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Gamecube: Launch Delayed, Logo Added

timothy posted more than 12 years ago | from the it's-just-two-weeks dept.

Games 295

transient0 writes: "According to this article from Reuters, Nintendo Corp. has pushed back the U.S. launch of the Gamecube console by two weeks from November 5 to November 18. This means that the X-Box will be hitting U.S. shelves before the Gamecube does." Alec Muzzy adds: "Does anyone remember this article where Nintendo Executive Vice President, Peter Main, said '...Microsoft has announced November 8th as their launch date, but I don't think that's final. The GameCube will definitely launch on schedule though...' In a related story, the GameCube will now feature a logo from IBM."

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Fuck Nintendo! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209187)

Atari Rules!!

IBM slogan? (4, Funny)

Satai (111172) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209190)

In a related story, the GameCube will now feature a logo from IBM.

GameCube: The only console that's guaranteed to kick your ass at Chess.

Re:IBM slogan? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209295)

on the fourth day of slascode 2.2, some fawking troll gave to me:

four missing posts,
three lameness filters,
two goatse [netscape.com] links [netscape.com] ,

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and a penis bird in a grits tree!

BSD is dying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209420)

BSD is dying to plunge his mansteak into Tux's back door.

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The game machine I'm waiting for (2)

JohnTheFisherman (225485) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209192)

The Okamaaaaaaaaaaaa Gamesphere.

Re:The game machine I'm waiting for (1)

kurowski (11243) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209309)

GameCube debunks GameSphere! GameSphere is stupid and evil!

(if you don't get it [timecube.com] then just move along. there's nothing to see here, folks.)

Re:The game machine I'm waiting for (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209457)

Don't forget to bring a towel!

What could be better than my intellivision? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209200)

Why would you want anything else? B-17 bomber rules!

Great! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209201)

Now bring out a GC version of TMNT so we can have Pizza Hut ads on the screen and we'll be all set!

No problem. (2)

Rimbo (139781) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209204)

From the rumors, I think there's a good chance Microsoft will not have every X-box available at their launch that they'd hoped, so although this allows the folks in Redmond to steal a little of Nintendo's thunder, I don't think it'll have that much effect.

On top of that, the Gamecube audience (pre-teens and older) and the X-box audience (older teens, young adults) are different, so this is more of a disappointment for that audience than it is a real problem for the GC's success.

Re:No problem. (1)

DinZy (513280) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209275)

I am a young adult and I'm gonna buy a cube! Check out Zelda. Now that is some style!

Re:No problem. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209353)

a/s/l?

Re:No problem. (2, Funny)

poot_rootbeer (188613) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209283)

this allows the folks in Redmond to steal a little of Nintendo's thunder
Um, Nintendo of America is headquartered in Redmond, too...

Re:No problem. (3, Insightful)

OmegaDan (101255) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209330)

Its not about the system, its about the titles :)

Bring back metroid, mega man and zelda and I'll buy a gamecube :)

the console itself is just the theature the story is told at ...

Re:No problem. (2)

Rimbo (139781) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209455)

Its not about the system, its about the titles :)

Bring back metroid, mega man and zelda and I'll buy a gamecube :)

the console itself is just the theature the story is told at ...


True... I guess we'll all have to buy both of them!

Re:No problem. (3, Funny)

jeffy124 (453342) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209332)

You mention folks from redmond stealing Nintendo thunder. IIRC, Nintendo's north america headquarters are also located in Redmond.

Re:No problem. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209388)

What's IIRC mean? Never figured it out....

Re:No problem. (1)

Rimbo (139781) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209409)

If I Recall Correctly

IIRC

Re:No problem. (2)

AndrewHowe (60826) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209412)

If I Recall Correctly
Or Remember, i guess.

Re:No problem. (2)

Rimbo (139781) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209397)

You mention folks from redmond stealing Nintendo thunder. IIRC, Nintendo's north america headquarters are also located in Redmond.

Hehehehe... uh.. ah... oops. :)

Yeah uhm...well...ahh... I mean those OTHER folks in Redmond... Not the ones with a really cool console coming out in November, but the ... wait a minute.

*wild-eyed look*

I CAN'T TELL THEM APART! All these corporations! They all look the same, look the same.... Can't... see... differences... Noooooo...

*Rimbo burns Republican Party membership card, starts to read "Das Kapital"*

Down with the bourgeois pigs! THE EVIL CORPORATISTS MUST FALL!!!

*shakes head*

Shit, sorry, I don't know what came over me there... *twitch, twitch*

How is that different? (2)

SuperKendall (25149) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209385)

pre-teens and older seems to me to totally overlap older teens and young adults, in fact a wider range...

Consider that one of the launch titles for the Gamecube is an amazing Star Wars:Rogue Squadron game. I'm past my 20's but I'm pre-ordering a Gamecube just for that - very targeted at the exact people who might be buying an XBox.I think advertising will really define who will come up on top - it's a matter of Nintendo convincing as wide an audience as possible to buy thier system, and Microsoft convincing as many people as possible that the new system has something great to offer.

Of course, it will also be interesting to see what Sony does at the same time - will they sit silent and let Nintendo and MS beat on each other? Will they come out with a series of ads touting impressive new games like GT3 and MGS2 to try and steal some thunder?

And the final question - will anyone have spare money at the end of the year to buy new systems, or will they all fall flat?

Re:How is that different? (3, Funny)

Rimbo (139781) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209437)

And the final question - will anyone have spare money at the end of the year to buy new systems, or will they all fall flat?

Hey, that's what the $300 tax rebate is for, remember? :)

X-Box maybe... (2, Interesting)

Xerithane (13482) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209208)

But the GameCube will be better..
Sweet, sweet Mario Kart.

I think that the X-Box is going to be a disappointment to a lot of PC Gamers anyway. They're going to realize their new console is the same as the Dell high end gaming box. Granted, it's a lot cheaper and has the TV out why the duplication? I'd be willing to bet that within a year of the release Microsoft will release the "XBox Center" or some other snazzy marketing name yielding the ability to play Xbox games on your PC.

One word (2)

Pope (17780) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209340)

Halo. [bungie.org]

Re:One word (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209400)

How True.
Halo was a PC title, but, as I understand it, Bungie was bought by Microsoft in the process of developing the game, then told to make it X-Box only.
So if Microsoft forces good gaming companies to make X-Box only games, then X-Box could dominate the console market...

Re:One word (2)

Xerithane (13482) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209440)

Any good gaming company wont get forced by Microsoft to make them X-Box only. They still can do the PC (Windows based) market. Granted Microsoft can make their life difficult but as long as Microsoft is selling licenses for the SDK and boot sector on the CDs (I'm assuming XBox is running the modified wince (ouch) that Dreamcast was supposed to ship with) and they are selling licenses for their Windows based gaming platforms they're happy.


It's a lot better for them to sell one XBox dev package + one Win dev package than only one or the other. I can imagine a lot of the people are going to buy both the console and PC version of the game.

Re:One word (2)

SuiteSisterMary (123932) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209464)

The DC did ship with WinCE. Or, more to the point, developers had the ability to use it.

Consoles don't have an OS hardwired in; the OS boots when you put in the boot medium. On the DC, you could use, for lack of a better term, dcOS, or WinCE for Dreamcast. Whatever you burned to your CD would boot. and, say, DOA2 would use a later version of dcOS than Soul Calibur, cuz it came out later.

WinCE for DC made for easy porting. One that leaps to mind is Virtua Cop (2, I think.)

Re:One word (2)

sammy baby (14909) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209451)

This isn't precisely true.

According to Bungie [bungie.org] , Halo will debut on the X-Box before being ported to both the PC and Mac. In fact, the first time most of us saw footage from the game was when it was shocased at Macworld.

Re:One word (2)

iCEBaLM (34905) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209435)

At the time the graphics in halo, when they were first shown, were absolutely stunning, cutting edge and amazing considering at the time I had a Voodoo 2.

Now I get better graphics than Halo on my Radeon with games which are already out. Looking at these screen shots again, they look horribly jagged. I think bungie missed the boat on this one.

-- iCEBaLM

Re:One word (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209444)

Uhm, why does Bungie have an org domain?

Re:X-Box maybe... (2)

AndrewHowe (60826) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209456)

Given that Mario Kart 64 was pants, I don't know if extrapolating from that particular data point is a good idea. Super Mario Kart on the SNES, yes, awesome game.
Within a year of release? OK you're on. My pound to your dollar.

Re:X-Box maybe... (-1)

Pr0n K1ng (160688) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209473)

OMG! Don't forget Wave Race! And Sonic! Sega better make a Sonic for the Game Cube. Screw Sony!

You know somethings wrong when... (1)

acq3 (315236) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209214)

Microsoft is shipping not one thing on time, but TWO! and GameCube slips endangering the most successful console enterprise ever.

What's next MSDonald's?

Re:You know somethings wrong when... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209319)

I'll pass judgement at the end of the year. Microsoft won't release two things on time - I doubt they'll manage even one. They never have before. And a 13 day delay for Nintendo is hardly disastrous.

Too Bad (1)

Whyte Wolf (149388) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209216)

I'm dissapointed to hear this. I remember when the big two in consoles were Nintendo and Sega. I wasn't sorry to see Sega and its Dreamcast go, as I think the PS1 & PS2 just blew them out of the water, but I am sad to see Nintendo possibly losing the Gamecube to the Xbox. Microsoft is the 800 lb gorilla in almost every market it hits it seems, and if they get the jump on the 'cube, things could go badly for Nintendo methinks.

Here's hoping they make their street date and shipping numbers for march. I'l love to see Nintendo's 'cube sink the 'box.

Re:Too Bad (1)

CmdrMightyTaco (517355) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209282)

I'l love to see Nintendo's 'cube sink the 'box.

Why not let the game support decide which is the better box? Just more "If-it's-MS,-it's-gotta-be-bad" rhetoric on slashdot. It's called objectivity, people. Let the players decide what will be the better machine.

Re:Too Bad (1)

rash (83406) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209364)

Objectevity without regard for the past
is the same thing as being blind.

Re:Too Bad (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209410)

Short pithy bromides
are the same thing as drivel.

Whoa - IBM = cheapest? (3, Funny)

Brento (26177) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209217)

So let me get this straight: at launch time, the Sony one will still be $299, the Microsoft one will be $299, and the Nintendo one will be $199?!? That's got to be the first time in history that the box with the IBM logo had the lowest price.

And on another note, I think this'll change that old slogan, "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM." I think if I expensed one of these, I'd have a hard time passing it off as an IBM part.

Re:Whoa - IBM = cheapest? (1)

Darth Yoshi (91228) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209288)

So let me get this straight: at launch time, the Sony one will still be $299, ...

There's a rumor that Sony will cut the price of the PS2 by $50 to $100 sometime before the X-box release. I wouldn't be surprised.

Re:Whoa - IBM = cheapest? (1)

Jonny Ringo (444580) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209298)

Not the cheapest. With about the same quality and a ton more games. I would rather own a dream cast. You can get them now for $79.99 [amazon.com]

Dreamcast Release Schedule (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209460)

[OT questions] (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209221)

Hey... how can I view the statistics and other data of the Anonymous Coward "account"? Go to users.pl and then... what?

And what's up with the comic book poll, it has only a couple hundred votes and no possibility for discussion! Surely Slash2.2 didn't take that feature away?

And finally, how the hell does one go about viewing (parts of) the submission queue or posting to stories not yet on the main page?

Thank in advance, asking what many want to know,

- a curious AC.

PS: I was hitting reload when the gamecube story came up, and when I hit "Read more", I just got a page saying "Nothing for you to see here. Please move along." Did Slashdot spot the constant reloading or what the hell is going on???

IBM logo on gaming machine? (1)

SpanishInquisition (127269) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209226)

What's next, game programming in COBOL?

Re:IBM logo on gaming machine? (1)

jeffy124 (453342) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209373)

you must mean PL/I, which was developed by IBM. COBOL was something that came mostly out the mind of Admiral Grace Hopper of the Navy.

Re:IBM logo on gaming machine? (1)

SpanishInquisition (127269) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209401)

I know that, but do you know a lot of people who code in PL/1 these days? COBOL is still actively used (that's what the media said about Y2K) and is run mainly on "Big Iron" mainframes like IBM.

They need the two weeks.... (3, Funny)

MatrixManiac (448609) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209228)

To put the IBM labels on!!

"We canna stick any faster Captain!"

IBM and Geeks (2, Funny)

geekoid (135745) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209242)

Clearly IBM believes that todays geeks will be the decsion makers of tomorrow.

A billion dollars in Linux research, now console gaming, what next,a /390 quake server?

No (2)

wiredog (43288) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209310)

A beowulf cluster of /390 quake servers...

Know what I hate most about this... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209244)

Is that fact that Trollaxor doesn't come around with those awesome anagram stories!!


Where the hell are you?!?!

Egg on face (1)

goul (41924) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209245)

This is the same Nintendo that announced that "Gamecube will definitely launch on schedule" [consolewire.com] , and at the same time suggested Microsoft would slip the Xbox "Microsoft has announced Nov. 8 as its launch date, but I don't think that's final.". I guess this means that its launching 10 days after the Xbox unless Microsft have some further announcements.

Those of us in Europe have to wait until next year anyway.......

WARNING: GOATSE LINK (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209329)

"Don't click on that link! That's enough goatse to turn you all into perl programmers for the next 400 years!"

a month and a half of a buffer left... (1)

mastorrent (515941) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209256)

Well, at least they're coming out before Christmas, but, considering the way PS2s sold out and Tickle Me Elmos flew off the shelves, its very likely that Toys 'R Us will run out of stock and desparate buyers will have to start buying for $50,000+ on eBay :P

Re:a month and a half of a buffer left... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209308)

well, let's see the tradeoffs for two IBM products. the game cube at $50k or an S390 for $500k. I think I'll get my 14 year old neabor an S390 for christmass...

Re:a month and a half of a buffer left... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209428)

Actually, predictions are for one of the slowest Christmas shopping seasons in a decade or more.

So perhaps the slim marketplace will kill off both consoles.

Re:a month and a half of a buffer left... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209462)

Heh, and just receiving the box :-)

Christ (1)

Bob McCown (8411) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209257)

Does anyone remember this article where Nintendo Executive Vice President, Peter Main, said '...Microsoft has announced November 8th as their launch date, but I don't think that's final. The GameCube will definitely launch on schedule though...'

From whining like this its pretty obvious that many /.otters havent worked on large scale, combined HW/SW projects. Ive rarely seen anything that needed both a box, and the software to go in it, ship on time. Would you rather they hit the date with a piece of crap, or a great product a few weeks late?

Re:Christ (1)

DahGhostfacedFiddlah (470393) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209398)

Ive rarely seen anything that needed both a box, and the software to go in it, ship on time.

Hmmmm...if they rarely ship on time, perhaps they should be firing the people who come up with these shipping dates. You'd think 20 years of experience might give 'em a little hint on how to schedule. At least let people know it's a "tentative" release date, rather than using the phrase definitely launch on schedule. Why not pad the schedule, and give gamers a pleasant surprise if they happen to get it done early?

Why, oh why? (0, Troll)

CmdrMightyTaco (517355) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209262)

I believe I submitted a story suggestion this morning about the IBM/Nintendo tie-in... Friggin slashdorks...
Just venting my sour grapes... I'll get over it.

Gamecube delay will not help Xbox (2)

Junks Jerzey (54586) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209267)

There are some big name, system-selling games for the Gamecube, most notably the latest Mario and Zelda titles. Nintendo showed only a few games at this past E3, but they were winners. I'd consider buying a Gamecube just to play them.

Microsoft, well, they don't have much that's exciting game-wise, even if they do have the "better" hardware. Their showing at E3 turned off many people to the Xbox. There are some long awaited vaporware products, like Halo, but they could easily turn out to be not worth the wait (as is happening so often these days with games in development for three or more years).

Re:Gamecube delay will not help Xbox (1)

J.A. Lizzi (466204) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209317)

Anyone who thinks you won't be able to d/l an emulator of some sort to play XBox games on your PC, raise your hands.

I thought so.

In fact, other than a few very system-specific calls, the only reason you'd even *need* an emulator is to decode the disc protection. After all, XBox games are supposed to be almost completely DiretX 8 compat. Since the GeForce3 was based on the XBox chip, that means the only piece of hardware (outside of the controllers, duh) that is "Xbox-specific" is the sound chip.

Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft themselves were planning on releasing an emulator a year or two after launch... (and charging $150 for it, of course)

Outside of the ridiculous price for the XBox, this is probably the main reason I'm not going to pick one up. I figure it'll take maybe 3 or 4 months before I'm playing the games on my computer, anyway.

Re:Gamecube delay will not help Xbox (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209443)

Gameplay on a generic PC clone will be substandard at best.

The whole thrust of X-Box is to allow game developers to code tight high performance games for a single platform, using the 'mainstream' Microsoft APIs.

Arg! Not Again! (1)

J.A. Lizzi (466204) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209268)

Obviously, Nintendo realized that it would be better if people could buy several games within the first week, as opposed to just 2. (Wave Race and Luigi.) So it got pushed back. Again.

I'm not happy about it in the least, but since I think Luigi's Mansion looks far too simplistic for my taste, I suppose I can live with it. (Better than only being able to play "Wave Race" for 2 straight weeks...)

I *so* want Rogue Squadran 2 and Eternal Darkness as soon as they come out...

Your thoughts: (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209377)

Nobody cares.

Please die.

Idiot.

Good things come to those who wait. (1)

Uttles (324447) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209279)

I don't care if they pushed the release back to November 2002, I'm still waiting on the GameCube. Nintendo is and will always be the best video game console company. N64 was screwed by the 3rd party support dropoff, GameCube will blow everyone else out of the water.

Re:Good things come to those who wait. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209346)

N64 was screwed by the 3rd party support dropoff


You can't blame the 3rd parties for that. Nintendo had their "dream teams", remember, and wouldn't let other 3rd parties near the damn thing until after it launched. They screwed the developers, and ended up screwing themselves.


It remains to be seen if they do the same for GameCube. Nintendo are the worst company at supporting 3rd-party developers.

Nintendo's Launch Delays (1)

TrollMan 5000 (454685) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209280)

They build up the hype surrounding the product. It woked for the Nintendo 64, didn't it?

Why buying a Cube or PS2?? (1)

s2r (461076) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209289)

Why are you guys willing to buy those boxes to run MAME??

I still got my Atari 2000 to play with.

Re:Why buying a Cube or PS2?? (1)

TrollMan 5000 (454685) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209382)

People don't buy systems for the OS, they buy it for good games. I couldn't care less wht it runs, just as long it runs well. (no glitches or major lag)

PFP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209294)

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Re:PFP! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209424)

P s e u d o f i r s t p o s t !

Outta curiosity...why do the bolded letters spell "Pufso"? Some sort of children's cartoon character I was unaware of?

Oh my! (1)

Jayde Stargunner (207280) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209297)

Nintendo miss a lauch date?? That could *never* happen. ;-)

*L* Really nothing to worry about, as this is normal for Nintendo.. I guess we can just thank our lucky stars that it was only a few weeks instead of a few years, eh?

(And for those who don't know, the Nintendo64 was in development for a little over 4 years...)

Now for the required questions. (1)

Midnight Thunder (17205) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209300)

Now for the required questions:
  • Can you have a beowulf of those things?
  • When is Linux going to be running on the GameCube?
Hmm, just imagine the next Big Blue will be a Borg Cluster, er, I mean GameCube cluster.

okay my karma is too high, I need to mod myself down a bit

Metroid (2)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209305)

As long as Metroid is still going to be GameCube only, the delay shouldn't affect sales.

Mmmmmm.... Metroid.....

Re:Metroid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209411)

If I remember right hasn't every Nintendo console to date that had a metroid on it been the dominate console in its class (the only ones that didn't have a metroid were N64 and virtual boy, and well one of those made my eyes hurt just to use it and the other seemed to lack any of the more mature games for the most part (you can guess which one is which )) Since there is a metroid going to be on the game cube it will probubly be successful. Not to mention Sega is doing games for the GameCube also. Prohaps GameCube will win out after all. (not to be biased, but when was the last time M$ did something right the first time it was released)

Re:Metroid (1)

bribecka (176328) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209461)

If I remember right hasn't every Nintendo console to date that had a metroid on it been the dominate console in its class

Not sure if Metroid was on SNES, but even if it was I think Genesis was the ruling party then.

Re:Metroid (1)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209418)

you just like the part where her clothes come off and you see her boobs :) perv

Re:Metroid (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209450)

What, do you think I'm some nerd that likes watching overly busty woman taking off armor to expose themselves?

Hehehehe... yup... ya caught me :-P

Re:Metroid (1)

donglekey (124433) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209434)

Mmmm metroid prime. Mmmmm gamecube goodness.

K-Mart (1)

Alien54 (180860) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209315)

I don't know.

Somehow I like the idea of Microsoft being associated with K-Mart.

Microsoft, the Trailer Park of Software.

just a personal thing.

This opinion is not necessarily based in reality. But it could be.

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Re: the truth about malda (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209320)

You should mirror that site before your post is deleted and it's "accidentally" slashdotted by Malda.

-- The_Messenger

Re: the truth about malda (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209378)

IF I EVER MEET YOU, I WILL KICK YOUR ASS!
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Alec Muzzy? What does he know? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209322)

I mean come on, he looks like that guy from Fargo [mutated.com] .

Is this a big deal? (2, Insightful)

cnkeller (181482) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209324)

The launch date was not the same date you could by this beast in a store. So in reality, it's only slipping by seven to ten days.

On the other side of the coin, does this matter? How many people are of the opinion "I gots to get me a next generation game system now! I don't care which it is. Whoever is first to market gets my money."

The reality of the situation is that if you were going to get an Xbox, you're still going to. If you were getting a Cube, you're still going to, just a week later. In this type of situation, first to market by a few days means very little.

Re:Is this a big deal? (1)

newbiescum (190145) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209359)

I thought launch dates were the dates you could buy them in the store. I know it didn't happen with the Gameboy Advance in Best Buy, CompUSA, and Circuit City since they delayed till like the following Wednesday, but most other stores I thought were selling them like mad.

And I think this does matter, but not as big of a deal as many people will make it out to be. Impulsive buyers do have some affect on sales though. GC will still be a hot seller, and will quite possibly sell out. It would be funny if GC outsells X-Box because they'll have more shipments ready to go, but its all up in the air.

This is no problem at all. (1)

Jim42688 (445645) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209338)

This isn't a problem for Nintendo at all. Disregarding the rumors of a Xbox delay, most everyone has an idea of what console they want, and nobody will change their decision based on a two week delay. However, this could affect Christmas sales if parents want to get their kids a console, and want to get the one that comes out first (which wouldn't make too much sense anyway, because it would be two months till christmas at that point)

I predict.... (1)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209347)

that in the next 18 months, M$ will see that it needs to do somthing to take out the competeing consoles, so it will beging to give away its x-box when you buy 3 or more M$ brand Games.

this is an important market for M$ as they need to control the game consloe market inroder to undermine the OEMs as they will begin to ship Xboxs the will be capable of hooking up to a Highspeed access point, have bootable Rom that will access M$ servers to bring up win2020 that will be totaly web based and subscription based.
this way they will control the web, tthe content, and peoples minds so that bill gates can take over the world!!!!

It could happen.

reason for the delay (1)

localmooer (266170) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209348)

"Our industry has learned the dangers of arriving at a launch party without enough gifts," said executive vice president of sales and marketing for the company, Peter Main. "By increasing our day one shipments to almost three-quarters of a million, we not only should come close to meeting total demand at launch, but also assure virtually uninterrupted restocking through the holiday season."

See- the reason for the delay is simply to have more units at launch (700k as opposed to 500k)

700,000 units at launch (1)

red_dragon (1761) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209362)

The same story appeared earlier today on this Register article [theregister.co.uk] , where it is mentioned that Nintendo plans on having 700,000 'Cubes ready for launch, instead of 500,000. In fact, Nintendo plays this up in this announcement [nintendo.com] on their web site, while skillfully avoiding mentioning the delay.

PowerPC inside (2)

option8 (16509) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209363)

from the article linked:
"Its PowerPC
chips run devices ranging from
television set-top boxes to mobile
phones."

which says nothing of the millions of Apple Macintosh computers the chips run as well (presuming this is the same PowerPC we're talking about.. it doesn't give model numbers).. does this mean all new Macs will have this "IBM Technology" logo on them, too? since they went to translucent plastic, the PowerPC logo has been absent

nor does it mention anything about the fact that the chip is derived from the Power family of RISC chip designs, intended for use in IBM servers... or that the platform was co-developed by motorola for the desktop and embedded markets.

i just thought i'd add my 2 cents (3 cents canadian) to the obviously lacking fluff on C|Net

--hey! where's my sig?

Re:PowerPC inside (2)

Jeffrey Baker (6191) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209392)

Apple doesn't source the PowerPC exclusively from IBM. All the G4s come from Motorola.

Re:PowerPC inside (2)

ivan256 (17499) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209446)

IBM and Motorola are competitors in the PowerPC market. C|Net was obviously just parroting the press release. Why would IBM mention their competitor?

Re:PowerPC inside (1)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209453)

powerpc is a chip archetecture, not a brand, its like saying x86. moterola is apples only supplier (I would suspect for certain historical reasons)
IBM uses thiers in network appliences like routers and swithches as well as sells them to cell companies and such, the came console is just another piece of hardware using IBM parts.

but the day that an Apple says IBM on it is the day Jobs walks away and becomes a monk in a tibetan monistary (which is never, but if it did, I bet he would do just that :))

Re:PowerPC inside (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209465)

All the listed devices have an "IBM Technology" label. Unless Macs get this label they probably will not get the plug.

Logo Added?? (4, Funny)

WebMasterJoe (253077) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209393)

I was hoping they meant the cool little game with the turtle and the "go 25 / right 90" commands... drats.

This is a good thing (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209395)

If I am figuring my budget right I can now buy an extra controller and another game with the extra two weeks of money that I will have built up :)

Can't wait but I guess I will.

Launch Dates are irrelevant (1)

Cryptimus (243846) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209405)

I doubt Gamecube's slippage is going to make any difference to unit sales. Nintendo's main strengths have always been Shigeru Miyamato's launch titles and sheer marketing power.

They screwed up with the N64 by choosing cartridge media instead of CD's. That single decision cost them more than any other event in their company's history. It essentially gave the mid-late 90's to Sony.

PlayStation 2's aren't doing stunningly well by any means. Last I heard Mickeysoft still hasn't come up with a comprehensive online strategy for the X-Box. Given their inability to cope with security issues, I can see why. That hard disk is a nice fat target for anyone with a Mickeysoft grudge and some time. The fallout from a successful mass hack would be intense.

The world has moved on since the X-Box announcement. In a year, the X-Box is going to start hitting the low-end edge of the PC curve. Newer graphics tech will make it look old. Sure it has the total lack of configuration issues common to all consoles, but Sony and Nintendo have got the games.

And those Japanese dudes do know how to design console games.

And seriously. Does anyone want to play Halo with that X-Box controller instead of mouse and keyboard? I think I'll pass.

Of course it may become more attractive if Nvidia keeps X-Box and higher level graphics chipsets at an unreasonably high price. (Hmm... Mickeysoft leverage the best chipsets in the business and prevent consumers from buying competing tech in one fell swoop?)

But then... they wouldn't do that... would they?

Nintendo/GameCube and Unix (1)

Mark Bainter (2222) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209407)

While I think the PS/2 is pretty awesome and will certainly be purchasing one at some point, I will be making a point of purchasing a GameCube as well. Nintendo has made a very smart decision in choosing not to try and do everything. They've chosen the path that has made unix tools so great. They are going to do one thing and do it well. That's produce an entertainment console and great games, instead of pretty much making a PC and selling it as a computer. They are focusing on what they know and I applaud that.

Ballmer video explained (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2209427)

here. [bbspot.com]

Ports and distros? (1)

4mn0t1337 (446316) | more than 12 years ago | (#2209439)

From the article:
IBM's PowerPC processor will be the engine for the console

Does this mean that people can start porting LinuxPPC to it? Or how about Mandrake Lite(tm)?

(Not-at-all)Seriously, the PS2 people shouldn't be the only gamers with an alt OS...

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