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Typo Keyboard For iPhone Faces Sales Ban

samzenpus posted about 7 months ago | from the no-typing-for-you dept.

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time_lords_almanac (3527081) writes "BlackBerry is trying to put the kibosh on the Typo, a physical keyboard attachment for iPhone. And they've won the first round, in the form of a sales ban on the attachment. From the article: '"BlackBerry is pleased that its motion for a preliminary injunction against Typo Products LLC was granted. This ruling will help prevent further injury to BlackBerry from Typo's blatant theft of our patented keyboard technology," a spokeswoman for BlackBerry told the news agency in an email.'"

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patented keyboard technology? (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617195)

Because, you know, physical keyboards are such an advancing field.... I can't imagine how awful keyboards would be with out BlackBerry's patented technology.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (5, Funny)

kelemvor4 (1980226) | about 7 months ago | (#46617377)

Because, you know, physical keyboards are such an advancing field.... I can't imagine how awful keyboards would be with out BlackBerry's patented technology.

Advancing? Hardly, there are patents and so no advancement is possible.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (1)

Kangburra (911213) | about 7 months ago | (#46617439)

Whoosh!

Re:patented keyboard technology? (1)

dreamchaser (49529) | about 7 months ago | (#46617947)

I think you were just whoooshed too.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | about 7 months ago | (#46618139)

Now here's a post that deserves a +5 funny.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617537)

What advancement? The typo keyboard is virtually a 1 for 1 copy of the Q10 keyboard. They didn't even bother changing the colour of the frets.

You guys would be pretty pissed if "6oo6le" copied Google to the point of even using the playskool colour theme on the letters, but it's A-OK to rip off BlackBerry 100% because you don't like them.

Hypocrites.

Re: patented keyboard technology? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46618097)

There's a scammy type car lot here that does just that, down to copying the name font and color scheme to make it seem like its affiliated with Google. There's no way to contact a real person at Google so I just let it go.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (1)

istartedi (132515) | about 7 months ago | (#46617881)

Advancing? Hardly, there are patents and so no advancement is possible.

Is too. The latest version has a sarcasm detector.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617483)

Just look at the Typo. It is blindingly obvious that they ripped off the Blackberry design.

Hey, if Apple can sue over rounded corners and slide to unlock, then this is fair.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (3, Insightful)

TWX (665546) | about 7 months ago | (#46617505)

I hadn't heard of this keyboard until this Slashdot article.

With the angle-topped keys and the particular choice of layout, I think that I actually agree with Blackberry on this one, though I'd think this would fall into trademark territory more than patent technology. Maybe the curved ridges on the keys somehow have a patent I guess...

Re:patented keyboard technology? (2)

whoever57 (658626) | about 7 months ago | (#46617651)

though I'd think this would fall into trademark territory more than patent technology. Maybe the curved ridges on the keys somehow have a patent I guess...

Design patents, like (downmods coming in 3 ..2... 1) rectangles with rounded corners.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (3, Insightful)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 7 months ago | (#46618095)

The shape and feel of the keyboards is basically everything there is to the keyboard, and its all basically a copy. Its not even remotely similar to the apple case.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (3, Interesting)

TheGavster (774657) | about 7 months ago | (#46617921)

BB did have a patent on the angled keys that they sued Palm over back in the late 90's. It actually is a fairly innovative design that optimizes the direction of the bevel on each key based on the kinematics of your thumbs so that the keys act much larger than they are (if they actually cloned it correctly). It has also become sort of a mark of BB (both because of the exclusivity and the general unpopularity of portrait QWERTY layouts), so I guess that might even be grounds after the patent expires (which has to be coming up soon ...).

Re:patented keyboard technology? (1)

fnj (64210) | about 7 months ago | (#46617661)

Just look at the Typo. It is blindingly obvious that they ripped off the Blackberry design.

Hey, if Apple can sue over rounded corners and slide to unlock, then this is fair.

If Apple is a contemptible shit for suing over rounded corners, then so is Blackberry for suing over a tiny modified qwerty keyboard with black keys.

"Mommy, Billy is COPYING me. Make him stop! Wah, wah, wah."

Re:patented keyboard technology? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46618173)

Right, except Ryan Seacrest openly admitted that they stole the design from Blackberry. That's some nerve and Blackberry has every right to sue them.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (1)

mrxak (727974) | about 7 months ago | (#46617835)

I don't know why this myth persists in a world of open court documents. Apple never sued anybody over rounded corners.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (2)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about 7 months ago | (#46617917)

Some people still believe the Earth is 6000 years old in the age of open science. If you don't want to know, then you won't.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617935)

Apple never sued anybody over rounded corners.

They sued on the basis of an overly broad design patent that included rounded corners, and would have essentially prevented anyone else making a phone that looked like LG's Prado.

Commentators simplified the comment to "rounded corners" to emphasize the pettiness of the suit.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (4, Informative)

Baloroth (2370816) | about 7 months ago | (#46617991)

Really? Because I'm pretty fucking sure they did, in fact, do exactly that. Samsung vs Apple [google.com] involved patent USD504899 [google.com] , which claims "the ornamental design for an electronic device, substantially as shown and described", to wit a rectangular cuboid with rounded corners. So, yes, Apple did sue Samsung over rounded corners (although the jury did find Samsung did not infringe, that does not change the fact that Apple did in fact sue Samsung over a thin rectangular design with rounded corners.)

Re:patented keyboard technology? (3, Informative)

Sponge Bath (413667) | about 7 months ago | (#46618025)

Your link is for an Apple suit over a design patent. Rounded corners was only a part of that design patent. Anyone can use rounded corners and not violate the design patent. They can't copy the entirety of the design patent. Hence the conclusion that Apple suing over the stand alone concept of rounded corners is a myth.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (4, Informative)

Sun (104778) | about 7 months ago | (#46618263)

Let me see.....

GP linked to the patent. The patent covers everything shown in the diagram that isn't excluded by means of being drawn in a dotted line. If you check the diagram, the only thing not dotted are the rounded corners and the curve on the back (which just means the "rounded corners" are 3D).

So, no. This design patent is solely about rounded corners.

Shachar

Re:patented keyboard technology? (1)

jellomizer (103300) | about 7 months ago | (#46617693)

Having used a lot of keyboards. There are a lot of subtitle thing with them that makes it a good keyboard vs a bad one.

For example the chicklet keyboard. Apple and Lenovo think pads work. HP doesn't.
If you want it on the cell phone there are more little details. Making a really good one is hard. And costs a fair amount of R&D to make. However after you make it it is too easy to copy. Hence the pattent protection on it.

Re:patented keyboard technology? (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 7 months ago | (#46618093)

A lot of the patents out there are ridiculous, but have you actually seen these keyboards? They are straight up copies down to the beveling. Its not a "whats the corner radius maybe they stole from apple" thing, its a "they very probably sent a photo of a blackberry keyboard over to manufacturing" scenario.

Aside from BES, keyboards definately were (are) the best things about blackberry; Id probably lose my crap too if I were RIM and someone straight up copied it.

Fuck BlackBerry (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617205)

BlackBerry failed to keep up with the rest of the world... I wish they would just die with a little grace and accept that they world will be better off without them bitching and whining as they slowing fade into a painful memory.

Re:Fuck BlackBerry (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617383)

Ya, because Android and iOS is so dominate in the real time OS market (QNX) and MDM space (BES5, BES10 and soon BES12).

I wish iOS would die because their phones are so damned inferior to my Z30. I'm sick of people buying crap because advertisements tell them to.

Re:Fuck BlackBerry (2)

TWX (665546) | about 7 months ago | (#46617519)

Android and iOS give the buying public what they want. Apple is continuing its personal computer paradigm of having an OS that goes with their somewhat more upscale hardware and Android has essentially pulled a Windows and been the "clone" OS to use. Both offer fairly sophisticated suites of interconnected applications that also tie-in well to computers.

I honestly couldn't tell you what Blackberry does. And that's their biggest problem.

Re: Fuck BlackBerry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617597)

Upscale hardware? Oh I forgot they sprinkle fairy dust on the parts foxconn makes for them before they ship them to every other company in the world...

Re: Fuck BlackBerry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617741)

Given that apple is the only phone manufacturer designing their own CPUs, and the result is that their CPUs and GPUs are significantly faster than everyone else's, yes, upscale hardware. Add to that a decent level of design in the case etc, and it's really kinda hard to argue against without looking like you're trolling.

Re: Fuck BlackBerry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617779)

Why does Apple designing their own chip correlate to the result they are faster than anyone else? Intel and AMD design their own chips, are they faster than anyone else?

Re: Fuck BlackBerry (1)

dreamchaser (49529) | about 7 months ago | (#46617953)

The GPU in the Galaxy S4 consistently beats the Ax processors in the graphics department, so no.

Re: Fuck BlackBerry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46618241)

Wrong... Here's some benchmarks:

http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpre... [laptopmag.com]
http://www.phonearena.com/revi... [phonearena.com]

As you can see, the A7 is substantially more powerful, and gets roughly double the FPS of the S4 in most benchmarks.

Re: Fuck BlackBerry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46618023)

Given that apple is the only phone manufacturer designing their own CPUs, and the result is that their CPUs and GPUs are significantly faster than everyone else's

That's factually incorrect. Qualcomm's Snapdragon 615 chip is the fastest mobile CPU/GPU on the market at the moment.

Not that it matters much, mobile hardware designers leapfrog each other every few months.

Re: Fuck BlackBerry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46618283)

1) There aren't actually any benchmarks of the 615, because it's not released yet.
2) The 615 uses so much power that it can't be used in a phone.

So basically, no... The 615 doesn't really compete in any way with the A7.

Re:Fuck BlackBerry (2)

AK Marc (707885) | about 7 months ago | (#46617821)

Blackberry sells the only device "owned" by the corporation. Secure end to end encryption, owned by the owner, not a cloud provider. It's a walled garden where the owner of the device owns the walls and the garden. It's security-focused enterprise/government that keeps it going. If you aren't one of them, there's no reason to consider it. I know a few home users that have them. The last one had to use an android phone for 2 weeks. He never turned his Blackberry on again.

Re:Fuck BlackBerry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617847)

Except when governments demand access to the users data... not so secure then is it...

Re:Fuck BlackBerry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46618275)

Android and iOS give the buying public what they want.

Exactly.

The public wants google & apple to steal all of their info and hand it over to the US government.

That's why no one buys blackberries any more.

Re:Fuck BlackBerry (2)

fahrbot-bot (874524) | about 7 months ago | (#46617407)

I wish they would just die with a little grace and accept that they world will be better off without them

Ya, like SCO did - oh, wait... :-)

Re:Fuck BlackBerry (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617937)

"as they slowing fade into a painful memory."

Not as painful as your twisted prose, one hopes.

Re:Fuck BlackBerry (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 7 months ago | (#46618109)

Its hilarious to hear this in a world where SSL is a beseiged technology, and RIM offered the only solution with per-device keys. Clearly we'll all be better off without the only mass-produced product that is neigh on unhackable.

I have of course moved on to android because RIM hasnt kept up-- but the world would be better off if they had because they had some incredibly good offerings and to this day have the only workable physical keyboard. With as much as I love swiftkey, Im still not convinced it holds a candle to a good Blackberry.

So what's the problem? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617207)

Change the beveled key shape to something not covered under a patent and call it a day.

Re:So what's the problem? (3, Informative)

pollarda (632730) | about 7 months ago | (#46617265)

Beveled Keys have been in use since the HP 35 calculator. The HP35 was HP's very first calculator and the first iterations only had printing on a few of the keys -- the rest of the key designations were printed on the board the keys protruded through. The HP41 (early to mid 1980's) had a full alphabet keyboard as well as punctuation and all the keys were beveled. As I understand the patent, it should be thrown out due to prior art or at least obviousness since all the HP keys were beveled.

Re:So what's the problem? (3, Interesting)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 7 months ago | (#46617281)

"Beveled Keys have been in use since the HP 35 calculator. The HP35 was HP's very first calculator and the first iterations only had printing on a few of the keys -- the rest of the key designations were printed on the board the keys protruded through. The HP41 (early to mid 1980's) had a full alphabet keyboard as well as punctuation and all the keys were beveled. As I understand the patent, it should be thrown out due to prior art or at least obviousness since all the HP keys were beveled."

There exists a thing called a "design patent" which prevents others from copying your style. I could be wrong, but I suspect that is what is at issue here.

Re:So what's the problem? (1)

physicsphairy (720718) | about 7 months ago | (#46617577)

If they were making something that looks like blackberry for the purpose of selling to apple users, I don't think an injunction was necessary.

Re:So what's the problem? (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about 7 months ago | (#46617699)

There exists a thing called a "design patent" which prevents others from copying your style.

Really? In that case, I'm totes gonna sue Li'l Wayne.

Brother's been biting my style for the longest. Even down to my face tattoos and penchant for purple drank.

Re:So what's the problem? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617747)

There exists a thing called a "design patent" which prevents others from copying your style. I could be wrong, but I suspect that is what is at issue here.

Even with a design patent, prior art and widespread use. Means that the judgement will be reversed higher up in the court system...

Re:So what's the problem? (1)

Dcnjoe60 (682885) | about 7 months ago | (#46617365)

Beveled Keys have been in use since the HP 35 calculator. The HP35 was HP's very first calculator and the first iterations only had printing on a few of the keys -- the rest of the key designations were printed on the board the keys protruded through. The HP41 (early to mid 1980's) had a full alphabet keyboard as well as punctuation and all the keys were beveled. As I understand the patent, it should be thrown out due to prior art or at least obviousness since all the HP keys were beveled.

The desktop HP 9100 was HP's first calculator. The HP35 was their first portable calculator (basically the 9100 that fit in a shirt pocket), but otherwise, what you say about HP is correct. As for your conclusion on the patent, I will defer to others.

Re:So what's the problem? (1)

pollarda (632730) | about 7 months ago | (#46617469)

Yes, if you want to call the 9100 a calculator. ;-) Actually, I have one. It was really cool and had ferrid core memory and gold plated PC board. I've also got a few HP35s floating about both with and without the printed keys. Ah, the wonders of growing up in Los Alamos and what was once known as Zia Salvage. (They even had a nuclear rocket engine at one point -- though probably without the core.)

Re:So what's the problem? (2)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | about 7 months ago | (#46617861)

The HP35 was HP's very first calculator

Wrong. There were HP calculators before the HP35. HP made desktop calculators that sported a small CRT display. I used to have one. It had core memory in it. It had no ICs at all. Hundreds and hundreds of diodes.

Re:So what's the problem? (4, Informative)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 7 months ago | (#46618123)

HP35 keyboard [vintagecalculators.com]
Side-by-side Typo vs Blackberry keyboard [powerpage.org]

The HP35 isnt even close, and the Typo is a blatant ripoff. I hate patent trolls as much as the next guy, but come on, theres not even room for debate here. Theyre EXACTLY the same. Even ALT and Shift are in the same spots, and the numbers-- which have generally gone across the top on other phones-- are laid out the same way.

Re:So what's the problem? (1)

unrtst (777550) | about 7 months ago | (#46617311)

While there at it, can they make some that slip over popular andriod phones? By the look of the design, it seems like it'd be pretty easy to make versions that fit other popular phones, and keep using the same bluetooth keyboard (fyi, it extends the length of the phone a bit, so this isn't a question of how much non-screen real estate exists at the bottom of the phone).

Slightly off topic... anyone know of a good keyboard case for a galaxy S4? The only one's I've found add incredible bulk, have poor reviews, make camera use very awkward, and just don't seem usable. I miss my evo shift keyboard, and G1 before that :-(

Sick of patents (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617213)

They're over-valued and create significant litigation. The only people who benefit are the lawyers.

jew lawyers strike again (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617221)

always trying to shakedown the creative people who power our nations economy, how can we solve this jewish problem?

How dare they make the user experience better (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617223)

Further proof that patents harm customers far more than they promote innovation.

Re:How dare they make the user experience better (4, Informative)

danomac (1032160) | about 7 months ago | (#46617263)

Did you even look at the article? That keyboard looks like a blackberry keyboard to me. It's a blatant ripoff of the design. While I think software patents are absurd, this is a copy of a physical device.

Re:How dare they make the user experience better (0)

fnj (64210) | about 7 months ago | (#46617697)

You say that like it's an obviously bad thing.

So fucking what? Yes, I said it. So what if Company B makes something that has a look and feel like Company A's something? Why should any benighted festering authoritarian hellhole stick its nose in and hinder competition and betterment?

Re:How dare they make the user experience better (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617763)

Because it costs a significant amount of money to come up with these things in the first place. It does not cost a significant amount of money to copy them though. The result is that by elimination of dominated strategies, the best strategy in a world without patents is to not actually come up with anything new, but instead to just copy what everyone else is doing, as it gets you the same result with much lower cost.

That's not something the government wants to promote, for obvious reasons.

Re:How dare they make the user experience better (1, Interesting)

fnj (64210) | about 7 months ago | (#46617813)

Because it costs a significant amount of money to come up with these things in the first place. It does not cost a significant amount of money to copy them though. The result is that by elimination of dominated strategies, the best strategy in a world without patents is to not actually come up with anything new, but instead to just copy what everyone else is doing, as it gets you the same result with much lower cost.

That's not something the government wants to promote, for obvious reasons.

A spectacular example of backward thinking. If the government took its grimy hands off, it wouldn't be PROMOTING anything; it would remove an artificial suppression of free trade.

Re:How dare they make the user experience better (1, Interesting)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about 7 months ago | (#46618067)

The result is that by elimination of dominated strategies, the best strategy in a world without patents is to not actually come up with anything new, but instead to just copy what everyone else is doing, as it gets you the same result with much lower cost.

It's not an unreasonable first guess, but that turns out to actually not be how people behave [ted.com] when the constraints are lifted.

Re:How dare they make the user experience better (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46618255)

Huh? This very article in fact backs this up. In the event of the ability of everyone to copy, all innovation stopped. Instead, the fashion houses went immediately to slapping their logo all over everything –why? Because that was actually protected and couldn't be copied.

Re:How dare they make the user experience better (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46618121)

My logitech keyboard looks just like the mitsumi keyboard i had before it. All the keys are in the same places, the layout is exactly the same... hell its even the same color!

Logitech STOLE from mitsumi!!!!!eleventy

Re:How dare they make the user experience better (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about 7 months ago | (#46618091)

That keyboard looks like a blackberry keyboard to me. It's a blatant ripoff of the design.

That seems stupid - they should have ripped off the Treo design - straight rows of keys don't make sense for actual human thumbs.

Re:How dare they make the user experience better (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | about 7 months ago | (#46618155)

I'm interested to know how many ways you could possibly think of cramming a keyboard into a 2" x 1" space.

Regardless of how it looks, do you really think that putting a set of standard keys in a small space is somehow deserving of a patent? Or OMG my dell keyboard has a Fn key that lets the F1 key share with the sleep function, should that be patented too? Maybe IBM should patent the fact they removed the SysRq button from their keyboard while they are at it.

If anything Blackberry was shamelessly ripping off the QWERTY layout. Man if Christopher Latham Sholes was still alive I'm sure he'd sue the bastards into Bankrupsy. Mind you that seems to be Blackberry's business strategy right now anyway.

Re: How dare they make the user experience better (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617613)

But it's an APPLE product. You CAN'T make the experience better! Marketing and fanboys told me so...

http://slashdot.org/?source=autorefresh (0, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617257)

Fuck autorefresh!!

Re:http://slashdot.org/?source=autorefresh (1)

issicus (2031176) | about 7 months ago | (#46617441)

I understand why they have it, but it annoys me also.. reloading while I'm reading an article isn't helpful.

Gentlemen, to your 3D printers! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617273)

I fully expect a 3D printed keyboard fully open sourced by tomorrow afternoon at the latest!

End times (3, Insightful)

nbohr1more (2039034) | about 7 months ago | (#46617279)

At the twilight of our civilization, endless patent and copyright fights over obvious things. A keyboard at the bottom rather than the side of a phone? Obviously this is a precious work of genius that must be protected at all costs. Soon someone will make a new generation of 8K HDTV's and they will patent "the use of a remote control with 8K HDTV's" When will someone see through this horseshit and revoke these stupid patents.

Re:End times (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617299)

What's stopping you from going to law school or becoming a politician?

Re:End times (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617389)

Presumably the fact that he wasn't born rich.

Re:End times (1)

hax4bux (209237) | about 7 months ago | (#46617421)

Self respect. How about you?

Re:End times (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617451)

His interests.

The fact he's posted this is a political statement in itself. That's all that's needed.

Re:End times (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 7 months ago | (#46618297)

Twilight of civilization? This is about a near magical device that we've made with science which can give you any answer you can think of, communicate with people on the other side of the world, and see pictures of people having sex. What about this gives you such cynicism? Yes, these are idiotic arguments, but think about the idiotic disagreements that lead to real wars in the past. Civilization sure doesn't seem to be on the downward slide.

Further injury to Blackberry? (5, Funny)

JoeyRox (2711699) | about 7 months ago | (#46617301)

You mean it's possible for someone to destroy Blackberry faster than Blackberry has done itself?

Re:Further injury to Blackberry? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617605)

I know it's hard to believe but there is such a person. Maybe If they have a problem, if no one else can help... and if they can find him, maybe they can hire the man [wikipedia.org] .

Quick, Slashdotters! (0)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about 7 months ago | (#46617309)

Figure out a way to turn this into an anti-Apple rant, pronto!

Re:Quick, Slashdotters! (3, Interesting)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 7 months ago | (#46617733)

Challenge accepted.

After playing the role of plaintiff in multiple patent lawsuits concerning relatively miniscule design innovations, the double-edged sword that is the US patent system is now seemingly also willing to slice the apple.

Perhaps the only hope for reform of the patent system relies on it becoming inconvenient even for it's former proponents?

Re:Quick, Slashdotters! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617825)

it's former proponents?

If you don't want to appear to be an idiot as you NOW DO, you need
to learn how to use an apostrophe correctly.

It's = IT IS. This is not the possessive form.

Its = possessive. This is the form you should have used.

Re:Quick, Slashdotters! (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 7 months ago | (#46617981)

Well you have me there.

See, every now and then it does pay to get out of bed in the morning!

Blackberry will be gone soon... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617341)

So I guess who ever buys the patents from them will continue the lawsuits?

Dear Blackberry (2)

hax4bux (209237) | about 7 months ago | (#46617415)

Nobody decides to buy a BB solely based upon a hardware keyboard.

Probably could have stopped w/"nobody decides to buy a BB"

Not taking sides. (4, Informative)

MrL0G1C (867445) | about 7 months ago | (#46617453)

They have gone further than just putting a keyboard on the iphone, see pic:

http://www.macrumors.com/2014/... [macrumors.com]

They've copied the shape of the keys, the horizontal bars between the keys etc.

Re:Not taking sides. (1)

thegarbz (1787294) | about 7 months ago | (#46618159)

Just wait till Apple realises that the edges are also curved.

Can't get past the name (5, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617481)

Why would they name a keyboard "typo"? Even as an amusing meta-reference, it falls flat.

It's like trying to sell a toilet paper named "Anal Scraper".

This is how it ends? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617489)

This is how it ends for Blackberry? They have to fall back to patent abuse for funding? How sad.

A fucking BEVEL? Seriously?
Iconic design? Hardly. Oh, well done, you put a little curve in a button, you genius you! Who'da thought of that one? EVERYONE? Oh yeah.
There are good patents, bad patents, and downright abusive patents, this falls in to the latter.
Honestly, I think I'd actually gladly accept 0.5% of taxes going towards paying a group of people to go through every single patent and reject blatant abuse like this.
It stinks of Apples crap when they sued Samsung over using AN ACTUAL SHAPE for a phone. Then they later tried to place it all on the buttons position and so much bullshit spawned from there.

Die Blackberry (the) (1)

symbolset (646467) | about 7 months ago | (#46617513)

It is stunts like this that ensure when Blackberry finally must close their doors, few will weep. Roughly one year remains.

Re:Die Blackberry (the) (1)

narcc (412956) | about 7 months ago | (#46617807)

Yeah, we've been hearing that for years now. Still hasn't happened.

Just keep making predictions until you get a hit, Silvia Brown. I'm sure we'll all be impressed with your intellectual prowess then.

Blackberry won... (1)

CTU (1844100) | about 7 months ago | (#46617543)

...but we all lose. These bans do not in any way help consumers and should be laughed out of court. One thing to not steal tech from the people who invent it, but this is about ideas. Like banning people from making wheels because some comp owns the round shape patent

Re:Blackberry won... (1)

fnj (64210) | about 7 months ago | (#46617771)

Look up "design patents". They are completely different animals from "utility patents". There are also abortions called "plant patents" (yeah, plant as in green growing thing), and "defensive publications", the latter now superseded by "statutory invention registrations". See this [uspto.gov] .

The court is doing its job. If a design patent is infringed, what else can the court do? The contemptible lunacy of design patents is on the heads of the legislature.

Funny (1)

wiredlogic (135348) | about 7 months ago | (#46617649)

Funny. There's a shit-ton of Chinese messaging phones [google.com] using Blackberry style keyboards with shaped keys (oooh so innovative). I doubt they're licensing the patent given the low price point these sell at in emerging markets.

Re:Funny (2)

narcc (412956) | about 7 months ago | (#46617823)

Yeah, it is "oooh so innovative". There's a reason why everyone raved about the quality of their keyboards, you know.

Ever try to type, well, anything on a Motorola Droid Pro or Palm Pre? There's obviously a lot more here than just "shaped keys".

We need reform (1)

Sean (422) | about 7 months ago | (#46617725)

Asserting a patent that turns out to be invalid or not applicable should cost the accuser big time. All of the defendants legal costs plus 5% of annual worldwide gross revenue would be a good start.

One small victory in the war on Ryan Seacrest (2)

idioto (259918) | about 7 months ago | (#46617787)

this isn't about patents or saving blackberry, it's about stopping ryan seacrest. he's the one behind the kardasshians for heaven's sake. set aside your petty libertarian and socialist differences and unite against tyranny of another more diabolical sort!

What is that sound? Gasp, gasp, gasp (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46617859)

Oh, it's Blackberry going down the vortex and attempting to suck anything else they can with it... Bye, bye lazy idiots

Gotta side with Blackberry (2)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | about 7 months ago | (#46617957)

Gotta side with BlackBerry on this one.

Keyboards like this one...

http://0.tqn.com/d/ipod/1/0/w/... [tqn.com]

...have been around for years.

However, one look at the "Typo" tells you that it's a blatant BB ripoff. If you want / need a keyboard like that, buy a 'Berry.

Lets Make a Deal (2)

CodeBuster (516420) | about 7 months ago | (#46617965)

This is being blown way out of proportion here. Filing the infringement lawsuit and winning the injunction was the first step towards making a deal. With the injunction in hand Blackberry has demonstrated to Seacrest and his investors that this is serious, but they've also left open the way to a deal. This would probably take the form of royalty payments from Typo to Blackberry for each case sold, the amount to be negotiated after agreement in principle to pay royalties. The remaining Blackberry shareholders are hard core professional investors and financial types now, not technologists, so they will be eager to squeeze any money they can out of the patent portfolio even if that cannibalizes a few Blackberry sales down the road.

Get out you homeless niggers (0)

Msdose (867833) | about 7 months ago | (#46618047)

He's the screaming lord haha of hate crime music blasted into tim hortons and mcdonalds to run off the homeless people trying to get some rest. The restaurants commission this nazi music to be blasted into the ears of their patrons to get rid of the homeless undesirables.

people were buying a keyboard called TYPO? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46618061)

...fantastic. Can't wait to start my own ICan'tBelieveIt'sNotTexturedVegetableProtein franchise, featuring the SoyBurglar and Donald McTrump.

My G1 keyboard was fantastic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46618069)

Better than anything BlackBerry ever produced. I miss having a proper five-row hardware keyboard on my phone.

Amnesia? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46618281)

Have you somehow forgotten the lawsuits Apple has filed over patents? You know, that have been in the news for the past half decade it seems? Good on Blackberry to play the game then. Patents are after all just tools used to sue infringers.

Re:Amnesia? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46618299)

As an aside - the Blackberry Curve 9320 is still the best phone I've ever used. The company suffers for the same reason desktop/laptop manufacturers have been in a slump - the product is already "good enough" for intended tasks well beyond date of purchase, and the only strong incentive to purchase a new piece of technology would be a new gimmick. In the case of phones, the new gimmick is touch screens and app shenanigans - needless noise. That said, BB could have done better to anticipate and adapt to this shift in spending habits.

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