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Distracted Driving: All Lip Service With No Legit Solution

Soulskill posted about 3 months ago | from the problems-we-don't-really-want-to-solve dept.

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redletterdave writes: "April was National Distracted Driving Awareness Month. Unfortunately, the recognition of this month for distracted driving was a hollow gesture — just like the half-hearted attempts at developing apps that prevent cell phone use while driving. After a week of trying to find an app that prevents me from all cell phone use from behind the wheel entirely, I've given up. The Distracted Driving Foundation lists about 25 apps on its website — there are a few more on Apple's App Store — but I couldn't find a single one that was easy to use. Most were either defunct, required onerous sign-up processes, asked for subscription plans, or simply didn't work as advertised."

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184 comments

I farted (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46883845)

Obligatory slashdot troll. No one cares.
 
- Ethanol-fueled

Re:I farted (5, Insightful)

koreanbabykilla (305807) | about 3 months ago | (#46884027)

Nice FP EF. That being said, if the submitter wants to pay me to come slap the fucking phone out of his hand when he tries to use it while driving, my services are available for a fee. If you cant just not use the phone while driving w/o an app enforcing it, you have bigger problems than just driving while distracted.

Re:I farted (2)

CheshireDragon (1183095) | about 3 months ago | (#46884205)

If you cant just not use the phone while driving w/o an app enforcing it, you have bigger problems than just driving while distracted.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I don't know what is so important what someone said you are willing to get seriously injured or die for.

Re:I farted (-1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 3 months ago | (#46884963)

I answer calls in my car all the time. Sometimes it's from the wife, sometimes a job. If you can't drive safely while holding a phone to your ear, you don't deserve to be on the road. There are distractions everywhere.

Police car over there, make sure I'm driving ok.
Ambulance siren; where is it? Do I have to change lanes?
Damn short green arrow, maybe I can floor it and make it through.
Hey, I like this song. "Sweeeeet Hoooome Alabama"
So, when that girl last night looked at me, I should have said ....

And on and on.

If you are getting in accidents because you are talking to someone who isn't in the car with you, stop driving.

And, no, none of my accidents have been because I was on a cell phone. Or drunk/high.

Re:I farted (3, Insightful)

Archangel Michael (180766) | about 3 months ago | (#46884283)

Whatever you're doing on the phone isn't worth dying for. Period. People caught should have their license revoked and fined hundreds of thousands of dollars going to a victim compensation fund for all the idiots who lost family members due to idiot driving.

I have no sympathy for assholes who risk not only their own lives, but everyone else's. NONE

Re:I farted (0)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 3 months ago | (#46884975)

Everyone who is driving a car is risking their own lives as well as everyone else's.

There were accidents long before cell phones.

If you don't like people dying in car accidents, ban automobiles. It's the only solution.

Re:I farted (1)

Penguinisto (415985) | about 3 months ago | (#46884103)

In other news, at least some apps do well in TFA's regard: For instance, the Waze app will not let you text in-app if it detects itself as moving above a certain speed (5mph or so?), and says so specifically. It does have a button that allows you to say you're a passenger (and then text anyway), and it will take speech-to-text at any speed, but I thought that was cool that it said something along those lines.

Of course, as an app designed to be used while driving, it kinda makes sense, but I don't see why Google doesn't pony up and put something similar in Android itself; it would take a bit of work, but a mode which sense itself above a certain speed and disables the whole keyboard (querty keyboard, not dialpad) except for text-to-speech.

There is this button. (5, Insightful)

Maxo-Texas (864189) | about 3 months ago | (#46883847)

You press and hold it and the phone turns off.

It's free.

Re:There is this button. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46883957)

Easier solution, just put it down and ignore it. Just because it rings doesn't mean I need to answer it.

Re:There is this button. (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46883969)

Or folks get over the bug-a-boo that is 'distracted driving' as being the fault of cell phones.

Hi, I live in Kansas City, Missouri.

Are you an adult? AKA at least 18 years old?

You're allowed to ride your bicycle without a helmet.

You're also allowed to text, make phone calls, do whatever on your whatever in your whatever while you go from wherever to wherever.

You're also allowed to be pulled over for reckless driving if you're doing any of these things, or eating a burger in one hand and drinking a big-gulp in the other, or spending more time screaming over your shoulder at your kids in the back seat tha paying attention to the road.

But if you're just cruising down a mostly empty road and checking asking what you were supposed to pick up at Burger King? Have a nice day.

But if, heaven help you, you get in an accident and they prove you were on your cell phone? Good luck not being found at fault.

I'd rather get busted if I fuck up, and be able to be pulled over if I'm unsafe in the eyes of the officer, than have a zero-tolerance nanny policy akin to getting expelled from high school because a kitchen knife fell out of a box you were moving over the weekend and got stuck in your pickup truck bed and you didn't notice it.

Re: There is this button. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884085)

How about free to have the biker follow you until you stop and then kick the ever-loving shit out of you for 'not seeing him?'

Re: There is this button. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884549)

You're always free to have that outcome.

Especially in Missouri.

(Cheers from St. Louis!)

Re: There is this button. (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 3 months ago | (#46885017)

Shit, I'd be ok with him doing that to me for cutting him off.

As my cousin Vinny says, I could use a good ass-kicking.

Re:There is this button. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884397)

Hear, hear!

As Clint Eastwood put it, we've all turned in to a bunch of pussies!

It is clearly true that a bunch of people cannot deal with talking on a phone while driving. Many (all?) of the same people probably cannot drive well without a phone either.
The problem with laws is they are blanket stupid and often allows for all sorts of misapplication due to being poorly defined.

I'd personally rather take the chance of being blown up than the criminal and inefficient treatment we get at airports. Put that money towards good old fashion police work, which is the only thing that actually produces results anyway.

There has to be a test to give to people to see if they should be allowed to drive a vehicle. Oops there is, but it does not at all test their common sense such as when driving and being distracted, what do you give priority to?

When I talk while driving I often have to ask people to repeat themselves because I give priority attention to traffic. I find it very easy to do.

Re:There is this button. (5, Insightful)

JustinOpinion (1246824) | about 3 months ago | (#46884255)

You're of course correct. (As are the many other replies that amount to: "Just don't use the phone while driving, dummy!")

However, it's worth keeping in mind how the human mind works; in particular its limitations. Our minds and behaviours are inherently flawed. Part of being a smart and responsible person is not just modulating your behaviour, but also designing your life so as to elicit the right kinds of outcomes. A simple example is putting an item that you want to bring with you tomorrow by the door. You could "Just remember to grab it when you leave tomorrow morning!", but you're accounting for your own fallible memory by putting it by the door while you're thinking of it. Another example would be a person who puts a tempting snack on an inaccessible shelf: they buy the snack because they want to have a treat sometimes, but they purposefully make it slightly inconvenient for themselves to eat the snack, so that they don't just reflexively eat it all the time. It's part of a strategy to invoke more rational thinking, rather than just let your immediate impulses win.

There are many more examples of such behaviour. Obviously it's "better" to simply have infinite willpower and rationality; but for people who do not (and if we're being honest, this describes all of us; though our individual temptations and biases are different), it can be useful to design your life to account for your fallibility.

So, in principle a cellphone app that disables the phone while driving can be useful. It's for people who recognize that it's a really bad idea to use your phone while driving, and yet are so addicted to their phone that they cannot avoid answering it when it rings. (Or are so addicted to status updates that they will absentmindedly check when bored, even if they are driving!) These people may also not have the discipline (or memory) to (for instance) always put the phone in the trunk before getting behind the wheel. For those people, such an app can be useful.

Having said all that, I think it's unrealistic to expect an app to properly differentiate between the situations where you would want the phone disabled (while driving) and those where you don't (parked, passenger in a car, etc.). So I think the question-poster should instead investigate other ways to modulate their own behaviour (e.g. put a holder in the car, in a very visible location, that says "PHONE BATTERY GOES HERE", and always pull out the battery before turning on the car).

Re:There is this button. (1)

Kjella (173770) | about 3 months ago | (#46884723)

So I think the question-poster should instead investigate other ways to modulate their own behaviour (e.g. put a holder in the car, in a very visible location, that says "PHONE BATTERY GOES HERE", and always pull out the battery before turning on the car).

So what percentage of cell phone users does that actually work for these days?

Re:There is this button. (1)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | about 3 months ago | (#46884879)

I never forget to not answer the phone when I don't want to answer the phone. Answering the phone is not something I do without thinking, much like driving. I can't conceive of what kind of person would just answer the phone simply because it's ringing.

The only purpose of this app would be to inflict my opinions on other people. You come to a website, get ready to read my nonsense, but you shouldn't have to put up with it if you want to avoid it. The same goes for cell phone bans. I've been driving >20 years, I talk on my cell phone while driving when I must. I have never once had an accident. The majority of my life has been in NYC, with interludes in Washington DC, San Jose and what's becoming an extended stay in Austin...hardly rural low traffic areas.

My conclusion is that there are people who cannot drive and talk at the same time, and those people should choose not to do so. They are putting their own lives at risk, I believe that is sufficiently discouraging, no further laws, "awareness" and other social bullshittery required. I will continue to drive as though every person on the road wishes to kill me, as I always have. In addition to cell phones, people are frequently chemically disrupted, emotionally disrupted, armed, fighting with their children, fighting with their spouse or SO, looking at maps, lost, confused, dazed, dumb, bored, sleepy or otherwise temporarily or permanently incompetent. We can try to ban, make "aware" or otherwise penalize people for driving in these situations, but we'll spend more time and money trying than we'll save. I acknowledge by driving on public roads, that there is a non-zero chance of me or my family suffering property loss, permanent and painful physical harm, and death. I wish I did not have to drive, but I wish a lot of things I can't have.

Re:There is this button. (1)

Bob9113 (14996) | about 3 months ago | (#46885281)

However, it's worth keeping in mind how the human mind works; in particular its limitations. Our minds and behaviours are inherently flawed. Part of being a smart and responsible person is not just modulating your behaviour, but also designing your life so as to elicit the right kinds of outcomes. A simple example is putting an item that you want to bring with you tomorrow by the door. You could "Just remember to grab it when you leave tomorrow morning!" ... So, in principle a cellphone app that disables the phone while driving can be useful. It's for people who recognize that it's a really bad idea to use your phone while driving, and yet are so addicted to their phone that they cannot avoid answering it when it rings.

OK, so tape a piece of paper to your steering wheel that says, "Turn off your phone." You're making this way harder than it is.

Re:There is this button. (2)

CityZen (464761) | about 3 months ago | (#46884527)

And your teenage driver will certainly follow this advice, just like he/she followed every other piece of useful advice you have offered.

Re:There is this button. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884721)

You press and hold it and the phone turns off.

It's free.

It disgusts me as to the statistical size of the overall population that would consider turning OFF their cell phone an "impossibility".

Which is the exact reason we're even having this discussion. People can't stop killing other innocent people on the road.

And no, there is no other way to put it, especially to those who think helping is "impossible".

Re:There is this button. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46885087)

I have friends who seem unable to comprehend not answering the phone. "But it could be important!" Yes, it could be. I'll bet you all the money you earn this month that it's not though. Most likely it's:

1). Someone you know who just wants to talk (easily rescheduled);
2). Someone who can easily leave a message;
3). Someone you don't know and don't want to talk to (voice spam).

The only calls that you truly ought to answer RIGHT NOW are:

1). Someone you know and love is profoundly sick or dead;

2). Your car/house/work is on fire;
3). Some sort of automated notification of a weather alert or something similar.

And even then, is it worth endangering yourself or another human being? What if you kill someone? Will you feel good that you hurt another just so that you got a half-hour's earlier notification about something you probably couldn't change in that timeframe?

User error? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46883863)

You need an app to prevent you from using your cell phone whilst driving? Perhaps some personal restraint is in order...

Re:User error? (4, Insightful)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about 3 months ago | (#46883921)

That'll never work. Clearly we need a technological solution!

More seriously... why do you need to turn the phone off? If it rings or buzzes while you're driving, DONT PICK UP THE DAMN THING.

Re:User error? (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 3 months ago | (#46884035)

That'll never work. Clearly we need a technological solution!

More seriously... why do you need to turn the phone off? If it rings or buzzes while you're driving, DONT PICK UP THE DAMN THING.

butbutbutbut... I'm just so goddamned important!

Hey, remember when "there's an app for that" was used in jest? Man, talk about the 'good ol days...'

Re:User error? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46885237)

More importantly, why does it need to be ON all of the time? Seems like a public campaign to have people turn their phones OFF while driving seems to be the right way to go.

seriously? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46883865)

Are you kidding me? You need an app to make sure that you don't use your cell phone while driving? What's next? an app to make sure you don't swear on the phone to your mother?

Re:seriously? (1)

CheshireDragon (1183095) | about 3 months ago | (#46884267)

I'm 34. My mother doesn't give a shit what the fuck I say on the phone. She knows I am an adult and have to vent frustrations at times that she is ok if I rattle of 'fuck' a few times.

Raise awareness (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46883873)

They could raise awareness by sending out a bulk text message to every cell phone in America.

Re:Raise awareness (1)

CheshireDragon (1183095) | about 3 months ago | (#46884287)

You're right. Give the NSA a call. I am sure they have the ability to do this since they have all of us in their database.

There's an app for that? (5, Insightful)

jdavidb (449077) | about 3 months ago | (#46883875)

After a week of trying to find an app that prevents me from all cell phone use from behind the wheel entirely

Maybe my perspective is limited because I still have a dumb phone, but it strikes me that maybe the problem is that you are trying to solve this problem with the wrong tool.

Re:There's an app for that? (4, Funny)

Jason Levine (196982) | about 3 months ago | (#46884107)

Exactly! If you use the right tool, you can solve this instantly. Take a hammer and use it on your phone. Then you won't be able to use it while driving. What's that you say? You can't use it when you're not driving either now? That's a bug that we hope to have fixed in Hammer 2.0.

Re:There's an app for that? (0)

jdavidb (449077) | about 3 months ago | (#46884237)

I think this business of getting an app is just self-righteousness. People who oppose cell phone use while driving simply don't use their cell phones - their problem is that they want everybody else to stop using their phones. So you can use an app to prevent it and tell everybody how great you are for doing so and hope they follow suit. But in this case your solution, the hammer, sounds better.

Re:There's an app for that? (2)

CheshireDragon (1183095) | about 3 months ago | (#46884307)

Or simply practice restraint/self control.

Re:There's an app for that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884747)

Or simply practice restraint/self control.

Uh...that kinda sounds like...work.

Fuck that.

- The Future Generation

Re:There's an app for that? (2)

LookIntoTheFuture (3480731) | about 3 months ago | (#46884365)

After a week of trying to find an app that prevents me from all cell phone use from behind the wheel entirely

Maybe my perspective is limited because I still have a dumb phone, but it strikes me that maybe the problem is that you are trying to solve this problem with the wrong tool.

I would say that if a person cannot figure out the solution on their own, they are a tool.

Re:There's an app for that? (1)

timeOday (582209) | about 3 months ago | (#46884411)

maybe the problem is that you are trying to solve this problem with the wrong tool.

Obviously. And probably 99% of the messages to follow will just rant about the stupidity of thinking an app will fix this. Which leaves the actual issue of distracted driving unresolved. Most of the other 1% of posts will amount to "Just Say No," which is also a proposal to do nothing about it.

It would be better to propose some constructive measures.

Personally I think we need to re-visit the evidence on specific types of usage while driving, since so much of it comes from synthetic studies on a simulator or closed track which are highly questionable for that reason.

Re:There's an app for that? (1)

suutar (1860506) | about 3 months ago | (#46884775)

Well, if the driver commutes on a sufficiently regular basis, and is always the driver, then an app that silences the ringer, stops vibration, and keeps the screen from waking up during the right time would probably do the trick. Allow an override in case of emergency - if the phone power cycles, when it comes up the restrictions are off til the next time rolls around.

But it's probably simpler to just put the phone in the glove box.

Re:There's an app for that? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884859)

Step 1:
Buy a 2014 Camaro

Step 2:
Pair you phone with it via BlueTooth

Step 3:
Configure the phone to do what you want

I did not need a special app when I rented the vehicle. I suspect that other car manufacturers have similar features in their current models.

Easy fix (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46883881)

After a week of trying to find an app that prevents me from all cell phone use from behind the wheel entirely...

Are you kidding us? How dumb are you? How about just turning your cellphone off. That wasn't so hard.

Re:Easy fix (4, Funny)

PaddyM (45763) | about 3 months ago | (#46884523)

Oh yeah? Well you try turning the phone off when you're driving! I need some kind of animatronic assistant with opposable thumbs to execute my orders. Your "kill switch" approach is just another demonstration of the stagnation of technology by those who don't understand what kind of lip service I'm trying to avoid! If people like me succumbed to that sort of humdrum do-it-yourself dystopia, I'd hate to imagine what sort of synergy-less society we'd all become. Luckily I'll keep talking to all my best friends forever in my socialnetworkhood with my augmented reality headset where all us dreamers chill until we come up with something that truly solves my problem forever: distraction-free flying virtual segways coasting the information superhighway picking up apps that inspire and awe all future generations. And you just want me to turn it off. How dumb am I?!?!?!

Re:Easy fix (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46885275)

Erm, no. Just do the right thing, and turn it off.

Difficult to find apps (5, Funny)

sweBers (2469450) | about 3 months ago | (#46883897)

I spent my whole drive to work looking for apps to prevent me from using my phone. I gave up after parking my car.

Re:Difficult to find apps (1)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | about 3 months ago | (#46884055)

I gave up after parking my car.

I was too busy looking for the app and just left mine in drive. I gave up after tripping over the curb.

This requires an App???? (4, Funny)

CrimsonAvenger (580665) | about 3 months ago | (#46883905)

Seriously, does it really require an app to either:

A) Not answer?

B) Turn the phone off?

Well, if you can't handle either of the above, I suggest putting your phone in the trunk.

And if that doesn't work, set the phone on the ground just behind one tire of your car, get in the car, and back up ten feet....

Re:This requires an App???? (1)

PolygamousRanchKid (1290638) | about 3 months ago | (#46884113)

And if that doesn't work, set the phone on the ground just behind one tire of your car, get in the car, and back up ten feet....

And if that doesn't work, put your head on the ground just behind one tire of your car, get in the car, and back up ten feet....

This is almost tautological (5, Informative)

pthisis (27352) | about 3 months ago | (#46883909)

Either:
1) You want to use the phone while driving, in which case you're not going to use such an app; or
2) You don't want to use the phone while driving, in which case you can simply not use the phone.

My app (4, Funny)

sandytaru (1158959) | about 3 months ago | (#46883925)

It's called the iPurse. I keep my phone inside it when I'm in the vehicle. As long as you don't undo the zipper, the cell phone cannot be used while driving. They also have more masculine variations known as the iManBag that even have special slots to hold the phone.

Re:My app (1)

CheezburgerBrown . (3417019) | about 3 months ago | (#46883977)

iSensibleChuckled.

Re:My app (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884207)

They also have more masculine variations known as the iManBag that even have special slots to hold the phone.

I prefer the competitor: PantsPockets(TM). Yes it has smaller capacity, but still plenty for my phone, keys, and wallet.

Re:My app (2)

sandytaru (1158959) | about 3 months ago | (#46884221)

The downside of the PantsPockets(TM) is that you can still feel the tempting vibrations of the phone when it rings. The iManBag can be safely stored on the seat beside you, eliminating the temptation. Additionally, most PantsPockets(TM) do not come with a closure such as a snap or zipper.

Re:My app (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884583)

I have a man bag, but I don't think my phone will fit into it. There's no opening in the man bag and I'm fairly certain it's already full of small orbs already. Removing the orbs is not an option, as it creates the most painful sensation when you even attempt to find out what they are made of by squeezing them. I can't imagine the blinding pain of removing the orbs from the man bag.

Re:My app (2)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 3 months ago | (#46885089)

Lady, leave you man's balls alone. Stop torturing the guy by squeezing them while he's sleeping.

For the love of god, find some other way to make him stop snoring.

The Trunk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46883943)

If you don't want to be distracted by the phone either turn it off, or place it in the trunk and use Bluetooth when you get call. This eliminates the ability to read and respond to email/SMS/MMS etc.

Re:The Trunk (1)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 3 months ago | (#46884053)

If you don't want to be distracted by the phone either turn it off, or place it in the trunk and use Bluetooth when you get call. This eliminates the ability to read and respond to email/SMS/MMS etc.

Conversely, if you're so damn distractable that the only way you can prevent yourself from fucking with some toy while you're supposed to be driving, perhaps you should consider surrendering your license and taking the bus.

Re:The Trunk (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46885315)

Friends don't let friends drive with their cell phones turned on.

Agent (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46883947)

Agent (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tryagent) for the Android seems to work pretty well. Does "Do Not Disturb" and a couple of other things as well.

If you need an app to stop using your phone... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46883953)

you're doing it wrong

Captcha: puberty

Re:If you need an app to stop using your phone... (4, Insightful)

Austerity Empowers (669817) | about 3 months ago | (#46884067)

you're doing it wrong

Captcha: puberty

Pretty much everyone does that wrong.

Three Alternatives to Apps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46883963)

1. Hold the power button and click ok.
2. Place phone in bag, place bag in trunk.
3. Don't use your phone.

wow that's a lot of apps (5, Funny)

rubycodez (864176) | about 3 months ago | (#46883975)

I'll have to check those out on the drive home

Acceleromiters in the devices can shut them (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46883981)

Off if in a moving vehicle.

Re:Acceleromiters in the devices can shut them (2)

lister king of smeg (2481612) | about 3 months ago | (#46884173)

Off if in a moving vehicle.

sucks to be a passenger then.

Simple solution (1)

Todd Knarr (15451) | about 3 months ago | (#46883983)

There's a simple app to eliminate cel phone use while driving. It comes standard on every model of cel phone I know of, requires no sign-up and has a dead-simple user interface.

The app? The "silent" mode.

Wrong attribution (1)

Nethemas the Great (909900) | about 3 months ago | (#46883997)

Clearly the author is not correctly attributing the source of the problem.

How does the app detect that you're driving? (1)

jandrese (485) | about 3 months ago | (#46884013)

How is an app supposed to know that you're driving and not the passenger in a car? Also, as everybody else noted: every single cellphone has a silent feature. There's no need for an app.

In fact an app that has a subscription service to simply not use the phone while driving? That's bordering on fraud.

Ban Women (-1, Flamebait)

Tablizer (95088) | about 3 months ago | (#46884091)

Ban women passengers if you want to increase safety. I've ran 3 red lights either arguing with or being baffled or insulted by yapping women passengers.

They may be good (or decent) at yapping and driving at the same time due to practice, but I don't have that experience and they don't seem to realize that.

Re:Ban Women (2)

CanHasDIY (1672858) | about 3 months ago | (#46884177)

Ban women passengers if you want to increase safety. I've ran 3 red lights either arguing with or being baffled or insulted by yapping women passengers.

Yea, that was totally the female passenger's fault, not the fault of the moron behind the wheel... Good luck convincing a judge of that when you inevitably injure/kill someone because of your inattention.

My advice - surrender your license and pick up a bus schedule, if you find driving to be too difficult to focus your attention on.

Re:Ban Women (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about 3 months ago | (#46884369)

I'm not blaming anybody, only saying that

driving + women = crash

My advice - surrender your license and pick up a bus schedule, if you find driving to be too difficult to focus your attention on.

I do fine as long as there are no women in the car. Perhaps DMV should test drivers with Ms. Chatty and Mrs. Nosey in the back seat.

Re:Ban Women (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884539)

You're blaming Ms. Chatty and Mrs. Nosy instead of blaming yourself like you should. If they're distracting, pull over and tell them to shut up. If they don't then refuse to drive with them in the car and leave them right there.

Apparently you're an only child because you've never heard: "Don't make me come back there"

Personally, I hope you crash into a pole and lose the ability to drive. You're not mature enough to drive.

Re:Ban Women (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 3 months ago | (#46885161)

You're blaming Ms. Chatty and Mrs. Nosy instead of blaming yourself like you should. If they're distracting, pull over and tell them to shut up. If they don't then refuse to drive with them in the car and leave them right there.

Spoken like a true not-a-husband.

Re:Ban Women (1)

Todd Palin (1402501) | about 3 months ago | (#46884193)

I'll bet that doesn't happen to you very often.

Re:Ban Women (1)

wonkey_monkey (2592601) | about 3 months ago | (#46884243)

I've ran 3 red lights either arguing with or being baffled or insulted by yapping women passengers.

There's more than one common factor here.

Re:Ban Women (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884415)

"I've ran 3 red lights either arguing with or being baffled or insulted by yapping women passengers."

There is an easy solution to this that will ensure it never happens again - pull over no matter where you are, get out, walk around to the passenger door, open it and say "Get. The Fuck. Out.".

If they wont get out voluntarily, pull them out. Get back in your car and drive off. Works like a charm every time.

Not a huge surprise... (2)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 3 months ago | (#46884249)

It doesn't seem like a huge surprise that this space is currently a howling wasteland:

Most people who actually want such a service can just tap 'mute' or their platform equivalent when the dump their phone in the beverage holder and start up the car. They aren't going to be terribly good customers, unless you do something really clever, and people who do really clever things are probably focused on sexier, or at least more lucrative, segments.

The people who really don't want such a service aren't good customers; but their worried parents might be; but any software sold for that purpose is likely to be folded into some relatively expensive, subscription based, offspring-command-and-control suite, and thus notably hostile and overengineered for an individual just trying to automate muting his own phone.

It likely doesn't help that laws regulating what you can do in your car aren't all that popular, so there isn't much incentive for carriers or platform vendors to roll out nannyware voluntarily; but, if there were a shift in the wind, they would be overwhelmingly better placed than 3rd-party vendors to take advantage of their deep control of the platform and full access to all sensor data and crush the entire market, such as it is, with a single OS update. Game over man, game over.

Under those circumstances, why even bother?

? whaever... (1)

koan (80826) | about 3 months ago | (#46884259)

Why do you need an app to ignore your phone? Or in the worst case scenarios for you fuckwits that can't how hard is airplane mode? FFS what a whiny POS.

AT&T DriveMode (1)

erp_consultant (2614861) | about 3 months ago | (#46884293)

It's a free App that AT&T has. When you enable it and someone calls or sends you a text while driving (it uses the phone's GPS to detect movement) the phone will not ring and it will send a text to the caller telling them that you're driving right now and I'll call you later. Pretty slick.

But, seriously, just ignore the thing when it rings.

For many people, though, that might be nearly impossible. These phones have us trained like Pavlov's dog. Spolier alert - you're not that important. I'm not that important. If I were I would have other people to answer my calls for me.

Why does everyone need an "App" for everything? Try a little self restraint instead.

windows phone has "driving mode" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884309)

i have a windows phone and it has "driving mode" where all calls and texts are silenced/ignored. normally, i have it ignore texts and autoreply that i'm driving and will respond when i get to my destination. calls just immediately go to voicemail. it works really well and i can tie it to a BT device or just manually turn it on/off when needed. no app and no extra cost.
save your windows phone hate for other threads folks :)

Ignore it? (1)

wcrowe (94389) | about 3 months ago | (#46884375)

I don't understand why you need an app. Can't you just ignore the phone while you're driving? I have no trouble doing this. I regularly have to sit in meetings that last one or two hours where I ignore my phone. That's far longer than the amount of time I have to spend in my car. If you can't ignore your phone for awhile, perhaps what you need is a psychiatrist, and not an app.

Distracted Driving (2)

phorm (591458) | about 3 months ago | (#46884427)

There seems to be very little enforcement in general. I see tons of people acting/driving in unsafe manners within plain sight of police vehicles, this includes
* Cellular phone use
* Tailgating
* Crossing against the signal (for pedestrians: I add this because just the other day, some dude did this right in front of a police car. The cop slowed down for him and then continued on)
* Unsafe passing
* etc

The only time I see somebody getting nailed seems to be either:
a) A road-check
b) Speed at high rates past a radar trap

- Posted via my smartphone while driving on the i7

Just replace the driver (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884451)

Google has these cool cars that completely solve the problem of distracted driving. They drive themselves. In fact, they drive better than humans and could save thousands of lives a year. I'm not sure why congress allows people to drive anymore. Seriously, instead of buying an app, buy a self-driving car.

Re:Just replace the driver (1)

CityZen (464761) | about 3 months ago | (#46884519)

Hear hear! I'm anxious to see the day when people-driven cars are in the minority.

Distracted Driving Awareness Month (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884465)

I read about it on the drive to work

After a week?!?! You fucking moron (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884499)

Just turn your phone off, or ignore it.

Jesus H. Fucking Christ.

You need an app... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884511)

... to keep you from using your phone while you are driving? What are you? 10 years old?

GROW UP AND ACT LIKE AN ADULT.

Re:You need an app... (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 3 months ago | (#46885179)

You can't do two things at once? What are you, 3 years old?

GROW UP AND DRIVE LIKE AN ADULT.

Just Ban Passengers (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884533)

Recent studies have shown that talking to passengers was as distracting as talking on a cell phone - https://www.aaafoundation.org/sites/default/files/MeasuringCognitiveDistractions.pdf

Or.. just rethink transportation (2, Insightful)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 3 months ago | (#46884541)

Perhaps the best solution is just rethink transportation, period.

Take Europe, for example. You can call the drivers there "crazy" because they run red lights, lane markings are a suggestion (you can easily fit 4 lanes of traffic in a marked 2-lane road), park practically anywhere and everywhere, etc., but then you realize - these drivers are *GOOD*.

I mean, in North America, parallel parking spots are huge - we leave huge gaps between cars. While in Europe, they leave only inches between vehicles. And you'd think down a single lane alleyway with cars parked on both sides that you'd have a bunch of cars with dings and dents, but no. The cars are generally pristine, and the drivers are quite good.

And they're texting and driving.

How? Easy. European drivers drive because they want to. Public transit means if you don't want to drive to commute, you don't.

In North America, the problem is that cities are laid out for cars, so you have to drive, even if you don't want to. And lots of people don't want to drive. Instead they want to be doing other things, so not only is the general skill level of drivers low, they're not interested in driving at all.

Hence the need to re-think transportation in North America because a good majority of people are doing something they don't want to do. In fact, it'll be better on all sides - if the disinterested drivers had usable alternate means of transport, it leaves the roads free for those who do want to drive, enhancing life for everyone concerned.

That's the fundamental problem. In Europe, they drive because they want to drive. In North America, everyone's forced to drive.

Re:Or.. just rethink transportation (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about 3 months ago | (#46885327)

That is the most coherent argument for public transportation Hogwarts has seen these many years.

Obligatory (5, Funny)

maz2331 (1104901) | about 3 months ago | (#46884573)

Your post advocates a

(x) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante

approach to fighting distracted driving. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work.
(One or more of the following may apply to your particular idea, and it may have other flaws
which used to vary from state to state before a bad federal law was passed.)

(x) It blocks calling the cops on other drivers who pose a real threat
(x) Telling a passenger from a driver isn't possible
( ) No one will be able to find the guy or collect the money
(x) It is defenseless against brute force attacks
( ) It will stop distractions for two weeks and then we'll be stuck with it
( ) Users of phones will not put up with it
( ) Google & Apple will not put up with it
( ) The police will not put up with it
(x) Requires too much cooperation from drivers
( ) Requires immediate total cooperation from everybody at once
( ) Many users cannot afford to lose business or alienate potential employers
( ) Drivers don't care about crashing
( ) Anyone could anonymously destroy anyone else's career or business

Specifically, your plan fails to account for

( ) Laws expressly prohibiting it
( ) Lack of centrally controlling authority
(x) Affecting non-drivers
(x) Asshats
( ) Jurisdictional problems
(x) Other forms of distraction that are even more dangerous
( ) Unpopularity of weird new laws
( ) Public reluctance to accept weird new forms of money
(x) Willingness of users to install inconvencing apps
(x) Bluetooth tethering to the car's audio for handsfree use
( ) Technically illiterate politicians
(x) Extreme stupidity on the part of people who text while driving
(x) Dishonesty on the part of drivers themselves
( ) Bandwidth costs that are unaffected by client filtering
(x) Using a power button works better

and the following philosophical objections may also apply:

(x) Ideas similar to yours are easy to come up with, yet none have ever
been shown practical
( ) Any scheme based on opt-out is unacceptable
( ) Phone use should not be the subject of legislation
( ) Blacklists suck
( ) Whitelists suck
( ) We should be able to drive however we want
( ) Countermeasures should not involve wire fraud or credit card fraud
( ) Countermeasures should not involve sabotage of public networks
( ) Countermeasures must work if phased in gradually
( ) Why should we have to trust you and your servers?
( ) Incompatibility with open source or open source licenses
(x) Feel-good measures do nothing to solve the problem
( ) I don't want the government tracking my phone
( ) Killing them that way is not slow and painful enough

Furthermore, this is what I think about you:

(x) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work.
( ) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting it.
( ) Nice try, assh0le! I'm going to find out where you live and burn your
house down!

Drive. (4, Insightful)

ledow (319597) | about 3 months ago | (#46884649)

I can't express how relieved I am at the majority of responses here. Most of the comments on anything that suggest people should drive the damn car and not do other things, or stay under the speed limit, or otherwise drive safely are other leapt upon like some kind of weakness is present in those expressing them.

It's quite refreshing to see the majority of people say exactly what I was thinking - drive the fucking car, ignore the fucking phone. If you can't trust yourself, turn the fucking phone off.

Stop relying on computers and fucking apps to limit your own, personal, adult, behaviour. Like those people who rely on the Amazon Fire's "time limits" for their kids, or similar methods of parental control, it just makes me think that you're too stupid to be allowed to use those devices / have a kid / drive a car in the first place.

I'm the only person I know who will not answer a phone in a moving car. I actually have difficulty EXPLAINING to people why that is. They are incredulous and don't understand it. And they still ring me while I'm driving to meet them. How hard is it? I do not answer the phone while driving, nor will I phone to tell you I'm late unless I'm literally at a complete stop AND am late enough that you need to know.

I do use my phone as a sat-nav. It's not in my line-of-sight, even, it's down by the gearstick. I don't need to look at it (especially with turn-by-turn voice) unless I've stopped and am looking for the particular house I need - I can always just keep driving, turn around, go around the block or circle a roundabout if I miss a turning.

I do not answer it while driving. Anything that might be important, you'll ring back. Anything that is important will be enough to bother me and that will make me pull over and give my attention to your message. And if I find out that you've done that knowing I'm driving just to "see where I am", you'll be put on a silent ringtone on my phone forever more.

The phone is already the rudest device in human existence (ANSWER ME NOW, ANSWER ME NOW, ANSWER ME NOW, I'LL KEEP RINGING UNTIL YOU ANSWER ME NOW, I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU'RE DOING ANSWER ME NOW!). It's fast becoming the most dangerous device because of idiots like you.

Drive the fucking car. Switch the phone off. Enjoy the silence, or your music, and a legally-prescribed requirement to be excused from ignoring all those work calls that inevitably happen just as you leave.

NO PHONE CALL / EMAIL / TEXT is that important. If you're mother's dead in hospital, people will call back, and it will never be an emergency that requires your presence at the expense of every innocent driver and passenger on the road.

Re:Drive. (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 3 months ago | (#46884933)

It's quite refreshing to see the majority of people say exactly what I was thinking - drive the fucking car, ignore the fucking phone. If you can't trust yourself, turn the fucking phone off.

I don't trust you. But I trust myself to receive a phone call on speaker because I know from experience that I will ignore the person on the other end of the phone when necessary. I've done it before, and I will do it again.

Enjoy the silence, or your music, and a legally-prescribed requirement

To use my various hands-free solutions? Will do.

Re:Drive. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884967)

"I can always just keep driving, turn around, go around the block or circle a roundabout if I miss a turning." [sic]

Clearly spoken as someone who has never driven in Boston - http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/NewYorkvsBoston-41974.jpg

The REAL solution (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46884841)

Time to implement the REAL solution. Significantly raise the speed limits. Driving current speed limits does not require much driver attention allowing drivers to engage in other activities - ie phone, texting, eating, reading, etc. Raise the speed limits so driving requires your full attention and distracted driving will go away.

Motorcycles (1)

LionKimbro (200000) | about 3 months ago | (#46884849)

Drive a motorcycle. You'll either be driving, or you'll be dead. I promise you won't be texting (for very long)!

Re:Motorcycles (1)

Z00L00K (682162) | about 3 months ago | (#46885061)

Or put the phone in the trunk. If you have a handsfree system you might be able to answer it.

But a side problem is that most roads today are pretty boring, and that's the main cause for distracting activities.

I Had A Solution (1)

Greyfox (87712) | about 3 months ago | (#46885043)

Replace the airbag with a spike. If you get in an accident, you get a spike directly in the face. I bet you'll pay a LOT more attention to what's going on around you, then!

Everything is DD (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#46885141)

Everything in the car is distracted driving. From using a phone, to looking at a map, to using the new fancy UI's on the car's onboard screen, to eating/drinking or getting a blowjob. Bottom line, you'll never stop it completely.

Simple App Idea -- Free if you want it... (1)

Macdude (23507) | about 3 months ago | (#46885199)

An app that would disable the phone if it's moving at more than 20 KM/H.

Re:Simple App Idea -- Free if you want it... (1)

niftymitch (1625721) | about 3 months ago | (#46885301)

An app that would disable the phone if it's moving at more than 20 KM/H.

How does the app know you are driving in contrast to being a passenger?

I would rather most of my passengers talk on a phone than insist
that I pay attention to them while I am driving. Some exceptions
are the rare individual that can read a map and give directions.
So rare I bought a GPS nav device.

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