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Star Trek Enterprise Tidbits

CmdrTaco posted more than 12 years ago | from the only-a-few-weeks-away dept.

Television 399

Carlo di Bonk writes: "I found a good article about the new Star Trek Enterprise television evil forces. These evil villains are from the future and the mirror universe. It seems to be an interesting chance that it is a different mirror universe though, to one seen in Star Trek The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and other Star Trek television." Lots of little plot bits too, like the fact that they will have transporters, but they won't be trusted because they randomly kill people (like the first movie!) With Farscape running start to finish, my copy of Lexx Season 1 on DVD en route, and the new Star Trek a few weeks away, I think I need to take a week off ... a scifi sabbatical ;)

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French Toast! (-1, Flamebait)

Juan Epstein (238683) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256254)

Star Trek Sucks. Stupid geeks.

Re:French Toast! (-1)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256265)

Juan baby! How do the silk panties I sent you fit?

Re:French Toast! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256280)

Juan's not here. He's in the basement, hiding his dick between his legs and trying to look like a woman.

Re:French Toast! (-1)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256283)

it rubs the lotion on the skin!!!

Re:French Toast! (0)

Juan Epstein (238683) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256308)

A/S/L?

Re:French Toast! (-1)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256348)

No, none that I am aware of.

(I am assuming that asl stands for anal sex lesions).

Re:French Toast! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256483)

That's whyfor "it rubs the lotion on the skin" -- gets rid of those annoying anal sex lesions (better known to geeks as "Beowulf clusters").

Re:French Toast! (-1)

motherfuckin_spork (446610) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256329)

not only does is suck, but what it sucks is what should scare us all.

damn bone smokers.

One word: (-1)

ubertroll (153053) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256331)

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Re:One word: (-1)

motherfuckin_spork (446610) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256369)

d00d, I'm not sure how to tell you this, but that was 2 words.

kindergarten, buddy, kindergarten.

Re:One word: (-1)

ubertroll (153053) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256385)

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Re:One word: (-1)

motherfuckin_spork (446610) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256415)

kiss your ass? no thanks, you're not my type.

Re:One word: (-1)

ubertroll (153053) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256425)

So whose ass do you prefer to kiss?

Here's an interesting tidbit... (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256255)

I don't have the first post!

Damnit (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256261)

Taco shut the fuck up and remove the bugzilla link already.

Re:Damnit (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256312)

taco rubs the lotion on the skin!!!

Re:Damnit (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256375)

taco puts the lotion in the basket

Did I miss an episode of TNG? (2)

bero-rh (98815) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256270)

a different mirror universe though, to one seen in Star Trek The Next Generation, Deep Space Nine and other Star Trek television

When was the TOS/DS9 mirror universe shown on ST:TNG?

Re:Did I miss an episode of TNG? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256281)

In the episode where they enter uranus.

Re:Did I miss an episode of TNG? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256358)

They don't actually ENTER Uranus, they send a probe!

Re:Did I miss an episode of TNG? (2)

Midnight Ryder (116189) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256292)

It wasn't. But it was covered in a damned good book - Dark Mirror. So, yeah, the statement made above was somewhat incorrect.


If you haven't read Dark Mirror, or don't read most Star Trek books in general - go ahead and read it. It's a very good story that I would have loved to have seen done in the series, or better yet, as a movie!


Re:Did I miss an episode of TNG? (2, Funny)

artemis67 (93453) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256306)

When was the TOS/DS9 mirror universe shown on ST:TNG?

uuuhhh...I thought ST:TNG WAS the evil mirror universe...

Re:Did I miss an episode of TNG? (3, Funny)

tb3 (313150) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256378)

The article refers to it as a a side-line mirror universe


Is that like a vanity-mirror universe?

Re:Did I miss an episode of TNG? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256428)

Remember the alternate Riker?

This is the entry to the mirror universe (-1, Offtopic)

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Zzzzz (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256279)

Go fuck a dildo, you retarded geeks. I mean, really, who the fuck cares? Stupid homorapers.

Keep on buying those DVDs, Taco. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256286)

You're funding the bad guys, you know...

WARNING: SPOILERS AHEAD (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256287)

Is what /. would have said if they had any inkling of a conscience.

Set phasers on Slashdot Effect (-1, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256296)

Have you been busting a gut to know what the pilot for the new Trek series, Enterprise is going to be about?

Well, the lucky denizens of the US of A will find out on September 26th, when the first episode - Broken Bow - is due to hit the Box. As for the UK and the rest of the civilized world? Who blooming knows? (Sky One have picked up the series, though).

As we leaked many issues ago, this Trek is being set in the pre-Federation days, about 90 years after the events shown in the 'First Contact' Trek movie. Star Fleet exists, but only as an Earth Government controlled force.

Apparently the Broken Bow of the pilot title is a region in Oklahoma, USA, where, we kid you not, humanity gets to meet its first Klingon. Said knobbly faced warrior is on the run from a race called the Suliban, who are being controlled by an evil force from the future (does anybody smell universe crossover potential here?).

The Sulibans are 'shapeshifters' - but not in the Odo camp, apparently. Of course, all 'shapeshifters' are instantly tagged as bad guys ... ever since the 1950s and those movies with pods, and thus it is in Enterprise.

Our source in Paramount told us that the time traveling baddies backing the Sulibans are fascist Terrans from the alternative mirror universe, trying to alter history so that the Earth follows a more aggressive path which will leave it in control of the galaxy in the mirror universe, rather than at the mercy of The Dominion, Cardassians, Borg, Klingons, Romulans etc.

These human supremacists don't want the soft liberal peace and love Federation of Kirk and the Next Generation's universe coming into fruition, and are planning to push it down a route which will leave the Earth absolute master of a million worlds.

It's not clear if this bunch are from the main mirror universe or a side-line mirror universe, as some of the suggestions from our man at Paramount seem to be that the time travellers are descendants of Khan-like warlords ... heavily enhanced by genetic engineering. This is the future they want for humanity ... turning everyone into Bashir-like geniuses (even if the poor old normals don't want super-powers).

The hero of the new series, Captain Jonathan Archer, is given the job of transporting the Klingon home - but the Enterprise gets tricked by the shapeshifters en route, and they abduct the wounded Klingon agent from the ship.

While tracking the kidnapped Klingon down, the Enterprise and its crew get embroiled in the time traveller/Suliban's plot to weaken the Klingon Empire by causing a civil war.

The general ambiance of the pilot seems to have been done very well. They have gone for a more primitive feel ... kind of NASA meets Trek.

As the production designer Zimmerman recently told TV Guide, "Along with all the metal, you'll find a lot of leather and plastic, just enough touches to relieve it from being sterile. There's also color in the graphics on the screens, so it's never going to be a dull picture."

For instance, they have transporters, but nobody trusts them because they keep on killing people every now and then. No Universal Translators either ... so they have to carry crew linguists on the ship.

There's a nice range of aliens on the ship, including T'Pol, the Vulcan science officer, and Phlox, an alien doctor. This is pre-Federation of course, so most of them are there as attached officers from friendly powers, or hired mission specialists.

Well, only a few more weeks to go for the hordes of the Trekless fans out there. Personally speaking, we can't wait.

For a new QuickTime Movie clip of the Enterprise series, click here.

Re:Set phasers on Slashdot Effect SPOILER WARNING. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256362)

SPOILER WARNING.

Thanks for the warning, dick!

Ummm... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256298)

> With Farscape running start to finish, my copy
> of Lexx Season 1 on DVD en route, and the new
> Star Trek a few weeks away, I think I need to
> take a week off ...

And what exactly is it that you do???

Re:Ummm... (1)

artemis67 (93453) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256328)

> With Farscape running start to finish, my copy
> of Lexx Season 1 on DVD en route, and the new
> Star Trek a few weeks away, I think I need to
> take a week off ...

And what exactly is it that you do???


He's Vice-President of New Technologies. It's important that he keep up with tomorrow's tech headlines.

still nothing as good as .... (1)

ReidMaynard (161608) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256304)

the original ST series .... all the chicks in those mini-dresses, yowzaa!

Re:still nothing as good as .... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256380)

damn raciscist!
Green chix r0x0r!

Re:still nothing as good as .... (5, Funny)

Mike Buddha (10734) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256397)

the original ST series .... all the chicks in those mini-dresses, yowzaa!

I like the alternate universe from Deep Space 9 where ALL the hot chicks are lesbians! Woot! Set phasers for XXX Action!

Re:still nothing as good as .... (1)

Scutter (18425) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256453)

The problem with your basic lesbian, see, is that they don't like men. Your typical male ST geek doesn't get enough action in a (predominantly) non-lesbian universe. How bad would that suck to be in one where the women are *all* lesbians?

Alternate universes in the pilot? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256305)

Jeez! Alternate universes straight away?! Shouldn't they kick around for at least one episode and establish themselves a little?

The costumes? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256311)

Will they wear costumes more similar to those in TOS than those in TNG? I mean, just think about those skirts ;)

First episode (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256313)

I just hope the first episode is called "The Ass Menagerie"

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Re:Hello everybody (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256399)

Hey, that one looks really good. Congrats.

Re:Hello everybody (-1)

ubertroll (153053) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256410)

Fuck you anyway.

Wow. (-1, Offtopic)

Friedrich Engels (465654) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256462)

That was art. Congratulations.

Not enough silicon-based life forms on Star Trek? (5, Funny)

tenzig_112 (213387) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256315)

Silicon-based life forms protest the Star Trek premiere for its aparent xenophobia.


"There are simply not television shows featuring silicon-based characters on your earth television. Sure, there is the occasional silicon-based token character- usually just a humanoid who claims to be made of silicon. But it very often dies in the first ten minutes of an episode. That is wrong and we wish to see that rectified."


"... In truth the science fiction industry has done a lousy job of representing non-human species. A glob of putty on the nose here, a pointed ear there and presto- an alien. Even the shows that strive for some level of originality stick human-centric arms and legs on them."



full story:
http://www.ridiculopathy.com/news_detail.php?displ ay=20010829 [ridiculopathy.com]

Re:Not enough silicon-based life forms on Star Tre (0, Offtopic)

ReidMaynard (161608) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256383)

Hasn't ST discovered Hollywood by now? Pleanty of silicon there ....

Rest easy, I'm sure big fake hooters are on the way ....

Re:Not enough silicon-based life forms on Star Tre (0)

zonker (1158) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256485)

that's silicone... not silicon... =)

Re:Not enough silicon-based life forms on Star Tre (1)

cactopus (166601) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256387)

Yeah bring back the Tholians!

...or Gorn

AJ

Hortas! (4, Funny)

wiredog (43288) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256394)

They were silicon based, turned out to be good guys, and had no manipulative digits. Looked like dog vomit, from a large dog, though.

Re:Not enough silicon-based life forms on Star Tre (1)

steevo.com (312621) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256433)

Perhaps Jeri Ryan could make a guest appearance to help this problem out.

Maybe because the actors are human (-1, Offtopic)

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Question (3, Funny)

schnitzi (243781) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256319)

How many times can people from a parallel universe visit ours before we start considering this parallel universe part of our own? Sheesh, these parallel universe people are starting to outnumber Klingons.

The only way Trek could be any worse would be if it was sung.

Re:Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256347)

"The only way Trek could be any worse would be if it was sung. "

That would make it a true space opera.

Re:Question (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256355)

Trek Rock? I like the sound of that!

So you say you are a Klingon?
A race of agressive wart-heads.
Well, we are the Federation
And we strive to make all other races dead!

Star Trek: The Musical (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256386)

(sung to the tune of the old Batman show)
Star TREK!

nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh

STAR TREK!

nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh

STAR TREK!

STAR TREK!

Staaaar Treeeeek!


repeat ad nauseum ... or until a PUD (parallel universe dude) locks you in the holideck and turns off off the safety overrides.


Anonymous Kev

proudly posting as Anonymous Coward since 1997

Re:Question (3, Funny)

tb3 (313150) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256470)

Not sure if this is what you had in mind but this tidbit comes from the scifi wire website:

Paramount has chosen English opera star Russell Watson to cover the Rod Stewart tune Faith of the Heart as the opening theme music of UPN's upcoming Enterprise series.


Is that close enough to a Star Trek musical?

Peace and Love? (1)

Caraig (186934) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256322)

From the original article:


These human supremacists don't want the soft liberal peace and love Federation of Kirk and the Next Generation's universe coming into fruition,[...]

Peace and love? Kirk? I mean, besides the fact that he didn't always limit himself to homo sapiens, Kirk kicked butt and took names, he wasn't representative of any 'peace and love Federation.' Yeah, he met some hippies, but It's hard to see the 'Space Hippies' taking over the Feds. =)

Re:Peace and Love? (4, Funny)

jayhawk88 (160512) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256464)

Yeah, but at least Kirk *pretended* to be peaceful.

"Alien..general we.......meanyounoharm (Sulu ready phasers)....Our culture is.......one of peace and........tranquility (Spock get a lock on).......We can settle......our differences.....peacefully....FIRE!"

UPN :-( (1)

FortKnox (169099) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256330)

Ugh, the new trek is on UPN, which isn't a part of Time-Warner Cable in Cincinnati. I gotta get out an antenna and try to get UPN outta neighboring cities. Talk about lame...

Re:UPN :-( (1)

Chakat (320875) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256395)

I gotta get out an antenna and try to get UPN outta neighboring cities. Talk about lame...

Not as lame as the boat I'm in. For an antenna, I've got a resistor, a coat hanger, and a $20 radio shack signal amplifier. Seriously. I'd flash up a picture for one and all, but my digital camera is unavailable at the moment. Though I think you should bash heads at TW to get them to start carrying your local UPN affiliate.

It would be dumb... (1)

AUSketch (469630) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256409)

for them to put it on anything else. Think about it. UPN is Paramount's network, and Star Trek is made by Paramount. Star Trek is really the only thing UPN has going for it, so if there wasn't a ST there, the network would die.....fast.

Re:UPN :-( (1)

Mister Black (265849) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256414)

TimeWarner here in Austin did a major reshuffle of the channels and also added a UPN channel as well as a bunch of other garbage. I guess my Buffy watching friends complained enought that TimeWarner added UPN rather than listen to them bitch. Maybe TW-Cinci has the same thing in store.

as I am living in Cinci as well... (-1)

motherfuckin_spork (446610) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256438)

Time-Warner sucks.

UPN, likewise, sucks.

And come to think of it, Star Trek sucks.

I don't see what the big deal is...

The Kirk spirit (2, Insightful)

shd99004 (317968) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256338)

Will the captains be like those from TNG or VOY, or will they have that attitude, more like Kirk had?

Must... see... soon... (2, Interesting)

Midnight Ryder (116189) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256339)

I'm dying to watch Enterprise. While I've heard a couple of people say it's gonna suck, I really think it's possible it may end up being the best Trek yet.


The future isnt' so far way in Enterprise - it's going to be easier, IMHO, to relate to the universe in the Enterprise series than it was in ST:TNG (and definitely easier to relate to than Voyager. Blah.) I also think they may have a chance to make statements about humanity in general again. Voyager pretty much never did it, and DS9 didn't make much of an effort.


But, of course, that's just my opinion. No matter how good or bad it is, someone is gonna say it sucks compaired to (TOS, TNG, DS9, V, TAS ;-)


The bad guys however - this could be interesting. I do hope they are used sparingly like they did the Borg for a while, instead of every episode centering around trying to duke it out with them.


Everyone cross your fingers, and hope they manage to get this series right!


Re:Must... see... soon... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256461)

and best yet, we can see how communist GNU ideals transformed the world into the super-technological utopia that it is in ST!

Nice code (-1, Offtopic)

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Re:Nice code (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256377)

Have you read the HTTP MFC? 200 is a successful response. The code works fine! Duh!

star trek is hideously gay (-1)

motherfuckin_spork (446610) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256341)

it makes me want to kill people, it is so dumb. someone, please, put an end to this foul and peutrid show once and for all!

Anyone ready to place bets... (5, Funny)

Masem (1171) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256342)

on how long into the series until Bakula's character has to say "Oh, boy!"?

Re:Anyone ready to place bets... (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256382)

Someone mod this message up :P

Transporters that Kill: (5, Funny)

AMuse (121806) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256356)

they will have transporters, but they won't be trusted because they randomly kill people

Cool! Just like the Muni buses in San Francisco. :>

Babylon 5 on dvd anyone? (0, Offtopic)

wubboy (96276) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256363)

Just wondering if anyone knows about a dvd release of the B5 series?

Contrived plot (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256368)

It seems to me that this plot is too contrived to be taken seriously. "evil mirror-villains from the future"?? Isn't that the plot to "Power Rangers: Time Force!"?

The other shows all had simple, realistic premises-the Enterprise is exploring the universe, Voyager is trying to get back home, the Enterprise is exploring the universe with a much crappier crew.

Anyway, the point of this is that clearly the plot is degenerating as new shows are produced. This obviously means that each successive "Star Trek" show is worse than the last. This means that Kirk is much, much better than Picard. QED.

Re:Contrived plot (1)

Kanon (152815) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256451)

Nah. In Power Rangers the monsters are more realistic :)

Contrived plot (Yeah, he was a troll, but...) (5, Insightful)

Midnight Ryder (116189) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256476)

It seems to me that this plot is too contrived to be taken seriously. "evil mirror-villains from the future"??


Gee, isn't a much richer plotline and a sense of deeper continuity a good part of what people said made Bab5 such a great show? Seems like P'mont is "getting it" this time, and trying the same tricks. Sounds like a perfectly good idea to me!


The other shows all had simple, realistic premises-the Enterprise is exploring the universe, Voyager is trying to get back home, the Enterprise is exploring the universe with a much crappier crew.


Well, for ST:TNG if you take the first episode and the last episode they used to try and tie up the entire series with, then the plot becomes a bit larger than just exploring the universe. It's humanity's trial by fire by a much greater power that sees potental within us. Q tells Picard at the begining we are on trial. At the end, Q give Picard both the power to destroy ourselves as a species, and gives him the power to expand his abilities beyond the human norm, to experience the universe ever so slightly like the Q does. Picard managed wrap his mind around the situation finally (but never completely understands it) and humanity (with Picard as it's representative) makes it past it's trial by fire.


Too bad they never followed up on it at all in the movies or other series. They really could have had fun with humanity beinging to awaken it's self, instead of relying on technology solely.


(In TNG's final episode, if you want to try and search to find deeper meaning, you can. But ya gotta try really hard - pretty much streaching it and giving the writers more credit than is really due. I'm definitely not going to give that synopsis here on Slashdot to have it picked through ;-)


Anyway, the point of this is that clearly the plot is degenerating as new shows are produced. This obviously means that each successive "Star Trek" show is worse than the last. This means that Kirk is much, much better than Picard. QED.


Troll. Really.


Egad, I hope not! (2, Troll)

wowbagger (69688) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256371)

I fevently hope this article is pure BS! I am so damn tired of every Star Drek show being TimeTraveling Baddies From An Alternate Universe®. I was hoping, from the trailers, that Enterprise was going to be more like the STTOS. If this article is even half correct, then it's time to take the Star Trek universe and put a stake through its heart, fill its mouth with garlic bulbs, cut its head off with a gravedigger's shovel, and bury it at a crossroads in blessed ground.

Re:Egad, I hope not! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256426)

Mad props for your vampire killing knowledge.

posting anonymously to save off topic arse

Re:Egad, I hope not! (2)

wowbagger (69688) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256467)

Upon consideration, I can thing of exactly one [ucl.ac.uk] case in which I would accept TimeTraveling Baddies From An Alternate Universe® in the Star Trek Universe.

However, this is somewhat unlikely to happen until CGI gets much better at rendering teeth and curls....

Klingons (0, Redundant)

x24 (81159) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256372)

"...humanity gets to meet its first Klingon. Said knobbly faced warrior..."

I was wondering if they were going to use the forehead-ridged Klingons or the pansy Romulan-wannabes from TOS.

observation (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256376)

I just figured out to make myself feel better about myself, in a hurry. Just go put your "Threshold Limit" to Zero and bottom-troll. Literally, apparently. Wow. I now know what I have been missing and it isn't pretty. I thought public school was mandatory?

sign of a true geek (2)

Proud Geek (260376) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256390)

That's how I can always tell who a TRUE geek is. We were the only ones who watched Voyager, anyway. Hopefully this one will have at least enough appeal to non-geeks to keep it on the air everywhere.

Re:sign of a true geek (2)

geekoid (135745) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256456)

GEEK != watch crappy show because it makes us a geek.

A prediction (1)

shd99004 (317968) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256391)

Somehow, I don't think Harry Mudd-like characters will be that common in this show...

Here's a mirror universe for you (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256404)

Right here [google.com] .

OK, it doesn't work yet, but come on guys, this will be funny once the story gets archived by slashdot and cached by google. Let's see if you moderators can make the leap and transcend the boundary of time.

fOh er cryin out loud. (1)

lobsterGun (415085) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256405)

Is that plot the best they can come up with? Couldn't they leave Time Travel alone for just a few episodes?

This series sounds wretched.

already have continuity errors (2)

geekoid (135745) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256417)

early Klingons have been established to NOT have bumps. This was in TNG.

No More Holodeck Episodes! (w00t) (2)

rho (6063) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256418)

I'm seriously happy about one thing -- Enterprise won't have that god-awful writer's trick, the Holodeck. That damn thing ruined many a TNG and Voyager episode (it wasn't relied upon so heavily in DS9, thank goodness)

Rayguns! Aliens! Rocketships! I love it!

Re:No More Holodeck Episodes! (w00t) (2, Funny)

phranking (134197) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256440)

Not used in DS9? You have now forced me to remind you of Vic Fontaine.

Star Trek isn't sci-fi (3, Insightful)

wiredog (43288) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256432)

It's future-fantasy. Sci-fi is based on real, or at least plausible, science. It doesn't have a particle-of-the-week.

That said, I'm looking forward to the show.

Re:Star Trek isn't sci-fi (2)

geekoid (135745) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256466)

so name 3 sci-fi shows?

My iPaq kicks the ass of any tricorder. NT (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256435)

I said NT

song (3, Informative)

zephc (225327) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256442)

just in case anyone is interested, the song from all the promos is called "Wherever You Will Go" by 'The Calling'

startrek.com has all the promos/teasers available (in qt though)

No "morality play" potential. (4, Insightful)

Rimbo (139781) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256444)

The first thing that jumps out at me from this description is that there's no potential for morality plays, which was the basis of the original series and the Next Generation (while Roddenberry lived).

I'm not here to say that this is better or worse, or to whine about things not being the same since Roddenberry died, but rather to discuss what has changed. Whether or not this is a good thing varies depending on your taste.

Star Trek was set up as a mechanism for telling stories, not a story in itself. The characters represented archetypes (or even the id, ego, and superego -- guess which one is which). The Enterprise itself and its mission were just metaphors, and the fantastic nature was intended to give people the freedom to explore a variety of subjects in metaphorical, exaggerated, or "what if" ways. Just like a lot of great sci-fi.

This doesn't deny the new series' potential to be very entertaining and very good. But the new series is clearly different. In the new series, the situation is clearly defined. Aliens are just aliens, not symbols of ourselves in various guises. The new series presents an interesting point of view: Star Trek represented a utopian vision of our future; this series could be a vehicle to explore how we can achieve that particular utopia.

Although that's pretty limited compared to the scope of the original series, where various utopian ideals could be compared and contrasted from show to show, it still could be very fascinating, because many of us would have different ideas for how such a utopia could be reach, and in this age of irony, most of us probably doubt we could achieve it at all.

Que! (3, Insightful)

Jordy (440) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256450)

Bring back Que! Que was in my opinion the most entertaining character ever to grace ST. Ok, maybe I just like the idea of a morally blank omnipotent person who moves people around like chess peices to see how the other side responds.

Everyone else was so emotionally blank and serious that having someone inject a little fun into their otherwise by-the-book lives was interesting.

Of course, from what I understand, Enterprise is supposed to be before there was a book to go by, which might make things a bit more entertaining.

Maybe they should just bring back the really, really short skirts, move it to Showtime beside SG-1 and do something more... interesting once in a while. Actually, compared to the original ST, TNG was a bit bland in that regard, but compared to TNG, the last generations of ST were seriously devoid of any serious long-term sexual tension.

Of course, that's just my opinion; I could be wrong.

Star Trek Voyager (1)

Captain Pooh (177885) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256452)

Star Trek Voyager was the best Star Trek ever, well the original was cool also, but Voyager is the best. Picard is a poser compared to Janeway, and how many starships had a borg turned human working onboard?

Trekkie, it is time for a boner (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2256460)

It pleases me that Trekkie will again have a boner. Perhaps he will propagate.

Damn discrimination (1)

Chakat (320875) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256468)

It's not clear if this bunch are from the main mirror universe or a side-line mirror universe, as some of the suggestions from our man at Paramount seem to be that the time travellers are descendants of Khan-like warlords ... heavily enhanced by genetic engineering. This is the future they want for humanity ... turning everyone into Bashir-like geniuses (even if the poor old normals don't want super-powers).

Why is it that everyone who wants to genetically enhance some people is automatically classified as being a monomaniacal fascist who wants to take over the country/world/universe/whatever? Hey, I'm for revising the human race's source code, but not for upgrading by humanity by force. Why can't we have one scifi show or movie that shows modified people in a good light.

Though I would think it would be interesting to androgynize the human race. Probably solve a lot of problems, too...

Colors :-) (2, Funny)

Bender Unit 22 (216955) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256472)

I like this part:

"There's also color in the graphics on the screens, so it's never going to be a dull picture."

Whoa, all the colors of the 'bow, man! :-)

Star Trek Programming (0, Troll)

Bob McCown (8411) | more than 12 years ago | (#2256481)

do
{
if( current_time >= start_time + 45 )
{
solution = PARTICLE_OF_THE_WEEK;
FinishUp();
}
sleep(60_SECONDS);
} while (viewers_still_watching_this_drek);
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