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Apple To Unveil Its 'iOS In the Car' Project Next Week

Soulskill posted about 6 months ago | from the for-cars-with-just-one-button dept.

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An anonymous reader tips news that Apple's efforts to bring iOS to cars will be shown at the Geneva Motor Show next week. 'Drivers will be able to use Apple Maps as in-car navigation, as well as listen to music and watch films. Calls can be made through the system, which will tie into the Siri voice recognition platform so that messages can be read to the driver who can respond by dictating a reply.' Apple's partners in the automotive industry will be Volvo, Ferrari, and Mercedes Benz to start. Apple first said they were working on this system at last year's WWDC.

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"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (5, Funny)

mrspoonsi (2955715) | about 6 months ago | (#46378561)

Way to go to kill the product before it begins...

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46378567)

Maybe you have to pay more to not have this feature, and trade up to a decent navigation system instead?

ukraine! (-1, Offtopic)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about 6 months ago | (#46378821)

how come slashdot hasn't posted yet on the invasion of ukraine? that's some big freaking news, and I look forward to some enlightened comments especially from those on the other side of the narrow sea.

Re:ukraine! (1)

NekSnappa (803141) | about 6 months ago | (#46378853)

Don't worry they will soon. Then there will be a bunch of people bitching about how it's not news for nerds.

Re:ukraine! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46378899)

Probably because it has nothing to do with news for nerds?

Re:ukraine! (3, Funny)

Applehu Akbar (2968043) | about 6 months ago | (#46379519)

It will be if those tank drivers are using Apple Maps.

Re:ukraine! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46378965)

Is it even on twitter yet ? Major events happen on twitter. People with ipads make history.

Re:ukraine! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379493)

You mean that an angry mob of rioters in Kiev - backed by the US & UK - caused the democratically elected president to flee to Russia for safety?

Yeah, I wish there were more comments about that.

Re:ukraine! (0)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about 6 months ago | (#46379513)

no that I mean russia is sending troops into crimea. that kind of invasion.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379229)

Maybe you have to pay more to not have this feature, and trade up to a decent navigation system instead?

Not to mention that Apple are so late to the game they don't have their usual first-mover advantage to lean on. Even Blackberry beat them to market.

They'll have to find another way to compete with the existing players, and I actually think how they go about it will be the acid test for post-Jobs Apple. If they come up with something game-changing that stands on its own as an innovative and useful product, they have a future. If not, and they try to leverage iPhone/Pod/Pad compatibility or lock in, then they're dying.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (3, Insightful)

MightyYar (622222) | about 6 months ago | (#46379363)

Their usual first-mover advantage? Has Apple ever been a first-mover? Maybe the Lisa 30 years ago, and that sold horribly. Apple's last 3 successes have been taking something that mostly sucked with a tiny market and blowing it up by making something that sucked a lot less and thus expanding the market.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46378579)

The reviews that went along with iOS 7 appeared to suggest that Apple Maps had improved dramatically.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (1, Interesting)

fiziko (97143) | about 6 months ago | (#46378595)

Most Apple Maps issues were a side effect of an early launch. They thought they'd have another year with Google Maps, and development was incomplete, but they opted for poor navigation rather than no navigation. I find it about as effective as Google Maps for my region these days. They've had the time to make it the product they always wanted it to be.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (1, Troll)

gIobaljustin (3526197) | about 6 months ago | (#46378693)

That might be the case, but it might also not be the case.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46378787)

How very insightful.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (3, Funny)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 6 months ago | (#46378941)

Son of a bitch!

There is no way you're wrong.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (1)

_xeno_ (155264) | about 6 months ago | (#46378727)

Most Apple Maps issues were a side effect of an early launch.

Maybe, but as far as I can tell, they've never fixed the somewhat hilariously misplaced POIs near me. They appear to be untouched from when I first checked them back when iOS 6 was released. (Although I see that the power substation is now a Men's Wearhouse instead of a Nordstroms, so I guess something has been updated.)

The other Apple Maps issue is that they don't show the difference between "there's no traffic here" and "we don't collect data for this road" making their traffic reports entirely useless.

Combine the two, and no one I know with an iDevice bothers with Apple Maps for navigation, they stick with the Google Maps app. It's still better.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (3, Insightful)

Savage-Rabbit (308260) | about 6 months ago | (#46378841)

Most Apple Maps issues were a side effect of an early launch.

Maybe, but as far as I can tell, they've never fixed the somewhat hilariously misplaced POIs near me. They appear to be untouched from when I first checked them back when iOS 6 was released. (Although I see that the power substation is now a Men's Wearhouse instead of a Nordstroms, so I guess something has been updated.)

The other Apple Maps issue is that they don't show the difference between "there's no traffic here" and "we don't collect data for this road" making their traffic reports entirely useless.

Combine the two, and no one I know with an iDevice bothers with Apple Maps for navigation, they stick with the Google Maps app. It's still better.

I know it borders on sacrilege to point this out but Google Maps conks out on you the moment you don't have network coverage and while it has a caching function I'll still put my trust in an old fashioned Garmin unit any time. I haven't tried the Garmin iPad app yet but if it's any good, combining it with the Garmin HUD [garmin.com] looks like it would bee too good a nerd toy to pass up.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 6 months ago | (#46379743)

I know it borders on sacrilege to point this out but Google Maps conks out on you the moment you don't have network coverage and while it has a caching function I'll still put my trust in an old fashioned Garmin unit any time.

Nexus 4 owner here. When I want to get somewhere, especially someplace in the mountains, I use my Garmin. It's a LMT model and I paid $100 for it as a refurb or last year's model or something. It has no features beyond navigation; that's what my phone is for.

With that said, my phone actually gets better GPS reception than my GPS... it just doesn't get better phone reception than my GPS gets GPS reception.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (2)

Phurd Phlegm (241627) | about 6 months ago | (#46378755)

The last time I seriously tried to use the map app was in November. I wanted to visit a Volkswagen dealer that I knew was in the area, but not its exact location. I searched for "Volkswagen" and it showed me six hits around the metro area. None of them were the VW dealer, though one did include the string "Volkswagen" in its name. All of them were further away than the dealership, too. At other times, searching shows me locations in the San Francisco Bay area when I am in Minnesota. As far as I can tell, the "side effects of an early launch" are still there and the map app has been demoted to the back page of my phone again.

Hm (2)

Kartu (1490911) | about 6 months ago | (#46378987)

Google didn't just ban Google Maps on iOS.
Apple wanted more features, Google wanted to have more prominent branding in return, Apple didn't want to give that.

So they chose poor user experience just not to say "oh it's google's map apps" more prominently.

Re: "Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379371)

Apple maps may have improved, but battery drain, network connection stability and resource usage all became major problems.

Even though i never use iOS maps, the rest of my system is completely fucked. I can have one or two apps running, max...and they will freeze.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (3, Insightful)

jonwil (467024) | about 6 months ago | (#46378609)

Apple Maps is still better than the out-of-date-before-it-even-launches navigation systems in most cars these days. The ones where you might (if you are lucky) be able to get a set of 2-year-old maps as an "update" to your system if you can find a dealer willing to sell it to you and you are willing to pay the big price.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46378959)

It's funny because with Apple the client is the product.

As opposed to other brands where the client is the product but one doesn't have to pay piles of cash in order to look retarded with such a locked down device.

Also fuck /. beta.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379155)

On the contrary -this is the big difference. Apple is pretty much the only company out there where the client isn't the product these days.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379257)

Apple is pretty much the only company out there where the client isn't the product these days.

Oh really?

Christensen et al v. Apple Inc.

“As a condition of using their credit cards, plaintiffs were required by Apple to enter personal identification information associated with the credit card, including their full and complete zip codes. Apple would not allow plaintiff to complete their purchases without supplying such information.”

Apple acknowledges openly on their website that they reserve the right to “make certain personal information available to strategic partners that work with Apple to provide products and services, or that help Apple market to customers.”

“First, Plaintiffs and the Class have been injured because they have received unwanted marketing materials from Apple as a result of having provided their zip codes when using credit cards at Apple. Second, Plaintiffs and the Class have been injured by Apple's sale of Plaintiffs' and the Class' PII to third-parties, which was collected by Apple in violation of Mass. Gen. Laws chapter. 93 105(c)"

http://dockets.justia.com/dock... [justia.com]

At least you know where you stand with companies that are honest about their advertising practices.

Re:"Apple Maps as in-car navigation" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379505)

Right, you're *much* better off with the company that you absolutely know is selling you up the river for every dime they can get, than with the company that just has it in their ToS to cover their ass.

Volve (2)

future assassin (639396) | about 6 months ago | (#46378575)

I though Volve was going with Valve Steam OS for the cars.

Re:Volve (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46378617)

No, that deal involves Valvo.

Re:Volve (1)

hi-endian (2589843) | about 6 months ago | (#46378737)

No, you're thinking of Vulva.

Re:Volve (1)

Marginal Coward (3557951) | about 6 months ago | (#46378879)

No, that was one of Jerry's girlfriends on "Seinfeld".

Re:Volve (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379389)

No, that was Mulva.

Re:Volve (1)

Marginal Coward (3557951) | about 6 months ago | (#46379609)

No, that was Mazda.

Re:Volve (1)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | about 6 months ago | (#46379311)

The only auto maker you can fuck back.

Re:Volve (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 6 months ago | (#46378621)

Nah, too proletariat - notice the companies that Apple has targeted. Ferrari, Volvo, Mercedes. Owners who are not terribly price sensitive.

No free lunch.

Re:Volve (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379013)

Those are the ones this week. Hyundai and Kia are on the list too, along with Chevrolet, Nissan, Honda, and Toyota.

Re:Volve (1)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | about 6 months ago | (#46379051)

And Apple is only a Buick class of device provider. Movin' on up, I guess.

Re:Volve (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379285)

One day they'll get to be the Toyota Camry of electronic devices. If they don't screw up.

Re:Volve (0)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about 6 months ago | (#46378913)

Maybe it is the Swedish car company Saabo, located in Maalmo . . . ?

bad ide (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | about 6 months ago | (#46378583)

proprietary stuff like this in cars is a bad idea. Look at all those cars from 200x that had startacs integrated... how dated. It may seem inconceivable for apple to disappear before the end of life for the car, but apple had no problem changing their connector cable and obsoleting millions of add on devices.
There needs to be something platform agnostic.

Re:bad ide (1)

Tau Neutrino (76206) | about 6 months ago | (#46378665)

Right, because once Apple switched to the Lightning connector, all those old 30-pin connectors stopped working, and everybody with older phones had to buy new cables. And we all know that Mercedes, Volvo and Ferrari use nothing but industry-standard parts that are compatible with those from all other manufacturers.

Re:bad ide (1)

hi-endian (2589843) | about 6 months ago | (#46378797)

Don't forget that once Apple switched to the Lightning connector, they also didn't release any sort of adapter [apple.com] that would let a person connect to a 30-pin device [apple.com] , nor did anyone else [google.com]

Re:bad ide (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | about 6 months ago | (#46379011)

right, those work flawlessly [iphonejd.com]

Re:bad ide (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379027)

Thank you for pointing-out how Apple fucked everyone with 30-pin accessories. They were happy to sell $600 B&W speakers that were obsolete and now allowed to work the very next day. My boyfriend got fucked over by that. His iPhone 5 does not work with his speakers, and Apple doesn't care. The Republicans have created a business environment in this country that not only allows, but encourages companies to fuck over their customers like this. CONservatives love Apple for doing this. Apple represents everything those people love. Apple is pure greed.

Re:bad ide (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | about 6 months ago | (#46378811)

My old iPod still works with my old iPod dock, but the new iPod, iPhone, and iPad will no longer work with my old dock. If my old iPod stops working, i'll have to buy a new dock just to hook up my new devices.

Re:bad ide (1)

R3d M3rcury (871886) | about 6 months ago | (#46379277)

That's what's brilliant about this. You buy a new phone and then you have to buy a new car to go with it!

Re:bad ide (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | about 6 months ago | (#46379335)

very few used different formats for connecting to your music, though.

Re:bad ide (1)

Marginal Coward (3557951) | about 6 months ago | (#46378897)

You're a little early. Wait until the 15th to beware.

(for those who didn't get this obscure joke, see parent's title)

Re:bad ide (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | about 6 months ago | (#46378981)

very funny!
Turning a typo into a plus!

watch out (0)

Xicor (2738029) | about 6 months ago | (#46378597)

they'd better watch out and make sure it doesnt rout them off highways or through lakes

Volve? (1)

JabrTheHut (640719) | about 6 months ago | (#46378633)

Is that a new brand I've never heard of? Maybe the editors are so busy f*cking up beta that they no longer have time to introduce more than one obvious mistake into each thread...

Re:Volve? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379615)

Is that a new brand I've never heard of? Maybe the editors are so busy f*cking up beta that they no longer have time to introduce more than one obvious mistake into each thread...

Cars evolve just like life.

One button mouse (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46378657)

It only works in cars with one pedal on the floor...

Re:One button mouse (1)

mark-t (151149) | about 6 months ago | (#46378791)

So, like... a golf cart?

No more Volvo? (1)

marcroelofs (797176) | about 6 months ago | (#46378685)

I hope Volvo will think again before committing itself to a brand that has only 13% market share and is disliked by most of the rest. I will look for another brand after 18 years of loyalty.

Re:No more Volvo? (2)

noh8rz10 (2716597) | about 6 months ago | (#46378735)

i imagine that amongst volvo's target market (people who drive volvos and those who could afford one) the share of iPhones is much much higher. i personally am holding off on a new car purchase until the iOS car integration is expanded further.

Re:No more Volvo? (2)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | about 6 months ago | (#46378765)

Disliked by most of the rest? I think you have Slashdot slanted glasses on, because most people don't displike Apple; they simply can't afford it. They quite literally don't know if they like it or not, because ... wait for it ... they can't afford it.

Last time I've checked (1)

Kartu (1490911) | about 6 months ago | (#46379035)

Top Android phones had prices on par of Apple's, please stop repeating that myth.

There are things which I don't like about Android (app permissions being the worst thing), but iOS's dull grid of icon UI is years behind it.

Re:No more Volvo? (1)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | about 6 months ago | (#46379071)

I have three devices that run iOS. Of course, all three of them are now obsoleted by Apple. One was bought brand new less than two years ago. I dislike all of them at this point.

I still like my SE/30 but I run NetBSD on that.

iPod connectors/compatibility since at least '06 (3, Informative)

swb (14022) | about 6 months ago | (#46378967)

For my '07 S80-V8 an iPod connector and in-dash stereo integration was a factory option (which I added).

It works pretty well -- playlists, artists, etc. It's the "older" dock connector so a 30 pin iPhone complains about it and won't charge, but I just put in an old 60 GB iPod and leave it in there and run my iPhone off a ProClip holder with a lightning-30pin adapter run to a split USB/aux cable that connects to the AUX in, so I can have iPhone audio on the stereo, too. It's kind of a Rube Goldberg setup, but the cables are neat and its nice to do podcasts or Pandora if I want.

Bluetooth would be better overall (less stuff, less cords) but the bluetooth from that year isn't as nice as the iPod control is.

I wonder why Apple can't make AirPlay mirroring with touch to an in-dash display a standard. For makers, it would make it something Android could support with an additional protocol and it would eliminate the need for most of the horrible in-dash infotainment systems car makers come up with.

Re:iPod connectors/compatibility since at least '0 (1)

whoever57 (658626) | about 6 months ago | (#46379143)

I wonder why Apple can't make AirPlay mirroring with touch to an in-dash display a standard. For makers, it would make it something Android could support

I think that you just answered your own question.

Re:iPod connectors/compatibility since at least '0 (1)

melchoir55 (218842) | about 6 months ago | (#46379151)

For my '07 S80-V8 an iPod connector and in-dash stereo integration was a factory option (which I added).

It works pretty well -- playlists, artists, etc. It's the "older" dock connector so a 30 pin iPhone complains about it and won't charge, but I just put in an old 60 GB iPod and leave it in there and run my iPhone off a ProClip holder with a lightning-30pin adapter run to a split USB/aux cable that connects to the AUX in, so I can have iPhone audio on the stereo, too. It's kind of a Rube Goldberg setup, but the cables are neat and its nice to do podcasts or Pandora if I want.

Bluetooth would be better overall (less stuff, less cords) but the bluetooth from that year isn't as nice as the iPod control is.

I wonder why Apple can't make AirPlay mirroring with touch to an in-dash display a standard. For makers, it would make it something Android could support with an additional protocol and it would eliminate the need for most of the horrible in-dash infotainment systems car makers come up with.

Apple's business philosophy has always been about total control. You will never find Apple sportingly participating in a market, even if it is to their advantage. They built their own maps system in order to compete with a completely free and very effective one(google), they are the last manufacturer of note clinging to using proprietary cables, the list goes one. Apple wouldn't want to do what you are suggesting because that means other systems could participate in the environment. They don't want that. They want all Apple, or they don't want to be involved.

Re:iPod connectors/compatibility since at least '0 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379215)

Yep... and it "Just works". Sheesh!!

Re:iPod connectors/compatibility since at least '0 (1)

ArhcAngel (247594) | about 6 months ago | (#46379393)

For my '07 S80-V8 an iPod connector and in-dash stereo integration was a factory option (which I added).

I believe your '07 S80-V8 is running QNX. [qnx.com] The option you purchased was a module for QNX that talks to iPhones/iPods. [qnx.com] QNX/BlackBerry are partners with Apple and the reports I've read indicate that iOS for car will still be running the QNX kernel.

I wonder why Apple can't make AirPlay mirroring with touch to an in-dash display a standard. For makers, it would make it something Android could support with an additional protocol and it would eliminate the need for most of the horrible in-dash infotainment systems car makers come up with.

QNX supports Miracast and Mirrorlink so if it is enabled by the manufacturer any device with those technologies will be able to just what you are asking for. In fact QNX demoed the tech at CES 2014 [youtu.be] (Jump to 7:00)

Yellow Brick Road is really YELLOW VULVA (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46378759)

over and over

THE WAY IS SHUT!

Uhmmm... what? (4, Insightful)

mark-t (151149) | about 6 months ago | (#46378763)

Drivers will be able to use Apple Maps as in-car navigation, as well as listen to music and watch films.

Say what?

No.... seriously... what?

Is Apple fucking insane?

Re:Uhmmm... what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46378839)

This is for passengers in the back seat, using headrest monitors or a flip-down central monitor, just like is currently built in to millions of cars already (using a DVD reader in the head unit). Are you fucking stupid?

Re:Uhmmm... what? (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 6 months ago | (#46378953)

Are you fucking stupid?

Nope. His mom had him tested.

Re:Uhmmm... what? (2)

mrprogrammerman (2736973) | about 6 months ago | (#46378989)

The summary clearly says "drivers".

Re:Uhmmm... what? (1)

gutnor (872759) | about 6 months ago | (#46379059)

That has been a common feature on BMW: the navigation screen - so in the middle of the console, meant mainly for the driver - had a DVD player. Never really understood that. The marketing about it is awkward, similarly targeted at the driver. I can imagine/hope it is ultimately for the passenger.

Re:Uhmmm... what? (1)

bloodhawk (813939) | about 6 months ago | (#46379453)

Not sure about your BMW, but I had that in mine as well as in my VW. Both of them would not allow playback of video if the car was not stationary, So yes they are for the driver, but not while your driving.

Ha ha Ford just signed up with Blackberry (3, Interesting)

EmperorOfCanada (1332175) | about 6 months ago | (#46378809)

Ford goes from Microsoft's sync (which most people call MS Stink) and signs up with the zombie corpse of a phone company blackberry. I wonder which genius company (who's shares are about to get another boost) will team up with Apple? Tesla maybe? Fiat? Ford having Blackberry will probably cause exactly 3 customers to pick ford. But Apple will attract hoards of people not only can they put an apple in their pocket but they can get into the pocket of an apple.

Re:Ha ha Ford just signed up with Blackberry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379045)

Just because they don't work, doesn't mean it was Microsoft's fault. My roommate is an admin with the team that worked with Ford, and the Microsoft team is competent. It was Ford that implemented the Microsoft design so poorly that the radios don't work. In my Fusion, I can't listen to the radio because of Ford's poor implementation. It was not Microsoft's fault that Ford regressed 60+ years to a time before cars didn't come with working radios. It was Ford that sold the broken radios that also refuses to fix them. I would love to have a radio in my car, and I know who is responsible for not allowing that to happen. It was not Microsoft.

Re:Ha ha Ford just signed up with Blackberry (1)

oscrivellodds (1124383) | about 6 months ago | (#46379553)

Are the problems with MS Sync something that doesn't show up when you're test driving the car?

From what I have read, Sync sucks big time and not in any hidden way. If that is the case, why are people buying cars with such a crappy system? Would you buy the car if the windows didn't go up and down or if the engine didn't work properly?

Then again, I have wondered why people buy American cars at all- a few minutes with the consumer reports guide tells you which cars are reliable and which are not, and American cars have been low on the lists for years. That's why the commercials tout surveys of initial customer satisfaction, not satisfaction two or three years down the road.

Re:Ha ha Ford just signed up with Blackberry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379721)

Of course it was Ford's fault. I mean look at all of the other successes of Windows Embedded for cars. Oh wait, there are none. Do you know why? It's a piece of junk that's just as bloated and flaky as their desktop OS.

Re:Ha ha Ford just signed up with Blackberry (1)

Marginal Coward (3557951) | about 6 months ago | (#46379695)

I've got a 2012 Ford with Sync, and it's actually fine. Just don't expect its voice recognition to play the actual music track you've asked for. Fortunately, the juxtaposition between what you asked for and what it gives you can be more entertaining than hearing the track you requested. It's a feature.

I don't know if the voice recognition in Apple's system would work any better, but that seems to be the hard part of the problem. Maybe Apple will solve that by phoning home to the mother ship to decode what you say. Then think of all the fun you'll be missing, gentlemen - you won't have voice recognition to kick around anymore [wikipedia.org] .

orly? (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 6 months ago | (#46378817)

"Drivers will be able to use Apple Maps as in-car navigation"
And why the hell would anyone want to do that?

No Thanks (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46378833)

Just trading one proprietary heap of shit for another.

With the cost of hardware as it is now, it would be very easy and economical to create a dockable/interchangable infotainment system for cars.

Of course, car makers would have no part of that as they wouldn't be able to gouge customers for multi-thousand dollar navigation/infotainment systems with crappy software, shitty UIs and horrendous voice control.

Re:No Thanks (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46378877)

About the only reason I would want to replace my 12 year old vehicle is that I would like to have a nicely integrated nav system, satellite radio, hd radio, etc. Other than that? Cars runs great, has been well cared for, and should last another 8-10 years easily.

Car makers don't want this, which is why they will continue to purposefully make it difficult/expensive to upgrade those kinds of things. Other than MPG improvements, there hasn't been a must have (for the average joe) improvement in overall vehicle quality/experience in more than a decade. The focus has been on efficiency and "green' tech rather than creature comforts that are huge selling points for new cars. The last bastion of that is infotainment.

Re:No Thanks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379705)

Wouldn't it be great to have a Linux-based car infotainment system? I look forward to recompiling the kernel every time I put a new CD in.

soylentnews.org (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46378835)

it's good.

Apple maps... really... (-1)

melchoir55 (218842) | about 6 months ago | (#46378843)

Apple doesn't get it anymore. Five years ago they were cutting edge on trends (maybe not on actual tech). Now they are a little behind. The trend isn't looking good.

This nav system is going to be as popular as the facebook cell phone.

Re:Apple maps... really... (1)

ClaraBow (212734) | about 6 months ago | (#46378973)

Apple doesn't get it anymore. Five years ago they were cutting edge on trends (maybe not on actual tech). Now they are a little behind. The trend isn't looking good.

What trend are they behind? Just curious.

Re:Apple maps... really... (0)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | about 6 months ago | (#46379739)

Better: what trend have they ever been ahead of?
- Computers? Nope.
- Phones? Nope.
- Tablets? Nope.
- Media convergence? Nope.
- Navigation? Nope.

Yet their revenue is insane. So it must be something other than timeliness.

Re:Apple maps... really... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379007)

Apple maps are a million times better than the piece of shit google maps.

Re:Apple maps... really... (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | about 6 months ago | (#46379345)

as long as you don't want to get anywhere

Re:Apple maps... really... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379731)

That's funny because all of the POI's in Apple Maps point to shit dumps.

If Cars Were Macs... (1)

um.yup. (2892409) | about 6 months ago | (#46378881)

From my experience with Macs, I'd imagine the ignition would be placed near the exaust and the volume controls are placed underneath the seat (because it makes sense...ish), only one door would be available (no matter how many seats), and you could only go to the places the car tells you you can go. Plus, at the car dealership, if you ask how the car works, the dealer will smile politely, not say a word, and calmly and carefully rub your arm, ensuring you everything works the way it's supposed to.

We use apple maps to get lost in Northern Virginia (1)

Ralph Ostrander (2846785) | about 6 months ago | (#46378891)

It is really that bad.

Re:We use apple maps to get lost in Northern Virgi (2)

cbhacking (979169) | about 6 months ago | (#46378935)

As in, "Hey, lets go for a joyride!" "Sounds good, anywhere in particular?" "Nah, I've got it covered though" *pushes button* "Siri, directions to the nearest 7-11"?

Because that would be hilarious.

Glad someone is finally getting in on this one (3, Interesting)

GodfatherofSoul (174979) | about 6 months ago | (#46378949)

Every in-car nav system I've looked at has terrible reviews; even the dealership told me not to sweat going for the GPS option in my new car. I've got this big fancy LCD and a fancy audio system and a cell phone, but no one to tie them together.

Funny how liberals equip Ferraris... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379015)

while the Republicans equip Fords with their Microsoft garbage. I wish my Focus had a working radio, but the CONservatives in this country just don't allow that. Instead, I'm forced to illegally listening to headphones. It is illegal here in CA to do so, but that is what the Republicans have forced us into.

Airplay mirroring with touch to in-dash display (2)

swb (14022) | about 6 months ago | (#46379033)

This is what they should be doing, but I fear it will be something more idiotic than that.

They can already do Airplay mirroring now and it's hard to believe that there's not an as-of-yet unimplemented protocol extension that would allow the touch input on the remote display to be sent to the phone. About the hardest part would be making sure the in-dash display was big enough and the right aspect ratio.

It'd be the most elegant solution -- all your apps with cellular data on the in-dash screen. No cords. They'd have to suppress messaging and maybe the keyboard in any app except maps or when not moving.

But I fear it will be iOS somehow adapted to the car itself and running on its hardware with a mandatory cellular data contract to make any of it useful and the 'apps' will be limited to a half-dozen or so and we'll still just use bluetooth for music and phones.

Re:Airplay mirroring with touch to in-dash display (1)

malakai (136531) | about 6 months ago | (#46379657)

I heard from Tim Cook that they plan on replacing the gas and brake pedals, with just one pedal. The context of applying pressure to this single pedal will determine whether the car speeds up or slows down.

Lost? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379065)

Who would want this? Maybe It'd be nice to have an OEM Mac mini in the dash, but iOS? LOL!!!!

Glad my car uses Google instead (3, Interesting)

AaronW (33736) | about 6 months ago | (#46379205)

I'm glad my car uses a combination of Google and Garmin for the GPS. On the main screen (Tesla Model S) it shows a satellite view of the map, with pinch-zoom and rotation support via the touch screen whereas next to the speedometer it shows a more traditional 3-D GPS view which I understand is supplied by Garmin (I could be wrong though). For voice recognition it uses Google's service. The next major update due out soon improves the time estimates in real-time using the live traffic information that is overlayed over the Google map. The main screen map caches data along the route (except satellite data) for when the 3G signal is lost and the other display relies entirely on in-car maps.

My car also runs Linux for the main screen using the Qt toolkit for the UI. The only complaints I have heard are that the radio doesn't handle the proprietary Apple audio files but it handles MP3, Ogg and Flac just fine (with my USB drive formatted EXT4). Now if only Waze were integrated.

STOP REDIRECTING TO BETA, you FUCKTARDS. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379283)

Goddamnit, I hope all you Slashdot idiots die of cancer this year.

Apple Maps (1)

anethema (99553) | about 6 months ago | (#46379361)

"Drivers will be able to use Apple Maps as in-car navigation"

Not sure how that compares to most in-car navigation, but Apple maps is still a pile of garbage. They maps are much harder to see than googles, the POI database is terrible, the routing is unusable, at least in small-town Canada.

Be interesting to see what they come up with but I sure hope it has an App store to switch out the maps.

No thanks, I've had enough of Apple's "design". (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379379)

Examples :

* The recent crippling of local sync in Mavericks.

* The security flaws in iOS and OS X which Apple did not resolve
      nearly as quickly as it could or should have done.

* The disappearance of useful user interface details without notice to the user community
      beforehand.

Tim Cook might be a good accountant, but he is leading Apple into the abyss of mass market mediocrity,
and though I have been an Apple user for a long time, I am now working on making sure I am not using
Apple products at all within the next calendar year. I've had enough of capricious design changes and
the arrogance that Apple shows toward its long time faithful customers.

And by the way, all this "in car" stuff is bullshit. The car is meant to be driven by a DRIVER who is
paying full attention to driving, not by a consumer who interacts with iTunes etc. while driving.

one thing you can be sure of: (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46379457)

The iCar won't have any windows.

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