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The Next Keurig Will Make Your Coffee With a Dash of "DRM"

samzenpus posted about 8 months ago | from the pirate-coffee-is-the-best-coffee dept.

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FuzzNugget writes "Apparently seeking to lock competitors out of the burgeoning single-serve coffee market, Green Mountain Coffee Roasters, maker of the popular Keurig coffee machines, will make their new machines work with licensed pods only. GMCR's CEO confirmed this in a statement: 'The much-anticipated ‘Keurig 2.0’ single-cup brewing system with ‘interactive readability’ (that doesn’t work with unlicensed/copycat pods) will offer such “game-changing functionality” that consumers - and unlicensed players - will want to switch.'"

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Why? (5, Interesting)

B33rNinj4 (666756) | about 8 months ago | (#46390755)

Is it really so hard to just grind the beans and brew it yourself? I do this every morning.

Re:Why? (5, Insightful)

jxander (2605655) | about 8 months ago | (#46390813)

Downside : a normal coffee brew process generates 6-12 cups of Joe.

I guess we could all switch to a press ... but that's a bit messy and requires a stand alone heating method (I've not the space to keep a proper tea kettle on my office desk)

Keurig provides a clean single-cup solution

Re:Why? (3, Informative)

hawguy (1600213) | about 8 months ago | (#46390867)

Downside : a normal coffee brew process generates 6-12 cups of Joe.

I guess we could all switch to a press ... but that's a bit messy and requires a stand alone heating method (I've not the space to keep a proper tea kettle on my office desk)

Keurig provides a clean single-cup solution

Just use an immersion heater [amazon.com] in your coffee mug to heat the water before you dump it in the press.

Re:Why? (5, Informative)

alphatel (1450715) | about 8 months ago | (#46390909)

Downside : a normal coffee brew process generates 6-12 cups of Joe.

I guess we could all switch to a press ... but that's a bit messy and requires a stand alone heating method (I've not the space to keep a proper tea kettle on my office desk)

Keurig provides a clean single-cup solution

Are you on crack? We boil water in an electric kettle in 2.5 minutes, then pour into a press, and blammo, coffee. Keurig provides stupid, bland, watery goop that doesn't leave you with a bunch of grinds to clean up. However, it is neither greener, nor more efficient or even easier really.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46391051)

Your point that making great coffee is already mind numbingly easy aside, the phrase "watery goop" simply doesn't parse.

Re:Why? (1, Troll)

wiredlogic (135348) | about 8 months ago | (#46390917)

There is always the option to give up on substance abuse.

Re:Why? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46391121)

Self-Righteous Prig!

I have CFS and need two cups of coffee (morning and afternoon) to function. Coffee is a blessing.
Plus, Coffee is high in antioxidants and good for your heart.

Re:Why? (2, Informative)

HornWumpus (783565) | about 8 months ago | (#46390929)

A Brazil press is microwave safe. Scratch the bottom to keep from super heating.

Re:Why? (4, Informative)

EMG at MU (1194965) | about 8 months ago | (#46390949)

Every coffee maker I have owned in the past 8 years has had a 1-4 cup option.

Re:Why? (4, Interesting)

roc97007 (608802) | about 8 months ago | (#46390961)

Downside : a normal coffee brew process generates 6-12 cups of Joe.

I guess we could all switch to a press ... but that's a bit messy and requires a stand alone heating method (I've not the space to keep a proper tea kettle on my office desk)

Keurig provides a clean single-cup solution

It creates a lot of waste, though. Trendy, but not very green. Kind of like the personal electronics industry.

Re:Why? (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46391069)

Starbuck's Via is also a clean single-cup solution. It is cheaper, smaller and more dependable than the Keurig machine. It is also a format that would be very hard to add DRM, etc.
Since Keurig wants to punish its customers, I will forgo their stupidity.
Keurig, like Beta, sucks.

Re:Why? (4, Informative)

wisnoskij (1206448) | about 8 months ago | (#46391127)

Coffee makers make a little or as much coffee as you want. If you want one cup, only put one cup or water and a proportionate amount of grounds. And you have the added benefit that while brewing many cups of Keurig is a linearly hard problem (meaning that it takes 20 times longer to brew 20 cups), conventional brewing is not.
When you actually in a situation where you are brewing a lot of coffee, the conventional method becomes more efficient per cup.

Any computer programmer should be able to tell you which is the overall more efficient solution for the general situation.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390825)

For personal use sure. For business use (the vast majority of Green Mountain Coffee customers), no that's not a viable solution. This will likely make businesses switch coffee makers (which die every couple of years from use) not make sure they get approved pods...

close the pod bay door, HAL (5, Funny)

Thud457 (234763) | about 8 months ago | (#46390901)

Sorry Dave, I can't let you brew that.

I'd damn sure reprogram his memory banks with an very large axe for that kind of insubordination.

Re:close the pod bay door, HAL (2)

roc97007 (608802) | about 8 months ago | (#46390993)

Daisy... Daaaiiissyyyy

Keurig patents expired... (1)

mlts (1038732) | about 8 months ago | (#46390989)

Since the K-cup patents expired in 2012, I don't see why other companies don't just create their own K-cup friendly coffeemakers. Vue cups are covered by a new round of patents, but I wonder if the tradeoffs that the Vue cups provide may be worth the added expense by consumers, so K-cups may be an idea as a "standard".

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390833)

Great, do it for me.

Re:Why? (2)

key134 (673907) | about 8 months ago | (#46390839)

Is it really so hard to just grind the beans and brew it yourself? I do this every morning.

I vote for a french press. Though, an AeroPress in intriguing. I can't imagine the people using Keurigs are actually saving any money over just going to a place like Dunkin' Donuts.

Re:Why? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390875)

My roommate in college got a Keurig, and then bought pods in bulk. I think it was like $0.50/K-cup he got, and he drank 2 a day, versus making a pot of coffee. If he went to the Starbucks on campus he would have paid $5 or so a day for his coffee consumption.

Re:Why? (4, Insightful)

jratcliffe (208809) | about 8 months ago | (#46390897)

I can't imagine the people using Keurigs are actually saving any money over just going to a place like Dunkin' Donuts.

Keurig machine is about $120. The pods are about $0.65 each (less if you buy in bulk, or on sale, etc.). Small coffee at DD is $1.49. So, you're saving about $0.85/cup. You cover the cost of the machine after about 140 cups, so you definitely are saving money, even more if you're comparing to buying at Starbucks.

Re:Why? (2, Insightful)

Grishnakh (216268) | about 8 months ago | (#46390999)

Don't forget the cost of your time. Traveling to DD or SB and standing in line for a cup of expensive coffee takes a lot of time (depending on how far you are from the nearest location). If you have your own machine at home, you can have a cup of coffee ready for you in the morning, taking no time at all (I assume the Keurig machines can be programmed to automatically brew a cup at a specified time; make sure you put a cup in place the night before though).

Re:Why? (3, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390893)

Somehow I just don't trust drinking my coffee that we brewed out of a Lexmark ink cartridge.

Re:Why? (2)

nurb432 (527695) | about 8 months ago | (#46390899)

Choice.

Re:Why? (4, Interesting)

carlhaagen (1021273) | about 8 months ago | (#46390973)

It's about the cost, not the coffee or the effort. High price tags attract people who suffer the "spender syndrome" - dishing out a lot of money on something even plain or generic gives these people a feeling of being above the average, being set aside from the rest of us, of enjoying something that is "exclusive" only to their kind.

It's like when you find the exact same piece of generic furniture sold at (but not designed by) IKEA in some upstreet furniture shop - IKEA would call it "ROBUST" (or whatever) and sell it for $89, while the other "boutique" will call it "Multimedia bench in Nordic pinewood" at thrice the pricetag. People with money will buy it, and they will feel like they did a better deal than paying $89 at IKEA. It's one of the oldest tricks in the book of retail.

My K-Cup (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46391001)

The "My K-Cup" device that is available for the current Keurig machines will allow the use of custom-ground coffee.

The two concepts are not incompatible.

Sheesh! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46391079)

For a brief moment, I thought our culture couldn't get any dumber.

Thank you for wrenching me back to reality, Slashdot.

because? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46391113)

Why don't you grow your own beans, too? Seems simpler

Re:Why? (3, Insightful)

dreamchaser (49529) | about 8 months ago | (#46391123)

Not to mention that the Keurig doesn't make coffee that tastes anywhere near as good as fresh ground and brewed or pressed coffee.

Horrible coffee (4, Funny)

Tough Love (215404) | about 8 months ago | (#46390759)

Coffee from pods is an affront dignity anyway. Get a proper espresso machine, or use a press.

Re:Horrible coffee (3, Funny)

jonwil (467024) | about 8 months ago | (#46390841)

Unless you personally witnessed the beans being ground, its not proper coffee :)

Re:Horrible coffee (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390943)

Is it OK if I watch the person in the shop grind them?
The last thing I want is to drink non proper coffee.

Re:Horrible coffee (3, Funny)

qazxswedc (821424) | about 8 months ago | (#46390945)

Unless you bought the beans green and roasted them yourself, it's not proper coffee :D

Re:Horrible coffee (5, Funny)

Ambvai (1106941) | about 8 months ago | (#46391031)

Unless you hate the beans yourself and picked them out of the toilet before roasting them...

Well. You might also have to be a civet.

Re:Horrible coffee (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46391091)

Unless you planted, harvested, roasted, and ground the beans yourself, it's not proper coffee.

Re:Horrible coffee (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46391095)

Unless you've grown, harvested, and dried the beans, it's not proper coffee.

Re:Horrible coffee (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46391101)

Unless you bought the plantation where the coffee beans are grown, it's not proper coffee. 8==D

Re:Horrible coffee (5, Insightful)

Adriax (746043) | about 8 months ago | (#46391133)

How about we just skip to the end of the chain?

Unless you created a pocket universe, started a creation event, formed stars from the resulting big bang cloud, fused a solar system worth of hydrogen into heavier matter, collected the matter into a planet in the perfect orbit, formed a primordial soup, created life from the soup, evolved the life to create coffee bean producers, harvested the beans, processed and roasted the beans, ground them, and finally pressed them yourself, then it's not proper coffee.

Re:Horrible coffee (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about 8 months ago | (#46391021)

Unless you personally witnessed the beans being ground, its not proper coffee :)

Very true. And grinding your own beans adds maybe 30 seconds to the process.

Re:Horrible coffee (4, Funny)

hey! (33014) | about 8 months ago | (#46391055)

It follows that blind people have never tasted proper coffee.

Re:Horrible coffee (5, Insightful)

sunderland56 (621843) | about 8 months ago | (#46390903)

The regular Keurig machine makes filtered coffee; it is not an espresso machine. It makes coffee under pressure - more pressure than a drip machine, obviously, but much less than a proper espresso machine.

Yeah, I used to be a coffee snob too. The convenience of having a fresh, hot cup of coffee within a minute of stumbling downstairs every morning is worth a lot; not having to clean the grounds out of a french press is worth a lot too. Tastes vary, but with 50 or more varieties, there's usually something worth drinking. And, hey, convenience is what sells today; otherwise people would wait to get home to make their phone calls.

Re:Horrible coffee (1)

newcastlejon (1483695) | about 8 months ago | (#46391077)

I use a press but I have a big problem with it: they're all apparently made of thin glass. This means that, by the time the coffee is brewed, it's almost cold. Thankfully I had an old tea cosy around, but now I'm pestered by people asking why I have an ugly hat standing on my desk.

Talk about first world problems. What I'd really like to see is a coffee pot that's made of, well... pot.

French. Press. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390761)

Screw pods... and especially screw DRM pods.

Roast it yourself and french press, baby!

DRM = always bad for consumers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390763)

Do not want.

That $30 Mr. Coffee Espresso maker... (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390767)

That $30 Mr. Coffee espresso maker that breaks down after two years actually makes better economic sense. I amortized the busted unit over two years (sometimes longer) and achieved $0.57/shot espresso. Keurig can suck it.

Re:That $30 Mr. Coffee Espresso maker... (1)

Dynedain (141758) | about 8 months ago | (#46391111)

Not to mention that under taste-testing the Mr. Coffee performed better...

https://www.cooksillustrated.c... [cooksillustrated.com]

And just like Sony ... (5, Informative)

Jumperalex (185007) | about 8 months ago | (#46390781)

they deserve to fail miserably and go down in flames.

This was posted to Reddit like 4 hours ago. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390785)

Seriously? Come up with something original for a change.

Really? (5, Insightful)

Spad (470073) | about 8 months ago | (#46390789)

How much "game-changing functionality" can you really work into a fucking coffee machine?

Re:Really? (2, Funny)

alphatel (1450715) | about 8 months ago | (#46390829)

How much "game-changing functionality" can you really work into a fucking coffee machine?

It turns into a coffee fucking machine. See how I did that?

Re:Really? (4, Funny)

jd2112 (1535857) | about 8 months ago | (#46391129)

How much "game-changing functionality" can you really work into a fucking coffee machine?

It turns into a coffee fucking machine. See how I did that?

So that's where the cream comes from...

Re:Really? (4, Insightful)

nurb432 (527695) | about 8 months ago | (#46390925)

To be fair, i think including DRM IS game changing functionality, just in a bad way. Lets hope it fails in the market and others dont follow down that path.

( I dont drink mud water and even i know this is a bad precedent )

Keuring coffee? No thanks. (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390793)

I only drink certified genuine OEM HP inkjet printer ink. It's much cheaper than Keuring.

Re:Keuring coffee? No thanks. (2)

stox (131684) | about 8 months ago | (#46390845)

Probably tastes better, too.

Not my cup of tea (4, Funny)

sideslash (1865434) | about 8 months ago | (#46390795)

Reminds me of when Microsoft attempted to make their own (proprietary, locked in) java.

Yeah right (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390801)

Because the circuitry to control a heater and pump are SO COMPLEX. If it isn't a modchip, it's going to be a firmware reflash. I give it about three hours before this is cracked now that it has made it into the news to get that much attention.

Re:Yeah right (2)

Marxist Hacker 42 (638312) | about 8 months ago | (#46390955)

My guess RFID. By one regular pod, cut RFID chip out of it, tape to the bottom of subsequent generic pods.

Re:Yeah right (1)

Grishnakh (216268) | about 8 months ago | (#46391083)

There's no way they can put a chip in a coffee pod. It's just too expensive. Chips make sense for printer cartridges, where the cartridge costs $30-90, so a $0.10-0.15 chip doesn't make much difference in the parts cost. For a $0.50-0.65 coffee pod, it doesn't make any sense at all.

The only way I see this working is if they try to patent the cup design somehow, to prevent people from making knock-off cups/pods that fit into the unit. I have no idea how they think this will work legally though; past attempts at such things have never worked, which is why there's all kinds of third-party auto parts out there that are virtually identical to the OEM parts.

This will not end well... (2)

wwalker98 (601563) | about 8 months ago | (#46390803)

Although I am a heavy user of their current line of products, I appreciate the fact that I have the choice to buy unlicensed pods that are either cheaper or represent coffee that is otherwise unavailable. Surely this will kick open the door for a competitor that can take advantage of their self-disruption!

"Interactive" (1)

Ignacio (1465) | about 8 months ago | (#46390805)

Insert pod, push button. How much interactivity does making coffee *need*?

Re:"Interactive" (3, Interesting)

hawguy (1600213) | about 8 months ago | (#46390915)

Insert pod, push button. How much interactivity does making coffee *need*?

I'm guessing that the chip in the pod tailors the brewing cycle for the coffee (or tea) in the pod for the best possible quality. Well, as "best" as you can get with pre-ground beans that have sat on the shelf in a pod for a few months.

Act now... (2)

CambodiaSam (1153015) | about 8 months ago | (#46390807)

hackmykeurig.com is currently available for purchase. I suspect variations will become popular.

Anti competitive (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390809)

This won't be legal to sell in Europe by the sounds of it..

Re:Anti competitive (4, Funny)

climb_no_fear (572210) | about 8 months ago | (#46391003)

That coffee is so bad, that it isn't legal in Europe anyway.

Not DRM, just an old business model (2, Insightful)

EMG at MU (1194965) | about 8 months ago | (#46390811)

Get out your cartridge razor handle. Find a razor cartridge from a different manufacture and try to mate the two, e.g: Schick stick with Gillette cartridge. It will not work. There is no reason it will not work besides the companies want you to only buy their razors.

This isn't DRM it is just an update on an old business model that happens to use a small circuit to achieve the same result.

Re:Not DRM, just an old business model (1)

wwalker98 (601563) | about 8 months ago | (#46390871)

The difference being that consumers want variety from their coffee. Not so much with razors.

Re:Not DRM, just an old business model (1)

EMG at MU (1194965) | about 8 months ago | (#46390963)

Maybe you don't but when I owned one I wanted whatever razor was on sale that week. I don't care if I have one handle and another cartridge.

Re:Not DRM, just an old business model (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46391119)

You might have a point if the handles weren't nearly free...

Re:Not DRM, just an old business model (1)

Microlith (54737) | about 8 months ago | (#46390927)

No, this is akin to the Lexmark case back in 2005 [wikipedia.org] where they used a chip to detect and reject 3rd party cartridges in an effort to protect their ink-selling business model. Thankfully they lost that case so I imagine that whatever "solution" GMCR comes up with will be handily defeated and the 3rd party pod market will continue unabated.

And when the lawsuits fly, their victim can cite that case and have the suit dismissed.

Re:Not DRM, just an old business model (4, Insightful)

nurb432 (527695) | about 8 months ago | (#46390941)

Not quite the same thing. This would prevent a 3rd party from making a cheaper cartridge for your razor.

Re:Not DRM, just an old business model (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390957)

maybe they are brewing a patent for DRM,

Re:Not DRM, just an old business model (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46391059)

Here's my question:

What the fuck are they going to do that I can't just manually fuck with it anyways to by-pass it?

Basically anything that they can reasonably do with the cup I could tear off and put on another cup, or just copy and tape it on. Make it a funny shape? I'll just use an empty cup filled with what I want.

Keurig Vue (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46391071)

If this "Keurig 2.0" thing is actually the Keurig Vue, the only real difference is that the cups are "keyed" through physical distortions.

Shouldn't be used anyway (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390821)

Those things are such an environmental disaster no-one in their right mind should use that crap anyway.

utilitarian (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390837)

Coffee is quite a bit more utilitarian than say, a movie. Clothes are this way too. This is a fatal business move for keurig - it's something even grandmothers will understand- not to buy the coffee machine that needs proprietary cups. Buy the knock off that works with all the cups you can buy in the store. I predict grocery stores with chipped kcups on hand they can't seem to get rid of.

Has anyone ever gotten... (1, Insightful)

stox (131684) | about 8 months ago | (#46390843)

a decent cup of coffee out of a Keurig machine anyway?

functionality (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390851)

“game-changing functionality” ... you mean like coffee that actually tastes good?

Environmental Disaster? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390861)

Really? Huh, I'm on my 3rd cup today.

Suck it.

Why not... (2)

hamster_nz (656572) | about 8 months ago | (#46390865)

...just supply a better quality, more desirable coffee? Oh no, that would be too hard!

DRM technology to the rescue,forcing users to buy crappy or overpriced coffee.

The Real Question (3, Interesting)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 8 months ago | (#46390877)

The real question is - after the "Keurig 2.0" hits the shelves, will I be able to use the "Keurig 2.0" pods with my "Keurig 1.0?"

Or are they going to screw themselves out of my money by trying to force me to "update" to the new model (probably by altering the design of the K-Cup ever-so-slightly), thereby ensuring that the only products I buy for my existing $160 coffee maker are non-Green Mountain brand?

I have left companies over coffee... (1)

Electrawn (321224) | about 8 months ago | (#46390881)

One company I worked at had a Flavia machine. Flavia is expensive as hell but the packages always work. Then they got rid of it for regular coffee. I left. (One of many reasons).

The next company had regular coffee and then "upgraded" to a Keurig machine. Every other day the machine would overflow is some spectacular fashion. I left.

My current company had regular coffee,was acquired and a perk of the new megacorp is Flavia machines in every office. Happy bee.

The patent on the Keurig has run out, so they are going to try and borrow the playbook from HP/Lexmark/et all? Hahaha. Sell short.

Re:I have left companies over coffee... (2)

gurps_npc (621217) | about 8 months ago | (#46390947)

Wow. I did not think anyone in the world that would quit their job because the coffee machine was bad. Have you considered asking to be allowed to bring you own machine into the office?

Re:I have left companies over coffee... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46391099)

If he quit because the coffee machine broke, I suspect he isn't missed there.

Re:I have left companies over coffee... (1)

gnasher719 (869701) | about 8 months ago | (#46391131)

Wow. I did not think anyone in the world that would quit their job because the coffee machine was bad. Have you considered asking to be allowed to bring you own machine into the office?

Bad coffee is often a symptom. Expect other unpleasant things to go on.

Re:I have left companies over coffee... (1)

krups gusto (2203848) | about 8 months ago | (#46391029)

Hmm... I quit a job because they moved *to* a flavia machine.

Don't like it - make your own (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390891)

I say the same about all forms of DRM.

If you don't like it:

Don't buy the movie.
Don't buy the music.
Don't buy the game.
Don't buy the coffee.

I don't understand the crusade to have everything on your terms - without doing it yourself. Commercial goods, OSS, etc.
Take it for what it is... or don't, and that is a perfectly acceptable choice.

Go ahead Keurig... make my day. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390913)

I'll make and sell conversion kits to unfuck your Keurig 2.0.

Just extened the technology a little... (1)

ProjectArcturus (3551993) | about 8 months ago | (#46390933)

...and this could be awesome for my workplace. We have someone who never ever removes their used K-Cup from the Keurig. Maybe I could blacklist their "Caribou Obsidian" K-Cups from the machine, or program it to only brew the tiniest mug size, hehehe Stick a micro-sd/data logging on it and I'll finally know what time they sneak in...

But its good for the consumer. (1)

djrosen (265939) | about 8 months ago | (#46390935)

But DRM is good for the consumer! Just ask the MAFIAA, they'll tell you whats best for you and you'll like it, no really.

where this time? (2)

Connie_Lingus (317691) | about 8 months ago | (#46390937)

i'm wondering where exactly are we going to have to put the piece of black tape or sharpie scribble to disable it...

lol DRM...will they ever learn?

knock knock: "OMFG it's the coffee police.,..AGAIN!!"
"damn, so who forgot the firewall the damn thing this time??"
"well...shit i was surfing for porn and disabled the FW for freakydeaks,com.."

pound pound "OPEN UP...WE CAN SMELL THE CRIME BREWING HERE DO NOT RUN"

Hayes compatible, anyone? (1)

MrLogic17 (233498) | about 8 months ago | (#46390951)

This means my next Keurig will be a Keurig-compatible machine, sans-DRM.
I can't imagine anything they could possibly add to the "pods" to warrant moving way from all of the clone pods & machines. (Freshness date chips? Custom brewing settings?)

I smell a failing business model brewing...

Re:Hayes compatible, anyone? (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 8 months ago | (#46391049)

Hayes compatible, anyone?

%b6viaby5i+++NO CAFETIERE+++

Go ahead and shoot yourself in the foot (2)

kheldan (1460303) | about 8 months ago | (#46390979)

I couldn't believe this whole "Keurig" thing when I saw it, it creates all sorts of plastic waste and is expensive per cup, plus having to have an expensive and complex machine to use it and not as much control over what ends up in your coffee cup. If they want to shoot themselves in the foot by locking everyone else out of the process rather than allowing laziness to help proliferate their coffeemaking process, then I guess that's their decision and good riddance to them when they kill off their own market. Meanwhile, get a French Press, people, they even make little ones for single-cup coffee, and it's really not that difficult to use.

Volume of Water Needed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 8 months ago | (#46390997)

The only big technical problem that the Keurig system seems to have that I've experienced is that the volume of water required per cup is not clearly marked. This means that if I accidently pour 8 oz of water into a 6 oz hot chocolate cartridge, it will be watered down and taste awful! A smarter system would detect the amount of water appropriate for the cartridge and only dispense that amount of water through it to enable consistently awesome hot beverages. Or they could set a standard volume and stick to it.

The New "Standard" business Model (1)

DadLeopard (1290796) | about 8 months ago | (#46391009)

Sell device at or below cost, make sure it only works with your highly, or moderately over priced (ink cart, eBook, razor blade refill, coffee pod, or whatever)!! I this case, I own an espresso machine and can hit the brew button for a second double shot of water for cafe Americano in about the same time as a K-Cup machine! For every day I'll stick to French press and grind my own beans, I own a pump pot carafe, so good to go for the whole day!!

Just in time (1)

CAIMLAS (41445) | about 8 months ago | (#46391011)

Glad this news just came about; I just backed out of ordering a Keurig on this news (ie canceled the Amazon order).

I'll save up a bit and get a real (oood) espresso maker now.

Sure, the Keurig does something for speed and efficiency (when you need a cup, you NEED A CUP). But not at the cost of being locked into their packets: I want my locally roasted beans, thanks.

Environmentalists vs. Keurig (2)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about 8 months ago | (#46391015)

It always makes me chuckle when one of my self-anointed "green" friends whips up a cup of Keurig and then chucks the plastic container in the trash.

Pot meet...

I just submitted feedback to Keurig (1)

erroneus (253617) | about 8 months ago | (#46391019)

I would encourage everyone to to the same. They have a simple email submission page on their site and it has no capcha or anything annoying like that. Let them know we do not care for the practice of locking out competition.

Pour-over or french press or moka. (2)

jpellino (202698) | about 8 months ago | (#46391065)

I've found only one suitable pre-made Keurig pod for me, Dark Magic Decaf.
Meanwhile, I still have opposable thumbs and can operate a french press or a Chemex or a porcelain cone or a Bialetti.
Choose your level of messiness (none horrible), but get much better coffee at at least half the price.
Yes, it can take up to ten minutes to get it, but there's something to be said for not making everything in life about pushing one button.
I can do them all with any heat source, from electric main to the trusty SnowPeak.

wow. Just wow. (2)

bigdan69 (1595069) | about 8 months ago | (#46391081)

Jesus. My coffee needs neither "interactive reability" nor "game-changing functionality." All the interactive readability I need is, I pour clear water in, and it comes out dark, dark brown. My coffee pot's functionality is not a game that needs to be changed; I shovel some ground beans in, and press a button. My coffee needs to force my sleeping ass awake for the drive to work, not save the world, the whales, or the children. As if I needed another, this is one more reason why a Keurig will never clutter my countertop.

cold brew coffee (1)

dgp (11045) | about 8 months ago | (#46391143)

Another option for small servings of coffee is switching to cold brew. Its far less bitter and much easier on your stomach. It keeps in the refrigerator so it can be poured in one cup servings. It takes a little more setup work.

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