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Netcraft: Microsoft Closing In On Apache Web Server Lead

Soulskill posted about 7 months ago | from the tortoise-and-the-other-tortoise dept.

The Internet 102

angry tapir sends this IDG report: "After almost two decades of trailing the market leader, Microsoft's Web server software is coming close to rivaling the dominance of the Apache Web server, according to the latest Netcraft survey of Internet infrastructure. May saw an additional 9 million sites using Microsoft Web server software, increasing the company's share of the Web by 0.37 percent. In the same period, Apache's market share fell by 0.18 percent, despite gaining an additional 4.3 million sites. Microsoft is now just 4.1 percentage points behind Apache, which, as the most popular Web server software on the Internet, now powers about 37.6 percent of all sites."

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Apache is dying... (5, Funny)

Chris Mattern (191822) | about 7 months ago | (#46959815)

Netcraft confirms it!

Re:Apache is dying... (-1, Troll)

BiIl_the_Engineer (3618863) | about 7 months ago | (#46959897)

Day 1: While walking around the alleys in my city, I spotted my next target. I made a note of my target's location. It's beautiful; I can't wait to see what comes of this. I quietly departed.

Day 2: I returned to the same location I saw my target at yesterday, and found that it was still there; maybe it goes to that alleyway often? I snuck in closer and made note of some characteristics that I did not notice yesterday. I quietly departed.

Day 3: I returned to my new favorite alleyway and found that my target was there again. Man, she's gorgeous; I can't wait to make my move. I'll do to her what I did to all the others. I can't wait. I quietly departed.

Day 4: I found myself at the alleyway again; I couldn't resist. I noticed that my target has pinworms, which excited me greatly. My target still hasn't realized I've been stalking her. I vowed to make my move tomorrow, and I quietly departed.

Day 5: Today's the day. I returned to the same alleyway as usual, spotted my target, and got ready to make my move. "You're all mine," I thought. After observing my target for a few minutes and imagining all the fun I'll have with her, I charged in with a pocket knife, held her down, put it up to her throat, and told her not to struggle or scream. "You're all mine now, you slutty bitch!" I screamed.

Now, where shall we begin? I took out my pregnancy rod and started rubbing it all over the bitch. I want to do more, but it's always more fun to play with them first. "We're done playing, slut!" I screamed, as I smacked it around. "The real fun begins now!" I positioned my cock just right, and pushed in.

I shoved my cock all the way inside, and didn't stop until I reached its womb. "Oh, yes! You're going to be a mother soon, you piece of shit!" I shouted in delight. My cock mercilessly pumped in and out of the pinworm-infested piece of feces, and the urge to orgasm rose every second.

"You're not the first one I've done this to, so you're not alone. You're neither the first, and nor will you be the last." I whispered to the feces, as I continued moving in and out. Man, she was plump. This is the best feces I've ever raped. I'm almost at my limit, and my hips won't stop moving!

"Hahahaha! You fancy being impregnated, slut?" I screamed, as I was almost about to come. "I'm coming! Get pregnant, you piece of shit!" I shot out my seed into the deepest reaches of the feces's womb, and a shock wave of pleasure went through my entire body! "Make good use of that seed, got it?" I said, with a disgusting smile on my face. "Well, I've gotta go. Don't be a stranger, alright? I'll always be watching you." The emotionally-devastated piece of feces didn't utter a word. I triumphantly departed.

Day 6: While scouting the alleys in my city, I spotted my next target...

Re:Apache is dying... (2, Funny)

grub (11606) | about 7 months ago | (#46959953)


Every six days?
Seven digit UID slacker!

Re:Apache is dying... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960943)

HAHAHAHA! You forgot to logout faggot. I'm setting up an apk script to post a link back to this post every time you post. Fag.

Re:Apache is dying... (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 7 months ago | (#46962023)

BiIl_the_Engineer: "Software Engineer that designs and develops space based embedded solutions, which is a fancy way of saying I create cool stuff that flies at 120,000 feet and beyond (way beyond). I build very large balloon gondolas and satellites, and know too much about where Billy the Kid is buried."

Shouldn't you update the list of your hobbies?

K,S, Kyosuke = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46962065)

K. S. Kyosuke: You've been called out (for tossing names) & you ran "forrest" from a fair challenge http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org]

Re:K,S, Kyosuke = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46962071)

Everyone knows K.S. Kyosucky's a trolling illogical ad hominem attack using punk!

K.S. Kyosuke = "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46982711)

From a fair challenge like a chickenshit blowhard http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org]

K. S. Kyosuke gets called out & ran (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46982729)

From a fair challenge like a chickenshit blowhard http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org]

Re:Apache is dying... (1)

Bigbutt (65939) | about 7 months ago | (#46962237)

It's always fun when folks forget to log out of their workstations. :)

[John]

Re:Apache is dying... (4, Interesting)

Penguinisto (415985) | about 7 months ago | (#46959947)

...but did they confirm that most of Apache's lead was eaten away by nginx?

Also, there's this:

"Nearly seven million of this month's new websites are using Microsoft IIS. Around 11 thousand of these new sites are hosted on the Microsoft Azure platform (including a few phishing sites)"

Also, what are the odds that the majority of the new sites are on parked domains?

Re:Apache is dying... (5, Informative)

Zaiff Urgulbunger (591514) | about 7 months ago | (#46961379)

The other graphs on Netcraft [netcraft.com] pretty much answer this:

Web server developers: Market share of active sites = looks like MS is on a slight downward trend.

Web server developers: Market share of the top million busiest sites = looks like MS is on a slight downward trend.

And in both of those graphs, Apache is far and away holding the biggest share, *and* Nginx is ahead of MS. But let's face it, we all knew that anyway.

Re:Apache is dying... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46964057)

MS is not only behind Nginx in terms of active sites and busiest sites, but it is also behind Other. The implication of all of the Netcraft data is that Microsoft's web server software dominates the market of web sites that do nothing and are not visited.

Re:Apache is dying... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46965419)

The implication of all of the Netcraft data is that Microsoft's web server software dominates the market of web sites that do nothing and are not visited.

It's a hard job, but somebody has got to do it.

Hooray for Microsoft!
Hooray at last!
Hooray for Microsoft!
Dot dot dot.

Same shit every year. (2)

s.petry (762400) | about 7 months ago | (#46964909)

This same exact article and topic comes up every year, I sure do hope that Microsoft pays Netcraft enough money to lose all of the credibility they have to rebuild each year posting this drivel.

Last year was the same thing. I really hate to drive up their page hits just to refute their claims and I'm guessing that's why they say this shit. "Market share of active sites" this year is identical to last year and a true indicator. Somehow though, Netcraft claims Microsoft is gaining ground because pages that are never hosted are being developed for servers that do not exist. It has boggled the mind for several years, but now it's obvious. Do not go look at their garbage to give them a spike in page views.

Next year I refuse to look, and hope you do to. Piece of shit companies making blatantly false claims should simply die by the road side. Netcraft has continually made themselves nothing but a giant Microsoft sock puppet.

If you need a reason not to look this is what they state right after a false claim that MS is hosting 11 million new sites. All may not be as it seems, however, as the web server is still sending an X-Powered-By: Apache/2.4.9 (Win64) header. The web server is also reporting X-Powered-By: ARR/2.5, indicating the use of IIS's load-balancing features. It is likely that Apache Lounge is powered by multiple Apache instances which are hidden behind a Microsoft IIS load balancer. So they don't even trust their numbers, but fuck it.. they can turn a quick buck trying to turn you into a sucker.

Re:Apache is dying... (1)

mysidia (191772) | about 7 months ago | (#46964981)

I bet >40% the IIS sites are a combination of: Azure trials by spammers and phishers using custom-generated domains [fraudalert.co.za] (

Microsoft Azure Web Sites also offers fraudsters the ability to use an SSL certificate. All subdomains of azurewebsites.net are automatically accessible via HTTPS using a *.azurewebsites.net SSL certificate.

...

SSL certificate is irrevocable!

The Baseline Requirements that forms part of Mozilla’s CA policy suggests that the SSL certificate must be revoked within 24 hours: “The CA SHALL revoke a Certificate within 24 hours if one or more of the following occurs: [..] [t]he CA is made aware that a Wildcard Certificate has been used to authenticate a fraudulently misleading subordinate Fully-Qualified Domain Name”. However, Microsoft itself issued the SSL certificate from its sub-CA of Verizon Business and has chosen not to revoke it. Moreover, the SSL certificate does not include an OCSP responder URL and is not served with a stapled response (which is also in violation of the Baseline Requirements) and consequently the SSL certificate is irrevocable in some major browsers, particularly Firefox.


Free email addresses!

Free anonymising proxy!

), and

  • * Default front pages; web server with IIS installed for no good reason
  • * Default front page; IIS installed to serve Outlook Web Access, or proprietary.
  • * Default fornt page; IIS installed to serve proprietary intranet application.... some security-clueless idiot in management directed the firewall admin to open up the server to the world, so they could connect to the ERP / enterprise accounting system while on business trips or at home.

Re:Apache is dying... (1)

mysidia (191772) | about 6 months ago | (#46968137)

Also, what are the odds that the majority of the new sites are on parked domains?

I don't know... but Sedo has ~16 million parked domains, and last I checked them, and competing parking providers ran Apache.

My suspicion is that Netcraft doesn't count them.

My suspicion is that Netcraft is counting server IP addresses.

And because Windows is less efficient than Linux, you need more servers in your DNS-loadbalanced cluster for a like workload, to scale to the same traffic levels Apache can handle.

So what if they're IIS servers.... it doesn't mean it's more popular or that it's the better technology, which seems to be the implied significance of the numbers.

I think the 'number of Active websites' by server type is a much more interesting metric.

squatting (3, Insightful)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | about 7 months ago | (#46959819)

How many of those sites are actual web servers and how many of those web servers are in a cluster serving a single site?

Re:squatting (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46959905)

Most. The chart after the one this paid for M$ cheering post points to is a measure of "active" websites. Funny, M$ is 11% of that, and Apache is 52%. Yup, Apache is going to die any day now... any day.

Re:squatting (5, Informative)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about 7 months ago | (#46959973)

This happens so often. Some big web hosting firm (GoDaddy or whoever) switches from Linux to Microsoft, or vice versa. That causes millions of parked domains to switch OS. And, to be fair, Netcraft often points this out in the comments.

With web sites that are actually active - as noted by a previous commenter - Apache's lead is huge. It always has been. And, in truth, the biggest "danger" to Apache is probably Nginx (another free, usually Linux-based web server) rather than IIS.

Re:squatting (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960405)

The biggest threat to Apache is Apache. HTTPD 2.4 removed support for a number of operating systems and is tuned only for Linux. They've gone to the dark side and it's going to hurt them.

Combine that with nginx, varnish and lighttpd and there are several real choices in the *NIX world. There is no need to go Apache anymore. This will make them look bad for some time to come as people try out alternatives. I'm evaluating switching to nginx now. The configuration is much different, but in the end it should make things much better.

Re:squatting (4, Informative)

LordThyGod (1465887) | about 7 months ago | (#46960607)

The biggest threat to Apache is Apache. HTTPD 2.4 removed support for a number of operating systems and is tuned only for Linux. They've gone to the dark side and it's going to hurt them.

Combine that with nginx, varnish and lighttpd and there are several real choices in the *NIX world. There is no need to go Apache anymore. This will make them look bad for some time to come as people try out alternatives. I'm evaluating switching to nginx now. The configuration is much different, but in the end it should make things much better.

What are the "number of OS's"? It clearly supports windows versions > windows 2000 (which my guess is better than the most recent release of IIS). I feel pretty sure the BSD guys would find a way to get supported. So what else, Solaris? Whoops, no, looks like people are doing that somewhere. BeOS? Android? If Apache looses ground, its primarily its reputation for memory and performance related issues.

Re:squatting (1)

armanox (826486) | about 7 months ago | (#46962275)

I'd also be interested in knowing what they dropped. I can give it a test run on IRIX to see if it still builds - I know 2.2 does.

just set noatime. That's 90% of nginx (1)

raymorris (2726007) | about 7 months ago | (#46961279)

Most of the "benefit" of Nginx is that it forces noatime, whether you like it or not. Noatime can make a big difference in performance, but just set noatime in /etc/fstab and you'll get the same performance from Apache, without the Nginx bugs, and Apache will ACTUALLY behave as it's documentation says it does.

The other thing that makes a difference, largely in RAM usage, is that some distributions ship a default Apache config with almost every possible module enabled. Comment out mod_speling, mod_userdir, mod_webdav etc for better performance and reduced memory usage.

Re:just set noatime. That's 90% of nginx (1)

cheater512 (783349) | about 7 months ago | (#46965119)

People still have atime enabled on production servers? Wow.

Re:squatting (5, Interesting)

javilon (99157) | about 7 months ago | (#46960743)

In fact, the actual highlight should be:

In October 2013 both Ngix and Google passed struggling Microsoft in active web server market share. Netcraft confirms.

That tells a lot more. Seen from that point of view there are three types of web servers using IIS:
Parked domains,
Default Windows server installations,
Azure

Very damming for Microsoft, I think.

Re:squatting (1)

keneng (1211114) | about 7 months ago | (#46963901)

google app engine with golang is very cool.
Another golang infrastructure called beego seems to becoming popular also.
http://beego.me/ [beego.me]

For what it's worth, I just installed Debian GNU/Linux with apache/golang/mongodb for a business today.
It was replacing a Windows box.

Re:squatting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960913)

I gave up on apache. Nginx is far superior as long as you don't need old-school CGI. FCGI, WSGI or static content? Nginx is hands down better. It's also much better at reverse proxying those crazy app servers you java kids love to use.

Re:squatting (1)

Richy_T (111409) | about 7 months ago | (#46961677)

I'll have to look into that. We've been having an issue with an apache reverse proxy we've been using internally locking up and just spinning. Haven't been able to find any cause or explanation

Re:squatting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960015)

If you look at the other graphs ("Market share of active sites" and "Market share of the top million busiest sites") the picture is quite different, with only Nginx showing growth

Re:squatting (5, Informative)

Alioth (221270) | about 7 months ago | (#46960167)

Most of them. The headline is very misleading. The next sentence in TFA is:

"Apache's position is much stronger when considering only Active Sites — it retains an absolute majority of 52.3%, and second place is held by nginx (14.4%), rather than Microsoft (11.3%). By excluding much of the automatically-generated content present on the internet, the Active Sites metric better reflects web server market share amongst human-maintained web sites."

In other words, most of IIS's "catchup" is really just parked domains and the like. In reality, I bet Apache is nearer 60% because most of the "nginx sites" will be reverse proxies in front of an Apache server. We have four domains that are hosted by Apache for example, but Netcraft thinks they are nginx because of the reverse proxy.

Re:squatting (1)

Dcnjoe60 (682885) | about 7 months ago | (#46961059)

Yes, but how many people would have clicked on the link if the title was actually representative of the findings?

Re:squatting (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960707)

indeed, because many times in the past these jumps in IIS market share were due to Microsoft signing deals( probably paying out $$$ ) to get companies to use IIS for all new parked web sites customers purchase. Oh the games Microsoft has played over the many years they have been around.

Netcraft Cofirms! (4, Funny)

snarfies (115214) | about 7 months ago | (#46959827)

It is now official. Netcraft has confirmed: Apache is dying

One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered Apache community when IDC confirmed that Apache market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that Apache has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. Apache is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.

You don't need to be the Amazing Kreskin to predict Apache's future. The hand writing is on the wall: Apache faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for Apache because Apache is dying. Things are looking very bad for Apache. As many of us are already aware, Apache continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.

Re:Netcraft Cofirms! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960031)

I'd like a list of tech companies that this hasn't been turfed on -- so I can avoid them.

Re:Netcraft Cofirms! (1)

fak3r (917687) | about 7 months ago | (#46964455)

A classic! Thanks for adapting it and keeping it alive.

Nginx (5, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46959831)

Probably because a lot of us jumped ship from Apache to Nginx. I got tired of my server eating up all the CPU for what little my sites were doing. Moved to Nginx and freed up 75%, and I wasn't doing anything special server-side to account for that.

Re:Nginx (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46959861)

Nginx is now my default. Apache is too messy.

Re:Nginx (2)

Thornburg (264444) | about 7 months ago | (#46959881)

Probably because a lot of us jumped ship from Apache to Nginx. I got tired of my server eating up all the CPU for what little my sites were doing. Moved to Nginx and freed up 75%, and I wasn't doing anything special server-side to account for that.

Exactly. It's not really Microsoft that's gaining (although they are, a little), nor really Apache that's losing (although they are, a lot).

It's that nginx is taking over Apache's place as the best free webserver.

Re:Nginx (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46959921)

Yeah, Microsoft is gaining a little, eh? A little bit like 33.04%? While nginx gained 15.25%?
But, hey, open source, hooray!!!
Fanboys...

Re:Nginx (1)

stewsters (1406737) | about 7 months ago | (#46959997)

Most of which are parked pages. Of active webpages, Microsoft has 11%, and Apache is 52%. Most likely some web hosting company uses it to park domains, but the people using the website set up Apache/nginx when they want to get some work done.

I am not sure why they would do that (any webserver can host a static webpage without many hits), perhaps they get something for it.

Re:Nginx (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960077)

Fanboys indeed...

The numbers show that GoDaddy continues to be a market leader in parked and phishing domains hosted locally on IIS -- as far as actual servers running actual content, IIS barely counts, while Apache and Nginx make up ~80% of the servers out there.

This is right out of the same report, so cherry picking your results is kind of silly.

Re:Nginx (1)

cjjjer (530715) | about 7 months ago | (#46963153)

Funny most of the phishing links I tend to investigate are actually PHP running under Apache. You think that phishers are going to pay extra for MS hosting when Linux hosting is far less and for the most part scriptable?

Re:Nginx (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46959941)

I agree about the move from Apache to Nginx. I once asked what were the merits of switching, and I got a common, "Apache creates a process per session versus Nginx, which runs more concurrently."

Re:Nginx (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960065)

yep. nginx is the node.js of webservers. it uses a lot less cpu too

Re:Nginx (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960357)

"Apache creates a process per session versus Nginx, which runs more concurrently."

In what world does that still happen? 2001?

Re:Nginx (1)

Richy_T (111409) | about 7 months ago | (#46961803)

Why does there have to be a best? Does a carpenter have a "best" tool or pick the most appropriate one for the job?

Re:This article is a load of PR bullsh*t (5, Interesting)

miknix (1047580) | about 7 months ago | (#46959987)

Please mod parent up.

What a load of PR bullshit this article is. If people actually care reading the netcraft results [1], you will see that in ACTIVE WEBSITES the Microsoft webserver is falling below 12% during the last two years, while Apache has been well over 50%, despite all other webservers gaining place (Nginx for example).

[1] http://news.netcraft.com/archi... [netcraft.com]

Re:This article is a load of PR bullsh*t (1)

miknix (1047580) | about 7 months ago | (#46960035)

From TFA [1]:

Apache's position is much stronger when considering only Active Sites — it retains an absolute majority of 52.3%, and second place is held by nginx (14.4%), rather than Microsoft (11.3%). By excluding much of the automatically-generated content present on the internet, the Active Sites metric better reflects web server market share amongst human-maintained web sites. (emphasis by me)

[1] http://news.netcraft.com/archi... [netcraft.com]

Parked domains (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46959853)

Haven't we covered this before? And wasn't the gain mostly attributed to "parked domains", rather than actual, working web sites?

Re:Parked domains (0, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960155)

Right. Because you can't park a site with an Apache server. Thanks for reminding me.

I guess I need to move my site to a MS server because parking in Apacheland isn't allowed.

Re:Parked domains (1)

thunderbird32 (1138071) | about 7 months ago | (#46960511)

The reason IIRC, was that a few of the bigger hosting companies (GoDaddy for one), use IIS for hosted sites. Since quite a few of these are parked pages, it inflates IIS's numbers.

Re:Parked domains (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960589)

Are you REALLY trying to imply that parked non-sites should count as much as active sites? I'd like to hear the rationale on this one (for a laugh, that is).

Re:Parked domains (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46961829)

Wow. Your panties were in such a bunch that you didn't even see the joke there? Just wow.
 
I'm all for a little ribbing between camps in the name of good fun but people like you are a real buzzkill.

Used or parked sites? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46959883)

MS has gained significant steps towards this direction when some service providers changed their parked domain list to use IIS instead of Apache for some reason. I really don't count these sites as very important personally and they are mainly used for marketing purposes anyway.

Re:Used or parked sites? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960289)

And might that reason be a large exchange of cash?

OTOH (1)

marcello_dl (667940) | about 7 months ago | (#46959895)

Microsoft is behind apache AND nginx for the top million busiest sites, nginx appearing to gain more than apache lost.

Re:OTOH (5, Insightful)

Alioth (221270) | about 7 months ago | (#46960203)

Although a popular use of nginx is as a reverse proxy. We don't have any nginx hosted websites here, but Netcraft thinks they are all nginx because they only get to find out what the reverse proxy is running. In reality the actual webservers themselves are mostly Apache (with a couple of specialist things, like an embedded Jetty instance). But to anyone outside it looks like nginx.

Re:OTOH (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46961129)

Although a popular use of nginx is as a reverse proxy. We don't have any nginx hosted websites here, but Netcraft thinks they are all nginx because they only get to find out what the reverse proxy is running. In reality the actual webservers themselves are mostly Apache (with a couple of specialist things, like an embedded Jetty instance). But to anyone outside it looks like nginx.

Since you're pointing that out, Apache is popular as a reverse proxy for IIS servers as well.

Parked domains... (2)

QuietLagoon (813062) | about 7 months ago | (#46959899)

Didn't Microsoft pay someone (godaddy?) to get a very significant number of parked domains moved to Microsoft's web server software in the past year or so?

Re:Parked domains... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960193)

No. You're thinking of Apache - always the leaders in sharp business practice.

Re:Parked domains... (2)

Bacon Bits (926911) | about 7 months ago | (#46960215)

I never heard MS paid anyone. I've always heard IIS is very easy to manage automated parked domains with, so many domain registrars use it. Scripting out a parked domain is essentially trivial with AppCmd.exe. You can create the virtual site, park the domain, and create a rewrite rule very easily.

Re:Parked domains... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960585)

The same is true for apache.

uhh what you sure ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46959917)

"All may not be as it seems, however, as the web server is still sending an X-Powered-By: Apache/2.4.9 (Win64) header. The web server is also reporting X-Powered-By: ARR/2.5, indicating the use of IIS's load-balancing features. It is likely that Apache Lounge is powered by multiple Apache instances which are hidden behind a Microsoft IIS load balancer."

I'm pretty sure its a misconfig on their part. If not...its.. I don't know what to say *facepalm"

What's really happening (3, Informative)

whoever57 (658626) | about 7 months ago | (#46959919)

Microsoft is closing the gap, based on what are mostly static, content-free pages. When only active sites are considered, Microsoft is third, behind Apache and nginx. Also, Microsoft's share of the million busiest sites has been in an almost linear decline for years and is also third behind Apache and nginx

Parked domains (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46959923)

100 billion parked domains don't count. Look at the sites that actually have traffic.

These numbers would be much, much more accurate if they just ignored everything hosted by GoDaddy.

what about NGinx and Node applications? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46959967)

I think it's more likely that Apache is losing market share to faster non-blocking software like nginx than the hideous pile of excrement known as IIS gaining any traction over it.
IIS is a cold pile of dried crap...

no its the ADCs you idiots (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46959971)

This as usual is all wrong from slashdot

There are more ADCs (application delivery controllers), or for the less informed - loadbalancers with L7 smarts. When the loadbalancer works at L7 the big 2 (f5 and netscaler) both look like a microsoft server. They are a full reverse proxy that speak their own HTTP . They arn't a microsoft server and usually have lunix behind them. Lets list a few sites with F5 or netscaler sitting in front... facebook.com, apple.com, amazon.com should i go on?

The tide (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46959989)

The fact is that, while still not complete garbage, the quality of open source is slowly declining.

Another fact is that, while still not completely perfect, the quality of Microsoft software is rapidly increasing.

Re:The tide (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960227)

Have some more Kool-Aid.

Re:The tide (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960797)

Shut up. Open source is much better.

Numbers do not reflect quality (3, Interesting)

ackthpt (218170) | about 7 months ago | (#46959993)

I once lived in the heart of the US auto industry. Anonymous tin-box Chevy and Ford cars ruled the roads by shear numbers. Not many people remember these high volume cars, the Vega, Maverick, Nova, Fairlane, Granada, Chevette. And the Pinto is only well remembered due to an engineering oversight which made it a mobile crematorium.

So Microsoft has higher numbers, yeah? So who is using these things? Quick and dirty websites or real e-commerce, media, commercial/industrial?

Numbers alone aren't very meaningful.

We demand, lies, damned lies and statistics

Re:Numbers do not reflect quality (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960141)

Nor are numbers correlated with some other information.

Ah, reality, so subject to cognition.

Re:Numbers do not reflect quality (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960165)

This is nonsense. Wikipedia, Google and Github are just some of the prestigious websites running on Microsoft.

Re:Numbers do not reflect quality (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960363)

This is nonsense. Wikipedia, Google and Github are just some of the prestigious websites running on Microsoft in some parallel universe, perhaps even the one in which Mr Spock sports a beard.

TFTFY.

Re:Numbers do not reflect quality (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960409)

This is nonsense. Wikipedia, Google and Github are just some of the prestigious websites running on Microsoft.

Wikipedia runs on Ubuntu, therefore is not running on IIS.

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Ubuntu_migration_FAQ

http://www.ubuntu.com/products/casestudies/wikimedia

Re:Numbers do not reflect quality (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46961359)

Given what a mess security is in the open source world with Heartbleed and numerous Apache vulnerabilities, maybe people who need actual security are moving to IIS.

OMG. Its true! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960019)

FreeBSD is finally .. wait, what?

Probably on desktops (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960049)

I supsect that it's being used as a client/service/sever thing on desktops for things like routers etc or other network management tools and firewalls. Or database/business applications or internally developed quick apps for corporations ... like a custom database for storing employee information etc...

not that these aren't serious applicaitons, but i don't think it's really bitten into the www. .com niche yet

TLDR... this is probably mostly intranet sites

not for the reason you think. (5, Informative)

nimbius (983462) | about 7 months ago | (#46960123)

Microsoft has been growing steadily against apache for a few reasons that are important to keep into perspective:
1. Park Webs: these are domain parking spaces that exist to sell targeted advertising in a users domain name until they change the DNS for the domain or add content in a shared/dedicated hosting environment. GoDaddy parkweb is exclusively Microsoft IIS for example as are many others as Parkwebs are static pages that dont need to be policed for vulnerability as, say, wordpress lamp stacks might. Its no skin off registrars and hosting providers backs to convert their parkwebs to IIS and usually microsoft will license it and do it for free or in GoDaddys case, pay them to switch to Microsoft IIS.
2.competitors: Nginx for example approaches near 20% marketshare. Its faster in some cases than apache and for many admins, easier to maintain.

the marketshare for active sites, not just all sites, is what is important (netcraft realized what microsoft was doing early on and should be commended for their countermeasure.) and when we consider that metric, Apache is still nearly 5 times more prevalent than IIS. Even Nginx beats out IIS in both the active and top busiest sites surveyed so when we take that into account, Microsoft is closing in on Apaches lead in much the same way a Windstar minivan closes in on a Ducati.

Re:not for the reason you think. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960317)

sources? I expect Netcraft would have this data already included in their numbers.

Re:not for the reason you think. (1)

Tom (822) | about 7 months ago | (#46962601)

1. Park Webs:

For at least 5, more likely 10 years, this has been the major source of "marketshare" for the sorry excuse of a webserver that IIS is.

Tom = multiple /. sockpuppet using scum (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46963457)

Let's let TOM speak shall we:

"I'm having great conversations on this site with one of my alias accounts" - by Tom (822) on Monday April 07, 2014 @02:29PM (#46686259) Homepage

FROM -> http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org]

APK

P.S.=> Tom *tried* to libel me & failed after I destroyed him in a technical debate on hosts files... result?

Tom ended up "eating his words" here http://slashdot.org/comments.p... [slashdot.org] spiced with "the bitter taste of SELF-defeat" + HIS FOOT IN HIS MOUTH

... apk

This is meaningless (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960209)

All Netcraft can do is determine the type of the reverse proxy server fronting for the site. It has no idea what the backend servers are running and never did.
There are a lot more back-end servers than front end.

Also, Netcraft can't determine if the server is doing virtual hosting. If that is the case, one server could look like thousands.

Seriously. The poster should stop bothering with this bullshit. This kind of survey is meaningless.

Data Centers (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960219)

Haven't read the article yet, but I'm guessing that M$'s increase is due to building server farms & data centers. The Apache foundation doesn't do that. If that's the reason for M$'s increase, then Apache's absolutely fine. Ok, now I'm off to read.... hopefully the article answers this point.

WMD on credit corepirate nazi super pac exposed (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960255)

aka facism http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nazi+zion+facism

Azure? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960303)

Perhaps this shows Microsoft's strategy with Azure is working.

Apache got complacent (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960485)

Apache is a slow resource hog. Maybe if you need some special functionality, it's easier to do it by installing libapache2-mod-whatever, but most administrators with a typical use case and any kind of clue moved to Nginx ages ago and see no reason whatsoever to switch back. Even with the special cases, Apache sometimes doesn't help because the devs are principled faggots who are unwilling to cater to market needs, e.g. providing optional support for RPC over HTTP - something that every company with their own Exchange server would want.

So many sources (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46960519)

I'm curious as to how these places get their stats. I was just looking at w3techs.com and saw where they reported that for the month of May both Apache and IIS were down .1%, and Nginx was up .3%. (Those change percentages were given in the RSS feed). Also, it shows Apache at 60.6% of the total market, and IIS at only 14%.

http://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/web_server/all

Do an honest comparison (2)

ThatsNotPudding (1045640) | about 7 months ago | (#46960683)

Which one probably has more NSA backdoors?

Lies, damned lies, and statistics... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46961421)

If you look at the more interesting numbers you'd see that, far from increasing, Microsoft's share of the most heavily visited sites has actually gone down. While Apache's share has decreased as well, it's still over 50%, and the big winner in increasing share is nginx, not IIS or Azure.

Many Apache server headers identify as IIS/... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46961431)

Many Apache server headers identify as IIS/... in order to misguide potential hackers. This has been going on for years. How many of those are not IIS servers???

this is why (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46962037)

I've mostly stopped coming to /.
It's not news for nerds, it's a skewed sensationalist headline aggregator.

But are these SharePoint sites? (1)

d0n0v6n (2899117) | about 7 months ago | (#46962241)

Sorry, I cannot be bothered to RTFA. Just some work humor because we use the shit out of SharePoint, and it is the biggest POS I have ever seen.

Re:But are these SharePoint sites? (1)

fak3r (917687) | about 7 months ago | (#46964489)

New gig, all the docs are in SharePoint, have been for 5 years, and it's impossible to find anything, but if you do it's outdated. No bother, I'm making up new standards and procedure, and it's all written up in Markdown and getting checked into git/gitlab for easy viewing/editing by anyone.

Everybody laughs, slaves don't count (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46963877)

Of course nginx has been gaining a bit on apache, as is well know in all the circles...ecpet the micropenis alves, sorry I forgot....muahahahaha

Re:Everybody laughs, slaves don't count (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46963889)

Of course I meant miiicropeeeenis slaves, sorry for the typooo (yes I'm drunk) !!!

Only reason Apache did well @ all (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 7 months ago | (#46966309)

Is it was GIVEN AWAY FREE vs. a commercially sold product. It's very obvious that that advantage isn't enough from this article...

APK

P.S.=> It makes me "LOL" when I see "Open SORES" fools spouting "but our stuff is used more" well, yea: It doesn't cost anything is why, & that is WHY, only.... apk

Only reason Apache did well @ all? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#46979061)

Is it was GIVEN AWAY FREE vs. a commercially sold product. It's very obvious that that advantage isn't enough from this article...

* You can bogusly downmod this & I'll just post it again (since you're fit to *try* to vainly & effetely "hide" truth here like you tried to last time, stooges -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] since THAT is the "best the Open SORES morons got" obviously...)

APK

P.S.=> It makes me "LOL" when I see "Open SORES" fools spouting "but our stuff is used more" well, yea: It doesn't cost anything is why, & that is WHY, only.... apk

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