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Evolution Bug-Hunt!

CmdrTaco posted more than 11 years ago | from the just-cuz-ya-can't-code-doesn't-mean-ya-can't-help dept.

Ximian 229

Matt Beale writes "Ximian is slated to release Evolution (a mail client for Gnome/Linux) by October 1st. In preperation, they are offering awards for finding bugs in Evolution! A important open project to participate in, AND i can win a palm VII, sweet!" My bug was that it kept crashing ;) October release is ambitious but very cool.

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229 comments

i wil kick your ass (-1, Troll)

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Re:i wil kick your ass (0, Offtopic)

ew8 (459688) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232283)

doh!

Re:i wil kick your ass (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232307)

Thats great. Keep up the good work.
I'm very happy about this version of slashcode
and how liberal it is.

Re:i wil kick your ass (-1, Troll)

I WILL KICK YOUR ASS (263791) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232365)

I'm touched.... I think I'm going to cry...

...and if I ever meet you, I WILL KICK YOUR ASS!!

Re:i wil kick your ass (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232537)

Will you do the ass-kicking personally, or will you let the ass-kicking machine do it?

This is not good at all.. (-1)

FuckYourAss (462542) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232554)

..not good at all, mate.

I found a problem (1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232277)

I can't find Microsoft Word.

Re:I found a problem (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232284)

You can probably find it here [goatse.cx] .

windows (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232286)

well there's about 65,000 bugs in windows 2000.

Re:windows (1)

manon (112081) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232357)

And that is the answer on the big question: "why doesn't Micro$oft reward bugfinders"!

Re:windows (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232512)

simple.

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release timeline (2, Insightful)

Proud Geek (260376) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232292)

Ximian probably has to release quickly. I can't imagine they are in great shape financially. It could easily be that a quick launch is key to their survival, either by allowing them to show product and attract investors, or even by giving them some sort of revenue stream.

i love ximian, but (1)

S. Allen (5756) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232340)

what exactly is their revenue model. I hope it's not just selling this [ximian.com] or this [ximian.com] ...

and I think they dropped the whole services idea.

Re:i love ximian, but (1)

EvlPenguin (168738) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232480)

Nah, they sell t-shirts too.

Re:i love ximian, but (3, Informative)

Skeezix (14602) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232498)

No, it's not just selling shrink-wrapped versions of their software. A few examples of how they're bringing in revenue:

Re:release timeline (2, Funny)

kilgore_47 (262118) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232364)

I can't imagine they are in great shape financially.

I think their Stuffed Monkey [ximian.com] sales will keep them afloat...

Re:release timeline (2)

ConsumedByTV (243497) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232505)

Rupert is not just a stuffed monkey. He is so much more, with thos cute button eyes you can see your boss behind you when your writing rtml.

Re:release timeline (3, Interesting)

jbrw (520) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232585)

Except when I try to buy Rupert I get:

[snip]
Warning: PostgreSQL query failed: ERROR: parser: parse error at or near "and" in /var/www/html/xproddetail.php on line 11

Warning: Supplied argument is not a valid PostgreSQL result resource in /var/www/html/xproddetail.php on line 13

Warning: PostgreSQL query failed: ERROR: parser: parse error at or near "," in /var/www/html/xproddetail.php on line 18

Warning: Cannot add header information - headers already sent by (output started at /var/www/html/xproddetail.php:11) in /var/www/include/shoplib.inc on line 50
[snip]

D'oh!

...j

MS business model!! (1)

GdoL (460833) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232475)

This really seems to be similar to what people think is the MS business model. Buggy software to the masses, they will find the bugs, then sell them a little improved version, wait for more bugs, sell again,... And do a lot of cash in the mean time. And build a reputation of constantly improve your software.

Gome is great!!

Bug.. already? (4, Funny)

orangesquid (79734) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232297)

I found a bug -- it doesn't execute Outlook macro worms correctly!

October release is ambitious but very cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232300)

Is "ambitious" a euphemism for "half-baked"?

Evolution 0.9 "shipping" now (3, Informative)

PCM2 (4486) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232312)

Don't forget that Evolution 0.9 is shipping as part of the shrinkwrapped Ximian Desktop product. Though that part of the suite, at least, is labeled quite plainly as a "preview release," it's definitely integrated into their overall office productivity offering right now -- no longer a separate download. (This, as of the LinuxWorld Expo in San Francisco.)

Re:Evolution 0.9 "shipping" now (2)

luge (4808) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232556)

Actually, the version on the CD is 0.11.

Re:Evolution 0.9 "shipping" now (1)

titrisol (248285) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232558)

And it comes in Mandrake-Linux 8.0 too.
I like Evolution 0.9 as mailer.

This is moving backwards (2, Funny)

allknowing (304084) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232317)

This will make programmers WANT to put holes in software, then they will be a part of this and somehow "FIND" these holes at a later date.

Re:This is moving backwards (1)

kilgore_47 (262118) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232389)

A contest like this surely states in the rules that ximian employees and/or anyone who has anything whatsoever to do with the project is excluded from participating (or from receiving prizes - i guess they should still let ximian staff submit bugs ;-)

Re:This is moving backwards (2, Informative)

silicon_synapse (145470) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232432)

A contest like this surely states in the rules that ximian employees and/or anyone who has anything whatsoever to do with the project is excluded from participating (or from receiving prizes - i guess they should still let ximian staff submit bugs ;-)

Sure enough, you're right: http://www.ximian.com/devzone/projects/evolution-e ligibility.html [ximian.com]

too bad MSFT doesn't do this (1)

Eslyjah (245320) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232342)

if i had a nickel for every bug in windows 95...

Re:too bad MSFT doesn't do this (2)

JordoCrouse (178999) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232372)

if i had a nickel for every bug in windows 95...

Gates already does....

here's a bug (1, Flamebait)

Greylin (72313) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232346)

it *bugs* me that you have to download all sorts of extra libraries just to get the fscking thing to work...why can't it just be one download and install with the favorite package mode of your choice -- ./config|make|make install, rpm, or dpkg?

I think I'll stick with sylpheed...

Re:here's a bug (2)

SquadBoy (167263) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232478)

apt-get install does it all in one download. Maybe more than one package but it is as close to possible of what you are asking.

Re:here's a bug (1)

MeNeXT (200840) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232479)

That is why you should order a CD. If everything was simple on a download the only people who would buy the CD's would be those connected by modem.

Re:here's a bug (2, Interesting)

PingXao (153057) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232492)

That's not a bug, it's a feature! Seriously, though, having to download all that extra stuff put me off as well. I just know that at least 3 of those things will require me to download and install something else besides. No thanks. I just don't have the time or inclination right now.

As you said, if it was just one tarball to deal with then I'd have it running already!

Re:here's a bug (1)

diamondc (241058) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232583)

yeah, just let them rewrite every library that has the features they want, into one single program. smart thinking, huh?

Re:here's a bug (2, Informative)

vukicevic (199951) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232548)


If you are compiling from source, you will indeed have to build a number of prerequisite libraries that track Evolution development, such as gal. This is no different than including all these libraries inside the evolution source tree -- except that these libraries are also used by other projects, and as such are independent modules. Now that bonobo, oaf, and others are stable, this isn't as big of a problem.



If you just want to install Ximian Evolution, you can easily use Red Carpet to do it -- it will figure out exactly what packages you need and take care of the whole problem for you.

Dilbert? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232351)

Isn't there an old Dilbert cartoon about this sort of thing? Programmers financing vacations by "finding" bugs?

Re:Dilbert? (1)

AnonymousComrade (465177) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232363)

Like Wally said: "I'm gonna code me a minivan!!!"

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Gnome/Linux? (-1, Troll)

sllort (442574) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232360)

Shouldn't that be GNU/Gnome/Linux?

Might want to update that.

Re:Gnome/Linux? (0, Offtopic)

snubber1 (56537) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232391)

dam nobody better click on this link if they want to sleep at night/ever have a sex life again.

Re:Gnome/Linux? (0, Offtopic)

silicon_synapse (145470) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232457)

Just the other day I was wondering about the purpose of the URL following the second colon in Google's cache URLs. You can apparantly change them to anything and it doesn't affect the target. The address is apparently stored in the RxCMn4UmiOU.

EG: http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:RxCMn4UmiOU:w ww.slashdot.org doesn't point to slashdot

Re:Gnome/Linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232536)

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Re:Gnome/Linux? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232467)

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Re:Gnome/Linux? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232523)

shit man? very punny!

Re:Gnome/Linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232559)

That's a good website, too bad I'm using lynx and can't see the images :( Can someone tell me what the image looks like?

Important? (3, Insightful)

Jeffrey Baker (6191) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232367)

Someone explain to me why this is important, as asserted by this slashdot article. It's a mail user agent, no more, no less. It doesn't allow people to collaborate more efficiently. It isn't groupware. It's just an MUA with LDAP, an RSS viewer, and a calendar. Fun, but why important?

Re:Important? (1)

ethereal (13958) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232378)

It's important if it allows you to replace Microsoft Outlook, which is one of the last reasons people are stuck with Windows desktops. Or at least it was supposed to replace Outlook; I don't know if it really does or not.

Re:Important? (2)

NonSequor (230139) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232428)

It's got a scheduling component, a to do list, an address book. There's already some stuff for calendar sharing. It's supposed to eventually synch with Palms but I don't think that's ready yet. It is already very nice though.

Re:Important? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232381)

Because here's how it works:

Take any old shit. Make it open source.

"YEAH OPEN SOURCE SHINOLA"

Re:Important? (1)

stikves (127823) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232460)

Because it is supposed to be what you have listed above and also slashdot community is interested in linux companies.

It's currently that (more or less). (2)

Chuck Chunder (21021) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232488)

But it's groupware ambitions are clear. It's important not because of what it currently is (A pretty decent MUA AFAICT, vfolders are sweet), but for what it credibly promises to be in the future.

Not too abitious (4, Interesting)

rgmoore (133276) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232368)

October release is ambitious but very cool.

I don't think it's that ambitious. I've been using Evolution as my primary mail client for almost a year. It's improved a lot in that time, and for the past several months it's been quite reliable and has all the features I need. I don't think that getting it up to release quality on that schedule is an unreasonable expectation.

Aren't they already behind? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232369)

According to the page linked above, they were supposed to have the b3 ("UI/Performance freeze") version available on the 24th. It's the 29th and they've only got b2 ("bug fixes") up...

Not a good sign that it'll be ready by the 1st of oct...

Better Idea. (5, Funny)

PopeAlien (164869) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232376)

..It'd be much cheaper if they just used the DMCA to arrest people that find bugs.. Hey, it works for Adobe.

Award? (1)

hwaara (226026) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232379)

Yay, so if you win, you receive a free copy of the buggy operating system? Who-hoo!

Re:Award? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232444)

you're retarded.

MyEvolution Bug? (1)

idonotexist (450877) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232384)

Why is it I cannot add a rss/xml feed to myevolution? Yes, I see the option to add news, but once I input the url, nothing changes. The news source is not added to the left or right window. I'm using debian with ximian btwian, and I do input a valid feed.

Re:MyEvolution Bug? (1)

TwP (149780) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232487)

Might wan to report this to Ximian and not /.

OT Why the delay? (0, Offtopic)

notext (461158) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232394)

I am wondering a bit about browsers. I have this machine which is using mozilla on linux. I open it up and slashdot has this story, Evolution Bug Hunt, as the latest story.

Now I have a windows machine next to me, and since I had just done some fiddling with the firewall, I opened up IE to make sure it was still connected to the outside world. Sure enough slashdot comes up but P2P goes to war was the latest story.

I hadn't used it today so obviously it was a cached page. I decide hrmph, i try reloading page, p2p still on top. So I go to my trusty laptop running win2k and IE5.5 and sure enough it still shows p2p goes to war as top story. This is after at least 3 minutes mind you. The laptop hadn't been to slashdot in weeks so it obviously had just retrieved the page, right? How come it is a story behind then? Is this a browser thing or a slashdot thing.

MAYBE YOU SHOULD FUCK A JAR OF SPAGHETTI (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232414)

maybe you should fuck a jar of spaghetti.

This is tastier (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232526)

Yum! [stileproject.com]

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Re:OT Why the delay? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232426)

actually, they just took this article off the front page. It was there one minute, gone the next on my machine. I can't figure out if they moved it to a section, or into limbo, but here we are.

Re:OT Why the delay? (0, Offtopic)

ethereal (13958) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232452)

The front page caching is pretty screwed up here too (NS 4.7x on Solaris) - the P2P article has been displayed as 3 of 8 comments for an hour or so now, which definitely doesn't match the actual story. Did somebody's perl cron job choke? :)

Re:OT Why the delay? (1, Offtopic)

kilgore_47 (262118) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232581)

The front page caching is pretty screwed up here too (NS 4.7x on Solaris) - the P2P article has been displayed as 3 of 8 comments for an hour or so now, which definitely doesn't match the actual story. Did somebody's perl cron job choke? :)

The slashdot front page has been odd all day. This story has been up for quite some time, and after a reload the front page still just says "Read More" and doesn't list it as having attached comments. I have my config setup to send me a message when I get replies to my posts, and that hasn't been happening either. I've seen a couple replies today and the front page still says "0 new messages".

funny, the /. descussion about evolution bugs turns to a discussion about /. bugs...

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Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232395)

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gtk (-1)

infojack (25600) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232397)

They used gkt/gnome instead of qt/kde. I find that a big bug.

I have a hand spring. (2)

ConsumedByTV (243497) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232407)

I want to be able to sync it to my desktop. Does evoloution or any other program with all the normal features work? I am looking for a calandar, contacts, perhaps even an emulator to run it. Any Ideas about this? I mean outlook can sync with my hand spring, can evoloution?

Re:I have a hand spring. (2)

dhamsaic (410174) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232427)

Evolution supports Palm devices. I would imagine that it supports Handspring Visor as well, but I don't have one to test it with...

Re:I have a hand spring. (2)

ConsumedByTV (243497) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232557)

I couldnt find this info on their site, could you like me to your source?

Re:I have a hand spring. (2)

NonSequor (230139) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232473)

The Palm device sync isn't ready yet. You can get it by compiling it in yourself though.

Re:I have a hand spring. (2)

luge (4808) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232572)

Palm Sync will be in the packaged binaries soon; hopefully next week.

Re:I have a hand spring. (2)

ConsumedByTV (243497) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232575)

From where can i get this or instructions on how to do it?

Great idea! (1)

Cyno (85911) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232413)

This is very cool. Insentive to help out. I'll try to take a look at some of ximians software starting next week, but I'm not at all optimistic. The last time I looked at ximian software they wanted me to download the gnome source from gnome.org and wouldn't support distributions like slackware. I'll see what I can do and try to include this in the distribution I'm currently working on, if all goes well maybe I'll even find a bug.

Let's go back to black & white (1)

Wrexs0ul (515885) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232421)

Oh where oh where has my little pine gone?

I don't know about you guys, but I actually like a nice quick and easy telnet-into mail reader over and beyond outlook et al.. It's great being able to check my email from work/university/friend's house using what's normally pre-installed software (a telnet client) on every OS :)

-Guy Incognito

Re:Let's go back to black & white (1)

TwP (149780) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232500)

Pine, it's not just a car freshener anymore!

I do like pine myself, but telnet is way evil - cleartext passwords and login names :( Now pine and SSH is a good combination and a little more secure. My only remaining beef is that pine does not currently support the "Maildir" format made popular by qmail. <sigh/>

wait... (1)

fjordboy (169716) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232441)

if it is opensource...i could configure it, write my own bugs, and then find them!!! Woohoo! I'm gonna write my self a couple of Palm VII's tonight.

Re:wait... (1)

EvlPenguin (168738) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232510)

if it is opensource...i could configure it, write my own bugs, and then find them!!!

Uh, no. That's just stupid.

Fnord? Hail Eris!

SlackPack (1)

(startx) (37027) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232443)

I found a bug! No slack pack availible, or even source gzip'd tarball for that matter.....

Ximian and Distribution Support (1, Troll)

stcanard (244581) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232449)

In all honesty, there are three things that Ximian needs to do quite quickly in order to get a wider distribution:

1. Support more than Red Hat

2. Support more then Red Hat

3. Well, you get the idea

I was hooked as a user of Ximian Gnome for some time, and even went through the effort of downloading and compiling Evolution. Then they stopped making builds that would work on Suse 7.x. After getting frustrated waiting ("any time now") I gave up and installed KDE to see how it had come along. Now Ximian is really going to have to do something special to get me to go back.

Watching the Suse mailing lists, I'm not the only on in this situation. Outside of North America (and even inside if I'm any indication) Suse is quite heavily used -- it is definitely not a good idea to alienate a potentially large user base

Ximian supports Suse 7.x (2)

Skeezix (14602) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232531)

Ximian just recently added support for Suse 7.x. I'm not sure what you mean about supporting more than Red Hat. Currently Ximian supports something like 18 different platforms. Mandrake 8 is also now supported. You can get it here [ximian.com] .

Slackware ??? (1)

quade_79 (301143) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232555)

What about Slackware 8©0, or any slackware for that matter© As a slackware user, I'm getting very tired of people hiding the source tarballs in some obscure ftp directory, and putting rpm's and deb packages right up front, or worse yet, net even making the source tarballs available© I know, I know, I could use CVS to get the source, but I like the idea of using some version that has been "blessed" by someone as stable, or semi-stable© Half the time the CVS sources don't even compile© I'm not asking for slackware ©tgz packages, just a little curtacy©

as far as I'm concerned that is the biggest bug of them all©©©

Exchage Client (1)

(startx) (37027) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232463)

But will it work with an exchange server, or do I have to keep loading Outlook in wine?

Re:Exchage Client (2)

Skeezix (14602) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232545)

From the Ximian Evolution FAQ [ximian.com] :

Q: If we are a Windows based company with Unix users, can we use Ximian Evolution?

A: If your server uses standard open protocols like LDAP, IMAP, POP, and SMTP, you can use Evolution with it. You can share addresses with vCards and calendar items with iCal appointments. We do not, however, support proprietary protocols at this time.
...

This applies to Exchange. You can use it with exchange if you're using industry-standard open protocols.

Bugs?? Hehe? This is fore me. (2)

magi (91730) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232481)

Computers hate me. Software hates me. Gods of Information must be angry at me, for some unknown reason. This kind of challenges are just made for me.

But really. I haven't seen a mail client better than Pine so far. Pine is small on the screen (80x25 or whatever you like). It reuses the entire view area in all different views. It's fast to use with keys, and keyboard control of most Linux/KDE/Gnome software is next to nothing. One of the best features of Pine is saving messages by the username of the sender (in incoming mail), and by the username of the receiver (in outgoing mail). 10x faster than moving messages to a long folder list with mouse. Yack, I hate (computer) mice (furry ones are ok though).

NO! (0, Troll)

Artemis Entreri (41022) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232483)

Matt Beale writes "Ximian is slated to release Evolution (a mail client for Gnome/Linux) by October 1st. In preperation, they are offering awards for finding bugs in Evolution! A important open project to participate in, AND i can win a palm VII, sweet!" My bug was that it kept crashing ;) October release is ambitious but very cool.

-=-=-=-

NO!!!! IT IS NOT VERY COOL! BECAUSE GNOME SUCKS JUST LIKE ROB MALDA SUCKS MY HAIRY BALLS!!!!!

I have a bug for you, Mr. Taco (0, Flamebait)

daemonc (145175) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232495)

What really bugs me is CmdrTaco, promoting stupidity on Slashdot by making dumbass comments like, "I have a bug, it keeps crashing."

Mr. Taco, by now you have surely been bitch-slapped by enough people who do real work on free software projects to know that that is a pathetic excuse for a bug. When whiny leeches like yourself submit bugs like that, the developers might ponder it for about .5 seconds before hitting the delete key.

What version were you using? On what operating system? What exactly were you doing when it crashed? Can you reproduce it? What are the steps that trigger the crash?

Or do you not really care about contributing? Perhaps you are too busy leading your army of trolls in insulting the efforts of those how spend their time creating software that everyone can freely use.

Re:I have a bug for you, Mr. Taco (1)

max cohen (163682) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232518)

Maybe he was joking about all the pathetic bug reports that are offered during bug bash fests...I dunno.

Addressbook (2)

cnkeller (181482) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232507)

I've been keeping up to date with the nightly snapshots (okay they are really semi-nightly). Very stable. Only had one go bad I think; it was a gtkhtml problem.

Evolution actually rocks, mostly. I was very impressed that they simplified encrytion so it works just like Outlook. Press this button to sign then press this to encrypt. Very nice.

Now, how about enabling the address book?

Re:Addressbook (1)

cnkeller (181482) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232516)

Whoops, as someone pointed out you have to create sub-folders, then add contacts. Strange. Ah well, rant revoked. Well done.

Re:Addressbook (2, Informative)

Nodatadj (28279) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232551)

I think this is caused by the addressbook.db file in the root contacts folder being in the wrong format. runing killev and removing it, then restarting evolution should fix that, but you'll lose any contacts in that folder, so you might not want to do that :)

Great Idea (1)

thetechweenie (60363) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232538)

Wow, has any other company ever done this before? This is a great idea, and I use the software anyway. It's funny that a GNU based software developer would basically pay you to find bugs, but you have to pay M$ to get betas of their software...

Evolution bug hunt (1)

Doctor Fishboy (120462) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232539)

Great! Who's getting the Head and Shoulders truck then?

DMCA.... (1)

blugecko (152079) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232542)

Yeah, they submit the bugs and then get sued for violating the DMCA, they win a palm and a 10 year federal prison sentence, yeah!

I found a small one... (1)

vex24 (126288) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232543)

This isn't a dig on Linux, but it would be nice if this worked in Win32 environments as well... as an organization gradually weaning ourselves off of Microsoft products, we could really use a cross-platform mail/calender client to replace Outlook on Windows. Ah well, maybe we'll be able to jump whole hog to Linux fairly soon anyway....

Notes from the bugmaster (5, Informative)

luge (4808) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232546)

Hey! So... I guess I'm going to have a busy day tomorrow :) If you really want to get a good start and be helpful, I'd recommend that you read the Bug Day TODO list [ximian.com] before coming by the bug day. We need lots of help- but we also need people who are going to be willing to get their hands dirty in the bugzilla, not just sit in the channel and ask when their pet bug will be fixed.
So... hope to see you all tomorrow, and hope that you'll be willing to help out in a constructive manner!
Luis Villa
Ximian Bugmaster
P.S. I'll be reading responses, so if you have any questions, please feel free to ask. Thanks!

most bugs reported so far? (1)

nconway (86640) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232550)

I've been testing Evo for a while (with an eye on getting that Palm VII), and I'm wondering where I am WRT to the other bug reporters. I've reported 20 unique bugs -- what have other people got?

Very Cool (3, Interesting)

Uruk (4907) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232553)

Not only do I *not* mind helping a company out when they are contributing free software back to the community, but when they actively solicit help like this and give people rewards, it's only going to help them out. Also, I think having your customers hunt for bugs reinforces the idea that you're not claiming you're perfect (and thus not trying to pull the wool over their eyes about defects in the software) and also as part of the free software community it makes people feel like they have a stake in the software. Which would you rather use - a package where you felt you had some sort of stake, or MegaCorp's package where feature requests are forwarded to /dev/null and the support team consists of an auto-reply email system?

As a side effect, it's probably a smart marketing move since as I'd imagine, the Ximian FTP sites are hopping right now with slashdotters trying to download a copy of Evolution to win something.

So let's review:
- Free (as in beer) stuff (always cool)
- Free (as in speech) software (even cooler)

What a deal!

Too bad it's been broken in apt for ages (2)

miahrogers (34176) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232563)

I realize ximian "doesn't really have time" to guarantee compatability with Debian-unstable, but I know a lot of people who use unstable. If you use unstable, in general you're the kind of person who would report a bug when a program crashes.

For MONTHS there has been a dumb bug with libgnomeprint11 (their version) that makes it never install on any of my machines. Thanks guys, I hope you get those bugs checked soon, but not by me, even though I was willing.

That and they're trying to force everyone to use redcarpet when I really perfer apt, especially since redcarpet is buggy.

This isn't a flame, it's more like me crying because nothing ever makes any sense. I think Miguel & co are great folks, and I hope they do well.

award/reward (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 11 years ago | (#2232567)

In preperation, they are offering awards for finding bugs in Evolution!
That's not an award, it's a frickin' REWARD. Stupid bastard.

What is Ximian (1)

edox. (467593) | more than 11 years ago | (#2232568)

Ximian is the established leader in providing open source desktop technology, applications, support and services for the Linux and UNIX marketplaces. Ximian products, in use by over 800,000 people worldwide, are providing the ease of use, productivity and interoperability needed to propel the adoption of the Linux desktop in corporate computing environments. With Ximian GNOME, which extends the work of the open source GNOME project, Ximian has provided a complete graphical desktop environment and productivity application suite for Linux and UNIX systems. Ximian's Red Carpet [slashdot.org] and Ximian Evolution [slashdot.org] software deliver software and personal information management solutions for both end users and corporate customers.

Comprised of many of the original architects of the GNOME system, Ximian is a founding member of the GNOME Foundation and sits on the advisory board. The company has secured funding from leading venture firms Charles River Ventures [crv.com] and Battery Ventures. [battery.com]

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