we lose some

Majority of Young American Adults.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228153)

Can't tell the difference between astronomy and astrology and...
they can't spell neither of those two words.

Majority of Young American Adults Are Morons... (1)

nam37 (517083) | about 7 months ago | (#46228159)

Yup...

This is what happens.. (1)

CannedTurkey (920516) | about 7 months ago | (#46228187)

...when you allow people to believe in magic.

April Fool's Day... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228193)

OK, after reading the names Bill Nye & Ken Ham, I had to force myself to read on, reluctant to continue knowing the article was going to be crap. And it was.

This article does not identify the source or scope of the study, could be four randoms kids for all we know. And then the article continues to make all these far out assumptions based off of the study. OK, Horoscopes and Astrology is crap. I'd even wager half of American teens can't distinguish between Astrology and Astronomy. Cripes, half of adults cannot distinguish between the two.

It's just garbage article like this that get my knickers in a twist. Stop wasting time and money on junk like this.

Will South Carolina "teach this controversy"? (1)

mbone (558574) | about 7 months ago | (#46228199)

Will South Carolina now "teach the controversy" with astrology the way they say they say they want to do with creationism [slashdot.org] ?

No, of course not, as what they are really trying to do is promote their religion in public schools, and astrology is not part of their religion.

Science versus noise (1)

tomhath (637240) | about 7 months ago | (#46228217)

People are exposed to all kinds of "science" today: animal rights, anti-GMO, organic food, vegan diet, astrology, political science, economics...

What's science? Maybe all of the above, maybe none of the above.

Anti-nuclear, anti-GMO, anti-vax (1)

Applehu Akbar (2968043) | about 7 months ago | (#46228227)

The logical next step is astrology at the college level.

Hold `on`... (2)

LoRdTAW (99712) | about 7 months ago | (#46228235)

dammit `~My `keyboard is on` the fritz so` forgive random` quotes, apostrophes `and tildes. I tried to delete them but `the `backspace key also inserts them! Yay!

First ``they `say this:
"half of all Americans say astrology, the study of celestial bodies' purported influence on human behavior and worldly events, is either "very scientific" or "sort of scientific."
  `An`d `then` t`hey` say `this:
"By contrast, 92 percent of the Chinese public think horoscopes are a bunch of baloney."

So `they used` two `different `words which mean two `different things but used them in `a `comparison as if they were the `same` thing.`Great reporting!

My guess is astrology sounds very close to astronomy in both spelling and pronunciation` so it is leading to confusion. I` read throug`h t`he` report ``but `the `problem is `no` exact sample `question `was given and we don't know how the people were asked. It simply `states that "Since 1979, surveys have `asked `Americans whether they view astrology as being scientific." `I `guess it `must read something `like this: "Do `you think `astrology is` a `science?" with` a few check `boxes under it with "not `at all" "sort of" or "very `scientific".

I `bet if they replaced astrology with horoscopes then we would `see `a completely dif`ferent `dataset`.

come on... (1)

Fotis Georgatos (3006465) | about 7 months ago | (#46228257)

...they just meant "short off scientific"!!!

Literacy, Numeracy, Sciency (1)

RichMan (8097) | about 7 months ago | (#46228277)

a) literacy - some people may just see "study of the sky", they know about NASA and don't differentiate Astrology from Astronomy
b) Numeracy - basic education, if astrology is accurate and those are "lucky numbers" then why is the astrologist working for $50 a reading and not sitting pretty somewhere with the powerball jackpot.
c) Sciency - (a) and (b) and just general education.

d) all of the above. Education. See yesterdays story about not teaching evolution.

America the world is laughing at your middle ages ideology.

Be more concise. (1)

Pyramid (57001) | about 7 months ago | (#46228299)

Just say, "Study finds more people are stupid than before".

wonder if (1)

milkmage (795746) | about 7 months ago | (#46228301)

" nearly half of all Americans say astrology is either 'very' or 'sort of' scientific. " ... they're confusing astronomy?

i'll check for replies later, i have go to read my horoscope

Keep an open mind (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228327)

Carl Jung wrote a book called "Synchronicity", in which he proposed that things are interconnected in ways we don't see. As evidence he found astrologically notable angles between sun and moon natal positions in married couples. My point being that someone who truly values science as a tool needs to avoid using it as a dogma and keep an open mind. Too often people "believe" in science, then end up refuting competing beliefs with religious fervor.

Left of the curve (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about 7 months ago | (#46228333)

When you think of how stupid the average American is, you have to remember that half of them are even stupider than that.

Feudalism 2.0 (1)

rdelsambuco (552369) | about 7 months ago | (#46228335)

Redifine "science." Redifine "education." Redifine "justice." War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength. Let's just finally set the Enlightnemnet aside becasue feudalism will probably work better going forward, anyway.

It's the contrails! (1)

mark_reh (2015546) | about 7 months ago | (#46228349)

All this dosing with stupid-drugs from the sky is finally having the desired effect.

Get out you spray bottles of vinegar before it's too late!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... [youtube.com]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v... [youtube.com]

Seriously, politicians love stupid voters because they are easily manipulated. They cut taxes that fund schools, then try to get religion taught as science. Idiot Americans sit around watching "reality" TV and think they're actually seeing objective reality. What do you expect?

obummer (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228351)

Maybe the also think obbumer is the messiah...

Homonyms FTW? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46228353)

During this survey, was there a point made to explain the difference between Astronomy VS Astrology? I have to wonder if some folks didn't assume they meant Astronomy and answered accordingly.

I'd like to think people aren't as nutter as this study suggests.

I'm not surprised. (-1, Flamebait)

fullback (968784) | about 7 months ago | (#46228355)

Look at the number of Americans who believe a guy named Jesus was born to a virgin mother, turned water into wine and rose from the dead. Not much different than astrology, is it?

Well I've recently become more convinced (3, Funny)

RivenAleem (1590553) | about 7 months ago | (#46228365)

Every day you hear about more things they are spotting in space, with bigger more powerful horoscopes they can see more exoplanets and stars etc. Considering how much our Curiosity alone has Discovered about the surface of Mars, it's not surprising Astrology is gaining a lot of credibility.

Just to play devils advocate (1)

tom229 (1640685) | about 7 months ago | (#46228387)

Of course astrology can never be considered a strict science that can be tested with the scientific method. But I don't see why it couldn't be considered a social science. Social sciences are often a lot of "best guess" postulations about human societies and behaviors. Astrology could certainly fit into this field for some.

Astrology is a proto-science (3, Interesting)

mdsolar (1045926) | about 7 months ago | (#46228393)

Astrology used to keep astronomers fed. And, the observations that used to accompany astrology became the basis for astronomical advances. As a proto-science, astrology has appeared in Jungian archetypal motifs in psychology as well as sharing vocabulary with astronomy and planetary science. There are connections between astrology and these sciences just as there are between alchemy and both chemistry and nuclear physics or between herbalism and pharmacology.
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