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Mandrake 8.1 Beta1 (Raklet) Released

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the sitting-around-the-table-with-skewers dept.

Mandriva 245

keegnotrub writes: "Mandrake just dumped 8.1 Beta on their servers. Along with updated software (KDE 2.2, kernel 2.4.8, etc) they have reworked their control center to include many new features." Word to the wise: there are some reactions to this beta -- as well as a list of known bugs and fixes -- at mandrakeforum.com. What I'd like to know is if a Wacom Intuos USB tablet will work out-of-the-box on 8.1, since I just bought a refurbed one ;)

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245 comments

fp (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173802)

Natalie Portman and hot grits down pants forever!

check it out. there are no more f i rst posts. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173820)

yours is colorfully labeled: 2173802

i really like this part of the new slashdot.

Re:check it out. there are no more f i rst posts. (-1)

ubertroll (153053) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173825)

Can't you count for yourself? Need Slashdot's "#1" label to find out which post is first?

Re:check it out. there are no more f i rst posts. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173838)

sorted newest first and flat i do.

Re:check it out. there are no more f i rst posts. (-1)

ubertroll (153053) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173845)

Oh. So it's quite important everyone labels their First Posts correctly now, isn't it?

Re:fp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Pancake (458864) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173987)

nice first post

mandrake? what are you some sort of nancy boy? (-1, Troll)

cmdrsed (472978) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173803)

cool

Fuck you all (-1)

ubertroll (153053) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173804)

Well,

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Re:Fuck you all (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173914)

To be more precise, fuck the jews and niggers.

Re:Fuck you all (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2174026)

I don't think it's a good idea to fuck niggers. Nigger pussy should be avoided for the obvious reasons, and that it's stretched out due to the enormous size of nigger dick (I guess God flet sorry for making them like they are and had to make up for it somehow). Jew pussy is tight (due to the small size of Jew dick), and I admit some Jew women under the age of 28 do look good, but please avoid fucking them if you can; if they get pregnant, it will just increase the Jew population.

4th! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173810)

Forth PR0stering SKILLZ!

Big problem: DevFS (1, Flamebait)

bconway (63464) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173814)

Why are they using devfs? I'm not sure who was smoking crack on that one, but it's junk. It's never really worked, and it doesn't work with half of the drivers currently out there, so forget about it if you want to use things like ReiserFS or nVidia cards. Furthermore, you can't decide to not use it in the install, and switching back to dev afterwards is a major PITA.

Re:Big problem: DevFS (1)

Cyph (240321) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173832)

I'm running a devfs-enabled kernel, with ReiserFS compiled in, and most of my partitions running on ReiserFS. Also, I am running an nVidia GeForce2 card. Tell me, what is the problem with devfs again? :P

Re:Big problem: DevFS (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173842)

Cannot mount root fs is usually a problem in my book. So is the nvidia drivers not working with the latest kernel's devfs.

Re:Big problem: DevFS (5, Informative)

Liquid-Gecka (319494) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173851)

Remember, with devfs /dev/hdxx don't exist until the defsd program is run. Setting up linux to boot from /dev/hda1 will cause it to fail because /dev/hda1 doesn't exist. Also, you can download and run MAKEDEV without any problems to convert to non devfsd. I have yet to see a single device that doesn't work (Not that they are not out there mind you..) ReiserFS has no problems what so ever with devfs as long as you select the right partition (not /dev/hdxx!) its usually /dev/discs/disc0/part0 or something like that (I am at work so I can not verify). the /dev/hda1 link is acually created by the devfsd. =) Read the devfs how-to before starting and you usually have no problems whatsoever.

Re:Big problem: DevFS (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173863)

No, that's what I got with a Beta 1 install using ReiserFS, I wasn't trying to convert anything. Ext2 worked fine, but I don't use ext2.

Re:Big problem: DevFS (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173852)

hmmm

interesting

Re:Big problem: DevFS (1)

Phork (74706) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173926)

i use devfs, it works great, im using it with reiserfs root. In my opinoin, it is a lot easier to setup a machine with devfs than without. Wondering if linux sees your serial port, look in /dev/tts, did it see that new harddrive, /dev/discs. I have yet to encounter a single non-devfs compatable driver. The only problem i have ever had with devfs is sound apps not working correctly, and all that took was a few symlinks, which would have been made automatically if i used devfsd, but i dont, i think it works fine without it. And i dont think that there is any hassel in switching back, unless you dont know much about linux. But why would you want to switch back? its a non-issue.

Re:Big problem: DevFS (1)

mdw2 (122737) | more than 12 years ago | (#2174030)

not sure why you think those won't work

I'm using reiserfs

/dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1
reiserfs 4096380 2937028 1159352 72% /

and nvidia hardware

[mdw@umi: mdw]$ lspci | grep nVidia
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 (rev a1)

no problems with devfs here.

windows xp (3, Insightful)

ToWnSaVeR2 (471641) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173819)

ARGH!!!...if you check out the Mandrake site they have a link of their homepage showing how 8.1 is alot like windows XP. Is it a good thing that a Microsoft OS and a Linux OS have so much in common?

Re:windows xp (3, Insightful)

Johnny Starrock (227040) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173824)

Maybe that's not directed at Linux users, but instead at corperate types with purchasing power...

Windows Envy (0, Insightful)

ubertroll (153053) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173827)

Oh, all the Linux zealots really want to use Windows, but they can't without losing their face. So they do want a Linux that looks like Windows.

mandrake is a good transition dist. (1)

gimpboy (34912) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173828)

while you might not like it mandrake is really good for those unfortunate souls who want to move from windows over to linux. dont worry though. there are always other alternatives for those of us who dont particularly like the microsoft look.

see most people coming from windows are not ready for 'linux from scratch'. not everyone can be as elite as you and i :). the point: there are alot of alternatives. if you dont like this one, dont use it.

Re:windows xp (1)

term0r (471206) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173961)

It probably is a good thing to point out the similarities between Windows and Mandrake, as the market that Mandrake seems to aim at is the people that are new to linux and are looking for an easy migration to linux. Having a nice and friendly desktop, that is similar to Windows will make that migration a lot easier.

Re:windows xp (2)

WolfWithoutAClause (162946) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173968)

Superficially, having so much in common is probably a good thing.

The current useability ideal, is roughly 'do what the users expect'. Right now the users expect to shut down the system using the start button. So what do we have to give them?

Re:windows xp (2)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173979)

I liked the Mandrake 8.0 distro and install setup, although there were a few things that needed to be worked on.

I don't thing that the comparison to XP is going to win many friends in the unix/linux community. Although I can see it as a Marketing Ploy for truly new users.

I think that it would be better to stay true to the origin of the system. Maybe even say that it is "better"

Tough call

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yeaaaa (-1, Offtopic)

litheum (242650) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173821)

1273498134 post!!!

Keeps getting better... (3, Insightful)

Grim Grepper (452375) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173840)

Some people may not like Mandrake, for a variety of reasons, but I'm liking it more and more with every release. Many people may not like this, but I like having frequent beta releases to play around with.

Best of all, Mandrake truly does have a great setup procedure. For example, name one other distro in which you can easily setup ReiserFS, JFS, ext3, and ext2 filesystems during the installation. And afterwards, you have such tools as the Software Update utility, which is a decent way to keep up with security updates. And don't forget the custom user, printer, and other management utilities.

I know many people call Mandrake a newbie distro, but who said that having an easy to use distro is a bad thing? Plus, even though it's "easy to use", I can still setup and configure it however I want. Mandrake seems to be getting better and better, and I wouldn't be suprised to see it take over as the Desktop distro for both newbies and experts alike.

Re:Keeps getting better... (4, Insightful)

gengee (124713) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173905)

I second that. Mandrake pushes the bar with every new release. Things like LDAP Authentication support right in the install, journaling filesystems as you mentioned, devfs (Something we all /need/ to start using) etc. It certainly does have a 'newbieish' feel to it, but it is also quite capable as a server.

Mandrake has it's fair share of problems. Poor (IMO) packages, testing cycles that are far too short, etc. But they certainly aren't afraid of adding new features.

I'm not certain I like the 'Configure everthing in the instal' approach they take, but I am sure it's helpful for all new Linux users.

Re:Keeps getting better... (0, Troll)

Phork (74706) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173955)

FIrst, i havent seen a distro in several years that you cannot setup an ext2 partition in the installer.

debian has all the faetures you mentioned(but they are targted to more advanced users).

a few days ago installed debian on my laptop with devfs and reiserfs root, and an ext2 /home(so i can share it with freebsd). now all admit it was not all point and click, I didnt use the standard debian install disks, i used the reiserfs install discs. And then i put a custom kernel on the disk, and a newer version of mkreiserfs on a seperate floppy, but if i had chosen, i could have worked off the regular reiserfs install floppys.

Debian has a software update utility, being aslashdot reader, im sure you have heard of it, apt-get. And debian does have custom managment utilitys, there called bash and emacs.

if i wanted gui configuration utilitys, and other things to hide the details from me, i would proably use mandrake, but i like editing config files, i like knowing exactly what is happening on my system. Thats why i use debian.

Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (1, Troll)

Flabdabb Hubbard (264583) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173841)

From an 'open source' perspective. Debian is the only GNU/Linux distro that adheres to RMS's definition of 'open source'. While Mandrake, and Redhat (based on Mandrake) are not open source, but are the more restrictive 'free software' as defined by Eric Raymond and Bruse Perens 'Open Software Definition'.

If you believe in freedom, you are better off going the debian route, since that way you are ensured that your distro is 100% Open Source, whereas with mandrake, it is all 'free software', but some of it may be released under the highly restrictive BSD license which RMS has criticised in the past, since it allows huge corporations such as Microsoft to profit at the expense of open source developers.

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173868)

Well, it was an okay effort at trolling, but you stepped over the believability line with the phrase "highly restrictive BSD license." This should be a good test to see whether or not Slashdotters have gotten smarter over the years, or if they end up biting anyway. And if they bite after reading *my* post, they're worse off than I thought!

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (0, Troll)

Flabdabb Hubbard (264583) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173878)

Not a troll at all. The BSD license forces you to make your code available to all and sundry. The GPL and LGPL are less restrictive, since they allow you to remain free of commercial exploitation. Also, the BSD license is viral, and has a worm-like nature.


Had I been trolling, I would have said something like "linux sux my w2k box has been up for 1 year rock solid"

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (1)

JanneM (7445) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173900)

I might (and probably am) be very wrong about this, but doesn't the BSD license alllow you to relicence the code as GPL? What I mean is, if I take a piece of BSD licenced code and incorporate into my program, I am allowed to distribute the program under the GPL, right?

The whole point of BSD is that you are allowed to relicence the code in any way you want, as I've understood it. So, there's no way that BSD licenced code could be more restricitve than GPL, as anybody could take BSD code and just relicence as GPL...

/Janne

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173990)

Stop responding to an obvious troll dammit!!!

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (2)

be-fan (61476) | more than 12 years ago | (#2174029)

I think you don't seem to understand the definition of a "restriction." The GPL might lead to freer code, but it does that by being more restrictive than the BSD license. Take a different example. As an employer, you can discriminate against people when hiring. This is more restrictive, but also leads to a freer society.

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (1)

jmcneill (256391) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173879)

but some of it may be released under the highly restrictive BSD license

Please explain to me how a license that allows you to do more things with the code can be "highly restrictive" in comparison with the GPL. Thanks.

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (1, Flamebait)

Flabdabb Hubbard (264583) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173891)

Well, the BSD licence forces you to release your code to the likes of microsoft who can take it, and use it for whatever they like, without merging the changes back. Which means that Microsoft could 'co-opt' code written under BSD license without giving anything back to the community. Suppose they took an implementation of protocol that was popular say the bsd tcp/ip stack and added MS extentions. Hey presto they have used your BSD code to screw you over and you have no more control!!!


Can you see now how the BSD license is restrictive ?

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Pancake (458864) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173964)

so you're saying MacOS X is a bad thing?

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2174013)

Hes saying the BSD licence is a bad thing

der !

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (2)

be-fan (61476) | more than 12 years ago | (#2174024)

Well, the BSD licence forces you to release your code to the likes of microsoft who can take it, and use it for whatever they like, without merging the changes back.
>>>>>>>>>
Umm, if you license something under the BSD license, you implicitly OK that usage. Some people don't care if their code gets used in a closed commercial system, if it makes that system better for users. Are you saying that that's bad?

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (3, Interesting)

breser (16790) | more than 12 years ago | (#2174028)

That's the developers decision. The vast majority of people who use Mandrake aren't developers. They have no intention of making any code modifications. Probably never will look at source.

Freedom is about letting developers decide how they want to license their works in a way in which everyone can use them. And if developers don't care if someone like Microsoft uses their work without compensation, then let them.

Keeping their work from the world is merely because you as a developer wouldn't want to give up that right is silly. I can understand you not wanting to work on that code. But nobody is forcing you to make any changes.

So frankly this whole BSD license is bad has nothing to do with freedom but everything with RMS not liking anything he didn't invent.

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (2)

sharkey (16670) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173992)

You could tell us how Red Hat is based on Mandrake, as well.

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173890)

Also on this note, if you want a Gimp package that includes support for .gif files, you should stick with Mandrake, as Debian won't include it. They're also in the process of removing XMMS, which plays .mp3 files, a proprietary music format.

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (1)

Flabdabb Hubbard (264583) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173909)

This is a good thing IMO. I support open source software. If I want Bruce Perens style 'free software' I would use Redhat. But I don't.


I'm not a zealot, I just think the BSD license is the wrong way for 'open source' supporters to go. It should be GPL all the way.

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (0, Offtopic)

Cryptnotic (154382) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173976)

I like how this comment is moderated "Funny". Someone has a good sense of humor. :-)


Cryptnotic

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (1)

efgbr (470166) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173995)

Wrong.

The reason Red Hat and Mandrake aren't 100% open source or free software is because they include non-free, non-open-source code. The Netscape 4 web browser is an example.

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (2)

breser (16790) | more than 12 years ago | (#2174038)

Netscape is in the process of being removed from Mandrake. For example Mandrake PPC no longer has Netscape. Besides rpm -e if you don't like it.

Re:Mandrake is cool, but surely Debian is better. (2, Insightful)

jonestor (443666) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173996)

Hey, I thought Mandrake was based on Red Hat.

maybe later (1)

the_rev_matt (239420) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173844)

While I like Mandrake as a newbie distro, I was not terribly pleased w/ 8.0. No hot swap USB is a major deal breaker for me, as I use a USB KVM (gotta get the iMac in there). I was intrigued to see Mandrake PPC listed on their site, however, and will be giving that a try Real Soon Now.


They note all the improvements of 8.1beta1 over 8.0, but none of it seems particularly compelling. The latest versions of X, Y, and Z are de riguer at this point, and can be added to your existing install painlessly anyway. The improvements to their management tools are incremental (yes, I know it's a . release). I'll probably grab it when it's final just to see the new mgmt tools but my system (running Krud) has the latest Gnome/Evolution/Gimp/Gphoto/etc etc etc already so it's going to go on the guinea pig box basically to see if I should install it on my wife's computer. [tummy.com]

Re:maybe later (1)

X-Dopple (213116) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173913)

I tried installing Mandrake 8.0 on my machine, and the results were spectacular. The installer did NOT like my machine one bit. Never a dull moment when the installer decided to tell me to go to hell by segfaulting and hanging about a third of a way through the installation.

The installer crashed because I had not provided any keyboard input at the "Networking" section". I tried text-only, lores, etc. etc. No dice. Removing memory helped somewhat but it wasn't enough to get me through the installer.

When I finally did get it installed, it turned out that the RPM database had been magically corrupted. Fsck also decided to run for no reason at all.

One wacky system, indeed.

Ahh yes (-1, Offtopic)

cmdrsed (472978) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173857)

Granted, the only cool posts to get now a days will be those containing 31337 such as:

#2131337
#2231337

Re:Ahh yes (-1)

ubertroll (153053) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173861)

Easy. Make another 60000 posts, and you're there.

m2 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173858)

I am part of the bottom 90% of users, so why does it say I can't metamoderate?

tmohsttehfsp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173865)

Two million one hundred seventy three thousand eight hundred fourty sixth post! Looks like Slashcode 2.2 still has some bugs...

Re:tmohsttehfsp (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173875)

damn, I only got the two million one hundred seventy three thousand eight hundred sixty fifth post... :(

on the topic of mandrake... (1)

crazney (194622) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173869)

anyone know how i could get hold of the supermount patch they use? the official supermount [geocities.com] patch broke with 2.4.4 and hasnt worked since - im using 2.4.9.

Re:on the topic of mandrake... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173896)

Sounds like real trouble. You're going to need plenty of legal advice before this thing is over.
As your attorney, I advise you to rent a very fast car with no top. And you'll need the cocaine.
Tape recorder for special music. Acapulco shirts. Get the hell out of LA for at least 48 hours.

mandrake reputation (1)

quannump (310933) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173906)

it seems like mandrake would like the reputation of being the most up to date distro. The release coincides with the release of KDE 2.2 very nicely. Some may not care for mandrake, but people on the linux for the desktop front should see this as good support for windows users looking to jump ship.

Mmmm Fresh Release... (3, Interesting)

lifebouy (115193) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173907)

New Mandrake releases are like nose-candy for newbies. I've been hooked for a while now. I love Slack, and Debian is where its at. But I still love to get my hands on the latest ML releases just to see what new things they put in the distro. But it makes ya lazy, everything(generally) works right out of the box.(Some might consider that a feature;) Mandrake Forum seems to be turning into a little community. Kudos particularly to Deno for that site. There's lots of nuggets to ferret out of that site if you have problems.

Buy American, not French (0, Flamebait)

The Ultimate Badass (450974) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173916)

You seem to be overlooking one important problem with this distro: It's French! I know the buy American ethos is losing it's charm for many. I don't think it is safe for the open source community to encourage this. Right now, USA dominates the open source world, but for how long, with distros like SuSE and Mandrake cutting into Redhat's market share?

When Redhat goes under, and all open source development moves offshore, you will only have yourselves to blame, just as we Americans have only ourselves to blame for the tragic failure of our auto industry. Do you really want to put the French in a position to declare French the official language of open source development? I certainly don't, but it looks to me that their greatest competitor might soon be German, instead of English, the language which made free software possible.

I urge all linux users to avoid MAndrake and SuSE distributions. They rob US open source business of vital funds, and will inevitably lead to the collapse of more and more linux businesses.

Re:Buy American, not French (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173982)

And I say (as an Australian) - buy French :)

It seems like only a few years ago we were at odds with that country for testing nukes near our beaches....well they stopped :)

Re:Buy American, not French (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173997)

$10 says somebody is stupid enough to post a serious rebuttal to this.

Re:Buy American, not French (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2174036)

"$10 says somebody is stupid enough to post a serious rebuttal to this."



Okay, I rebut you. Oh, wait. This isn't the "this" you were referring to. Damn.

I like Mandrake but (2, Informative)

CptnKirk (109622) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173922)

their migration path has been less than perfect for me in the past. In short when I upgraded to 8.0 there were many problems with KDE related to a previous KDE 2.1 install. There were strange glibc problems which caused crashes in bitkeeper and other programs. Their installer had problems figuring out which programs to "upgrade" as well.

My solution to these problems was to wipe and reinstall. Most settings were stored in my home dir which I did not wipe and the rest of the programs were upgraded as a side effect. My RiserFS partitions were uneffected and when I was finished the strage problems I had went away.

I enjoy my Mandrake dist. but I'd caution those who are looking to "upgrade" via their installer.

Hey, where'd all the posts go? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173928)

I think this is a bug.

didnt they go bankrupt a while ago? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173929)

or maybe it was some other distro

FP (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173931)

FP

where oh where (-1, Offtopic)

Fishstick (150821) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173932)

...have all the comments gone?

first pr0st (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Pancake (458864) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173935)

I like salad

Is slashdot running mandrake? (-1, Offtopic)

sticks_us (150624) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173938)

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OK

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Please contact the server administrator, pater@slashdot.org and inform them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done that may have caused the error.

More information about this error may be available in the server error log.

Ask Slashdot (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173940)

What is the coolest sexual fetish?

F i r s t P o s t s (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2174039)

make me horny.

Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!
Reason: What do you want? A medal?
No, a reason is unnecessary. Having trolltalk back would be nice though. And for future reference, putting spaces between the letters seems to get by that little regex in the filter.

Criminal Russian programmers (-1)

ubertroll (153053) | more than 12 years ago | (#2174043)

Dmitry Sklyarov makes me horny. Whenever I look at this picture [eff.org] , I have to jerk off immediately.

it really...Raklet (1)

Irie (21539) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173941)

from the article... now it is your turn to make it become Good and Wonderful Release(TM), namely Mandrake Linux 8.1(Raklet).
spelling taco :P

first real post ??

Problem? (2, Interesting)

tankrshr77 (170422) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173942)

Mandrake is into making polished linux distro's for Newbie users.
Mandrake releases buggy beta versions on their website.
Newbie uses download beta version and have major problems, and get mad at mandrake.
Bad descision guys.

Re:Problem? (1)

phutureboy (70690) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173993)

Ah, the final release versions are buggy as well. I've been running the 'drake since 6.0, and have found every release to have its own quirks and broken features.

For example, 7.2 would shut down, but never report that it was done shutting down, so I had to guess when it was done before powering off. 8.0's Software Manager doesn't retrieve and install dependencies the way it says it's supposed to, and even though my USB wheel trackball was configured successfully during the install, it didn't work once I rebooted. Had to do some investigative work to fix that one.

I really wish they would put the final releases through more rigorous testing. Mandrake is definitely a very cool distro, but it's not yet as polished and reliable as Windows. I still recommend it though.

Re:Problem? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2174020)

Oh god, a buggy BETA version.

I shiver in horror.

Scott.

Number one ?! (1)

ImaLamer (260199) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173944)

I'm glad to see a new version of MDK so soon. I've a lot of problems since going to 8.0 from 7.2

I lost full video card support, couldn't update the kernel without killing the machine, and worse than all... my favorite xscreensavers wouldn't work.

I'm looking forward to this huge download, mostly because I would like to see the new 'Control Center'. Every other distro I've used never had a tool that worked so well.

I hope the software update is 100% working though...

This is whats fun about mandrake (1)

LennyDotCom (26658) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173945)

They seem to always include the latest releases in there releases I seem to have more problems with mandrake then other disros but it's fun being on the bleeding edge

fp? (-1, Redundant)

Franklin_the_turtule (468269) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173946)

nice, nice, red hat better, i just writes this to have tha chance of fp (i home i won't be 14# or something like that...)

lp (-1, Offtopic)

Franklin_the_turtule (468269) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173967)

banjo sucks!!!

Whats the deal with stuff? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173948)

Hello, whats the deal with stuff and the sucking of it?

Sweet.... (1)

Linegod (9952) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173951)

Good thing I got it before the mirrors where /.'d. With the 'few' problems with the Beta, you might be better off with Cooker [linux-mandrake.com] ....

Sucker (-1)

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sissies (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173958)

Mandrake is a sissie distro for wannabes and bandwagon jumpers. You ain't a real Linux user if you use Mandrake.

Re:sissies (-1)

ubertroll (153053) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173965)

You ain't a real Linux user if you use Mandrake.

Is that a bad thing?

Where the KDE versions os Drake Tools? (2, Insightful)

Karma Sucks (127136) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173972)

Why hasn't Mandrake yet provided KDE versions of the Drake tools? Am I the only one who strongly feels the need for this? As a paying customer I feel it frustrating that I am not being heard. Mandrake, are you listening? Please port those tools to KDE and give your users a choice!

Re:Where the KDE versions os Drake Tools? (2)

nathanm (12287) | more than 12 years ago | (#2174006)

Why hasn't Mandrake yet provided KDE versions of the Drake tools? Am I the only one who strongly feels the need for this? As a paying customer I feel it frustrating that I am not being heard. Mandrake, are you listening? Please port those tools to KDE and give your users a choice!
You do have a choice! Just download the source and port it yourself. They're GPLed software, so you can make any changes you want & distribute them.

If you don't have the skills to do it yourself, pay someone that does. Whining doesn't accomplish anything.

Re:Where the KDE versions os Drake Tools? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2174034)

No QT license, limiting future options.

Most of it is done in perl...

A Windows Desktop Replacement! (Really) (3, Funny)

zulux (112259) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173973)


Once the few bugs get worked out - The whole Mandrake 8.1 sytem is really a Windows desktop replacement. I'm really excited to wipe out a secratary's Windows computer, replace it with Mandrake and watch what happens. My hunch is, after explaining to her that the Start button is now a "K" - and MS.Word is now called KWord, then she will turn to me and say "OK." And proceed to work as if nothing has happened. After a few hours , I bet she'll say :


"Wow, this new version of Windows sure has a lot of cool card games, Thanks!"

KWord? Haha! (-1)

ubertroll (153053) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173985)

Still can't do real tables, wow, a real replacement for Word, really. Welcome back to the 80's.

Re:KWord? Haha! (1)

zulux (112259) | more than 12 years ago | (#2174045)

I'll respong to the lack of robust table support in KWord:



For the vast majority of secratary-produced documents, tabs and tab stops are easier to use and easier to teach. I don't want them spending hours noodling with table setting and grid lines. I want them to get the damn document out the door.


If one needs documents of a lenghty nature - MS Word is not the answer. LaTeX is. You can have the secrataries enter the text, and have professionals do the layout.

wm2 0wn5 j00 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173978)

copenhagen is better than skoal.

Too Many Connections (Poorly made packages) (3, Interesting)

gengee (124713) | more than 12 years ago | (#2173981)

I suspect MandrakeForum is using the Mandrake PostgreSQL RPMs. They're built with a (default) 32 connection limit.

Warning: Too many connections in /home/www/mandrakeforum.com/html/mainfile.php on line 24
Unable to select database

linux mandrake (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2173983)

what it is is bad grammar

PHP Nuke ~ banjo (-1, Offtopic)

ImaLamer (260199) | more than 12 years ago | (#2174000)

I'm glad to see they don't use 'Banjo" on the MDK forums.

Mandrake... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2174005)

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