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US Takes Out Gang That Used Zeus Malware To Steal Millions

samzenpus posted about 7 months ago | from the book-em-danno! dept.

Crime 38

coondoggie (973519) writes "The US Department of Justice charged nine members of a group that used Zeus malware to infect thousands of business computers and illegally siphon-off millions of dollars into over-seas bank accounts. The DoJ said an indictment was unsealed in connection with the arraignment this week at the federal courthouse in Lincoln, Neb., of two Ukrainian nationals, Yuriy Konovalenko, 31, and Yevhen Kulibaba, 36. Konovalenko and Kulibaba were recently extradited from the United Kingdom."

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last post! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739473)

last post!

Re:last post! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739533)

Want a cookie?

Scrabble points (0)

Skiron (735617) | about 7 months ago | (#46739555)

Great words to use

Re:Scrabble points (2)

kruach aum (1934852) | about 7 months ago | (#46739657)

Are you some kind of moral degenerate that allows proper nouns in Scrabble or just a racist.

Re:Scrabble points (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46752103)

Are you some kind of moral degenerate that allows proper nouns in Scrabble or just a racist.

Are you a piece of shit who makes useless remarks or just a turd with Tourette's ?

Extradite or we will kidnap or send you drone (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739575)

So typical behaviour of US regime. They are all know around to world to kidnap citizens of other countries or extradite is country happens to be a "puppy state"
Otherwise US regime sends drone killing woman and children in the process but it doesn't matter US version of revenge is served.

Re:Extradite or we will kidnap or send you drone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739637)

So, you know better than to fuck with us, RIGHT?!?

Re:Extradite or we will kidnap or send you drone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739747)

> So, you know better than to fuck with us, RIGHT?!?

I don't even want to get close to you. Did you want to sell anything to me? I'm interested in a language course... English is so passe'...

Re:Extradite or we will kidnap or send you drone (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739735)

This is exactly why I am proud to be an American.
I feel proud that my government is capable and willing to do whatever it takes to bring these evildoers to justice.
We are the mightiest, richest, most powerful nation on Earth, and I don't care if some little shithole country has a problem with us using our might.

God Bless America.

Re:Extradite or we will kidnap or send you drone (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739815)

God Bless America for stealing, kidnapping and riding on the backs of rest of the world.
We are the richest because we take other nations natural resources.
We are the most powerful nation on Earth and if other nations protest when steal from them, we will bring them "American Justice"

God Bless America.

Re:Extradite or we will kidnap or send you drone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739975)

That's absolutely true. The only reason the savages of Europe and Japan are at peace, and Russia and China are contained is because of the great might of the USA. More needs to be applied, they have been getting uppity lately, with their little secessionist "movements" and what not. It's time to put the beggars, drug addicts, and prostitutes into work camps. It's time to shed the facade of "republic" and stand tall as the greatest empire the world will ever know. It's time to take off the mask and velvet glove and show the world who's boss, and will be forever! Accept your place as conquered people. Only then will you have a safe and secure society, with all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused.

Difference in meaning. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46743697)

> We are the mightiest, richest, most powerful nation on Earth, and I don't care if some little shithole country has a problem with us using our might.

In English, cowardice is simply lack of courage (I just checked some dictionaries). Someone too violent can be called ruthless, but that's it.

In my language, someone too mighty who beats a feeble one is a coward, too. Thus, bullies are act cowardly in my language.

You may want to have that in mind next time you feel proud again.

PS: And don't start me on the "it's only for evildoers routine". You know it's not. Also, I am for catching criminals, too -- thieves must be captured, of course. The problem I have is that "let God sort them out" part.

Re:Extradite or we will kidnap or send you drone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739829)

Bro, these Ukranians were probably being protected by the CIA to fund the Ukrainian opposition but when Russia came in and took over they got thrown under the bus. It's almost obvious.

Re:Extradite or we will kidnap or send you drone (2)

Applehu Akbar (2968043) | about 7 months ago | (#46739955)

There have been some fishy extraditions over the years, but the world is better off with these guys out of circulation.

Now we need to find the CrypoLocker perpetrators, and "render" them to a Brazilian favela.

Re:Extradite or we will kidnap or send you drone (1)

flyneye (84093) | about 7 months ago | (#46743785)

Yeah, and when they get here, get tried and sentenced in Nebraska, they will end up in a Kansas or Missouri prison where a fellow prisoner from Arkansas will be heard to say, Boy, Yuriy, you sure do got a purdy mouth on you, I bet you can squeal like a fat ol piggy.

Re:Extradite or we will kidnap or send you drone (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46752119)

Yeah, and when they get here, get tried and sentenced in Nebraska, they will end up in a Kansas or Missouri prison where a fellow prisoner from Arkansas will be heard to say, Boy, Yuriy, you sure do got a purdy mouth on you, I bet you can squeal like a fat ol piggy.

Hey faggot :

Post your real name and address so I can drop by and explain to you
how unfunny your prison rape joke is.

Re:Extradite or we will kidnap or send you drone (1)

flyneye (84093) | about 6 months ago | (#46755001)

smatter? Was you the punk in the bunk? Your daddy got you wearin a diaper? Couldnt get in to punk city?
Im here to tell you how fucking funny it really IS! Sometimes, justice is just a pain in the ass and I bet you got a story of romance and intrigue.

So... (0)

theM_xl (760570) | about 7 months ago | (#46739607)

Looking at the story on Obama about the 'next Hearthbleed', this is where we can only conclude that the US government is taking out the competition...

Re:So... (2)

rmdingler (1955220) | about 7 months ago | (#46739647)

These guys seem to be plain old crooks, not masters of espionage, although there is some overlap in the skillset.

This is what the US government should be doing: protecting US banking interests and keeping depositors safe from malware.

The thing about leaving Heartbleed viable as a backdoor for national security exploits is that it exposes one's own citizens to attacks such as this.

Attcking bank interests (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739781)

As we have seen in 2008, disrupting the US banking system really wreaks havoc on out economy - and that was done by legal entities.

Now, if some foreign crooks or whatever causes us to lose trust in our banking system further, I can only guess what the long term consequences will be.

Never the less, until the our banking system gets its act together and takes security seriously instead of counting Washington (their Congressman bitches) to clean up their messes, we can expect more of this in the future.

Re:So... (1)

wbr1 (2538558) | about 7 months ago | (#46740461)

This is what the US government should be doing: protecting US banking interests and keeping depositors safe from malware.

Thu US governments idea of protecting banking interests is trillion dollar bailout for crooks that knowingly defraud and launder.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E... [wikipedia.org]

Re:So... I didn't know heartbleed exploit existed. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739677)

Neither did you. But i haven't updated my systems since the patriot act.
Because i'm smarter than the average guy.

Fuck These Foreigners (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739707)

I hope they are ready for some good old American Justice, PMITA prison style. I am sick of tired of real Americans getting ripped off by these dirty, stinking foreigners. Its time for vengeance.

Re:Fuck These Foreigners (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739849)

but, but...Israel is our ally! We have to accept getting ripped off by a global cartel of criminal kikes.

students of aj cohen boneus round (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739723)

if it's (never ending holycost) all in the delivery why are they jumping out of windows? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ED1ZIbbxPOc band of 85 WMD on credit cabalists still at large

US Communist Regime at work (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739757)

As expected US commies thinking at work "we can steal or kill" but if others do it they will be extradited.
This US commie state is disgusting.

Re:US Communist Regime at work (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46739839)

We can do it because nobody else can stop us. The world bends over for us and we fuck you whenever we feel like.
Be as disgusted as you like, but it won't change.

Re:US Communist Regime at work (1)

PhilHibbs (4537) | about 7 months ago | (#46745183)

Be as disgusted as you like, but it won't change.

That's what the Romans believed.

Can they pay back the $$ they stole? (1)

argStyopa (232550) | about 7 months ago | (#46740043)

If not, throw them into a wood chipper.

Seriously, if the potential reward for crime is in the $million$, the odds of getting caught are probably low, and the punishment is a handful of years in prison - why would anyone NOT commit such a crime?

Most of the people I know work their lives as wage-slaves for 8+ hours a day, for decades, for a fraction of that (and what they get, a giant chunk goes to taxes).

Re:Can they pay back the $$ they stole? (1)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | about 7 months ago | (#46740543)

Because prison sucks and they'll usually seize any assets that they can prove were from the crime. So that's a pretty good reason not to do it.

Oh, and there's the whole "being a moral person" thing. Some people care about that too.

Re:Can they pay back the $$ they stole? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46742907)

It worked for HSBC - laundered almost a billion dollars for narco-terrorists. No jail time, no consequences that matter.
It worked for JPMorgan/Chase - illegal trade with Iran and Syria, bribery scandals, investor fraud, investor fraud, consumer fraud, perjury and more on the order of billions of dollars in trade/fraud not to mention its hand in the global meltdown costing trillions of dollars. No jail time, no consequences that matter.

Until the big banksters like Jamie Dimon get their necks stretched (following a fair trial in court), nothing is going to deter these corporations from continuing to defraud the world. "Being a moral person" is laughable in the face of how much damage these creatures have done, how little is done to curtail it, and how every judgment reinforces that big crimes continue to pay the best dividends.

Re:Can they pay back the $$ they stole? (1)

argStyopa (232550) | about 7 months ago | (#46743857)

Seriously, your answer to crime is "people should be moral people"?

Wow, no wonder it's working so well.

Re:Can they pay back the $$ they stole? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46748441)

Seriously, your answer to crime is "people should be moral people"?

Wow, no wonder it's working so well.

It's the intellectual equivalent of abstinence-only sex education -- we have nothing of value to contribute to the discussion, but we'll just sit here on our moral high horse and act like we have a solution.

It completely ignores the reasons and motivations behind crime, it just says "stealing bad, mmmkay?"

Re:Can they pay back the $$ they stole? (1)

spectrumlogic (2497494) | about 7 months ago | (#46749715)

Seriously...are you saying this isn't a fundamental question? Wow, No wonder it isn't working so well

Re:Can they pay back the $$ they stole? (1)

Agripa (139780) | about 6 months ago | (#46751857)

. . . and they'll usually seize any assets that they can prove were from the crime.

That happens whether the person is charged with a crime or not and the burden of proof is on the person to prove that the seized assets were *not* involved in a crime.

How did they take them out? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46740183)

Drone strike?

We need coding standards & code reviews (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46743483)

We have this idea that technology should progress fast and endlessly without consideration for security, privacy, etc. The lack of concern for coding standards and code review is whats gotten us into this mess. Heartbleed shouldn't have happened and neither should most bugs. Sadly nobody wants to contribute financially or otherwise to such mundane tasks. Unfortunately the US government's been co-opted by people who don't have our best interest at stake. They've convinced us to fund organizations that do exactly the opposite of whats in the peoples interests. What we need to do is start funding projects. And it's not Ubuntu, Linux Mint, or your favourite distribution that needs funding. It's those developing both core components and things running on top (like GNOME, KDE, XFCE, etc). However, as other recent Slashdot posters have made apparent. People are ass holes. They're cheap. They feel entitled to try stuff out and NOT contribute. After a project is largely finished with a design and implementation is not the time to complain. If you didn't like the design you should have said something earlier. It's your own fault for not contributing earlier.

Why Did This Take So Long? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46745999)

If there is one thing that we have learned recently, (a sincere thank-you to Edward Snowden) it is that the degree of monitoring of internet activity available to the "5 Eyes" nations is unprecedented. It is inconceivable that they could not have tracked all Zeus activity to their command-and-control servers, and from there to the operators, in the matter of a few days, or perhaps even hours.

Given their ability to monitor all internet traffic, it follows that they also have the ability to monitor machines as they become infected and "phone home" to the addresses of those C&C machines.

Yet the simple fact is that Zeus has been around for an eternity in "Internet Time". So: why did this take so long?

I get the impression that the Intelligence Community have refrained from helping "general Law Enforcement" catch the perpetrators of Zeus, CryptoLocker and other malware purely because to do so, "would have tipped their hand" and revealed to an intelligent public precsiely what capabilities these agencies possessed. But: guess what? We know.

So if the NSA and GCHQ and all the other secret government departments with their multi-billion funding programs want to ease public suspicion of their activities, maybe one thing they could do would be to go after international organised crime in a *BIG* way. If we get to the point where the potential would-be criminals realise that if they so much as log in to an underground bulletin board, if they so much as connect a C&C server to the web, anywhere, there will be a helicopter strike team arresting their asses, maybe the criminals will stop. Maybe the web will become a little bit of a safer place.

Back during the Second World War, the British cracked the encryption system of Enigma, the Nazi cryptogrpahy device used to send orders. They read a cable that told them that the city of Coventry would be bombed flat. The British government knew that if they evacuated the city they would tip off the Nazis that they had cracked Enigma. So they let the city be destroyed, with all the tragic loss of life that ensued. The thing is, the cybercriminals now know that the western powers have all the intelligence they need to track and trace them, yet we continue to see fresh threats every day. Why is this?

Answer: because the criminals believe that they can act with impunity.

So precisely what value do we get out of the billions being spent on this.

I absolutely applaud the US Teams and authorities for bringing down the masterminds behind Zeus. But, what about all the others? We know you have the means to do it. The fact that you don't is a bit like sending the entire Western World to Coventry, and we don't like the idea of being left hanging when you have the means to stop it.

So rehabilitate your image and declare war on organised crime. Or we'll continue to think that you're just a complete waste of billions in taxes...

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