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Why Your Online Impersonation of a 16-year Old Girl Won't Last Long

timothy posted about 6 months ago | from the because-soon-enough-you'll-be-17-anyhow dept.

Software 137

An anonymous reader writes "Can computers pick up your age and gender from your tweets? If you want to give it a try, here's your chance: 'To develop your software for age and gender identification, we provide you with a training data set that consists of blog posts, Twitter tweets, social media texts, as well as hotel reviews.' Well, at least my paid Amazon reviews are safe for the time being..."

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assuming too much (5, Interesting)

roman_mir (125474) | about 6 months ago | (#46300103)

I am sure you can pick up on general mood of a person, I am sure you can pick up various clues, but if somebody is set on hiding themselves by providing false information, I don't think you'll be able to identify them without what NSA calls 'meta data', as in pattern of your behaviour. I don't think it will be possible to do a better job than guessing at about 50/50 chance ratio about a person's age and gender if the person in question is actively trying to portray something he or she is not in a single conversation. From a pattern of behaviour? Yes. From a single conversation? ... this assumes too much about people. It assumes that 16 y.o. girls are also not pretending to be something they are not as well...

Re:assuming too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300121)

like totally bieberiffic!

Re:assuming too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300311)

Gag me with a spoon!

Re:assuming too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300901)

Spoon me with a gag ;)

Re:assuming too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46301505)

A/S/L?

Re:assuming too much (-1, Flamebait)

TWX (665546) | about 6 months ago | (#46300647)

like totally bieberiffic!

Indeed, I expect that should a learning-capable system monitor the posted text from actual teenage females, it should be able to identify aberrations, especially if that system manages to derive proper nouns and verbs. There will certainly be regional variation, variation based on ones' interests, and variation based on maturity, but with a large enough sample size it should be possible to figure out what is average/normal and what is an outlier.

If the same system was also monitoring groups that are not teenage females, it would learn what that group uses for vernacular and over time could track the migration of speech from high school into adulthood and be able to figure out when someone uses too many previous-generation words or expressions and not enough current-generation words or expressions, to then analyze their postings further. Some precocious teenagers will speak like adults, and probably get false-positive tagged, but it's unlikely that adults could pull it off the reverse correctly for any significant length of time. Even those that work around teenagers in schools or elsewhere will most likely fall out of formal speech into their own youth slang, not current youth slang.

metadata (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300803)

screw the text content

timestamp, frequency and timing in general will give away much more information

Re:metadata (1)

TWX (665546) | about 6 months ago | (#46301343)

You mean, because all of the texts will be sent in several eight-minute windows separated by 52 minute gaps?

Re: assuming too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46301051)

I'm a girl btw. Don't assume we all like that guy. I understand a lot more than you think. We are smart and have the power of popular opinion.

Re: assuming too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46301673)

But I bet you do like: austin Mahone
One direction
A random punk artist that others on /. are clueless about.
Only authors can replicate the patterns of another person other than them. Its how literature is created. All that guy is doing is looking for a marketing window. He is guaranteed that his ideas won't work because those who want to make sure it doesn't will have all his info.

Re: assuming too much (5, Funny)

lucm (889690) | about 6 months ago | (#46301927)

Gotcha, you're a dude. Girls never use "btw": they use "fyi" with a whiny, self-righteous sarcastic undertone.

Thinking of that, this applies to flamboyant gay males as well.

So you are either an overweight straight guy in his early 30s or a Perl script written by an overweight straight guy in his early 30s.

Re:assuming too much (1)

rasmusbr (2186518) | about 6 months ago | (#46300235)

Men v.s. women ought to be fairly simple as long as we're dealing with untrained writers. Women use social words like pronouns and verbs about people more often than men. Women are also, arguably, slightly better writers than men on average because they make more of an effort in primary school.

Re:assuming too much (1)

AnttiV (1805624) | about 6 months ago | (#46300323)

This is generally true (probably, I haven't done any scientific testing) and because of that any analysts and/or analytic program assume as much - which is why almost 95% of the time those instances define me as a female based on social behaviour in games/chats and texts that I write (stories, etc).

So while it is fairly simple to do it that way, it is also assuming too much as people are rarely, if ever, so one-sided that any clinical analysis could determine their age or sex short of looking into their pants. (which doesn't always work either, so what the heck :)

Re:assuming too much (1)

Nutria (679911) | about 6 months ago | (#46300651)

which is why almost 95% of the time those instances define me as a female

Well, 5% of men like what women like, so that shouldn't be terribly surprising.

My wife (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46301211)

> This is generally true (probably, I haven't done any scientific testing)

You remind me of my wife, and this kind of "logic" is why women are arguably slightly worse writers.

If you think that is nonsense, than the whole original sexist line of argument is as well.

Re:My wife (1)

The Grim Reefer (1162755) | about 6 months ago | (#46301369)

You remind me of my wife, and this kind of "logic" is why women are arguably slightly worse writers.

If you think that is nonsense, than the whole original sexist line of argument is as well.

So what's your excuse?

Re:assuming too much (2)

Sique (173459) | about 6 months ago | (#46300331)

Women are also, arguably, slightly better writers than men on average because they make more of an effort in primary school.

... which just means that an slightly above average man can impersonate an average woman.

Re:assuming too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300407)

Nonsense. Men don't have to act a certain way, and neither do women.

Re:assuming too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300457)

Men don't have to act a certain way, and neither do women.

ZOMG PONIES!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111eleven

Re:assuming too much (2)

thunderclap (972782) | about 6 months ago | (#46301675)

If I had mod points I would mod that funny because: I get it. Also there is actually a group of grown adult men who love MLPFIM (my little pony: friendship is magic)
Google bronies if you are curious.

Re:assuming too much (1)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about 6 months ago | (#46302625)

Also there is actually a group of grown adult men who love MLPFIM (my little pony: friendship is magic)

That is entirely, 100% true.

Google bronies if you are curious.

Or just wait for more of us to come out of the woodwork here.

Re:assuming too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300461)

He didn't say they have to, only that they do.

Re:assuming too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46302163)

Nonsense. Men don't have to act a certain way, and neither do women.

True. But if you don't, you will be made to pay for your devil worship.

Sadly, truth just doesn't matter. What matters is who is alive and who is not.

Re:assuming too much (1)

rasmusbr (2186518) | about 6 months ago | (#46302253)

Nonsense. Men don't have to act a certain way, and neither do women.

That's true, of course. Men could all grow their hair long and women could all cut theirs short, but in reality it's the other way around in many cultures.

Studies about differences between men and women are just that - studies about differences. They usually don't find the mechanisms that cause the differences.

Re:assuming too much (2)

allcoolnameswheretak (1102727) | about 6 months ago | (#46302551)

Really? Look up any live performance of a boy band on YouTube and then show me the equivalent with gender-reversal.

Except Japan doesn't count. Japanese are aliens.

Re:assuming too much (2)

geekoid (135745) | about 6 months ago | (#46300559)

What a pile of crap.

Re:assuming too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300945)

What a pile of crap.

What? A Congressman? Where?

Re:assuming too much (1)

thunderclap (972782) | about 6 months ago | (#46301683)

What a pile of crap.

What? A Congressman? Where?

In Washington, where else?

Re:assuming too much (1)

slugstone (307678) | about 6 months ago | (#46302247)

Hey they are women in this state. Try the other Washington DC/Mordor.

Re:assuming too much (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46302157)

all you have to do is be honest.

you will not match any known patterns of any age group or gender in the history of the universe.

the NSA will be dumbfounded. having never been honest themselves, they won't believe that you aren't being paid be the Russians.

they will destroy you of course. honesty and national security are just not compatible.

Re:assuming too much (3, Interesting)

canadiannomad (1745008) | about 6 months ago | (#46302269)

Even if someone got a program that was "pretty good" at figuring out age and gender, I strongly doubt they could make it accurate enough not to be a huge civil liberties problem.
IF someone were to make a program that was 99% accurate, that would still be some 3million 16 year old girls in the US getting their houses raided in case they are a perv. (ok they aren't likely to raid on evidence like that alone, but they might use it as probable cause to 'dig deeper' into who she is... and if she caused the false flag then she is likely an outlier who the gov't wants to know more about anyway, for retraining... I'll go don my tinfoil hat now.)

If you want to read a summary that makes sense (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300137)

here's your chance to write one.

Re:If you want to read a summary that makes sense (1)

infinitelink (963279) | about 6 months ago | (#46301183)

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Shady competition seeking to pay pittance for million+ Euro development, read all about it!

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Re:If you want to read a summary that makes sense (1)

pitchpipe (708843) | about 6 months ago | (#46302071)

On the classic slashdot site the summary made sense!

Nah, I'm kidding: even there it was gibberish.

Wow, what a great racket (4, Insightful)

EmagGeek (574360) | about 6 months ago | (#46300141)

I wish I could shell out 300 euro to have my next million-euro commercial product crowdsourced

Re:Wow, what a great racket (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300245)

This is the first thing that went to my mind.
Please develop our product for us for next to nothing.

Re:Wow, what a great racket (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300325)

You don't give source code.
and the note : By submitting your software you retain full copyrights. You agree to grant us usage rights only for the purpose of the PAN competition. We agree not to share your software with a third party or use it for other purposes than the PAN competition.

Now that doesn't mean they won't use it. But it is easy to get it to call home if the date on the machine is 6 months later, or start some other more subtle problems. reverse the sexes, give data directly from the randomiser. Whatever you feel like.

If they are using it for anything else, you can have them.

Seriously why doesn't NSA pay for this instead? (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | about 6 months ago | (#46300177)

Why do we have to help them train the replacement twitter scanners after the EU is trying to cut off their direct pipeline?

The FBI is screwed! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300179)

How are they going to catch pedophiles now?

Re:The FBI is screwed! (2)

Garridan (597129) | about 6 months ago | (#46300447)

Hire and train real 13 year-old girls to seduce 'predators' online and lure them into an IRL meeting. Duh.

Re:The FBI is screwed! (1)

allo (1728082) | about 6 months ago | (#46302653)

I guess its the same problem. A girl hired for such a trap WILL behave other than a normal girl. maybe its not even recognized by the software then.

This is a software contest (5, Informative)

mbone (558574) | about 6 months ago | (#46300187)

For those puzzled by the description here, this is a software contest, with a 300 Euro prize :

An award of 300 euros for the best performing approach to author profiling (age and gender identification) is sponsored by Atribus (Corex).

Re:This is a software contest (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300329)

What they forget to mention is that if your program also identifies ethnicity, you will be fined for racism.

But sexism is totally okay? (1)

dutchwhizzman (817898) | about 6 months ago | (#46301935)

Really, these people need their dick sizes predicted by comments on SlashDot. Maybe then they'd understand that any form of profiling is equally bad, regardless of what you profile on.

Tired of Slashdot? Come to comp.misc on Usenet! (2, Interesting)

RocketRabbit (830691) | about 6 months ago | (#46300197)

When a blatant attempt to plug a link such as this submission pisses you off, you have a choice. You can stick around and continue to be fed drivel, or you can come (back?) to Usenet where the air is clean. Eternal September is a good reliable free Usenet server, and comp.misc is the new official Slashdot replacement,

Re:Tired of Slashdot? Come to comp.misc on Usenet! (1)

thunderclap (972782) | about 6 months ago | (#46301695)

Honestly no one uses usenet anymore for anything but porn and piracy.

yay (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300207)

Great, this is another scale of misleading headline.

Headline (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300209)

>Why Your Online Impersonation of a 16-year Old Girl Won't Last Long

This is one of those posts where I have to read the summary, isn't it.

Re:Headline (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46301575)

>Why Your Online Impersonation of a 16-year Old Girl Won't Last Long

This is one of those posts where I have to read the summary, isn't it.

No, the summary isn't any better.

A Win For Pedophiles (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300211)

Now they'll know if they're talking to a real child or a cop. Yay !

Why is /. trying to impersonate a 16 yo girl? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300233)

Shouldn't that be the question?

Re: Why is /. trying to impersonate a 16 yo girl? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300535)

Omg ponies, indeed.

Re:Why is /. trying to impersonate a 16 yo girl? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300687)

TIMOTHY!!!!

hi i'm chris hansen (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 6 months ago | (#46300247)

So you like to chat with 16 year old girls on line?

Did the show use 16-year-old girls? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300443)

Cause in many states, they're legal. That is, so long as you don't photograph or record the fun, and/or offer booze, drugs, money, a job, education, a sense of hope or self esteem.

Broken Slashadvert Yet again (3, Insightful)

Dan Askme (2895283) | about 6 months ago | (#46300265)

I'am sick of descriptions and subjects written in gibberish. Reminds me of spam emails.

Do you have a big cock, how big can your cock get?
Win £xxx pounds if your cock can be bigger than their cock.
Is your cock hidden? can people see your cock? CLICK HERE NOW!

How the fuck did this get authed? Not only is it the worst subject and description i've seen in a while, its an insult to the readers here. Seriously we are here for a reason, we dont have an attention span of a fish.
Oh yeah thats right, its a Slashadvert supplied by Corex.

No offence, but if this shit carries on, i may as well start reading my spam emails. Target your audience, not Facebook muppets ffs.

Re:Broken Slashadvert Yet again (1)

thunderclap (972782) | about 6 months ago | (#46301715)

I'am sick of descriptions and subjects written in gibberish. Reminds me of spam emails.

Do you have a big cock, how big can your cock get?
Win £xxx pounds if your cock can be bigger than their cock.
Is your cock hidden? can people see your cock? CLICK HERE NOW!

How the fuck did this get authed? Not only is it the worst subject and description I've seen in a while, its an insult to the readers here. Seriously we are here for a reason, we don't have an attention span of a fish.
Oh yeah thats right, its a Slashadvert supplied by Corex.

No offense, but if this shit carries on, i may as well start reading my spam emails. Target your audience, not Facebook muppets ffs.

For the record, my rooster is the biggest in the entire state. However, when I post pictures of it people get deeply offended. They sware I stroked by rooster so it stands taller and more robust. Hey, how else are you to get fresh eggs from your hens but by having the most spirited rooster. So Thats what I always send those spam emails. Never won any prizes though. As for the topic, Twitter will reveal all you really need to act like a teen if you follow enough of them.

*points algorithm at 4chan* (1)

Guppy (12314) | about 6 months ago | (#46300289)

Researcher A: This... This c-can't be right!

Researcher B: What's not right?

Researcher A: Apparently, 4chan really is populated by little girls.

Researcher C: *posting anonymously on /a/* See guys, I told you -- wearing a skirt makes it work. Also, Check'Em.

Re:*points algorithm at 4chan* (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300561)

I knew it!

For one thing, the only person I know IRL that wears a fedora and watches MLP is a 9-year-old girl.

Re:*points algorithm at 4chan* (1)

thunderclap (972782) | about 6 months ago | (#46301719)

what I want to know is why is your 9 yr old wearing a fedora?

Re:*points algorithm at 4chan* (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46301807)

She's my cousin and while I also want to know, I'm not sure if I should ask. She didn't start wearing it that long ago and I can't help but wonder if it'll just go away if no one makes a big deal of it. There really are such situations. I don't even know where she got it.

She's intelligent, plays soccer, plays the violin, is outgoing, etc. So I'm not going to make a big deal over a hat.

Wow (1)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 6 months ago | (#46300455)

According to the research, 83% of slashdot posters are 16yr old girls. Go figure.

Re:Wow (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46301743)

According to the research, 83% of slashdot posters are 16yr old girls. Go figure.

Well that explains Slashdot beta doesn't it.

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46302003)

12% are 10yo boys and the rest are aliens.

this will only make it EASIER to impersonate (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300531)

Once you have a program that can accurately classify the age/gender of a given text, anyone can impersonate that age/gender! Here's how it works:

/* pseudocode */
function impersonate (targetClass, sourceText) {
  var text = sourceText;
  while (compare(classify(text), targetClass) < THRESHOLD)
    text = randomlyModify(sourceText);
  return text; /* successful impersonation */
}

Yeah, it could take a while if you just randomly flip bits in randomlyModify(), but it will eventually work. In a real-world scenario, someone would probably create a translation program. We already know that real-time translation devices exist (the US military used them in the early 2000s in Iraq and Afghanistan to translate the voice of a US soldier's into the native language of the area), so there's no reason to think it wouldn't work to translate 40-yr-old-male-trucker to 16-yr-old-girl, except it would be easier because it would be parsing text instead of voice.

What about the following sites? (3, Interesting)

knorthern knight (513660) | about 6 months ago | (#46300545)

The "dialectizer" http://www.rinkworks.com/diale... [rinkworks.com] "translates" English to Redneck, Jive, Cockney, Elmer Fudd, Swedish Chef, Moron, Pig Latin, or Hacker. And there's an English to Ebonics translator at http://joel.net/EBONICS/Transl... [joel.net] so it won't be that difficult to get a translator that outputs 16-year-old-girl talk.

Re:What about the following sites? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46301651)

This old thing still works =D

cold fjo'd scribbles in wid dis sto'y about research dat busts waaay down Twitta' conversashuns in 6 basic types."De Pew Research Centa' and da damn Social Media Research Foundashun analyzed dousands uh twitta' conversashuns goin' back t'2010. Dey found dese conversashuns occurred based on de structure uh de individual's Twitta' netwo'k. Fo' 'esample, de subjects and content dat some sucka' tweets about, de sucka's dey follow, de sucka's who follow dem and da damn way dey netwo'k creates some structure uh social activity. Slap mah fro! In some recently released repo't Pew repo'ts dat dey uncovered six distinct patterns fo' dese structures. 'Dese is data-rolln early steps in dig itin' Twitta' discussion structures dat contribute t'de emergin' science uh social participashun,' Ben Shneiderman super honcho uh clunker science at da damn University uh Maryland ... 'Dis new field be emergin' right befo'e our eyes and could eventually gots some large impact on our dig itin' uh everydin' fum heald t'community safety, fum business innovashun t'citizen science and fum civic engagement t'sustainable energy honky codes.' ... 'Dese maps provide insights into sucka's's behavio' in some way dat complements and 'espands on tradishunal research medods ... '"

I could not help myself... (1)

rts008 (812749) | about 6 months ago | (#46301801)

Your comment run through the "Jive" filter at the link you provided:

Your Text, Dialectized (jive)

De "dialectizer" http://www/ [www] so cut me some slack, Jack.rinkwo'ks.com/diale... [rinkwo'ks.com] "translates" English t'Redneck, JIBE, Cockney, Elma' Fudd, Swedish Chef, Mo'on, Pig Latin, o' Hacker. Ah be baaad... And dere's an English t'Ebonics translato' at http://massa/ [massa] l.net/EBONICS/Transl... [Massa' l.net] so's it won't be dat difficult t'get some translato' dat outputs 16-year-old-goat rap.
--

I'm not repeatin' mah'self
I'm an X window user; I'm an 'es-Windows user

Then that out put filtered with the "Elmer Fudd":

Your Text, Dialectized (fudd)

Youw Text, Diawectized (jive)

De "diawectizew" http://www/ [www] [www] so cut me some swack, Jack.winkwo'ks. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! com/diawe... [winkwo'ks. Oh, dat scwewy wabbit! com] "twanswates" Engwish t'Wedneck, JIBE, Cockney, Ewma' Fudd, Swedish Chef, Mo'on, Pig Watin, o' Hackew. Ah be baaad... And dewe's an Engwish t'Ebonics twanswato' at http://massa/ [massa] [massa] w.net/EBONICS/Twansw... [Massa' w.net] so's it won't be dat difficuwt t'get some twanswato' dat outputs 16-yeaw-owd-goat wap.
--

I'm not wepeatin' mah'sewf
I'm an X window usew; I'm an 'es-Windows usew

Then, since a moose once bit my sister, that output run through the "Swedish Chef" filter:
Your Text, Dialectized (bork)

Yuoov Text, Deeevectized (jeefe-a)

De-a "deeevectizoo" http://vvv/ [vvv] [vvv] su coot me-a sume-a sveck, Jeck.veenkvu'ks. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Ooh, det scvooy vebbeet! cum/deeeve-a... [veenkvu'ks. Um gesh dee bork, bork! Ooh, det scvooy vebbeet! cum] "tvunsvetes" Ingveesh t'Vedneck, JIBE, Cuckney, Ivme' Foodd, Svedeesh Cheff, Mu'un, Peeg Veteen, oo' Heckoo. Eh be-a beeed. Bork bork bork!.. Und dooe's un Ingveesh t'Ebuneecs tvunsvetu' et http://messa/ [messa] [messa] v.net/IBONICS/Tvunsv... [Messe' v.net] su's it vun't be-a det deefffficoovt t'get sume-a tvunsvetu' det ooootpoots 16-yeev-oovd-guet vep.
--

I'm nut vepeeteen' meh'sooff
I'm un X veendoo usoo; I'm un 'es-Veendoos usoo

Aannd, then run that output back through the "Jive" filter:

Your Text, Dialectized (jive)

Yo' Text, Dialectized (bo'k)

Yuoov Text, Deeevectized (jeefe-a)

De-a "deeevectizoo" http://vvv/ [vvv] [vvv] su coot me-a sume-a sveck, Jeck. Ya' know?veenkvu'ks. Um gesh dee bo'k, bo'k! Right on! Ooh, det scvooy vebbeet! Right on! cum/deeeve-a. WORD!.. [veenkvu'ks. Um gesh dee bo'k, bo'k! Right on! Ooh, det scvooy vebbeet! Right on! cum] "tvunsvetes" Ingveesh t'Vedneck, JIBE, Cuckney, Ivme' Foodd, Svedeesh Cheff, Mu'un, Peeg Veteen, oo' Heckoo. 'S coo', bro. Eh be-a beeed. Bo'k bo'k bo'k! Right on!.. Und dooe's un Ingveesh t'Ebuneecs tvunsvetu' et http://messa/ [messa] [messa] v. Man!net/IBONICS/Tvunsv. Man!.. [Messe' v. Man!net] su's it vun't be-a det deefffficoovt t'get sume-a tvunsvetu' det ooootpoots 16-yeev-oovd-guet vep. Jes hang loose, brud.
--

I'm nut vepeeteen' meh'sooff
I'm un X veendoo usoo; I'm un 'es-Veendoos usoo

All of that proves that.....I'm easily entertained.
Too bad there was not a Japanese anime filter as well. :-)

OMG! Ponnies! (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about 6 months ago | (#46300547)

OMG!!! Ponnies! [cnet.com]

Re:OMG! Ponnies! (1)

Obfuscant (592200) | about 6 months ago | (#46300597)

OMG!!! Ponnies!

I got the "OMG", but I have no idea what a "ponny" is. Am I showing my age?

Re:OMG! Ponnies! (1)

PPH (736903) | about 6 months ago | (#46300629)

Its like a pony except with two humps instead of one.

Re:OMG! Ponnies! (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about 6 months ago | (#46300799)

It's a small denomination of BitCoin.

And not enuf to buy a reel spailchekker

Re:OMG! Spelling Natzis! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300873)

OMG! Spelling Nutzis!

I'll just leave this here (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300677)

To us, perhaps, the idea of being able to find out what sex is like for our complimentary gender, or being able to get drunk/stoned/tripped-out or whatever just by thinking about it (and of course the Culture's drug-glands produce no unpleasant side-effects or physiological addiction) may seem like mere wish-fulfilment. And indeed it is partly wish-fulfilment, but then the fulfilment of wishes is both one of civilisation's most powerful drives and arguably one of its highest functions; we wish to live longer, we wish to live more comfortably, we wish to live with less anxiety and more enjoyment, less ignorance and more knowledge than our ancestors did... but the abilities to change sex and to alter one's brain-chemistry - without resort to external technology or any form of payment - both have more serious functions within the Culture. A society in which it is so easy to change sex will rapidly find out if it is treating one gender better than the other; within the population, over time, there will gradually be greater and greater numbers of the sex it is more rewarding to be, and so pressure for change - within society rather than the individuals - will presumably therefore build up until some form of sexual equality and hence numerical parity is established. In a similar fashion, a society in which everybody is free to, and does, choose to spend the majority of their time zonked out of their brains will know that there is something significantly wrong with reality, and (one would hope) do what it can to make that reality more appealing and less - in the pejorative sense - mundane.

you will be identified (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300697)

You will be personally identified by your posts.

I'd rather impersonate (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300741)

a 22-year old woman. When she was 22 the future looked bright.

Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300795)

Why would I even want to impersonate a member of the opposite gender at half my age? If I manage to mingle with girls that age, then they will likely just talk about (for me) boring stuff. You will rarely find girls that age talking about programming, machinery or anything else really interesting.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300825)

The grumpy old man is boring!

*pulls out phone and texts with Becky*

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46300933)

Did you see the Katy Perry video?! :D
There's a Memphis in Egypt! It's true! I checked Wiki! ;D ;D
Shirtless blue guys are totally hot. ;) ;) ;)
But why darkhorse????? :\
Katy keeps using that word, it doesn't mean what she says it means!!! :P :P
OMG,,, eyes of horus everywhere. How can I color my hair like that?!! ;D ;D ;) ;) :) :) :)

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46301121)

Hold on, let me don my grumpy old dad hat.

Yes! I saw it while I was monitoring your Internet usage. As a frequent reader of Oglaf, I was reminded of Mistress rejecting the crap tributes on tribute day. Now stop wasting your time texting and finish your homework. It's a school night and you'll see Becky tomorrow when you both cut class to buy pizza. And don't come crying to me when you try to stencil your hair and the attempt ends badly. Dear gods, I need a beer.

Stereotyping (2)

phmadore (1391487) | about 6 months ago | (#46300871)

Seems like it will be based too much on stereotypes. When I was 16, I typed in proper case (I wanted most of all to be a writer, and I used every opportunity to improve my grammar and typing), used big words in context, and did not easily use emoticons.

I suppose over time they could develop something keener, but if you're going to base it on the mean of all people in a certain age bracket, there will be enough exceptions to render the most useful applications of the software irrelevant.

Re:Stereotyping (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46301029)

People i know in their 40s, etc, type with abbreviations, lollers, no caps, mixed caps, all caps, etc. Notice, i type without capitalizing the word I, often many of my sentences are a bit run-on, and have many other problems. But i think i properly convey my message without too much trouble. It's crazy to see lawyers, or other educated professionals, while typing colloquially, say something like "yah ur totally a fag lol wen r u gonna be their n e ways?".

I could see a bunch of ways... (1)

tlambert (566799) | about 6 months ago | (#46300919)

I could see a bunch of ways to make tons of money from this, starting with selling it to FaceBook for $19B.

Why would I publish it for 300 Euro again? I know they *claim* it's not published, but if they didn't sign an NDA, you're not going to get a patent out of it outside the U.S., and you're not going to have any protection against them just using your algorithms.

This is a really silly contest.

yeah anyone who can, won't for 300€ (2)

raymorris (2726007) | about 6 months ago | (#46301409)

Three hundred euro? The contest sparks my interest, but 300 is about what it would take to get me to fill out the entry form. To develop an effective NEW algorithm, code it, and test it in HOPES of winning the prize? Maybe for 300,000, maybe. 3,000,000 would be more like it.

I've developed exactly two truly innovative products. One I sold over $1 million worth, the other still provides $3,000 / month in net income . Why would I, or anyone skilled and innovative, touch this for 300 euro?

Gender Genie? (1)

brit74 (831798) | about 6 months ago | (#46301301)

Didn't Gender Genie already attempt to do this? https://www.google.com/search?... [google.com]
(I say "attempt" because I found that even in cases where I wasn't trying to fool it, it would often come up with the wrong gender.)

Style leaves a lot of clues (2)

godrik (1287354) | about 6 months ago | (#46301307)

A friend of mine was working on sentiment analysis. They studied the content of yahoo answer and it was quite interesting all the correlations that you can make. The study is of course not enough to provide a direct identification, but it shows how many parameters you need to keep in mind when building a "virtual identity".
http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/... [ohio-state.edu]

Just what I need ... (5, Funny)

MacTO (1161105) | about 6 months ago | (#46301367)

Now both people and computers will call me a girl.

Re:Just what I need ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46302483)

My sophisticated 300-euro neural network confirms this to be accurate.

It'll be fine (1)

russotto (537200) | about 6 months ago | (#46301595)

I managed to get my impersonation of a 16-year-old girl into the training set.

WTF is this bullshit ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46301603)

Who could possibly even care about this ?

Stories like this are sealing the fate of the once wonderful
Slashdot, which is now a cesspool of subhuman idiocy.

Re:WTF is this bullshit ? (1)

mtthwbrnd (1608651) | about 6 months ago | (#46301629)

I second that!

Re:WTF is this bullshit ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46302537)

My analysis of your choice of words tells me that you are a girl. Specifically, the whiny little bitch kind.

A couple of rules to live by. (2, Funny)

dietdew7 (1171613) | about 6 months ago | (#46301857)

1. You can assume that someone is female if they act like a man without reason or accountability. 2. Anyone that shows interest in you sexually is an undercover police officer.

Mission Suspect (2)

Borg Bucolic (1342221) | about 6 months ago | (#46301989)

What kind of person is willing to spend 300 euros for detecting 16 year olds online, mmmm?

Author identification = NSA Software (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46302129)

I hope people participating in software like this know that they are developing de-anonymising software that is very useful for the NSA, and harmful to people trying to be anonymous.

Online identity muddies the water (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46302215)

I'm just going to throw my two cents out there because anyone who has played a MMORPG for three months can easily identify the gender and age of who they talk to online.

Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, various blogs and such have the assistance of spellchecking from the browser. So it's slightly harder, but not entirely such.

The older (or at least more mature) someone is, the less intentional spelling gaffs you will see. Children, teens and immature adults will use short hand like "r u ok?" without a second thought. Mature and intelligent children, teens and adults will find the shorthand to be idiotic and not use it. While playing MMORPG's with what I speculate to be children between the age of 12 and 18 for the most part, the one thing I was constantly told was that I "sounded too proper" though it was contagious. The people I surrounded myself with used the short hand a lot less over time.

As for figuring out the gender of the person online. This goes back to short hand but instead now you look at emotion use. Young girls and teenage women will use emotional language with less intent behind it. A phrase like "Oh quit being such a bitch :D" may pair negative emotions with positive "I'm only joking" emoticons. Males on the other hand don't use emoticons very often, and will use aggressive language with others perceived to be male, even if they aren't. What muddies this up is that Gay and Lesbian individuals actually express emotional language more inline with the other gender. So a straight male and a lesbian female may write just as aggressively, but the female will have no reason to hold back using against males or females. Gay males may not be wanting to out themselves so easily so the language used may be more neutral. Then you have transgender individuals who pretty much have a unique emotional language all their own, and it's unfortunately very easy to identify (to be blunt, they tend to be exaggerated in line with the gender they identify as, but are inconsistent enough that they could false positive any automated gender identity test.)

I have no doubt this post will just disappear into the sea of Anonymous Cowards on Slashdot, but the easiest way to identify someone on the internet is to just ask tangentially related questions. Much easier done if they are single.

Is the summary... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46302387)

...an example of how a 16 yo girl would write one?

Wrong (1)

Karmashock (2415832) | about 6 months ago | (#46302409)

Computers are very bad at judging these things. It isn't their strength.

good ,old tyre recycling pyrolysis plant (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46302547)

Doinggroup manufacture pyrolysis plant [wastetireoil.com] ,pyrolysis reactors [wastetireoil.com] ,waste tyre pyrolysis plant [wastetireoil.com] ,our pyrolysis plant can pyrolyze waste tyres and waste plastic into fuel oil.

Ehm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46302629)

My attempts always fail when I show my hairy d*** in the chatroom for the 16yo boys....

Just sayin'

(J/K for the ones who don't understand dark humour ;)

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