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Microsoft Releases Free Edition of OneNote

timothy posted about 6 months ago | from the gratis-not-libre-of-course dept.

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yakatz writes "Microsoft announced that OneNote, including the full desktop program, will be free for anyone who wants to use the program. A version of the program for Mac also appeared in the app store yesterday. This means that a native edition of OneNote is available for most platforms (including iPad, iPhone and Android, but not Linux or Blackberry). Microsoft will continue to offer a paid version of OneNote with 'business-oriented' features (including SharePoint support, version history and Outlook integration). The partial rebranding of OneNote also includes some new tools like a program specifically designed to make it easier to take a picture of a whiteboard.
Is this a signal that Microsoft decided that they need to compete with Apple by making their productivity applications free?"
(Over at WineHQ, they're looking for a maintainer for their page on OneNote. Anyone running it on a Free operating system? What are your favorite alternatives that are "libre" free, rather than only gratis?)

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Next they'll give internet explorer free (2, Insightful)

i kan reed (749298) | about 6 months ago | (#46516595)

Jeez, basic tools to use a computer coming with the operating system? Do they have any other genius ideas?

Re:Next they'll give internet explorer free (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46516753)

Unlike most companies, MS gets sued by the EU every time they try to add an app to their OS.

Re:Next they'll give internet explorer free (3, Insightful)

Sudline (1552111) | about 6 months ago | (#46516821)

Actually MS adds a lot of apps to its OS. It is sued to favor their version and discourage users to use competitor's versions.

Re:Next they'll give internet explorer free (4, Insightful)

StripedCow (776465) | about 6 months ago | (#46517015)

Apple, in constrast, makes sure any competitive app never sees the light of day:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1384... [cnet.com]

Re:Next they'll give internet explorer free (1)

rolfwind (528248) | about 6 months ago | (#46517323)

2008.... what like the 1st year the app store was even out, Iphone barely a year old....have something a bit more recent?

Re:Next they'll give internet explorer free (0)

Gadget_Guy (627405) | about 6 months ago | (#46517465)

2008.... what like the 1st year the app store was even out, Iphone barely a year old....have something a bit more recent?

That is still more recent than the Microsoft product listed in the subject line (i.e. IE) that caused Microsoft so much grief for including it in Windows.

Re:Next they'll give internet explorer free (1)

Bill_the_Engineer (772575) | about 6 months ago | (#46517403)

Yes because CNet is known for it infallible tech reporting, and something reported in 2008 must still be relevant today. Also the existence of products that compete against Apple branded products on the App Store shouldn't make the article less true.

WTF is OneNote? (3, Funny)

cayenne8 (626475) | about 6 months ago | (#46517041)

Hmm....I've never heard of "OneNote" before, is anyone else very familiar with this software and its uses?

Maybe they're making it free, to get some recognition?

Re:WTF is OneNote? (5, Informative)

Hadlock (143607) | about 6 months ago | (#46517221)

It's a tabbed version of WordPad that allows you to paste in images, spreadsheet snippets, text etc, but has Deep Hooks in to Sharepoint to create things like programmable checklists for manual tasks that email out the results. It's been around since at least 2007. In the right hands it's very powerful but most people ignore it.

Re:WTF is OneNote? (2, Insightful)

wiredlogic (135348) | about 6 months ago | (#46517397)

It's a little more sophisticated than that given the integrated handwriting recognition. OneNote is a spiritual copy of the original standalone Evernote.

Re:WTF is OneNote? (4, Informative)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | about 6 months ago | (#46517413)

Plus, if you're running a tablet like my Surface Pro you can actually write and draw in OneNote, using the tablet's stylus. The top of the stylus also has an eraser so you can rub things out in OneNote.

It's pretty nifty when I just want to sketch something out that I will transpose into Visio later.

rub things (1)

Phusion (58405) | about 6 months ago | (#46517603)

Hehe rub things out in OneNote, so you can paste porn in there too?
*rimshot*

Re:rub things (2)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | about 6 months ago | (#46517867)

I'm sure that you can keep a porn diary in OneNote. Approach your habit as you would an academic discipline, and take notes on videos. Annotate your dickpics. Keep a running bibliography of interesting urls.

And upload the whole bit to microsoft servers so that you can enjoy a seamless experience on phone, tablet, tv, and laptop.

Re:WTF is OneNote? (4, Funny)

Gadget_Guy (627405) | about 6 months ago | (#46517363)

Hmm....I've never heard of "OneNote" before, is anyone else very familiar with this software and its uses?
Maybe they're making it free, to get some recognition?

It has been around for over a decade now, and has been part of Microsoft Office since 2007. Microsoft Office is an (apparently) obscure suite of productivity software for Windows and Mac. Microsoft Windows is an graphic user interface operating system that has been around in various forms since the mid 80s.

The 80s was the decade when style took a holiday.

Re:WTF is OneNote? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517647)

If you're trying to be witty, it just isn't working out.

Re:WTF is OneNote? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517495)

So its like HyperCard ?
Or Ted Nelson's ZigZag ?

Re:Next they'll give internet explorer free (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 6 months ago | (#46517133)

Unlike most companies, MS gets sued by the EU every time they try to add an app to their OS.

Unlike "most companies"? Just how many companies are in the business of creating operating systems with no hardware attached to it and selling it to HW vendors in large masses for mainstream users?

Re:Next they'll give internet explorer free (1)

mlw4428 (1029576) | about 6 months ago | (#46516991)

I fail to see how a "whiteboarding" app like OneNote is considered "basic". Should they include a CAD program as well?

Re:Next they'll give internet explorer free (1)

i kan reed (749298) | about 6 months ago | (#46517005)

"I fail to see how writing notes is a basic application of paper"

Re:Next they'll give internet explorer free (1)

mlw4428 (1029576) | about 6 months ago | (#46517053)

So what about Notepad, Wordpad, Paint, Command Line's EDIT, etc?

Re:Next they'll give internet explorer free (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 6 months ago | (#46517151)

These are more like a typewriter than a piece of paper. For example, it's difficult to draw in them.

Re:Next they'll give internet explorer free (3)

mlw4428 (1029576) | about 6 months ago | (#46517333)

The key word was "basic" in "basic application". Most Linux distros don't come with much more than Tomboy which is essentially nothing more than notepad opened up for each new "sticky note" and sized appropriately. OneNote doesn't have any real competitors that offer the full range of features and believe me, I've looked. To suggest that this is a "basic" program ignores the fact that none of the other platforms offer software with the same features and capabilities with their standard base installs.

The submission looks like a Microsoft advertisemen (5, Informative)

john57 (988099) | about 6 months ago | (#46516615)

I might have been living under a rock, but I have no idea whatsoever what OneNote is and it is entirely unclear from the submission. Would it be too hard to mention this?

Re:The submission looks like a Microsoft advertise (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46516681)

it's a one time use notepad

Once you use it, onenote.exe deletes itself

Re:The submission looks like a Microsoft advertise (5, Informative)

danbuter (2019760) | about 6 months ago | (#46516701)

OneNote is kind of like a heavy-duty yellow sticky program, where you can link everything together incredibly easily. It's one of the best organizational programs out there, for people like writers, etc. I honestly think it's one of the best products MS owns.

Re: The submission looks like a Microsoft advertis (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46516797)

Scrivenger. Specifically FOR writers. It's the perfect OneNote replacement.

Haha (1)

nashv (1479253) | about 6 months ago | (#46516889)

Real writers use tablets...clay tablets.

In all seriousness, I never found a suitable program to store all my lab notes that I couldn't do better than just text files.

Re:The submission looks like a Microsoft advertise (1)

Russ1642 (1087959) | about 6 months ago | (#46516897)

I must have been using it wrong. When I tried it I found it to be a big disorganized mess.

took me a while to get used to it (4, Interesting)

a2wflc (705508) | about 6 months ago | (#46517091)

I liked what I saw co-workers able to do with it and saw potential once I got it figured out so I kept at it. It took me a few weeks to get used to it but once I did, I loved it.

I was part of dozens (20-40) of projects at a time and it was great for keeping all of my notes about each project organized as I went from meeting to meeting. After I left that job (too many meetings) I didn't have a paid version of office. I've been more than happy with substitutes for everything else but have missed OneNote.

Re:The submission looks like a Microsoft advertise (4, Insightful)

lgw (121541) | about 6 months ago | (#46517717)

Whether OneNote is wonderfully organized or a big disorganized mess is not a property of OneNote. :)

Re:The submission looks like a Microsoft advertise (1)

Gothmolly (148874) | about 6 months ago | (#46516977)

So exactly what are "people like writers, etc." ?

Re:The submission looks like a Microsoft advertise (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517027)

OneNote is kind of like a heavy-duty yellow sticky program, where you can link everything together incredibly easily.

So how does it compare to GNote [gnome.org] (formerly Tomboy Notes), or to Cherrytree [giuspen.com] , both of which are GPL?

Re:The submission looks like a Microsoft advertise (1)

dissy (172727) | about 6 months ago | (#46517559)

Gnote doesn't appear to handle images and other binary data, just text.

CherryTree looks pretty close however. The only feature I see lacking is its search.
OneNote can text-search within images for example, not just the textual notes.

The Outlook integration is pretty nice too, but since that won't be in the free version it looks like, that isn't fair to compare.

Re:The submission looks like a Microsoft advertise (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 6 months ago | (#46517757)

Lab notebook too. It's similar to evernote.

Re:The submission looks like a Microsoft advertise (5, Informative)

rahvin112 (446269) | about 6 months ago | (#46516989)

It's easily one of the most flexible and IMO best products MS has ever produced. The problem is with the amount the charged for it it becomes almost worthless and it received almost no traction because MS didn't give a rats ass about it. Think evernote without the ever portion but far more flexible and with an office type interface. It's been around for more than a decade, had MS been innovative they would have been evernote, except probably far larger more widespread and in nearly every single enterprise. Instead the product was a redheaded stepchild inside MS.

But it's always been handicapped by MS's policies of not supporting non-windows and all the typical lockout and other games they've played their entire existence. It's because of this, onenote outside small niche's has seen very little uptake and almost no one knows about it.

Re:The submission looks like a Microsoft advertise (2)

movdqa (1122661) | about 6 months ago | (#46517055)

The current Mac OS X similar product is Growly Notes, written by a former Microsoft Word developer who now develops Mac OS X Apps. I use Growly Notes extensively for home and work stuff. I put my status information for my projects, record what I do daily and copy in Specs, emails, pictures, PDFs, etc. You can drag in videos, audio files and documents. The program will sync to other computers running the same software as well. I put my tax information in there which makes it easier to do my taxes. I have college stuff for the kids, hobby project ideas, directions for how to do things, etc. You can encrypt at the notebook or page level and you can do various searches. I've heard from others that One-Note does a lot more. One-Note can sync to the cloud but we don't put work-stuff on the cloud. I don't put a lot of personal and family stuff on the cloud either. You could drag all of your utility bills into One-Note so that you can retrieve them if and when you need them. One Note also has Outlook integration and I think that you can drag in stuff from Microsoft Office documents for live update. At any rate, I'm going to move over to One Note from Growly Notes as I want a product with support from a team and I like that I can put it on Windows and Mac OS X. It will be somewhat of a pain in the neck to migrate my stuff over. BTW, this is a big deal. One-Note was originally designed as a planning and notebook tool for college students. Microsoft bought it and a lot of people found out how useful it is for the workplace.

Re:The submission looks like a Microsoft advertise (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517447)

I put my tax information in there which makes it easier to do my taxes.

You entrust your tax information to cloud-based software?

You senor, are either very trusting, or very stupid.

Is this a signal? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46516691)

"Is this a signal that Microsoft decided that they need to compete with Apple by making their productivity applications free?"

In a word: no.

Re:Is this a signal? (3, Insightful)

immaterial (1520413) | about 6 months ago | (#46516873)

Yeah, if they're going after anyone, it's Evernote. And I'm thankful as can be about that; maybe it'll get the Evernote folks to actually focus on FUNCTIONALITY rather than just completely re-designing the app's interface once a year (in ever more convoluted ways). I stuck with Evernote through two or three obnoxious interface changes and I still have trouble getting text (particularly lists) to format sensibly.

Re:Is this a signal? (-1, Troll)

rudy_wayne (414635) | about 6 months ago | (#46516943)

"Is this a signal that Microsoft decided that they need to compete with Apple by making their productivity applications free?"

In a word: no.

It's a signal that nobody uses OneNote because nobody knows what the fuck it is.

Re:Is this a signal? (3, Interesting)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about 6 months ago | (#46517261)

Lol, you guys in your little bubbles crack me up... You remind me of "No TV" guy, always butting in to any conversation involving someone famous with "Kim Kardashian, who's that, I don't have a TV!".

Re:Is this a signal? (2)

Shados (741919) | about 6 months ago | (#46517553)

I'm an evernote user (because originally the android app for OneNote sucked ass...though I just peeked at it and it looks somewhat better now), but used to use OneNote...

and while a lot of the Microsoft flame is often justified, not in this case. Get out of your bubble. OneNote is the one thing Microsoft got right, and its used by a _LOT_ of people. Even working for unix based companies, people with windows lap-top use it all the time, and those who couldn't run it before were drooling over it. Its fairly well known.

microsoft account (1, Insightful)

sirber (891722) | about 6 months ago | (#46516719)

is required...

Re:microsoft account (2)

Curunir_wolf (588405) | about 6 months ago | (#46517325)

[microsoft account] is required...

It's also required for every other comparable note app, too. Evernote pricing may have changed, but when I first tried it most of the features I wanted required the "premium" edition - which requires $5 every month as long as you want access to your data. That's for 1GB of storage. That microsoft account will give you 7GB for free.

Re:microsoft account (1)

Gadget_Guy (627405) | about 6 months ago | (#46517593)

is required...

Not according to this Ars comparison of OneNote on Windows and Mac [arstechnica.com] , where they said that unlike the Windows version, the OS X version requires a Microsoft account. So it seems the Windows version can use local *.ONE files.

Re:microsoft account (1)

lgw (121541) | about 6 months ago | (#46517755)

A Microsoft account is also free, but they're giving away the normal client software, not just some cloud offering, right?

Where's the data stored? (1)

QuietLagoon (813062) | about 6 months ago | (#46516723)

Does OneNote store my data in someone's cloud, or can I store my data on my computers?

Re:Where's the data stored? (2)

Richard_at_work (517087) | about 6 months ago | (#46516763)

Its stored on OneDrive.

Re:Where's the data stored? (2, Insightful)

FirstTimeCaller (521493) | about 6 months ago | (#46516825)

It can be stored on OneDrive and doing so allows you to access your information from almost anyhwere using almost any device. But it can be stored locally as well (or on a network share), without any cloud servers.

Re:Where's the data stored? (5, Informative)

darrylo (97569) | about 6 months ago | (#46517219)

No, if you try creating a local notebook with the free version, you're greeted with a friendly message that says that you can only create the notebook in onedrive.

Re:Where's the data stored? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517551)

No, if you try creating a local notebook with the free version, you're greeted with a friendly message that says that you can only create the notebook in onedrive.

You need a Microsoft account to use the app.

Re:Where's the data stored? (1)

QuietLagoon (813062) | about 6 months ago | (#46517527)

It can be stored on OneDrive and doing so allows you to access your information from almost anyhwere using almost any device.

That also allows Microsoft to access my data.

Since others have said the free version requires the use of storage on Microsoft's computers, I suspect Microsoft will be scanning the OneNote data for monetizing purposes. Why else would they prevent the free OneNote users from storing data on non-Microsoft servers?

Re:Where's the data stored? (1)

darrylo (97569) | about 6 months ago | (#46517821)

Since others have said the free version requires the use of storage on Microsoft's computers, I suspect Microsoft will be scanning the OneNote data for monetizing purposes. Why else would they prevent the free OneNote users from storing data on non-Microsoft servers?

lol, you haven't looked at the free version, right? They're preventing you from storing data locally, because you have to pay money and subscribe to their online office offering to get local notebooks.

Now, they might still be scanning your notebooks, but the main reason is money.

Re:Where's the data stored? (1)

ohieaux (2860669) | about 6 months ago | (#46517927)

I can't use OneDrive on my 8.1 computer without using a "Microsoft Live" log in. So, this is a deal breaker for OneNote.

Re: Where's the data stored? (3, Informative)

herrnova (2534538) | about 6 months ago | (#46516775)

It has the ability for both. You don't have to use the cloud support if you do not want to, it can save your notebooks where ever you want. It has built in support for Microsoft OneDrive, or you can just have it save your notebooks in your copy.com drobox etc folder.

Re: Where's the data stored? (5, Informative)

darrylo (97569) | about 6 months ago | (#46517197)

No, the free version is cloud-only.

Go on, try creating a local notebook -- you can't do it with the free version.

I uninstalled it after I discovered that.

Re:Where's the data stored? (2)

King_TJ (85913) | about 6 months ago | (#46516779)

I know with OneNote 2013 for Windows, it stores the "master" copy of your data wherever you configure it to go. It could be on a local drive, a network share, or the cloud (if you default it to SkyDrive or DropBox or Google Drive or whatever).

Then, it always keeps a cached copy on your C: drive in a big cache file for improved performance. (For Windows users, it's found under C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\OneNote\15.0)

AppData is a hidden directory, BTW.

Re:Where's the data stored? (2)

Mr_Wisenheimer (3534031) | about 6 months ago | (#46516895)

On Windows, OneNote data is stored where you specify. You can save directly to your skydrive, to your library on your hard drive, to an individual folder on your harddrive, or to an enterprise network location.

Hey, I have an idea!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46516731)

Let's all mindlessly bash Micro$oft!!

Comparison to EverNote (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 6 months ago | (#46516785)

I've had no direct experience with OneNote before, but I have used Evernote off and on - in case anyone was wondering which one was more useful, there's a good (though year old) comparison here [pcworld.com] .

To summarize, since I've been using Evernote already I'll probably stick with that. Sure OneNote is free but even taking the time to really try it out means something.

If anyone else has practical experience with why you would use OneNote over Evernote, I'd love to hear it...

Re:Comparison to EverNote (3, Insightful)

Mr_Wisenheimer (3534031) | about 6 months ago | (#46516985)

The Windows version of OneNote is the most powerful note taking program ever produced. It was also one of the first programs of its type, and offers excellent integration with other Office applications.

If you are using a Windows computer with stylus input and the MS Office suite, using OneNote is a no brainer. The handwriting recognition is pretty good. The Math equation recognition needs some work but is passable if you are a very neat writer.

If Evernote is already fulfilling your needs and you are not using a Windows tablet with a stylus, you might want to give it a look, but there is probably no reason to switch. If you do have a Windows tablet though, I think it is a no brainer. It was one of the first programs of its type and it is hands-down the most full featured.

Re:Comparison to EverNote (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517001)

OneNote does not try to replicate paper or worldly items. It is a digital space for creating and working. I use a Samsung ATIV tablet with OneNote 2013 desktop for all of my software development needs.

I print source code to OneNote to hand review and make on "paper" notes. OneNote has a built in Windows Printer to allow software to "print" to OneNote.

With a digital pen (wacom) OneNote is an open area for designing new concepts and maintaining these in a very organized model. Although you do not have to integrate OneNote with OneDrive the ability to do this allows the integration of your notes to exist on Android, iOS, or Web. All of these clients can view the OneNote documents including your hand written notes.

OneNote does not restrict a page to any physical dimensions. You have infinite space right and down on a page. There isn't a concept of "pages" but unless you wanted this. I don't even touch S Note or EverNote. I am quite passionate about the OneNote application and it is by far my primary app for owning a wacom based tablet PC and if OneNote supported S Pen on Android I would own a Samsung Note.

Wacom Pen + Desktop OneNote + OneDrive

Re:Comparison to EverNote (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 6 months ago | (#46517329)

Thanks, between your and other comments I think I will take a look at OneNote and see if perhaps I'd prefer it for some note taking tasks. It seems like it's a different enough model it's worth trying anyway.

Re:Comparison to EverNote (1)

lgw (121541) | about 6 months ago | (#46517819)

It's damn good for taking notes with a stylus. It's fair for taking notes with a laptop

We use it at work instead of a whiteboard (or PowerPoint) for meetings, most of the time. It comes close to being good enough for that, but doesn't quite make it - the lack of table formatting options really hold it back (or some other way to do "boxes and arrows" more easily). For something other than engineering design meetings, it's probably fine.

Re:Comparison to EverNote (2)

mlw4428 (1029576) | about 6 months ago | (#46517021)

I like OneNote because of the whiteboarding features, multi-user editing, and the click-anywhere/write-anywhere type functionality. I feel that the search functionality leaves a LOT to be desired, but IMHO it's more functional than Evernote.

Re:Comparison to EverNote (1)

IsThisNickTaken (555227) | about 6 months ago | (#46517107)

I was about to respond with "You want to capture notes and not have them sync with the cloud" which is desired for company private materials (and for other privacy reasons). I did a quick search online and http://discussion.evernote.com/topic/43171-evernote-without-the-cloud// [evernote.com] shows that you can have local Evernote notebooks that don't sync with the with the cloud too (although you do not to create an account).

Re:Comparison to EverNote (2)

Curunir_wolf (588405) | about 6 months ago | (#46517573)

If anyone else has practical experience with why you would use OneNote over Evernote, I'd love to hear it...

I have actually used it, although only on my corporate computer that has the required Microsoft office suite anyway. It really is pretty handy, my use is limited because of the way it stores data (all one big data blob). Evernote stores everything the same way, though, so that's not different. Now that OneNote is free for lots of platforms I'll probably start using it a lot more.

I tried Evernote a while back when looking for a note-taking app for my tablet, and didn't like it. I don't know if things have changed, but at the time the features I really wanted the note app for were only available for Evernote's Premium version. $5 every month, forever, was just too much commitment to ask of me (didn't they once require premium for the PC version?)

OneNote, IMHO, does a better job organizing things. You can have multiple notebooks, each with multiple sections, and each section can have multiple pages. Navigating through these is simple and intuitive. Storage options for each notebook can be configured separately, which is handy for sharing a notebook - you just store it on a network file share (I guess you could do it with a shared cloud storage, too, but I haven't tried).

If I want to use cloud storage, I can use a Microsoft account, which has 7 GB of storage for free.

If you're already using Evernote and like it, I can't think of any reason to switch.

Redundancy (1)

ottermann (2635655) | about 6 months ago | (#46516801)

They made it free because other competing applications are free. Evernote, for example.

How do I know if I want to use it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46516817)

If I have no idea what it does?

This is an increasing problem with a lot of software advertising. You get a list of advantages and features, and no description of what the product actually does or what you would use it for.

Re:How do I know if I want to use it... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517799)

Chances are you have no desire to use it. At least I know I don't. I only use stuff like that if the boss is telling me to use it. I guess that's what I get for being middle-aged now. You see, I've actually got a memory in my *brain* and am concerned about keeping it sharp as I get older. I do this (in part) by maintaining a general sense of where things are and what needs to be done. I've written programs that run into the 10s of thousands of lines and yes, there was a bug-tracking system; but there was no general purpose whiteboard capture database or anything like that.

So. If you have velcro on your shoes or attend a lot of meetings where your productivity is judged by how much your name is in the DB, then you need this software. Otherwise just ignore it.

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One of the best new software programs (2, Interesting)

Mr_Wisenheimer (3534031) | about 6 months ago | (#46516867)

OneNote is one of the most innovative software programs of the last decade and one that I have found particularly useful, as I have been using Windows tablets since 2005. While there have been imitators, none have been able to match it feature-for-feature.

I am unsure of the business logic behind the decision, but this is a big win for consumers, especially since Microsoft is now offering it on third party OS's, although in a much-reduced form.

Microsoft has had some really good ideas since Gates left, like OneNote and the Tablet PC. Their problem has been implementation. Companies like Apple have taken their ideas (like touchscreen smartphones and tablet PCs), repackaged them in a form attractive to the average consumer, and made billions. The fact that MS has so many innovative products that do not sell well speaks to some kind of serious problem within the upper levels of their corporate campus.

Re:One of the best new software programs (1)

Curunir_wolf (588405) | about 6 months ago | (#46517619)

Gee, thanks, Mr. Nadella.

Comparison (1)

Warbothong (905464) | about 6 months ago | (#46516915)

What are your favorite alternatives that are "libre" free, rather than only gratis?

This seems pretty thorough: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C... [wikipedia.org]

Reminder: Software as a service (1, Redundant)

MobyDisk (75490) | about 6 months ago | (#46516919)

Notice that most of these note-taking and file-synchronization apps all come with their own proprietary built-in solution for storing the data on a server they control. And notice that none of them have an option to enter a SFTP URL to keep the files. This tells you that they aren't in the business of providing a note taking software. They are in the business of data mining your notes.

Once again, you are the product.

Re:Reminder: Software as a service (1)

number17 (952777) | about 6 months ago | (#46517153)

And none of them make my lunch every day!

Re:Reminder: Software as a service (0)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about 6 months ago | (#46517293)

SFTP, lol. Yeah - that's totally popular outside the neckbeard population.

Outlook does allow you to store the data locally. If I wanted to store it in the cloud I would use something like Boxcryptor to encrypt it to a cloud drive.

Re:Reminder: Software as a service (1)

Shados (741919) | about 6 months ago | (#46517467)

OneNote is made to have multiple clients share 1 file. So any file sharing tool will work if it maps to a folder. You can stick it on a network share or something. And any "cloud drive" solution will work just fine.

Re:Reminder: Software as a service (1)

Curunir_wolf (588405) | about 6 months ago | (#46517663)

Notice that most of these note-taking and file-synchronization apps all come with their own proprietary built-in solution for storing the data on a server they control. And notice that none of them have an option to enter a SFTP URL to keep the files. This tells you that they aren't in the business of providing a note taking software. They are in the business of data mining your notes.

Most, true. OneNote, however, allows you to store on a local drive, a network share, or your own web site (although I believe the web site option only works with Sharepoint - but then Microsoft tries to sell Sharepoint with EVERYTHING.

Org Mode (2)

rpdillon (715137) | about 6 months ago | (#46516953)

If you're looking for libre notebook/organization software, I've never found anything better than Org-Mode. It runs across all major desktop operating systems (via Emacs), and is included with the default distribution of Emacs. I don't think OneNote even comes close to Org's feature set.

Re:Org Mode (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517291)

" I don't think OneNote even comes close to Org's feature set."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_notetaking_software

Seems that the information in the link above disagrees with you.

Please describe Org's feature set that OneNote doesn't come close to.

Re:Org Mode (1)

RightSaidFred99 (874576) | about 6 months ago | (#46517309)

Lol! You Emacs guys are so cute! Doesn't even come close...lol. Because like most neckbeards I'm sure you're totally familiar with OneNote. God forbid you want to paste an image or screenshot. CLI4Life! Lolzers.

Re:Org Mode (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517729)

Not sure if you're trolling, but Org mode does support images and screenshots. And yes, they're displayed inline along with the rest of the outline and can be collapsed. You can also include them as undisplayed attachments (as can OneNote).

I've used both tools, and Org Mode's feature set is several orders of magnitude larger. OneNote hasn't really evolved since it was introduced, except the change in OneNote 2010 to add versioning. In particular, OneNote's Outlook integration is still extremely rudimentary, whereas Org Mode has extremely advanced calendaring and e-mail integration.

huh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517037)

Microsoft products are bloated just like the MS employment of about 70 thousand+ non-programmers. Windows is great at running games and applications for a while but then after month's of use it starts to run sluggish even after cleaning up the cache's, registry, and defragging the drive. Server, exchange, ms sql are the biggest bloats, complicated mess that needs tons of customization to the server and the applications themselves to make them run correctly.

Re:huh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517339)

You must be using the computer wrong if it's getting "sluggish" after a month. Stop using registry cleaners, dipshit. And here's another hint: You slow your shit down when you clear caches. Derp.

beta being forced... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517099)

on android opera mobile, i go to /. i get beta mess... i find the "or click here" to http://slashdot.org/?nobeta=1 ... but as soon as i click an actual headline, im forced to beta version of article.

Ulterior motive (1, Flamebait)

nickmalthus (972450) | about 6 months ago | (#46517131)

Who wants to bet that if one carefully reads the EULA for the free edition of OneNote that Microsoft has buried a clause in there that they can data mine all information stored in their Cloud service? Providing the OneNote client and Cloud storage for free would be a bargain given the data bonanza they would have access to: personal contact information, shopping lists, todos, etc.

Re:Ulterior motive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517351)

You mean Microsoft will know that I'm going to buy eggs and dryer sheets on the way home?!!
Oh the horrors!

OmniOutliner (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517155)

I've always been happy with OmniOutliner for this sort of task. I believe it used to be included with Mac OS X since like version 8 or 9 all the way up through around 2006.

Free is too Expensive (1)

pubwvj (1045960) | about 6 months ago | (#46517355)

Free is too expensive since I don't trust Microsoft to continue to offer the product. One of the big problems is we need to continue having access to our legacy data. When Apple, Google, Microsoft or other companies decide a project is no longer worth supporting we lose access to our data going forward. They are not good about providing legacy support or data conversion.

Re:Free is too Expensive (1)

Shados (741919) | about 6 months ago | (#46517429)

OneNote data is easy to extract and several tools allow it. Also not free, but Evernote will happily gobble it all up. Your data is on your own box (even if you use the online version, as it will get synced up with OneDrive), and it does have publicly available APIs.

The moment they try to close it down, move your data elsewhere. Problem solved.

stoopid program (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517511)

OneNote, AFAICS, is good for one thing: clogging your network with giant loads of crap. I used it at a small company years ago, there were only 6 employees, and a single message grew to retardedly large sizes within a few quoted replies.

Ann it still sucks. (1)

Lumpy (12016) | about 6 months ago | (#46517541)

The best version of One Note was back in 2003 that on a tablet edition computer you could do handwriting. Why MS decided to be morons and NOT include the handwriting notepad on the ipad version I'll never understand.

more "free" stuff from MS! (1)

John Nemesh (3244653) | about 6 months ago | (#46517569)

It's going to be AWFULLY embarrassing to MS when they find that they cant even GIVE their crap software away! They are also trying to give away Windows 8 and Windows Phone...problem is, people would rather use DOS than either of those products!

Zim + Dropbox = Microsoft Free (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517587)

http://zim-wiki.org
http://www.dropbox.com

Microsoft-free, but no phone apps.8(.

AFAIK.... (1)

drake2k (3458443) | about 6 months ago | (#46517759)

No code source release, therefore not free.

Blackberry users not affected (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46517795)

For quite a while now, most any android app (not Google proprietary extended) will work on new BlackBerry phones. I bet OneNote works right out of the gate.

Originally it was an app for the Tablet PC (1)

WillAdams (45638) | about 6 months ago | (#46517833)

And still has some nifty features to support pen computing.

Other apps in the space:

Xournal --- more like Microsoft Journal as the name implies (OneNote has more organizational features such as tabs &c.) (see also Jarnal)
Flash --- in its rôle as the tool which succeeds the the pen drawing tool FutureWave SmartSketch ---
Mage Software's InkBook --- (Mac OS X)
EverNote
Treenote, if I'm remembering correctly was quite interesting, but there's a placeholder page for now.
sBook --- (Mac OS X) --- nifty A.I. driven freeform address book which can be used as a general-purpose notetaking tool --- I'm still bummed the Windows version crashed when one tried to write into it on a Tablet PC and wish it had better support for graphics --- opensource: http://simson.net/ref/sbook5/ [simson.net]

The odd thing is, I loved Millenium Software's Notebook.app on NeXTstep, but haven't found occasion to buy Circus Ponies' Notebook

Mostly though, I just use Macromedia FreeHand for drawings and am trying InkSeine for notes on a ThinkPad X61 Tablet: http://research.microsoft.com/... [microsoft.com]

OneNote and OneDrive (1)

ohieaux (2860669) | about 6 months ago | (#46517901)

It looks like you are supposed to sync your OneNotes through OneDrive. Since OneDrive doesn't work with Windows 8.1, this seems like a deal breaker.

I know you can use a public Microsoft account to log in to 8.1 and use OneDrive. But seriously, who would do that? Need to cancel my Sky..err..OneDrive
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