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Adobe Creative Cloud Is Back

timothy posted about 3 months ago | from the won't-happen-again dept.

Bug 74

As reported by TheNextWeb, the extended outage of the authentication mechanism of Adobe's Creative Cloud service has been resolved. From the story: 'According to a series of tweets: 'Adobe ID issue is resolved. We are bringing services back online. We will share more details once we confirm everything is working.' Adobe said further, 'We have restored Adobe login services and all services are now online. We will be sharing a complete update on the outage soon.' and 'We know we let you down. We apologize and are working to ensure it doesn't happen again."' A good time to revisit this prediction from last year about how going to an all-cloud, all-subscription model might hurt customers.

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...and there was much rejoicing. (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018149)

yay

Only Creative Cloud? (4, Insightful)

MindStalker (22827) | about 3 months ago | (#47018167)

So what happens when they no longer sell their products and you have no choice but to have the Creative Cloud. Should the entire design industry shut down when Adobe has an issue?

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018217)

This is going to open the doors to other company's to take the top spot from Adobe.

Offer a similar product, charge 1/4 what they charged for the full CS 6 suite, and don't link it to any cloud authentication. Just a simple serial # system.

Will people pirate it? Sure, there will always be pirating, no way around it. But I bet you enough people will pay for a legitimate copy that you will still turn a huge profit.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018615)

Shhh. Real world logic isn't welcome.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (2)

WillAdams (45638) | about 3 months ago | (#47018889)

The problem is, Adobe has bought up so much of the industry that they have a huge warchest of patents.

They also aren't terribly nice about sharing information to competitors --- look at how poorly FreeHand handled .pdfs for one example --- the devs complained that Adobe was _not_ forthcoming about aspects of the format which were needed to improve it.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47023071)

Fun fact, US software patents aren't applicable everywhere - but internet web applications are accessible from everywhere, one way or another.

Have fun suing someone in say, NZ or parts of the EU where your US software patents mean literally nothing.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1)

WillAdams (45638) | about 3 months ago | (#47039995)

Have fun monetizing your project w/o being able to bill U.S. clients.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1)

NotInHere (3654617) | about 3 months ago | (#47018269)

No, you are responsible for your own cloud. Every designer has to have a diesel-driven cloud generator in the basement and fire it on every time there is a cloud outage. Its just like with energy in developing countries. Welcome to the third world, designers!

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1)

stewsters (1406737) | about 3 months ago | (#47018277)

sudo apt-get install gimp

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018463)

Yes, because Gimp is totally an acceptable replacement for someone using Creative Cloud professionally.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1)

interkin3tic (1469267) | about 3 months ago | (#47018701)

I'd guess it is, especially when "using Creative Cloud professionally" means "twiddling your thumbs waiting for Creative Cloud to start working again" and using GIMP means "double clicking GIMP and it works as long as your computer has power and a monitor."

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1)

Ralph Spoilsport (673134) | about 3 months ago | (#47018575)

sudo apt-get install gimp

Fail. Gimp just doesn't cut it. It's very good, but it's not Photoshop. And Photoshop is the 900 lb gorilla in Adobeland.

Now that Apple blew its own dick off by ruining Final Cut Pro, Adobe is in the cat-bird seat. Unfortunately a cloud based Premiere and AfterEffects is bullshit. So sad...

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1)

jedidiah (1196) | about 3 months ago | (#47019577)

> Fail. Gimp just doesn't cut it.

Fine. Continue enjoying your outtages. This is exactly what you get for brand fixated mentality. Gimp is but one example. It's the tip of the iceberg. The fanboys always should down anything that isn't Brand X. It doesn't matter what the license is.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47020201)

Gimp is pretty terrible. Brand mentality doesn't come into play at all, Photoshop is straight up better software. I fucking hate Adobe.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47021039)

Photoshop is too hard to use. All the menus are in the wrong order and I cant find anything.

I hear people are working on a mod to make the menus like Gimp though, which should make it easier.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 3 months ago | (#47020243)

No, it's more like Photoshop CS2 was given away (accidentally?) by Adobe some time ago, the downloads and regkeys might even still be up for all I know. They made them available publicly. Even photoshop CS2 beats the living shit out of the gimp for actual usability. Granted, there's no context-aware fill in photoshop that old, so that will send me back to the gimp to use the resynthesizer. I sure wish someone would port the resynthesizer to [ye olde] Photoshop.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47023561)

Or continue using $60 Paint Shop Pro, which is still much better than Gimp.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1)

Jeff Flanagan (2981883) | about 3 months ago | (#47018583)

Windows says that's an invalid command. ;>

More seriously, pointing people to much less capable software is not going to help them do their jobs. If Adobe moving to a subscription model actually causes ongoing hardship, it'll open the way for a real competitor.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018589)

Yes, and I suppose a professional race car driver could just use his daughter's tricycle in a pinch, too.

Re: Only Creative Cloud? (1)

tangent (3677) | about 3 months ago | (#47018635)

Gimp is only comparable to Photoshop if you don't know the extent of Photoshop's capabilities or wouldn't push it to its limits if you did. Gimp is closer in capability to Photoshop Elements or Pixelmator.

Re: Only Creative Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018855)

Not only that, GIMP is VERY SLOW. Slow loading, slow resizing images, slow apply a filter, slow using the undo command. There is nothing it does that's fast. Oh, did I mention the huge amount of RAM it uses? Jesus fucking Christ.

Re: Only Creative Cloud? (2)

walshy007 (906710) | about 3 months ago | (#47019427)

I don't think that many people who use photoshop require the entirety of it's functionality.

It's like microsoft word vs openoffice, there are some fairly commonly required features that are catered for that handle the overwhelming majority of the population, but each person has their own little outlier function that only word handles.

gimp is becoming viable for more types of work by the day, it may not ever do everything photoshop does, but it doesn't have to. All it has to do is enough to "get the job done" for a decent subset of people.

Re: Gimp vs Photoshop: no comparison (2)

tangent (3677) | about 3 months ago | (#47019479)

You're arguing my position. If your needs are relatively simple, you can use Gimp, Elements, or Pixelmator roughly interchangeably. If you need to do anything tricky, you'll probably run into a wall with all three.

Re: Only Creative Cloud? (1)

Jack Griffin (3459907) | about 3 months ago | (#47024125)

The problem with that logic is that those people, like me, over time gradually learn more and more features, and ask others for tips and help, and look online for support etc. And when they do, all the pros are using Photoshop. So there's more to it than just features v features, all that soft stuff like incumbency and existing user base are real advantages that like insurance, most people are willing to pay for (even if your insurance company is an evil empire that never pays any claims).

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018873)

gimp'd computers for all!

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1)

bill_mcgonigle (4333) | about 3 months ago | (#47018599)

Should the entire design industry shut down when Adobe has an issue?

Sure, that's a predictable consequence of any monoculture - the agile will survive. Or does somebody actually expect Adobe to be around in 100 years?

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (5, Informative)

Rinikusu (28164) | about 3 months ago | (#47018613)

Well, I'm a film guy, not a photog, so my options are: Avid (industry standard), or switch to a mac and use FCP, not to mention work with prosumer software such as Vegas. Editing is editing and there's not a whole lot of differences between the suites that don't have workarounds, etc. I particularly enjoy the Premiere->After Effects workflow, and while Audition is no ProTools, it's good enough for my purposes. The most exciting thing for me lately is reading that Speedgrade CC 7.1 has a better roundtrip workflow, but I haven't tested that out yet.

Anyway, "creative cloud" is to "cloud" as "javascript" is to "java". Unless you're using Adobe's cloud storage program. But why the fuck would you do that? I generated over 250gb in footage (non-raw) for a 6 minute short recently.. How long would that take to upload to cloud storage and how long would it take to pull it back down? No thanks, I've got local storage and I like it that way.. maybe if we ever get ubiquitous fiber connections and $10/month/terabyte cloud storage options I might consider using it for archival, but yeah, no thanks... I did not even know Adobe's shit was down until I read about it here. That's how much it affected me.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 3 months ago | (#47020223)

Anyway, "creative cloud" is to "cloud" as "javascript" is to "java". Unless you're using Adobe's cloud storage program. But why the fuck would you do that?

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Doesn't it have sharing? If so, it would be an effective way to deliver samples to clients, or for collaborative work on images (though as you point out later, not video.)

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018619)

we unfortunately stop using Adobe.

phuck em

i can bust out adobe 4.0 and do just about anything i need to do now. its all fluff to make the software more usable for newbs imo

and phuck newbs too

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1)

helix2301 (1105613) | about 3 months ago | (#47018733)

That's why the cloud is not always the best option for people despite what all these company's are pushing.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1)

MindStalker (22827) | about 3 months ago | (#47019971)

I decided to look into it a little bit more.
https://forums.adobe.com/messa... [adobe.com]
Apparently the creative cloud is offline applications that while they use online functions they do work offline for 30 days of non conductivity.

Still stupid.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (1)

Timothy Hartman (2905293) | about 3 months ago | (#47018863)

They did that very thing on the day that it crashed actually.

Only Creative Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018935)

Unfortunately it's already like this - "where are my flyers!" - "Oh it's Adobe's fault, whatever you're not getting my business again."

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47019159)

Yep!

And maybe someone will actually create a competing product.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47020165)

There is plenty of options actually:
For Photoshop, Illustrator, indesign: CorelDraw Graphic Suite X7 is one option (they have been talking of bringing it back to the mac not long ago, which is one of the reason people left it in the first place), Serif Page Plus is a valid replacement for 99% of Indesign Users (i did actually test it not long ago and was VERY impressed. You got ACD Canva for Illustrator (previously Deneba Canva, will ring some memories for some), Sketch seems a good option too for an Illustrator replacement.
Lightworks is a top notch Video editor (i m pretty sure it can do everything that Premier can). Quark Express is still around and actually in heavy use in some countries (the world is not US centric). i m pretty sure if we look there is some other things lying around. I personnaly went back to Coreldraw when X7 came around and we have seen plenty of people in my situation, also the fact is that in some industries it is actually a defacto standard (mostly signage, embroidery, screenprinting).
To be honest most people use less than 50% of the capacities of these softwares.

As for Gimp i m sorry to say, even if it is somewhat capable it suffer from a dreadful interface among other issues, same goes for Inkscape.

Re:Only Creative Cloud? (2)

ganjadude (952775) | about 3 months ago | (#47019485)

well in my case, im still just using CS6 - it has everything *I* need for what I do with it, I dont care about the online only model for tools that i NEED at any given time.

If I had a deadline and was unable to access my stuff, is adobe going to pay for it? I doubt it

B-but Curtis Peterson! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018235)

B-but Curtis Peterson [slashdot.org] told me that the cloud is the f-f-future!

And just like the McRib (1)

kruach aum (1934852) | about 3 months ago | (#47018281)

it only happens when pork prices are lowest.

Re:And just like the McRib (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018709)

[mcrib] it only happens when pork prices are lowest.

Wrong. FWIW, it happens when beef prices increase more than pork's, but pork is still higher than average at those points (generally)

Re:And just like the McRib (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47031977)

Are you suggesting there's pork in a McRib sandwich?

Creative Suite Six will be Adobe's XP (4, Insightful)

sandbagger (654585) | about 3 months ago | (#47018283)

Seriously.

The major advances in tools in Illustrator, Photoshop, Dreamweaver et cetera have flattened. I love the perspective drawing tools in Illustrator and some of the improved tools in Photoshop but really the major changes in CS have been in workflow, lifecycle and preflighting.

That latter stuff is great but largely a) is for technically advanced production users can talk to other technically advanced production users and b) locks you in to Adobe.

That stuff serves no other function for anyone else. People have figured that out and so to keep revenues up, Adobe switched to the cloud model. That's it. There's absolutely no benefit for most users to switch to the cloud model given that most companies skip two or three versions of Creative Suite. My prediction is that CS 6 will be around for a long, long time.

Re:Creative Suite Six will be Adobe's XP (1)

Greeninja (1936704) | about 3 months ago | (#47018339)

I completely agree. Photoshop is starting to lose its place as a tool for designing websites, a lot of newer tools are coming out for building more interactive prototypes so that the client can see functionality far earlier than what they used to, and some places are even doing hybrid design/dev where they just build the site rapidly as a simple HTML5/CSS/Js mockup. I'm not even sure I know of anyone using Dreamweaver anymore, despite so many job listings "requiring" knowledge of it. Everyone is using Sublime Text, PHP Storm, or some other IDE like Notepad++.

Re:Creative Suite Six will be Adobe's XP (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018707)

Personally I've never liked photoshop for web design. It's great for messing with photos but an after thought of crap for web design. Personally bring back macromedia fireworks. That was the best too for designing web sites hands down. Its dreamweaver integration was awesome and worked great. Photoshop totally blows for web site design.

Re:Creative Suite Six will be Adobe's XP (2)

Smerta (1855348) | about 3 months ago | (#47018581)

Totally agree. Still chugging away on my 7 year old copy of CS3, bought back when I qualified for the student discount. (Actually if I want to find CS6, I should probably start looking now. Just did some poking around, looks like slim pickings already. Even Fry's, which I normally avoid, is only selling Cloud now, sigh...)

Re:Creative Suite Six will be Adobe's XP (3, Interesting)

lurker412 (706164) | about 3 months ago | (#47018965)

For me personally, you're quite right, though I'm on CS5 and will stay there for the foreseeable future. I'm an amateur photographer and have no need to keep up with the latest and greatest effects for graphic artists. There are a lot of Adobe customers like me, and many of us preferred the old model, where we could pay to upgrade when the new features seemed worth it. The new model makes sense for companies and design pros who (think they) always need the latest. They probably will save money. I'm not interested in the lock-in the new model imposes.

There is a lot of misunderstanding about the "cloudiness" of CC. The recent outage didn't take all the subscribers down, at least as long as they are using local storage for their work. The software runs locally. It would actually be a step forward if, say, they came up with some killer algorithms that require super-computer power to run and gave subscribers access to those cycles in the cloud. But currently, the cloud is mainly used for license validation (periodically) and software updates.

Adobe is leaving money on the table by not accommodating the customers who used to go for every other or every third update. I expect that within a couple of years they will realize this and come up with some sort of hybrid subscription/perpetual license scheme.

Re:Creative Suite Six will be Adobe's XP (1)

Anonymous Brave Guy (457657) | about 3 months ago | (#47019715)

There is a lot of misunderstanding about the "cloudiness" of CC. The recent outage didn't take all the subscribers down, at least as long as they are using local storage for their work.

A lot of people have reported problems with using their locally installed applications at all, or with features like the Typekit integration even if the software would start. It seems to be a much wider problem than just the on-line storage and activation for new licences.

Re:Creative Suite Six will be Adobe's XP (1)

American AC in Paris (230456) | about 3 months ago | (#47019369)

Don't overlook Flash--the development tool, not the plugin environment. Flash CC now does a decent job of exporting timeline animations to HTML5 without the overhead of converting to video. It's quirky, and there's still a lot more they can do there, but I suspect Flash-the-authoring-environment will continue to be the 800-pound gorilla in the web animation department for some time to come.

What's becoming of this site? (4, Informative)

gaspyy (514539) | about 3 months ago | (#47018327)

While I agree in principle that "cloud"-based services are overrated for reasons we are all aware, the issue with Creative Cloud was a minor one.
I use Adobe software every day and I noticed the error just because I tried make a change in the subscription plan.

The apps run locally and the license is checked every 90 days. Yes, some people could not activate their licenses or they couldn't download an application. This is a DRM issue, like Microsoft's or EA licensing servers being down. This could have happened regardless of Creative Cloud.

The only cloud services are their Typekit and Edgefont font distribution and Behance portfolios.

So let's make this clear: Creative Cloud is a fancy way of saying "rented software". Compared to the traditional model, it may cost more or less, depending on the upgrading habits (personally I used to always upgrade and use the newest version, other users upgrade to every other version)

However... (2)

Junta (36770) | about 3 months ago | (#47018505)

Some sites such as the daily mail missed publication because of the outage, so it obviously wasn't minor to everyone.

This could have happened regardless of Creative Cloud.

Of course I don't think people would be very excited about any such DRM scheme. In the professional environment, software vendors take particular care to enable privately hosted license management servers *precisely* because of this risk. EA is a steaming pile in general, so that's not setting the bar high. MS has KMS servers for enterprises to deploy and even failing that, their activation is fairly forgiving in letting you use the software at least for a while without successful activation.

Compared to the traditional model, it may cost more or less

The problem from what I hear in this case is that Adobe is not delivering a lot of compelling new features. Hence the push by them to get you into renting the software, because perpetually licensed photoshop is less and less likely to drive upgrade revenue. Same thing with Office365, at some point these applications are 'finished' for 99% of the market and the vendor finds themselves in a tricky spot of having no where to go.

Re:However... (1)

Jeff Flanagan (2981883) | about 3 months ago | (#47018661)

>Some sites such as the daily mail missed publication because of the outage, so it obviously wasn't minor to everyone.

Isn't the Daily Fail missing publication a huge win for anyone who cares about honesty? Are you asserting that it wasn't minor for right-wing liars, and we should somehow be upset that the absurd propaganda didn't get out to the rubes on-time?

Re:However... (1)

Junta (36770) | about 3 months ago | (#47019457)

I think it being the Daily Mail is secondary to the issue that it could have been *any* client of the cloud based offerings to be afflicted You can be completely dismissive of the Daily Mail but still appreciate that the problem could have hit a more valuable publication. Daily Mail I just new about because a story about their woes popped up in my reader.

Re:However... (1)

ganjadude (952775) | about 3 months ago | (#47019593)

this has nothing to do with politics and the parent made a good point. If someone is dependant on someone else, who pays when a deadline is missed? Should adobe be paying all the fees that people got charged for not delivering ontime? Should adobe be paying for those who mayhave lost their jobs due to adobes outage?

Re:However... (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 3 months ago | (#47020265)

and the corollary point, if adobe isn't going to pay those fees (which they aren't) then can people in fact afford to depend on adobe software? for anyone who has close deadlines, the answer will become no, if it isn't already

Re:However... (1)

ganjadude (952775) | about 3 months ago | (#47024759)

pretty much this, this is why I stuck with CS6, I dont have deadlines per se, but i dont want to risk it if i get a chance

^ This (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018969)

When I first saw they were moving to subscriptions similar to Microsoft for office I almost quit working with graphics. Microsoft doing it is one thing, at least it will work or they will work with me to find a solution, Adobe on the other hand may cuss you out on the support line if you accidentally offend them by asking out loud what they have against software development standards.

Squeezing Oranges rather than Growing More Oranges (1)

BoRegardless (721219) | about 3 months ago | (#47018475)

That is what happens when a company realizes they don't know what to do to get new creative apps out to a larger base of customers.\

Sad but true. Definite limitation of the Adobe Board of Directors.

The Cloud! The Cloud! (1)

smooth wombat (796938) | about 3 months ago | (#47018487)

I can only hope the mad rush to get everything to the cloud continues so as more and more of these incidents occur people will see the folly of letting someone else manage their data.

Further, if someone is able to get into a cloud service, it's not just your information that is compromised, it is the thousands of other people as well. Imagine a company having its internal documents about an upcoming product being made available to its competitors.*

* To those who might cheer this scenario, image if it's your company or the company you work for. Not so cheery when the product you were working on to get your paycheck won't get made because someone else has the same information, is it?

Re:The Cloud! The Cloud! (1)

Sable Drakon (831800) | about 3 months ago | (#47018785)

One would hope that any company relying on cloud services would also be smart enough to use either A) encrypted storage like Dropbox or B) pre-encrypt their sensitive and confidential information before putting it into the cloud. All said and done, more companies need to read Mitnick's 'Art of Deception' anyway.

Dear Adobe. (1, Funny)

Ralph Spoilsport (673134) | about 3 months ago | (#47018537)

FUCK YOU.

Re:Dear Adobe. (1)

some old guy (674482) | about 3 months ago | (#47019007)

HI! I'm Joe Beats.

Say, what chance does a deceased returning war veteran have for that good payin' job, more sugar, and that free Mule we've all been dreaming of?

Re:Dear Adobe. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47019371)

The chance of helping Porgie help Porcelain make up the bed.

It isn't about the customer. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018607)

The "Cloud" and SaaS are about the reoccurring revenue model. The trend exists for the bottom line, not customers. This motive is simple: mature software markets can no longer compel upgrades, so they simply switched the system: implement file incompatibility, poor import/export between versions, and switch from a lump sum contract to reoccurring revenue-based subscriptions. Most software is a complete and total sham now, benefiting their bottom line of corporations at the expense of the customer and cost-effectiveness.

No Problem Here (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47018705)

The $20 / month price is for the first year of the student-teacher pricing. Second year goes to $29.95. It's a better deal than purchasing the software at the outlandish prices. Adobe is not making software for the casual user. It's all professional stuff and I'm quite happy with my subscription. I don't store my files in their cloud, I keep them locally and on a backup elsewhere that costs me very little.

As for the outage, the software is loaded onto your machine and continues to function for 30 days even if you can't authenticate. I didn't have any problems using my Premiere Pro CC over the last several days nor any of the other apps such as Audition or Speed Grade. It seems those doing the most complaining are not users.

Adobe better take a look at their SLA (3, Insightful)

xanthos (73578) | about 3 months ago | (#47018895)

If one of our sites was down for as long as Adobe's was, heads would roll.

What took so long to restore? Crappy process for restoring server images or recovering a database?

Or, as others have speculated, was there a security breach and they couldn't bring it back up until all the evidence was gathered and the vulnerability was closed.

Oh wait, this is Adobe we are talking about. Their code doesn't have vulnerabilities.

This is why I don't upgrade (2)

pubwvj (1045960) | about 3 months ago | (#47019197)

I wanted to upgrade.
I had the cash in hand.
But Adobe destroying file compatibility (can't write CS4 files), forcing the subscription model, cloud and 30 to 90 day reauthorizations on me make it not something I'll do.

So I just keep using CS4.
It works.
Adobe loses money they would have gotten as upgrades by tens of thousands of users like me.
If another program comes out that I can afford that will read and write all the Adobe formats I need (Photoshop, Illustrator, Acrobat) then I would switch to it in a heart beat.

Old way, New way (2)

Dahlgil (631022) | about 3 months ago | (#47020005)

Old way.

1. Buy Photoshop CC, create thousands of editable images using CS6 proprietary features and saved in CS6 proprietary format. Cool.
2. Loved CC, but Acme Studios has finally released a superior product that will improve my images and workflow. It's incompatible with PS CC, but that's ok.
3. Buy Acme Studios to edit my new images; continue to use CS6 in parallel to edit my old images.

New way

1. Buy Photoshop CC, create thousands of editable images using CC only proprietary features and saved in CC only proprietary format. Cool.
2. Loved CC, but Acme Studios has finally released a superior product that will improve my images and workflow. It's incompatible with CC, but...oooh I think I'm seeing a problem.
3. Buy new software to edit my new images, but must continue to pay $$ ransom to Adobe to unlock and edit my old images forever and ever. Oops. Hmmm.

Moral. Until Acme Studios comes out, use CS6 and collaborate on your own terms.

Butthurt (0)

The Cat (19816) | about 3 months ago | (#47020171)

The only reason people are pissed off about Creative Cloud is because they can't pirate Photoshop any more.

Of course, those same people have no problem with Steam, even though it uses the same DRM.

Typical neckbeard hypocrites. Now mod it down you bunch of diaper wearing crybabies.

Re: Butthurt (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47022365)

Sorry, your premise is questionable.
http://www.cultofmac.com/232682/photoshop-and-whole-creative-cloud-already-cracked-and-pirated/

Re: Butthurt (0)

The Cat (19816) | about 3 months ago | (#47027577)

Not as questionable as the no-evidence claims made in that article.

Prrof Positive (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47020575)

that one cannot trust the so-called "cloud" with anything serious like your work. Honestly, companies should be doing all of their work in-house. The "cloud" is codeword for someone else's servers -- servers you don't control. No, thank you.

Guess who's back (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47022641)

Shady's back.

Oh well (1)

angst_ridden_hipster (23104) | about 3 months ago | (#47023585)

The sad thing is that now that everything's back up, it'll be business as usual.

I grudgingly subscribed to Adobe Creative cloud when I found that buying Illustrator would have cost me $750 for a legal copy, or $30/month and also include the rest of the CC package. I already own a legal copy of Photoshop CS5, which is good enough for me, so I haven't downloaded that, but I've had two projects that required video editing (so I downloaded Premier) and extracting difficult text from a PDF (so I downloaded Acrobat Pro after spending hours with PDFtk and PDFBox).

Before I subscribed, I found a torrents for a cracked version of Illustrator, which I used to determine that the program would solve the problem I was working on. After that, I bought the subscription. Adobe is really annoying; the software nags me a lot, and it opens a million network connections. Still, if I'm using their software to make money, I feel like I need to pay them.

Given the choice, I'd still rather have stand-alone versions of everything, but I can't afford to spend that much for programs I won't use very frequently.

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