Beta
×

Welcome to the Slashdot Beta site -- learn more here. Use the link in the footer or click here to return to the Classic version of Slashdot.

Thank you!

Before you choose to head back to the Classic look of the site, we'd appreciate it if you share your thoughts on the Beta; your feedback is what drives our ongoing development.

Beta is different and we value you taking the time to try it out. Please take a look at the changes we've made in Beta and  learn more about it. Thanks for reading, and for making the site better!

SuSE CTO & President Steps Down

Hemos posted more than 13 years ago | from the where-are-you-now-pussywillow? dept.

SuSE 113

peterprior writes: "According to this press release, Dirk Hohndel, SuSE CTO and president has left SuSE. The article simply says that 'Dirk steps away from SuSE to pursue his personal and professional interests.' It goes on to say that 'His departure from SuSE comes at a time when SuSE gathers its forces and resources to strengthen SuSE as a business positioning itself to lead the world towards what is the most powerful and acknowledged alternative to the dominance of one proprietary operating system.'"

Sorry! There are no comments related to the filter you selected.

SuSE 7.2 kicks butt... (3, Informative)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225508)

...If you haven't tried 7.2 professional, I found it mindnumbingly simple to install and get everything running quite nicely. I am very impressed with its newest release. Hopefully, it can continue on with the new CTO.

And a little </I> would be nice :-P

Re:SuSE 7.2 kicks butt... (1)

Fruit (31966) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225536)

but where is my apt-get upgrade?

Re:SuSE 7.2 kicks butt... (1)

slakhead (75639) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225644)

i know you are just being difficult but YaST makes upgrading SuSE over ftp a breeze.

Just give it the ftp server and directory, it loads all the files to be installed, you select, and it does the rest.

Re:SuSE 7.2 kicks butt... (2)

cloudmaster (10662) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225822)

Yes, you have to use Yast2 to automatically upgrade, and click a few buttons. So, you've gotta connect to the machine using "ssh -X" instead of just ssh. :) All it takes is "Yast2" as root, click "online update", select "automatic update", and cliek "next" a couple of times.


If you're a die-hard command-line person with some bandwidth to spare, then you can do something like rpm -Fvh ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/current/suse/*/*. rpm. That will update only the packages that are already on your system and have updates. The downside is that it'll download all of the packages first, which kinda sucks. It might be good to wrap that in a shell script that takes the output of "rpm -a" and just downloads those files. I won't write that here, though, because then Debian people wound't have anything to rant about anymore - and I kinda like to hear Debian people always talking about apt-get. It's cute. ;)

Re:SuSE 7.2 kicks butt... (2)

ReelOddeeo (115880) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226153)

Did you know that YaST2 runs in TEXT mode?<BR>
<BR>
Yes. I routinely ssh into a remote box, and run Yast2 and do online updates -- all in text mode.

Re:SuSE 7.2 kicks butt... (2)

cloudmaster (10662) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226322)

I'll be damned. I thought that original YaST was the text-mode version. Now that I've tried it, though, I guess I have seen that before (when I've forgotten to do an xhost +localhost before su'ing). Good point, even though it changes my rant a little. :)

Just run yast2 online_update. That's almost the same thing as "apt-get update". Ignore my earlier crap about ssh -X and whatnot.

Re:SuSE 7.2 kicks butt... (1)

max cohen (163682) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225884)

In the Debian distrubution.

Re:SuSE 7.2 kicks butt... (1, Offtopic)

Hard_Code (49548) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225580)

The entire post was a quote from the submitter, so it should all be italicized. Or conversely, quotes from posts should be normal, while commentary from editors is italicized. Whatever.

Re:SuSE 7.2 kicks butt... (0, Offtopic)

xanadu-xtroot.com (450073) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225591)

It's all in italics on my box (MDK8.1)...

Re:SuSE 7.2 kicks butt... (0, Offtopic)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225617)

When it was first posted, Hemos forgot to close the italics flag, causing the entire front page to be in italics. It was fixed within 3 minutes of my original posting.

Re:SuSE 7.2 kicks butt... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225834)

And of course the fucking stupid moderators keep moderating this offtopic. MODERATORS: Don't moderate stuff down unless it it a blatant troll! Concentrate on moderating stuff UP for people that browse at a threshold of 2 or higher. Quit being dicks!

Re:SuSE 7.2 kicks butt... (2)

Whyte Wolf (149388) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225686)

I have to agree. A couple of years ago we installed SuSE (I think it was a 5.x or something) and YaST just wasn't up to my installation needs (that I be able to teach some kid network admins how to do it too). Red Hat was the way to go then, but now...

I like the increased useability in the install on all distro's these days. makes it as simple to install Linux as to format a Windows NT 4.0 box...

That said, i still do all my admin on the command line.

Re:SuSE 7.2 kicks butt... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2226545)

I installed Windows XP OEM version a few days ago and I should say that Suse 7.1 beats it due to the fact that it requires no activation

Hey Hemos, (-1, Offtopic)

Anomolous Cow Herd (457746) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225509)

Better check those tags, buddy.

Third? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225519)

Yes? Please?

Hemos forgot to close a tag (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225523)

on the front page

Re:Hemos forgot to close a tag (-1, Troll)

evil_spork (444038) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225539)

In a related story, nobody gives a fuck. So shut the fuck up.

Re:Hemos forgot to close a tag (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225544)

Snoogans, darling.

Re:Hemos forgot to close a tag (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225655)

.__ _
@ V; .Z~M
|| :|:@ d YOU SUCK COCK
d' d\@ jf
.*\ :P #P |P
M `| W .@ Z
| .b :! d' W'
| V W # .W**=m_
| !|| @ W'_ ~V;
|| M| _ Nm4| YmjL|PN_
# W#~ YN_W'YL#W#b
|; + |f `#'#8L
W ._#L_ .#,`'||
|, .WMP' ~Mm#`Nm;d|
`| W Mmd#; .df
| M `M#@-W'
W !b WtZ'
M V; |P
|| b .@
D Y| .W'
j| 'j@'
jP' L_mq=-_@'
.Z! jf
mf .W'
.@'
.@'
.@

-ascii spork

this early post.. (-1, Troll)

evil_spork (444038) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225524)

is for the ethnic cleansing of ACs everywhere.

Re:this early post.. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225535)

Y3ah, w311 1 g07 7h1rd p057 5ux0r.

Dirk? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225526)

As in, Diggler?

I am the star!!!

I hope SuSe can make it! (2, Interesting)

cansecofan22 (62618) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225527)

I am living in Germnay right now with the US Air Force and SuSE is very big here. Just about every computer store and almost all department store computer sections sell SuSE Pro. or Personal. I use suse on my desktop and the DVD install of Pro. is great. I wish other distros would do the same. SuSE has a very polished YaST online update that works excellent and the distro is very good. It would be a shame if this distro went belly up.

Re:I hope SuSe can make it! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225576)

Actually it'd be much better if all the distros of Linux went belly-up, because everyone knows Linux sucks. Who the hell would trust an operating system written by a bunch of unhygienic GNU hippies? I sure as hell wouldn't. I think I'll stick to Windows because I trust the professional programmers at Microsoft over shit like Linux.

Re:ignorance is bliss (1)

Cyno (85911) | more than 13 years ago | (#2227190)

If ignorance is bliss you'd think American Christians would be the happiest people on earth.

Slashers (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225538)

SuSE 7.2 sucks bigtime, in its default install
there is software that has known security holes.
Information will be posted on bugtraq later today.

jump/push (2)

csbruce (39509) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225550)

Dirk steps away from SuSE to pursue his personal and professional interests.

Reads to me more like he was pushed than he jumped.

Re:jump/push (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225674)


,-. ____
,-. / ()__ \____ I'LL GIVE YOU THREE GUESSES
/ // _-()__ \-_ AS TO WHAT I DO TO MYSELF
\ || ,-. _- , / -_ ALL DAY WITH THESE ENORMOUS
\ \\/ | _- ./ -_ HANDS OF MINE HERE
\ ,-. / /"\ /"\ _-
,-. // \O/ \O/ _-
/ // `. ,-. _- HOT DAMN RIGHT ON THE FIRST TRY
\ ||`.,-. `._; _-
\ \\/ |`. -_ _-
\ / /`. `. /////\\\\
\ / `. / ,--, /
\ `. | `, \ |
`. `. / : / / _-.
`. `. ,` / | _- . \
`. `.,` / / _- . \/
`. | | _- . \ /
| `. / / _- . \ /
/ `._) /- . \ /
| `. \ ,`
/ \ ,`
| ,`
/ ,`
\ /
| |
\ / \
\ / \
| | \
| |\ \
| | \ \
| | \ \
/ | \ \
.-=":`-._ / | | \
(.-=":. `-._.` | _.` \
(.-=":. \ \
(.-=":. .-="`._ / .-="`._ /
(._,~="""=~(_,~=:....` (_,~=:....`

ascii spork

Important Stuff:

Please try to keep posts on topic.
Try to reply to other people comments instead of starting new threads.
Read other people's messages before posting your own to avoid simply duplicating what has already been said.
Use a clear subject that describes what your message is about.
Offtopic, Inflammatory, Inappropriate, Illegal, or Offensive comments might be moderated. (You can read everything, even moderated posts, by adjusting your threshold on the User Preferences Page)
Problems regarding accounts or comment posting should be sent to CowboyNeal.

Re:jump/push (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225866)

Of course he was pushed. Because he was a lousy CTO!!! He did not do any good for this company! He just wasted money and did not have a clue how to act as a CTO. He is just a normal sysadmin who happend to write some c code for xfree86.

I am more than happy that he left SuSE finaly!

HEY! (1)

John F. Ketamine (454506) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225554)

I don't know, I kind of like /. looking all italicized like that. I say keep it, it makes this big bunch of dork news look like a wedding invitation.

Re:HEY! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225579)

Eh? It's always been like that.
The story as submitted is in italics, any random ramblings the slashdot editors decide to add are in normal.

Re:HEY! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225640)

Excellent.. I was beginning to think that I was the only Del fan on /. !

Pursuing personal interests... (1)

cboscari (220346) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225556)

In the U.S, when a Executive of a company goes to "pursue his personal and professional interests." that's ususally a nice way of saying he was fired. Does it work the same way overseas? I had not heard of any financial trouble with Sude, what might be the cause of this?

Re:Pursuing personal interests... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225563)

maybe he realized that linux is dying.

re: linux is dying (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225741)

who's gonna break the news to the NYSE folks who are implementing IBMs solution based on linux (i'm too lazy to link to the /. article)?

Scary (1)

luugi (150586) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225561)

To tell you the truth I'm getting worried. But it feels like Linux companies are doing bad lately. I know that most tech companies are havin a slump I feel that Linux companies are too fragile for the times.

Feels like all I've been hearing is Top dogs in the Linux world stepping down. Do they know something we don't?

Re:Scary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225594)

Linux was here before the "Linux companies" and it will be here after.

Re:Scary (1)

freezingD (321738) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225630)

Is Suse in financial trouble? I haven't heard news indicating that they are.

Re:Scary (2)

teg (97890) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226527)

Is Suse in financial trouble? I haven't heard news indicating that they are.



They're not a public company, so there's no reason to tell anyone either (not that I know they are, I just know that there is a reason for shortage of public information on them)

Re:Scary (1)

bstadil (7110) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225636)

Dedicated Linux companies are victims of Linux's success and adoption by the major players. Notably IBM. This is good and bad depending of ones view. The old camaderie feeling is unfortunately gone but the Linux as such is of little danger (Little as the danger of IBM coopting Linux is still present). For the ones that like the "old time fiddling", start playing with Linux of PDA's or Game Consoles.

Re:Scary (2, Funny)

ldopa1 (465624) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225690)

Do they know something we don't?

Yep, they sure do. They have access to information before it goes public, and while they can't talk about it, they sure can do something about it. If you're wondering what that information is, just take a look at CNNfn.com [cnnfn.com] to get an idea...

On another front though, it does sound like he was pushed. If he "stepped down", that first step is a doozy. Hope he had a golden parachute.

On yet another front - CTO's, CFO's, CEO's, CIO's and all the rest of the acronymati leave all the time.

  • Why should we care?

( Acronymati - You heard it here first.. watch for it on your buzzword bingo cards soon!)

Main Entry: acronymati
Pronunciation: a-kr&-'ni-mä-tE
Function: noun plural
Etymology: First coined by ldopa1 on http://www.slashdot.org [slashdot.org] . An amalgamation of the two words "Acronym" and "Illuminati".
Date: 2001
1 capitalized : any of various groups claiming special professional enlightenment
2 : persons who are or who claim to be unusually promoted
3 : persons who are bolstered in their employment by complex employment agreements guaranteeing an obscene payscale

Re:Scary (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225871)

Seems to me like you talk too much and don't think enough. Try engaging the utility filter. HAND.

Re:Scary (1)

ldopa1 (465624) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226901)



As yes, another case of diarhea of the brain. While I haven't the slightest clue about your ancestry (the topic of most flames), I think I do have some valuable insight what you're trying to say. I think you're trying to achieve one or more of the following:

1: You're trying to get a job as a pundit. You write sound bytes designed to raise the ire of anyone who bothers to listen with little or no substance.

or

2:You're trying to make up for the fact that you don't have anything to contribute and felt left out.

Should I be surprised that you've decided not to be identified?

Seriously, I am hurt and offended that you don't take pleasure in reading my poignant commentary about the current state of the not-com economy. You have to admit that the acronymati do get bounced around more often than superball.

Re:Scary (1)

Fizzlewhiff (256410) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226357)

Feels like all I've been hearing is Top dogs in the Linux world stepping down. Do they know something we don't?

Yeah, there's no money in free software. But that's not a problem really until you get investors involved who want to see some returns.

Why would you worry though? If Joe CEO steps down how is that going to impact Linux in general? It might mean the end of your favorite distribution but that's not going to do much to the community as a whole other than shine a little more light on the other distros out there.

Dirk's a class act (1)

kingdon (220100) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225565)

Well, not that I know him well, but I've certainly
seen Dirk's quotes and interviews and such
on XFree86. The part I liked about this release
was seeing his email address linked in the
press release - how many "big cheese departs"
press releases have that on them? (At first I
thought they had omitted the obligatory "to
pursue personal interests" but on second look
it is there).

Re:Dirk's a class act (1)

T1girl (213375) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225611)

The part I liked about this release was seeing his email address linked in the press release - how many "big cheese departs" press releases have that on them?

Maybe this practice will become more common, in case someone has a job offer for one of these cheeses.

Don't think of it as supporting their economy. Think of it as burning their crops - Kinky Friedman on Cuban cigars.

hmm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225581)

What exactly does he mean when he says personal and professional? [suse.com]

Sounds like... (1)

mESSDan (302670) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225606)

he got canned.
His departure from SuSE comes at a time when SuSE gathers its forces and resources to strengthen SuSE as a business positioning itself to lead the world towards what is the most powerful and acknowledged alternative to the dominance of one proprietary operating system.


Why else would they mention "gathering forces and resources" when that's exactly the opposite of what happened here?

Then again, it could just be the regular PR bullcrap that most businesses seem to produce now instead of a quality product. (No Flame intended)

Re:Sounds like... (2)

volsung (378) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225632)

Or maybe he just got tired of his job. People get bored sometimes, and even CTO's are people. Not everything is an ugly conflict or a conspiracy.

The PR garbage at the end is designed to assure investors that SuSE will not collapse with the loss of their CTO. It is empty language, and doesn't say anything meaningful about SuSE's future.

Re:Sounds like... (1)

Fant (137531) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225736)

I think as a developer (working on XFree86) he
probably got tired of a managament position.
Didn't feel to comfy in that suit&tie all the
time.....

Re:Sounds like... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225789)

Actually, you would find (though you'll probably never have the opportunity) that a suit jacket is very comfortable.

Those Wacky Germans (1)

mkelley (411060) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225615)

Those wacky Germans and their world domination...didn't work the first two times so why should it work now?

Fick mich, du miserabler Hurensohn

Re:Those Wacky Germans (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225622)

fitt dish and may be the WW3 begin we will crush
you, you scumbags!

Re:Those Wacky Germans (1)

rleyton (14248) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225827)

Oh for god's sake grow up. That sort of immature broadswipe at a now very much a peace loving nation, is simply not funny, not clever, and not the sort of comment i've come to expect at /. - not to mention the sort of insult that it conveys for the many german readers of this site.

Re:Those Wacky Germans (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225981)

Ich wusste nicht, dass viele Deutscher diese Seite lesen. Bist du sicher, oder ist es nur deine Einbildung?

Re:Those Wacky Germans (1)

mkelley (411060) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226076)

1.)Your idea of peace loving [amnesty.org] is different than mine. The US isn't much better but it can be [amnesty.org] .

2.) "not the sort of comment i've come to expect at /.
- Um. look around there are comments far worst than mine.

3.)It's called comedy, let me get the definition for you:

comedy (km-d)
n. pl. comedies

A dramatic work that is light and often humorous or satirical in tone and that usually contains a happy resolution of the thematic conflict.
The genre made up of such works.
A literary or cinematic work of a comic nature or that uses the themes or methods of comedy.
Popular entertainment composed of jokes, satire, or humorous performance.
The art of composing or performing comedy.
A humorous element of life or literature: the human comedy of political campaigns.
A humorous occurrence.


It was a joke in the same way we joke about the Brit's lack of dental care, the Irish drinking problems (I'm irish), and the same way the rest of the world mocks the US by acting like a big Texan. Do you get offended by Mike Meyer's "Dieter" character, who portrays all Germans as Artsy, Fetishistic, and Cold? Laugh, sometimes it's the only way to make it through the day.


And althought my note about the german phrase wasn't in the version on the site, That quote was from Zappa's Joe's Garage.

Re:Those Wacky Germans (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2226098)

Gehen Sie weg, oder ich soll taunt Sie ein zweites Mal

Re:Those Wacky Germans (1)

tedric (8215) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226111)

Why is it that some persons at /. always have to get political and offensive towards Germans when there are some news about German companies?

According to the press release, Dirk Hohndel has been CTO at SuSE for three years now, he is in the new economy, so maybe after three years it's time for a new project for him? Being more involved in the XFree86 project sounds more interesting to me than being CTO of a Linux distribution from a developer's point of view. So let's just say thanks to him that he did a great job for the last three years for the SuSE distribution and wish him good look for his new position. Don't you think it's time for a change in your personal life every few years? Well, I do, I hate the vision to do one job at one position at one place for the next 30 years.

Sometimes you have to change the position, sometimes you have to change the company in order to go on with your professional (and personal) life. I personally don't think that he has been fired. He just wants to advance.

What I'm asking myself, has this something to do with the CEO change announced on 07/20/01?

Re:Those Wacky Germans (1)

mkelley (411060) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226534)

It was a joke!!! Ha Ha! Nothing political about it.

/me now a target of political assignation becuase of a f***ing joke.

It is good to see, however, that Germans are very defensive about their country. The same way most would be....but we also can take a joke.

(for more German jokes, please see humor.org [humor.org] )

Thanks,
Shecky

Re:Those Wacky Germans (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2226177)

Joe:

Fick mich, du miserabler hurensohn
Du miserabler hurensohn
Fick mich, du miserabler hurensohn
Streck ihn aus
Streck aus deinem heißen gelockten
Streck ihn aus
Streck aus deinem heißen gelockten
Streck ihn aus
Streck aus deinem heißen gelockten schwanz
Ah-ee-ahee-ahhhhh!
Mach es sehr schnell
Rein und raus
Magisches Schwein
Mach es sehr schnell
Rein und raus
Magisches Schwein
Bis es spritzt, spritzt, spritzt, spritzt
Feuer!
Bis es spritzt, spritzt, spritzt, spritzt
Feuer!
Aber beklecker nicht das Sofa, Sofa!
Aber beklecker nicht das Sofa, Sofa!
Aber beklecker nicht das Sofa, Sofa!
Aber beklecker nicht das Sofa, Sofa!

Sy Borg:

Pick me . . . I'm clean . . . I am also programmed for conversational English.

May I have this dance?

Joe:

I've got a better idea . . .

Fuck me, you ugly son of a bitch
You ugly son of a bitch
Fuck me, you ugly son of a bitch
Stick it out
Stick out yer hot curly weenie
Stick it out
Stick out yer hot curly weenie
Stick it out
Stick out yer hot curly weenie
Weenie . . . weenie, weenie, weenie!
Make it go fast
(In and out)
In and out,
Magical Pig
Make it go fast
(In and out)
In and out,
Magical Pig
Till it squirts (squirts), squirts (squirts), squirts (squirts), squirts (squirts)
Fire
Till it squirts (squirts), squirts (squirts), squirts (squirts), squirts (squirts)
Fire
Don't get no jizz upon that sofa, sofa
Don't get no jizz upon that sofa, sofa
Don't get no jizz upon that sofa, sofa
Don't get no jizz upon that sofa, sofa

Sy Borg:

What's a girl like you
Doing in a place like this?
Do you come here often?
Wait a minute. . .
I've got it . . .
You're an Italian . . .
What? You're Jewish?
Love your nails . . .
You must be a Libra . . .
Your place or mine?
Your place or mine?
Your place or mine?
Your place or mine?
Your place or mine?
Your place or mine?

See the chrome
Feel the chrome
Touch the chrome
Heal the chrome
See the screaming
Hot black steaming
Iridescent naugahyde python screaming
Steam Roller!

Re:Those Wacky Germans (1)

mkelley (411060) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226547)

I was debating between the line I used and the sofa line.

I wonder... (1)

rebby (25569) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225628)

I wonder what this means for SuSE Linux as it is today? SuSE recently replaced RedHat as my Linux of choice (Why you might ask, because I find that SuSE is more flexable for the things that I do).

SuSE will make it (1)

mcelli (518034) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225647)

I wouldn't worry about their financial future, all they should have to do is fudge some numbers and claim a profit, that'll make everyone happy.

Unfortunately for the dot coms, it's too late. Good luck SuSe, I'd hate to see you lose your Playstations!

Journalistic musings (1, Offtopic)

perdida (251676) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225648)

Okay u have a press release. That's news.

Then you have some fud from it.

That is not news.

You passed on a piece of what Kuro5hin calls "Mindless Link Propagation.." To make it a story, some analysis of the significance of this fact, the CTO/President stepped down is called for.

I know nothing about this particular company, but the reasons for the step down could be either be a) truly personal reasons,

b) Hohndel doesn't like whatever SuSE is doing to "lead the world towards what is the most powerful and acknowledged alternative to the dominance of one proprietary operating system,"

c) SuSE doesn't like the guy,

d) some horrific scandal,

e) The mob,

f) Aliens.

I suppose you expect the posters to contribute A, B, C, D, E and F.

But, if you don't do a little more research you might as well re-name Slashdot to "Mindless Link Propagation."

This is not k5 (2)

wiredog (43288) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225668)

Guess what, slashdot is MLP. Always has been. MLP, at k5, is the slashdot of k5.

One other thing. K5 isn't slashdot either.

Why I rated you a 1 (1)

slaytanic killer (264559) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225677)

Slashdot is not Kuro5hin [notslashdot.org] .

Wait, the ratings don't work the same way here...

long live (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225670)

Long live microsoft. abadon all hope ye geeks...Bill will rule...

Re:long live (the grateful dead) (1)

Glanz (306204) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226717)

In the land of the dark (Micro$oft)
the ship of the sun (*nix)
is driven by the grateful dead. (.......)please fill in the blank.

SuSE is an excellent linux choice (1)

stevarooski (121971) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225703)

When I first decided to get my feet wet in linux, SuSE was the install I chose, unfortunately because the fellow idiot at CompUSA (I wanted a boxed version with a MANUAL for my first try) nodded his head vigorously and told me that it would be the best for me.

Well, I think that was SuSE 5.x something. . .At the time, the documentation stunk--I thought--really. . .the translation on the manual was incomplete and horrible, although and I thought that the direction to 'masterbooten' was pretty funny. ;o) In addition, I, a windows neophyte, had to learn to compile and install the tulip driver for my network card in order to get networking. That was a trip in itself.

Now, with SuSE 7.x, its freakin easy to get going with their new installer, tulip is included (I'm pretty sure), and everything goes so smooth a monkey could set up a great linux box. They're moving in the right direction!

I couldn't say this a few years ago, but NEWBIES, GO GET SUSE! Its cheap, comes with a TON of stuff, has a nice manual, and the installation is VERY smooth.

-s

Re:SuSE is an excellent linux choice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225958)

Sorry, but this is the exact opposite of my experience.
SuSE is a parasite. They live of proprietary configuration tools (YaST, Sax) and a proprietary installer. If you're a developer, SuSE is definitely the worst distribution out there.

Red Hat, Debian, Mandrake etc. are all ok - but SuSE? No thanks, I don't want Microsoft Linux.

Re:SuSE is an excellent linux choice (1)

3247 (161794) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226070)

"Sorry, but this is the exact opposite of my experience.
SuSE is a parasite. They live of proprietary configuration tools (YaST, Sax) and a proprietary installer. If you're a developer, SuSE is definitely the worst distribution out there.

Red Hat, Debian, Mandrake etc. are all ok - but SuSE? No thanks, I don't want Microsoft Linux."

And Red Hat, Debian, Mandrake etc. don't feature proprietary configuration tools?


Re:SuSE is an excellent linux choice (1)

joestar (225875) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226302)

"And Red Hat, Debian, Mandrake etc. don't feature proprietary configuration tools?"

Absolutely not - that's a big difference.

Re:SuSE is an excellent linux choice (2)

ncc74656 (45571) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226653)

"And Red Hat, Debian, Mandrake etc. don't feature proprietary configuration tools?"
Absolutely not - that's a big difference.
...and what, exactly, are RPM, apt-get, linuxconf, etc.? Those are package managers and system configurators tied to other Linux distros. YaST just rolls all of the same functionality into one program. As noted earlier, RPM is also included since SuSE packages are RPM-based. Personally, I would prefer if SuSE used tarballs as I find them easier to deal with at the command line than proprietary formats such as RPM and DEB. SuSE works well enough for other people's systems that I need to be able to keep going without too much fuss, though I prefer LFS these days for my personal systems.

Re:SuSE is an excellent linux choice (1)

izzertaq (304006) | more than 13 years ago | (#2227300)

You can modify and freely redistribute RPM, apt, linuxconf, and others under the GPL. You cannot do this with YaST -- this is why there are no SuSE-based distros.

Re:SuSE is an excellent linux choice (2)

crucini (98210) | more than 13 years ago | (#2227394)

...and what, exactly, are RPM, apt-get, linuxconf, etc.? Those are package managers and system configurators tied to other Linux distros.

  1. RPM is licensed under the GPL. [rpmdp.org]
  2. Apt-get is part of the Debian Operating System, which is licensed under the GPL. [debian.org]
  3. Linuxconf is licensed under the GPL. [solucorp.qc.ca]
  4. YaST is not free software. [cglug.org]
Tools 1-3 are free software. They are not "tied" to any distro, contrary to your assertion.

Re:SuSE is an excellent linux choice (1)

chadm1967 (144897) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226732)

I agree completely!

SuSE has come so far over the past few years. With each new version, it gets easier and easier to install and configure.

its all true (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225707)

most suppositions made by some of these replies speak the truth.

Thats all I can say.

SuSE has come a long way (1)

Marvin_Runyon (513878) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225712)

A couple of years ago we installed SuSE (I think it was a 5.x or something) and YaST just wasn't up to my installation needs (that I be able to teach some kid network admins how to do it too). Red Hat was the way to go then, but now...

I like the increased useability in the install on all distro's these days. makes it as simple to install Linux as to format a Windows NT 4.0 box...

That said, i still do all my admin on the command line

Are you kidding? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225828)

Unless you have some nice auto install scripts done, installing NT 4 can be a nightmare. The setup program is not very helpful and the interface before you get to the GUI is laughable as most of the time you have to reboot and restart the install if you select the wrong option.

Also as if you did n't have a BIOS that supported bootable CD's you had to make those 3 disks. This would be fine if the setup routine was n't the most picky with your disks. For example it copies the files to your disks, verifies the files.. but when you get to the install a file from the disk it fails!

No cause for alarm (1)

HPoole (515526) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225728)

Dirk is a very bright man who probably made this decision with great care. It is possible that Suse is in the midst of being purchased.
Suse is a very stong company, especially in Germany, and they would make an interesting aquisition target for RedHat or another tech firm.

Dirk Hohndel (5, Informative)

alistair (31390) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225729)

Dirk used to work at Deutsche Bank where he was head of Unix Strategy. You can see a short biography of him [suse.com] at the main SuSe site.

He was heavily involved in the XFree86 project, which SuSE have supported for a number of years, in addition to their support for KDE, OpenLDAP etc.. There is an interview with him at Changelog [lwn.net] .

I think he will be missed at SuSE but they employ over 220 people worldwide and support many more development effors, while making a profit, so don't write them off on the basis of this announcement.

I am currently running SuSE 7.2 on both my PC and Laptop. It is the best distribution I have used to date and the Support for XFree86 and KDE2.x is useful and appreciated.
One interesting observation concerns a recent install I did on my IBM X21 Laptop, when SuSE was installed from DVD it installed completely in under an hour and correctly recognised network card and video Driver. Installing Windows 2000 on the other partition failed to recognise network or video card, it took 5 hours of downloads to fix this. Power management also works a treat on the laptop by defaut, credit and thanks to SuSE for this, and good luck for the future.

Re:Dirk Hohndel (1)

GiorgioG (225675) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226407)

One interesting observation concerns a recent install I did on my IBM X21 Laptop, when SuSE was installed from DVD it installed completely in under an hour and correctly recognised network card and video Driver. Installing Windows 2000 on the other partition failed to recognise network or video card, it took 5 hours of downloads to fix this.

Isn't this a little ignorant? Because it took you 5 hours to figure out your Win2K problem, doesn't mean it's the OSes fault. W2K took 45 minutes to install on my machine and everything was recognized on my system on 1st boot. OTOH, when I installed RH7, it refused to boot properly at all. I don't go around saying "Win2K is better than Linux 'cause I got it to work right away" because I wasn't knowledgeable enough to know what the problem was.

Re:Dirk Hohndel (1)

manly (69244) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226637)

One interesting observation concerns a recent install I did on my IBM X21 Laptop, when SuSE was installed from DVD it installed completely in under an hour and correctly recognised network card and video Driver. Installing Windows 2000 on the other partition failed to recognise network or video card, it took 5 hours of downloads to fix this.

Isn't this a little ignorant? Because it took you 5 hours to figure out your Win2K problem, doesn't mean it's the OSes fault. W2K took 45 minutes to install on my machine and everything was recognized on my system on 1st boot. OTOH, when I installed RH7, it refused to boot properly at all. I don't go around saying "Win2K is better than Linux 'cause I got it to work right away" because I wasn't knowledgeable enough to know what the problem was.

And can't you read? All he said was his observation, and that it took 5 hours of downloads to remedy the situation. If you've ever downloaded drivers for Thinkpad notebooks, you'd understand he's not joking around. He never waved his hands, and said that proves Linux is superior to Windows.

By your logic, we should think you're a dumb ass, because you couldn't even get Red Hat to boot up. You weren't "knowledgeable" enough to fix the problem, right?

Re:Dirk Hohndel (1)

GiorgioG (225675) | more than 13 years ago | (#2227129)

And can't you read? All he said was his observation, and that it took 5 hours of downloads to remedy the situation. If you've ever downloaded drivers for Thinkpad notebooks, you'd understand he's not joking around. He never waved his hands, and said that proves Linux is superior to Windows.

"interesting observations" are usually "isn't it ironic..." statements. They imply something without having to "wave your hands." Take a lit class and learn about interpretation.
5 Hours of downloading on a 56K - I'd believe it. How long does it take to download a Linux distro on a 56K?

By your logic, we should think you're a dumb ass, because you couldn't even get Red Hat to boot up. You weren't "knowledgeable" enough to fix the problem, right?

By your logic, both of you are jackasses for using a 56K line to download drivers for this thing ;-)

Time for SuSE to innovate... (1)

rinkjustice (24156) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225732)

Maybe this is the much needed "kick in the pants" SuSE needs to rejuvinate their product and workforce. In professional sports, replacing the head coach often proves effective in refocusing the team - and as we know - sports and business nowadays is the same damn thing.


If SuSE wants to lead the Linux world (and they have a chance), they're going to have to truly innovate to differenciate themselves from the other distributions, not just incrementally improve.

I REALLY hate to say this... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225778)

...but this is just more "proof" for some people that "you can't make money selling free software."

I've long believed that the only way you can make money selling free software is if you don't have to pay to develop it (since that's a huge burden to bear), and you either you really kick ass in the support market or you cook up some kind of subscription-style service that people will actually pay for.

Insiders in the Linux business have been predicting a heavy consolidation of commercial Linux providers for some time, and I expect it to happen sooner rather than later.

ahh life is good... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2225792)

jerking off while browsing at -1... mmm mmm mmm...

Do you know about Quantum computing? (1)

ioman1 (474363) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225831)

I have been trying to post articles on Slashdot for a month now, but they are insistant on publishing other articles. I just posted an article on Quantum Computing. I think you will all enjoy it quite a bit. For those of you who do not know what Quantum computing is, the article explains it quite well. Here is the link [designtechnica.com] . You can post comments on the article below it. Please tell me what you think.

Only problem is the quotes (1)

Skevin (16048) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225907)

Too bad the SuSE distro treats all quotes and double quotes as control characters... Has anyone else noticed that the have to hit the single quote button twice to get a measly single quote output to the OS? And that if you hit other characters right after a quote, you sometimes get those funky foreign characters?

Solomon

Just choose nodeadkeys (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2226276)

These "funky characters" are called accents. You might want to change your keyboard layout to accomodate your needs by using yast.

Rats are running away from the sinking ship. (1)

melted (227442) | more than 13 years ago | (#2225997)

Rats are running away from the sinking ship. That's all. First - layoffs, then - running rats

Good Grief. (2)

Kasreyn (233624) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226038)

'Dirk steps away from SuSE to pursue his personal and professional interests.' It goes on to say that 'His departure from SuSE comes at a time when SuSE gathers its forces and resources to strengthen SuSE as a business positioning itself to lead the world towards what is the most powerful and acknowledged alternative to the dominance of one proprietary operating system.'"

(sigh) When an Open Source company starts speaking in corporatese, it's time to say goodbye. Was nice knowing ya SuSe, I guess the ride's over.

This one reminded me of a Dilbert strip:

"I'd like to dialogue with you about utilizing resources..."

Disgusting.

-Kasreyn

Re:Good Grief. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 13 years ago | (#2226316)

SuSE has always been a professionally run operation, so it comes to no surprise that their communication deploys business-speech. SuSE is not closely tied to the concept of open-source which is indicated by the license of their primer configuration tool (YaST). At the core of their most famous product sits an old-style propietary tool.

The success or failure of SuSE is not dictated by the affairs of open-source. Of course, that is a valid hypothesis until reality proves me wrong. :-)

Re:Good Grief. (1)

ennuiner (144711) | more than 13 years ago | (#2227207)

When an Open Source company starts speaking in corporatese, it's time to say goodbye.
Um, yeah, its a German company. They probably have PR people to translate from German to Corporate English, not Hacker English.

Smidge of insight (1)

tinahdee (135200) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226174)

The PR rep had a couple of short comments that, while not earth-shaking in their revelation, at least shed a little bit of light on Hohndel's mindset-- here at Newsforge. [newsforge.com]

IBM+linux == success but not mom+pop shop + linux (1)

Hooya (518216) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226272)

it's interesting to see how Big corps can make bucks out of linux while the small companies who where there from the start are faltering. is this another form of corporate buyout..? it's along the same lines as the local bookstore never making it while has no trouble finding customers..

Quick Turn Around (1)

MadCow-ard (330423) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226273)

It seems that the August article on the "Linux Chameleon" in Linux mag was a bit uninformed as the instability of his position there. Its a great article but the you'll have to grab the print copy of it since the website [linux-mag.com] seems only to carry the TOC. Its a crying shame to see him get his walking papers. But, needless to say, I think a "keep an eye on that one" is appropriate, whatever his "personal insterests" turn out to be.

This does not mean the Company is going down! (1)

Martigan80 (305400) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226487)

SuSE has nothing bad against them. They have been a great distro and will continue to improve. I run 7.2 and have no problems installing it on a PIII 450. A big bounus is that the programs used aren't specialy crafted for SuSE, they are the original.

Dilbert anyone? (1)

mkaiser (20342) | more than 13 years ago | (#2226955)

His departure from SuSE comes at a time when SuSE gathers its forces and resources to strengthen SuSE as a business positioning itself to lead the world towards what is the most powerful and acknowledged alternative to the dominance of one proprietary operating system.


This sounds just like the PalmPilot Dilbert mission statement generator...

Wake UP 'Lil SuSE! (1)

Thrazzle (214721) | more than 13 years ago | (#2227141)


SuSE is a great distro.

Now you pop in a CD, answer a couple questions about language choice and location and go watch TV for 20 minutes and your new linux box is ready.

Works great. No fuss no muss no outside assistance.

You can leech RedHat RPM's too.

Hang on SuSE... many are just starting to see the green light!

Thrazzle

Load More Comments
Slashdot Login

Need an Account?

Forgot your password?