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Apple Launches CarPlay At Geneva Show

samzenpus posted about 7 months ago | from the drive-differently dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Apple announced today a system called CarPlay, which integrates your iPhone with your car, with Siri voice control. CarPlay will be offered in Ferrari, Mercedes-Benz and Volvo vehicles this year, and others 'down the road.' From the press release: 'CarPlay makes driving directions more intuitive by working with Maps to anticipate destinations based on recent trips via contacts, emails or texts, and provides routing instructions, traffic conditions and ETA. You can also simply ask Siri and receive spoken turn-by-turn directions, along with Maps, which will appear on your car’s built-in display.'

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This sounds like accidents waiting to happen (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | about 7 months ago | (#46388771)

Siri, do a Heads Up Display and flash my strobe lights at oncoming cars so they crash.

Where is that exit *SMASH* oh.

Re:This sounds like accidents waiting to happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46388941)

What, no iPad Mini handlebar mount for the two-wheelers?

Re:This sounds like accidents waiting to happen (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | about 7 months ago | (#46389159)

No, the two wheelers use an iPhone 5c.

Unless you have a sidecar, then you can get the iPad Mini

Re:This sounds like accidents waiting to happen (1)

SJHillman (1966756) | about 7 months ago | (#46389123)

I'm pretty sure Lexus already has the patent on that. At least, that's what it feels like dealing with Lexus drivers sometimes...

Re:This sounds like accidents waiting to happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46389217)

Conservatives don't like Apple.

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/20... [cnn.com]

Re:This sounds like accidents waiting to happen (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46389285)

Don't believe the propaganda - most conservatives support Apple's stand to do what they want as part of a corporation's rights. It's fascinating that the same news sources LOL'ing about this are silent about Apple continuing to use "slave labor" in China.

Now frankly, as a stockholder, I'd prefer that he'd work on getting Apple's diminishing marketshare issues resolved first before the Jobs Reality Distortion Effect finally wears off before spending time on green issues otherwise the green issues are kinda moot... but that's just me.

Innovation? (4, Insightful)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 7 months ago | (#46388779)

Apple seems to have invented what a lot of people have been using for years - a head unit with MirrorLink capability. How come it is suddenly wonderful?

Re:Innovation? (2)

NapalmV (1934294) | about 7 months ago | (#46388801)

Because now you'll have to pay AT&T monthly in order to use it or the GPS. It's good for the economy!!!

Re:Innovation? (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | about 7 months ago | (#46388817)

Because now you'll have to pay AT&T monthly in order to use it or the GPS. It's good for the economy!!!

Yes but the owners of that stock tend to be Saudis.

and don't even thing about roaming and yes fringe (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 7 months ago | (#46388903)

fringe roaming as well where you don't have to leave the USA but you do pay the $20 a meg fee.

Re: and don't even thing about roaming and yes fri (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46389039)

Don't get me started. AT&T didn't end up charging me, but threatened to disconnect me for going over the roaming cap while I was in Yellowstone...while my phone displayed that it was on AT&T's network. They had to send some sort of network update to my iPhone, claiming customers preferred to see the AT&T logo while roaming until they hit the cap, of some such bs.

Re:Innovation? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46388881)

But rich Republicans wont' flood Apple with money for MirrorLink. With this newest CONservative scam, they know they'll get even more disgustingly rich. Then the sheep in the middle that aren't smart enough to be progressive will follow with giving truckloads more cash to Apple because the people that control them did it, and they want to be like them. The circle of taking money from the poor to give to a small entitled group is disgusting.

Re:Innovation? (0)

the_B0fh (208483) | about 7 months ago | (#46389061)

And it's different with Android how? Or will Windows Phone solve this problem?

Re:Innovation? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46389469)

Taking money from the poor to give to who? What the fuck are you talking about?

Re:Innovation? (4, Insightful)

Black.Shuck (704538) | about 7 months ago | (#46389003)

Innovation != Invention

innovate |nvet|
verb [ no obj. ]
make changes in something established, especially by introducing new methods, ideas, or products: the company's failure to diversify and innovate competitively.
  [ with obj. ] introduce (something new, especially a product). we continue to innovate new products.

So yes, Apple innovates. They innovate on the execution of ideas, rather than invent new ones.

Re:Innovation? (1, Insightful)

Ralph Wiggam (22354) | about 7 months ago | (#46389025)

For the past decade, Apple has been showing off 2 year old technology wrapped in a fancy new package and declaring it cutting edge innovation. Steve Jobs had enough charisma to make people believe it. Tim Cook does not.

Re: Innovation? (1)

Scowler (667000) | about 7 months ago | (#46389197)

Innovation isn't just coming up with new technology, it also includes making that technology easy to use and accessible through new products. I understand the point you are trying to make, that Apple shouldn't be lauded for every minor evolutionary change in product lineup, but your choice of words was unfortunate.

Re:Innovation? (4, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 7 months ago | (#46389297)

Fancy new package to you has at times meant UI that consumers will accept to others. Take for example the first MP3 players. You could only get high capacity and bulky or portable but low capacity when the iPod came out. The interfaces sucked and getting music onto them was a pain in the ass. What Apple did with the iPod, anyone could have done; they just didn't. But as a geek, you may not care about ease of use as a feature. Consumers care.

Re:Innovation? (3, Insightful)

HornWumpus (783565) | about 7 months ago | (#46389543)

Ironic, considering what a pain in the ass it is to get music onto an iPod.

UGH, you people just don't get it. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46389355)

first. A good Idea is a good idea. but it's how you take it to market. the devil is in the details. and apple is good at making high quality, refined products, thus.. they sell well. if you see a problem with that you don't understand business.

Second. Even if they did no innovation at all, and simply made a high quality product. what is wrong with that? The very idea you have issue with that( and they do innovate so it's beside the point) but even if they didn't it shows a clear bias.

Re:Innovation? (4, Informative)

maccodemonkey (1438585) | about 7 months ago | (#46389359)

Apple seems to have invented what a lot of people have been using for years - a head unit with MirrorLink capability. How come it is suddenly wonderful?

Eh, there's an argument for functionality, but on a technical level, it's actually pretty cool. It's actually a second screen capability, not a mirroring capability. Apps using the API get to use the car display as a discreet second display, rendering whatever content they want dedicated to that display.

Re:Innovation? (2)

swb (14022) | about 7 months ago | (#46389489)

How widely supported is MirrorLink by handset makers?

The MirrorLink consortium list of smartphones only returns one Samsung and a whole lot of Nokia and Sony models.

How about car makers? The way auto makers integrate car functionality into infotainment units makes it complicated-to-impossible to add aftermarket units to cars. Aftermarket head units aren't good enough.

Personally, I'm a little disappointed with Apple's system. First, it's not wireless, and second, it doesn't give me the ability to see arbitrary apps on my display. I sometimes drive up to 500 miles for projects and its nice to be able to look at a radar map if the sky turns dark or the weather is bad.

I'm not in the market for a new car, so little of this matters now. I could just as easily get all of this with an iPad mini and an aux plug now.

Apple Maps! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46388791)

Apple Maps! Just what I always wanted!

Re:Apple Maps! (3, Informative)

Wild_dog! (98536) | about 7 months ago | (#46388937)

Perhaps in the past Apple Maps was bad.
In the last couple of months I have been using Apple Maps and there haven't been any major problems I have noticed.
It is nice to be able to use Siri to find things while I am whizzing along in places I am unfamiliar with.
Turn by turn has been accurate in my area at least.

Re:Apple Maps! (0)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 7 months ago | (#46389403)

So they finally caught up to where everyone else was 5 years ago. It says a lot that the highest praise anyone is offering is that Apple Maps is now quite adequate. Also, add the standard note about anecdotes being worthless, especially when talking about using a map in an area you already know.

Re:Apple Maps! (2)

Wild_dog! (98536) | about 7 months ago | (#46389475)

Did I say adequate?
Seems to be the same as Google Maps roughly so perhaps not the same as everyone else 5 years ago. Basically the same as other options currently would be more accurate. unless all options are basically technologically backward by 5 years.

Did I say I was using Maps where I normally go?
I haven't had problems with Maps being wonky in places I don't normally go. Haven't missed a step and that is all anyone can hope unless I expect Maps to teleport me to where I want to go. That would be a nice new feature.

Perhaps your experiential anecdote varies.

Great ... (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46388793)

CarPlay makes driving directions more intuitive by working with Maps to anticipate destinations based on recent trips via contacts, emails or texts, and provides routing instructions, traffic conditions and ETA

So now Apple will know everything you do, and that information will be accessed in secret by the spy agencies to know everywhere you've been and why.

Technology is ruining our lives.

Re:Great ... (1)

Wild_dog! (98536) | about 7 months ago | (#46388959)

"Technology is ruining our lives."
Says the AC who is using technology to post on an article about technology on a technology geek site hahahaha

Re:Great ... (1)

Algae_94 (2017070) | about 7 months ago | (#46389295)

Exactly, his life has been ruined. He's posting on /., how much worse can he get?

darn. (0)

Polo (30659) | about 7 months ago | (#46388797)

"To activate Siri voice control, just press and hold the voice control button on the steering wheel."

My pet peeve. For Siri, why can't we just press it without the holding part? Come on, I'm driving here.

Re:darn. (1)

Jabrwock (985861) | about 7 months ago | (#46388841)

Oh the humanity. Having to hold a button for a second with your thumb. Without having to take it off the wheel. At all.

As opposed to every other navigation system, some of which even make you use a mouse-type controller on the dash to browse through the myriad of available controls.

Re:darn. (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about 7 months ago | (#46388961)

Oh the humanity. Having to hold a button for a second with your thumb. Without having to take it off the wheel. At all.

So? It can still be easily made to be just pressed instead of being held. The question is only of which one provides better usability and safety.

Re:darn. (3, Informative)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 7 months ago | (#46389333)

Oh the humanity. Having to hold a button for a second with your thumb. Without having to take it off the wheel. At all.

.

You might be surprised as to how much "road attention" you lose performing such a simple maneuver. Anecdotally, I once totaled a Buick because I took my eyes off the road for .5 seconds to check the clock. Long story (chock full of statistics and more anecdotes) short, while your brain is on pause waiting for Siri to respond to that button hold, it's not paying full attention to the task at hand, namely operating a ton-and-a-half of steel and glass at high rates of speed.

As opposed to every other navigation system...

Nonsense hyperbole, and smacks loudly of fanboy-ism.

My wife's VW has a single button on the steering wheel that activates the voice command system, and it's the same system VW has been using for half a decade. Oh, and BTW, you only have to press the button, not hold it. Works as well as one would expect a voice command system to. And I know VW can't be the only one with such a simple interface - Ford's Sync [ford.com] immediately comes to mind.

Re:darn. (2)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 7 months ago | (#46388947)

To reduce the number of accidental touches on a part of the car that is touched a lot? My bluetooth controls requires a small hold.

Re:darn. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46389313)

To reduce the number of accidental touches on a part of the car that is touched a lot? My bluetooth controls requires a small hold.

When did you start calling your cock "bluetooth controls"?

Re:darn. (1)

slapout (93640) | about 7 months ago | (#46388957)

Well, you could just say "OK Google". Oh wait

Re:darn. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46388977)

How long do you think you need to hold it that it's something worth complaining about? Seriously. You press and hold for about a second or two just to prevent accidental presses from activating it - it's a deliberate "I have pressed this button" length of time, not a "the entire time I'm interacting with it I have to keep the button pressed."

Blows my mind to see this complaint being modded up but I guess the anti-Apple shills need to find anything possible to complain about...

So will it be patchable through your phone? (1)

Jabrwock (985861) | about 7 months ago | (#46388799)

So will it be patchable through your phone, or will it severely lag behind phone development, like every other "Car OS" we've seen so far...

Re:So will it be patchable through your phone? (0)

NapalmV (1934294) | about 7 months ago | (#46388825)

Mhh how about Apple changing the iPhone connector once more? Yehaaaw your Mercedes is now obsolete lol. Let's do it, "it's good for the economy" (TM).

Re:So will it be patchable through your phone? (1)

Jabrwock (985861) | about 7 months ago | (#46388891)

Mhh how about Apple changing the iPhone connector once more? Yehaaaw your Mercedes is now obsolete lol. Let's do it, "it's good for the economy" (TM).

Depends how they sync. If it's over USB, there are adapters. If it's over Bluetooth... it should still work.

Re: So will it be patchable through your phone? (1)

Scowler (667000) | about 7 months ago | (#46389335)

According to TFA, it is a wired connection requiring Lightning port on phone side, at least for first gen.

Re:So will it be patchable through your phone? (2, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 7 months ago | (#46388987)

If by "once more" you mean every 12 years or so, then yes. How many different USB ports have we seen in that time? Second, you are aware that there are these things called "adapters" which means that you don't have to throw away your car but rather get a new cable. Oh, the humanity.

Re:So will it be patchable through your phone? (2)

NapalmV (1934294) | about 7 months ago | (#46389063)

Which Apple phone uses a standard USB connector? Or are thinking to use a cable? An iPhone dock with a dangling cable? Just purrfect for a Ferrari, eh?

Re:So will it be patchable through your phone? (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 7 months ago | (#46389241)

You are aware that the other end of an Apple iPod/iPhone cable is a USB port, right? Have you seen how most car manufacturers handle factory iPod integration these days? It's a USB female port. If you hook up an Apple cable to an Apple device, it recognizes it and uses the iPod integration. If not, it is a USB charging port.

Re:So will it be patchable through your phone? (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 7 months ago | (#46389485)

It's actually worse than that because the software is Apple proprietary. In the past they have dropped backwards compatibility with things like HiFi units and cars with iPod docks after a few years. At least with MirrorLink the protocol should be supported indefinitely.

Re:So will it be patchable through your phone? (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 7 months ago | (#46389349)

Mhh how about Apple changing the iPhone connector once more? Yehaaaw your Mercedes is now obsolete lol. Let's do it, "it's good for the economy" (TM).

Not necessarily - the 2012 VW Jetta we bought came with an "iPod/iPhone connector" in the glovebox, which consists of a proprietary port and a dongle for the device itself; you can order dongles w/ different iConnectors from VW.

Of course, it begs the question: Who the hell puts their phone in the glovebox every time they get in the car, especially when said car also has a Bluetooth module?

Re:So will it be patchable through your phone? (2)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | about 7 months ago | (#46388833)

I'm just waiting for Clippy to pop up and say "I see you're having an accident. Would you like me to play a Funeral Dirge?"

Clippy? (1)

sjbe (173966) | about 7 months ago | (#46388849)

I'm just waiting for Clippy to pop up and say "I see you're having an accident. Would you like me to play a Funeral Dirge?"

On an Apple product? Seems unlikely... Perhaps on some other product [wikipedia.org] .

Re:Clippy? (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | about 7 months ago | (#46388915)

Don't be surprised. I got a request for donated Macs today that "should have Windows 7 on them".

Re:Clippy? (1)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 7 months ago | (#46388963)

I've got a Mac with Windows 7, XP, KDE and OS X on it. No problemo.

Gets a little confusing at times but it's very useful.

Re:So will it be patchable through your phone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46388893)

err....

so its an apple product, and your trying to be funny by mentioning clippy, from microsoft?

err... nice try dickweed

have you finished eating those 5 pizza's you ordered for dinner yet?

Re:So will it be patchable through your phone? (-1)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | about 7 months ago | (#46388935)

HAHHAHA!!! That's fucking HILARIOUS!! Micro$ucks!

clean the cheetos our of your neckbeard, you window-licking retard.

Re:So will it be patchable through your phone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46389041)

It's not a "Car OS" ... it's controlled by your phone. The car's head unit has its own OS which is separate from the phone. It just sends HID events to the phone, and the phone tells the car's head unit what to display.

innovation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46388811)

This is so innovative, that it MUST be Steve Jobs who invented this himself!

Re:innovation (2)

Wild_dog! (98536) | about 7 months ago | (#46389051)

I keep saying apple doesn't so much innovate as they take things that are already there, make them more appealing to consumers, and rake in profits.
I don't know why everyone says Apple needs to innovate they are doing fine without innovation really. Have been since Jobs went to Xerox-Parc and "innovated" the GUI and mouse for the first Mac.

Seeing how to re-package things that will make big time Money has become what Apple is really good at.

Re:innovation (-1, Flamebait)

Wild_dog! (98536) | about 7 months ago | (#46389091)

"Innovation != Invention

innovate |nvet|
verb [ no obj. ]
make changes in something established, especially by introducing new methods, ideas, or products: the company's failure to diversify and innovate competitively.
    [ with obj. ] introduce (something new, especially a product). we continue to innovate new products.

So yes, Apple innovates. They innovate on the execution of ideas, rather than invent new ones."

Hmmmm
I guess I have always thought of innovating as creating something entirely new. But I guess my definition of innovation is too narrow.
I suppose apple's innovation comes in the form of making already created items and giving them appeal to the masses.

Re:innovation (1)

spacepimp (664856) | about 7 months ago | (#46389099)

So how wildly popular and successful were they when Bill Gates had to loan them several hundred million to keep them as a competition? Seems like you are forgetting the years of PowerPC clones and when Steve was fired.

Re:innovation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46389251)

And now they are the wealthiest tech company on the planet. Your point?

Re:innovation (1)

Wild_dog! (98536) | about 7 months ago | (#46389283)

Not forgetting anything.
Apple struggled to recover from the onslaught of the more open PC market.
They removed Steve and brought in a corporate guy to remediate the situation.
Apple declined much more and they licensed their OS in hopes of turning things around which canibalized their sales.
They brought Steve Jobs back he has some more ideas after being out in the woods starting Next and Pixar.
They closed their OS licensing and shifted to consumer products instead of computers.

Apple has been on an upward trajectory ever since. and they seem to have a formula of taking what they see in the market, repackaging, and exploiting the targeted market. Seems like cars are the next domino. maybe home automation will be the next one.

Re:innovation (1)

spacepimp (664856) | about 7 months ago | (#46389535)

So what exactly was it that sent them to near bankruptcy in that era? successful innovation? or a lack thereof?

Re:innovation (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 7 months ago | (#46389319)

You're forgetting that Apple paid back Microsoft and surpassed them years ago as the wealthiest tech company.

Re:innovation (1)

spacepimp (664856) | about 7 months ago | (#46389463)

"I don't know why everyone says Apple needs to innovate they are doing fine without innovation really. Have been since Jobs went to Xerox-Parc and "innovated" the GUI and mouse for the first Mac."

Except for when they weren't doing just fine and were teetering on bankruptcy. People saying Apple needs to innovate are seeing the writing on the wall that once iPhones/iPads become stagnant like iPods and OS 9 did they will fail and fall quickly.

I was responding to a specific sentence. Reading that sentence and then reading my reply in context is part of communicating.

The sad part, IMO? (1)

King_TJ (85913) | about 7 months ago | (#46388851)

The 3 auto makers offering it first are all high-end luxury brands. That means the "early adopters" are the same people who have plenty of disposable income to have already purchased superior options.

(Personally, if I had they money to be driving around a Ferrari, I would already have a really nice custom stereo system in it, which would surely have a dedicated GPS system in it. Why get stuck in a situation where you can't find some place you need to get to, just because you accidentally left your phone at home or at work?)

This integration makes a lot of sense, but I think the people who will get the most out of it are the masses driving inexpensive economy cars, minivans, pickups, and mid priced sedans or sporty cars. (Again, the wealthy have the means to pay for "concierge" services by phone where they can make requests of a live operator who answers. Why settle for an automated system like Siri?)

Re:The sad part, IMO? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46388943)

Because Volvo and MB aren't exactly 'luxury' compared to Ferrari or Bentley or Rolls-Royce. A MB or Volvo is actually an option most anyone in tech could afford, and Volvo needs the boost for their brand.

What I find disturbing is the lack of the VW Group in the "down the road" manufacturer listing.

Re:The sad part, IMO? (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 7 months ago | (#46389009)

The 3 auto makers offering it first are all high-end luxury brands.

Well that's this week. Other manufacturers may premiere later. Having it in the car is another story. Who knows, GM might actually have it in their cars before these three.

It's not either/or (4, Informative)

sjbe (173966) | about 7 months ago | (#46389011)

The 3 auto makers offering it first are all high-end luxury brands.

Volvo cars aren't exactly priced in the stratosphere. Even their expensive offerings are still FAR cheaper than those from Mercedes and Ferrari. Volvo makes nice cars but they are mostly at the lower end of the luxury segment if you consider them a luxury vehicle at all.

Personally, if I had they money to be driving around a Ferrari, I would already have a really nice custom stereo system in it, which would surely have a dedicated GPS system in it.

A reasonable thing to do but why not have the option of layering on Siri or similar Android services in addition? I'd rather have the consumer electronics stuff handled by a consumer electronics company whenever possible. I have a GPS in my truck but it is woefully out of date, expensive and the graphics pretty much suck. Car companies are REALLY bad at updating firmware and they don't do enough product volume to get costs down to reasonable levels. When possible it makes a lot more sense to use something like a smartphone to handle many of these tasks.

(Again, the wealthy have the means to pay for "concierge" services by phone where they can make requests of a live operator who answers. Why settle for an automated system like Siri?)

Just because you have a bit more cash doesn't mean you want to spend it needlessly. Concierge services are expensive and most people who can afford a nice luxury vehicle didn't get their money by being frivolous with their cash. It's not an either/or proposition either. Personally I'd be more likely to use Siri (even with its deficiencies) than some high priced live service even if I had the money just because it would probably be an occasional use thing with me.

Re:It's not either/or (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 7 months ago | (#46389545)

Manufacturers are slowly getting better. Toyota's system is quite cheap and they give you 8 years of free map updates. Obviously the graphics will date quickly and there is a lot of crap like a weather app and twitter app, but it isn't nearly as bad as it used to be where your £2500 system would be a brick within a couple of years.

Ferrari, Mercedes, Volvo (0)

CurryCamel (2265886) | about 7 months ago | (#46388885)

Not being an Apple customer, these three car brands now seem less tempting. Irrational, I know - the car is still the same, but there the feeling sits. Who'd want to drive an applecart?

This is probably not going to affect the amount of Ferraris I purchase, to be honest.

Re:Ferrari, Mercedes, Volvo (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 7 months ago | (#46389095)

Well if you buy in 2014, then you can avoid Honda and Hyundai as well. Later on you may have to avoid [wordpress.com] BMW, Ford, General Motors, Jaguar Land Rover, Kia, Mitsubishi, Nissan, PSA, Subaru, Suzuki and Toyota, . . . basically you've got Renault,Fiat, China FAW, SAIC left then.

Re:Ferrari, Mercedes, Volvo (1)

CurryCamel (2265886) | about 7 months ago | (#46389449)

I don't understand why you'd list Hyundai to this. According to the truth table you posted, they have ticked all four boxes. Also seems I was too hasty about Volvo, but then that is Apple marketing for you :)

carplay? (0)

ganjadude (952775) | about 7 months ago | (#46388895)

Didnt apple make a big fuss about google using the term "appstore"?

so google changes the name to "googleplay"

Now Apple decides to use the term "carplay"??? Let me guess, now a new lawsuit on google for using the word "play"

Re:carplay? (1)

Jabrwock (985861) | about 7 months ago | (#46388923)

Didnt apple make a big fuss about google using the term "appstore"? so google changes the name to "googleplay" Now Apple decides to use the term "carplay"??? Let me guess, now a new lawsuit on google for using the word "play"

Can't argue you could confuse an "appstore" style online software download site with a car navigation system though. Apple at least had a smidgen of a legal argument over "appstore".

Re:carplay? (1)

ganjadude (952775) | about 7 months ago | (#46389035)

Frankly I dont see how you could confuse "appstore" as there are hundreds of "appstores" out there but I digress. I simply found it interesting they would use the word play after all that hoopla

Re:carplay? (1)

Wild_dog! (98536) | about 7 months ago | (#46389001)

Hilarious you made me laugh mod up Funny.but no mod points

Re:carplay? (1, Informative)

DaveOrZach (1002903) | about 7 months ago | (#46389023)

The CarPlay name is based on AirPlay [wikipedia.org] . Try trolling harder.

Maps? On a highway to hell... (1)

changeling (63865) | about 7 months ago | (#46388909)

::head desk::

Here are 2 reasons this is crap (0)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 7 months ago | (#46388921)

1. Apple maps is a joke and completely useless
2. considering how many people hate Apple, they're losing prospective customers for a $60,000 car for example because of one tiny feature.

This is going to bomb harder than any product I can think of recently.

Re:Here are 2 reasons this is crap (5, Insightful)

ColdWetDog (752185) | about 7 months ago | (#46389043)

First off all, most of the people who hate Apple are right here on your favorite website. Not exactly Ferrari / Volvo / Mercedes big customers.

Second of all, lots of people like (or at least tolerate) the Apple brand. Makes more sense than Ford attaching themselves to Microsoft.....

I think it's a dumb idea (and I have a lot of Apple hardware and software). I like my cars like I like my women - simple, easy to fix and not associated with a lot of proprietary add on junk that will out date in a couple of years. Upgrades are hell.

But that's just me.

Not exactly Ferrari / Volvo / Mercedes big custom (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46389327)

First off all, most of the people who hate Apple are right here on your favorite website. Not exactly Ferrari / Volvo / Mercedes big customers.

And they wouldn't be "Ferrari / Volvo / Mercedes big customers" because? Tech workers don't exactly pull in Walmart employee salaries.

A more practical response is that CarPlay will likely be an *option* on Ferrari / Volvo / Mercedes cars. If you haven't drunk the Apple kool-aid and want something else, you'll likely pass on this option and go for one of the other many non-Apple options that have currently existed for years. As such, this announcement has little relevance for the tech savy Slashdot community.

Re: Not exactly Ferrari / Volvo / Mercedes big cu (1)

Scowler (667000) | about 7 months ago | (#46389471)

What makes you think adding the CarPlay option precludes other options from also being functional? You think CarPlay is going to prevent Bluetooth from existing?

Re:Here are 2 reasons this is crap (1)

fulldecent (598482) | about 7 months ago | (#46389425)

>> I like my cars like I like my women...

Ready to go home with me and geared up to drive both ways... and not associated with a lot of proprietary add on junk that will out date in a couple of years

Re:Here are 2 reasons this is crap (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46389057)

2. considering how many people hate Apple

Only the rabid drooling idiots in the tech industry.

they're losing prospective customers for a $60,000 car for example because of one tiny feature.

It's a feature you don't need to use, and I suspect the number of people in the market for one of these cars AND who are rabid anti-Apple is pretty small.

Pretty much just rich douchebags in Silicon Valley -- and nobody gives a crap if they're butt hurt about something. Because they're just rich douchebags in Silicon Valley.

Re:Here are 2 reasons this is crap (1)

TyFoN (12980) | about 7 months ago | (#46389147)

There is one here.
I would never ever buy a car with apple in the dash, but I can afford these cars.

About 6/10 in my office has android phones, 2/10 has windows phones and the rest are on iphones. This is a bank in a country where iphone adoption is considered very high.
So unless they make it work with other devices, they lost a bunch of other potential customers that I know of too.

Re:Here are 2 reasons this is crap (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46389289)

I can afford these cars as well, Ferrari included, though I don't buy them. I've never paid more than $10k for a car, nor have I ever bought new. I work in a hospital and about 8/10 of phones here are iPhones, the rest are Android. Never seen a Windows phone.

Re: Here are 2 reasons this is crap (1)

Scowler (667000) | about 7 months ago | (#46389531)

Define "work with". Just about every new car supports Bluetooth Audio nowadays. You really think CarPlay is going to remove that functionality? You're really saying you'd avoid consideration of a car that has satisfactory integration features with the phone you own, but has advanced integration with a phone you don't own?

Re:Here are 2 reasons this is crap (1)

the_B0fh (208483) | about 7 months ago | (#46389093)

1) Because it had cosmetic issues (in USA anyway, I'm aware of the bad directions in Japan, etc) in the past, it is forever damned?
2) That's why their sales keep going down, right? And that's why they completely lose the user satisfaction surveys. Why, the iPads only came in on the #1 spot in South Korea in terms of user satisfaction. On Samsung's home turf... Oh my.

Re:Here are 2 reasons this is crap (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 7 months ago | (#46389139)

1. Apple maps is a joke and completely useless

The launch of iMaps was botched and it still has a ways to go, but it's not completely useless. The alternative for in-car navigation was it is may never be updated if the owner decides not to fork over money to buy a new navigation DVD.

2. considering how many people hate Apple, they're losing prospective customers for a $60,000 car for example because of one tiny feature.

You mean considering how many slashdot geeks hate Apple don't you? The general public likes Apple. Also, you are aware that many other car manufacturers are getting on board, right? It's the same as iPod integration: many of them offer it today, and there have not been riots in the streets over this feature.

Re:Here are 2 reasons this is crap (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 7 months ago | (#46389473)

1. Apple maps is a joke and completely useless

The launch of iMaps was botched and it still has a ways to go, but it's not completely useless. The alternative for in-car navigation was it is may never be updated if the owner decides not to fork over money to buy a new navigation DVD.

The alternative alternative would be people using Google Maps and/or Navigation, tying into the cars existing Bluetooth/aux in port, and not driving down private driveways insisting "this is the best route to Roundtop Mountain!!!" [yahoo.com]

2. considering how many people hate Apple, they're losing prospective customers for a $60,000 car for example because of one tiny feature.

You mean considering how many slashdot geeks hate Apple don't you? The general public likes Apple.

That sounds like fanboy talk to me. Corporate executives, government employees, and any other high-powered types who are already tied deeply to Blackberry might not care to pay extra for a feature they'll never use. How many people does Google employ? I bet they wouldn't care much for iPhone integration, either.

Point being, just because you can't fathom that there might be a subset of the population who aren't madly in love with a certain company's products doesn't mean the aforementioned subset doesn't exist.

Also, you are aware that many other car manufacturers are getting on board, right? It's the same as iPod integration: many of them offer it today, and there have not been riots in the streets over this feature.

For me, I wouldn't care if they put an iPlug hidden in the glovebox, but if using all the features of the $60,000 automobile I just bought means being locked into any proprietary ecosystem, I won't be spending my money with that car company.

Nobody goes there anymore. It's too crowded. (4, Interesting)

sjbe (173966) | about 7 months ago | (#46389505)

1. Apple maps is a joke and completely useless

Based on what? Yeah they flubbed the roll out but I've used it since and it mostly works fine. I'm guessing you are one of those people who read all the bad press and presumed that Apple would never fix the problem. Guess what? Over over 30 million [theguardian.com] people use Apple Maps mostly without problems. Apple Maps is certainly not a joke and anything but "completely useless". Your assertion is mostly without any basis to support it.

2. considering how many people hate Apple, they're losing prospective customers for a $60,000 car for example because of one tiny feature.

Apple sells millions of devices a year and you think people "hate Apple"? Have you actually been to an Apple store lately? They are packed. Nobody buys Apple products because they have to. They are all discretionary purchases and people buy Apple's gear because they... gasp, LIKE the products. Who knew?

Maybe YOU don't like Apple but out here in the real world Apple is wildly popular.

Not Surprised (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46388929)

Already 14 comments from butthurt Fandroids because their precious Google hasn't entered the market.

Long live Slashdot Beta! Make it

Lock in (3, Interesting)

Barlo_Mung_42 (411228) | about 7 months ago | (#46388983)

I wouldn't buy a car that has this unless it also works with other phones.

I'm an apple fan and this is meh. (1)

shadowrat (1069614) | about 7 months ago | (#46388997)

I have a long history of pro apple posts. I'd just like to go on record saying this doesn't excite me at all. (neither does a watch)

Re:I'm an apple fan and this is meh. (1)

NMBob (772954) | about 7 months ago | (#46389235)

Yeah, I didn't quite grasp the big deal of it until the Volvo video. It's a nice way to keep the user interface from being crap, like it is on my Toyota. It'll be familiar and make some sense -- as long as it all doesn't look like iOS7 (just had to throw that in :). The watch thing? Agree. Meh. Oh wait...maybe you'll be able to check your vitals on you iOS In The Car display after an accident before they get the jaws of life fired up.

Mistress (2)

EMG at MU (1194965) | about 7 months ago | (#46389029)

If you have this you better hope you have nothing to hide from the other people who might be in your car.

Siri: "I see that you have received a text from Ms. Longlegs with the address for the Super 8 motel, would you like directions?"

Siri: "I noticed that your most frequent destination is: Woody's Rub and Tug, would you like directions? Shall I make a reservation?"

So close, and yet so far (1)

Overzeetop (214511) | about 7 months ago | (#46389067)

Of all the really ass-backwards, poorly performing parts of a modern automobile, the head unit has got to be one of the absolute worst. It requires a minimal, simple interface, and the ability to multi-task effectively. Even the aftermarket pieces which try to do a better job end up sucking horribly. Of all things that matter, Apple (I grudgingly admit) probably has the best chance to solve. MS sure isn't going to get it right (they've tried, and failed, no suprise). And most of the current miscarriages of technology are based on linux already.

But instead of taking over and dominating the head unit, they seem content to simply add a couple of buttons and a special BT interface for iPhone users. Shame, really.

Tesla (2)

sjbe (173966) | about 7 months ago | (#46389343)

Of all things that matter, Apple (I grudgingly admit) probably has the best chance to solve

Actually after sitting in a Model S, I'd say Tesla is probably furthest along the right track. They seem to be the only car company that has figured out how to update firmware and the 17" screen they use makes a LOT more sense than most of the other systems I've seen. A little 6" screen seems a bit out of date and certainly can't display much. Not saying Tesla has everything perfect but its the most innovative system I've seen. Certainly more interesting than tighter iPhone integration.

Re:So close, and yet so far (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 7 months ago | (#46389549)

Of all the really ass-backwards, poorly performing parts of a modern automobile, the head unit has got to be one of the absolute worst. It requires a minimal, simple interface, and the ability to multi-task effectively. Even the aftermarket pieces which try to do a better job end up sucking horribly. Of all things that matter, Apple (I grudgingly admit) probably has the best chance to solve.

I hate touchscreen interfaces for car stereos - there's no way to know what you're doing unless you physically look at the screen, which, unless you happen to be a chameleon, makes it really, really hard to watch where you happen to be piloting your 2,500 lb Death Machine at the moment.

Really makes me miss the stereo in my 1981 GMC - big knobs and heavy-duty mechanical switches. Aside from knowing which station I was tuning in with a touch, there was something particularly satisfying about the loud Ka-CHUNK sound each button made as it moved the dials into place.

my car (1)

beefoot (2250164) | about 7 months ago | (#46389317)

I don't know about you. The car I'm driving is 9 years old and it is still going strong. I will likely keep it for another 3-4 years at least. Gadgets don't last this long. I'm afraid it might work wonder now but in a few years it is an eye sore every time I get into the car. I wouldn't buy car comes with this kind of crap. Give me bluetooth and auxiliary jack. I'm satisfied.

Nice try, Apple (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46389495)

Hey Apple - nice try, buddy. Too bad you'll never catch up to Harman! You're general purpose, we're niche, and we're focused, and we're more user-centric.
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