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More Links And Reports On Terrorist Attacks

CmdrTaco posted about 13 years ago | from the give-more-blood dept.

United States 1056

Timothy has compiled a good list of links related to this morning's terrorist attacks around America. Many photos and video clips. There's a lot of good links there and I highly recommend that you read them. And thanks to the Slashteam for keeping the servers up through this. Its not easy dealing with 3x the traffic. I apologize to readers that have been inconvenienced.

Two major news updates: the plane downed near Pittsburgh is reported not to have been shot down. A fifth plane which had been feared hijacked, this one a Korean Air jetliner, was forced down by Canadian Air Force planes over the Yukon. However, this plane is reported not to have been hijacked -- instead, its emergency beacon was triggered by a low-fuel indicator.

Importantly -- remember, blood is in demand. The Red Cross' site is mobbed, but here's the blood donation information on a the cached page at google.

More details of the attack and its aftermath: a report at at gnome.org, and a photo at indymedia.org. pajama links to NYC Police scanner traffic (winamp) streamed online, and an anonymous reader also points to another scanner feed.

Shadowwalker Delaforge writes "Hey guys: I'm submitting my web site to yours to get the word out. I've been compiling web sites, and info on the U.S. Attack. These sites are ones that work, and arent' swamped out of existence. I'm also adding new data about where people can donate money, blood, and other things dealing with this.

soccerdad writes "Due to the activities of today, the internet/networking experts at my firm have been asked by some of our clients to be on standby in case anything untoward occurs. They've been monitoring backbone activity, etc., in a "just in case" mode. They've described the activity they're seeing as somewhat strange. The backbone is, according to them, at about 80% utilization -- they've never seen it above 40% before. However, the main portal sites such as Yahoo aren't having substantively higher than normal traffic. They're working on doing some traffic analysis but haven't completed that effort yet."

A small piece of that bandwidth may be saved if you go to the link Kalak suggests: "William Shunn is collecting short notes from people in the terrorist affected areas so you can see who is OK." Look here (or post your name here if you're in an affected city) before tying up a phone connection. Alex Fabrikant submitted another personal information site at Berkeley

Thapthim writes "http://cbc.ca/ has all sorts of information, even in our own city buildings are being shutdown, all air traffic has been suspended. However Canadian Airports are taking in international flights heading into US so the air ports there are free for emergencies."

sn0wcrsh wrote to say that a "short blurb on Channel 7 Boston that the CTO of Akamai was on the fateful plane that hit the trade center" confirms the earlier reports that he was on board.

And ectrix writes: "The CFO of my company, Netegrity was on United Airlines Flight 175, which has been confirmed to us by United Airlines to have hit tower two of the WTC.

WAVY NBC - Norfolk, VA (among other local TV stations I'm sure) is reporting on the air the Threatcon levels at the area Naval, Air Force, and Army bases. They are all at Threatcon Delta. Their website currently only lists their status as of the beginning of the attacks, which was Threatcon Charlie. Norfolk, VA is the home port for the US Atlantic Fleet. Local TV stations also are showing armed (M16s, shotguns) guards patrolling the base grounds and perimeters."

There are updated photos and videos here, and CarbonFusion wrote with another good link to photos and videos.. eddiem writes: "http://www.flightexplorer.com/ will soon let you view the flight path of the planes." Explanations of airport security at How Stuff Works and Cryptome are an interesting read under the circumstances as well.

Bard, Andrew wrote with some updates as well:

"Just to let you know:
  1. I heard a woman who was on the 92nd floor of the first WTC building when the plane hit it. She was able to escape and so was everyone "in her company" so it is assumed that virtually everyone from the 92nd floor down was evacuated successfully - an estimated 20,000 people of the 25,000 in the building.
  2. the plane that went down in PA had a woman onboard who locked herself in the bathroom with her cellular phone - she was telling authorities about the hijacking when the plane crashed and killed her - that is the only way the authorities knew for sure what plane went down in PA so quickly, she gave her flight number
  3. the Mexican border is completely closed and the Canadian border is still open - all International flights have been redirected to Northern Canada
  4. the planes from Boston were presumably chosen because they were going on long flights (to LA) which would make them larger than average airliners with full tanks of gas
  5. when the first WTC building crashed (which was the 2nd one to be hit), 125 firemen were down below fighting the fire on the first building to be hit... none of them have been heard from yet - 10,000 emergency personnel in NYC responded to the first WTC getting hit... it is unknown how many of those were crushed in the two collapsed buildings."

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I hate today. (-1)

CmdrTaco on (468152) | about 13 years ago | (#2281551)

geez, i wish i had a time machine.

Correction (4, Informative)

SquierStrat (42516) | about 13 years ago | (#2281574)

Canadian border has been since sealed.

Re:Correction (0)

seann (307009) | about 13 years ago | (#2281739)

from what I heard, only the rainbow bridge was closed (New York area).

I live in Niagara Falls, I'm scared to go down to the bridges and see the horrendus backup.

Re:Correction (0)

Meech (166762) | about 13 years ago | (#2281797)

I am also from Niagara Falls and all of the bridges are up and running except for the Whirlpool bridge, which noone uses anyway.

Re:Correction (1)

Talaran (70085) | about 13 years ago | (#2281799)

The news I've read reported that the Canadian/US border was going to be closed, but still has not been. But you can bet security there is extremely tight.

I live and work under the Vancouver Airport flight path. The skies are pretty clear today.

appreciate the info (1)

quannump (310933) | about 13 years ago | (#2281576)

if it wasn't for slashdot i wouldn't have been able to stay informed of the situation. I thank all people involved with providing such information.

Re:appreciate the info (1)

combat chuck123 (513470) | about 13 years ago | (#2281638)

I completely echo this statement... This is one of the few sites I could get to reliably come up all day.

Thank you.

Re:appreciate the info (2)

bartle (447377) | about 13 years ago | (#2281834)

This is probably some of the best work I've seen from the Slashdot editors. They've been putting up reliable information faster than some of the big sites. They're dedication in this case is appreciated.

The best photo I've seen of this nightmare (2, Interesting)

hakkikt (173329) | about 13 years ago | (#2281582)

http://www.spack.nu/wtc/wtcboom.jpg

Link to Photos (2, Insightful)

akiaki007 (148804) | about 13 years ago | (#2281589)

Here is a link [yimg.com] on Yahoo! [yahoo.com] that is just their most recent pictures. I saw up to about page 5 or 6 that were just of this.

Fuck you TACO!!! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281590)

I find your "from the give-me-more-blood dept." comment both trivializing and offensive
What the fuck is your problem? Thousands of americans have died.
be a little more responsible than that!!!!!

Re:Fuck you TACO!!! (1)

katsushiro (513378) | about 13 years ago | (#2281704)

Um, if you'll take a quick read up there *beforE* overreacting, he says 'give more blood' not give *me* more blood'. And as far as I am concerned, it is both appropriate and important. There is little that any of us can do in this tragedy, we cannot hunt down those responsible, we cannot directly aid those hurt, we cannot turn back the hands of time and stop this from ever having happened. But one thing that we can all do is donate blood, which is sorely needed in these relief efforts, especially if you are Type O. Next time, take a breath, calm down, and make sure you know what you're reading before writing.

Re:Fuck you TACO!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281705)

It's "give more blood" and it refers to the need of more blood donations.

First learn to read properly, then come back to bitch and moan.

Read it again... (1)

MadCow42 (243108) | about 13 years ago | (#2281708)

You must've been educated in public school... it says "give-more-blood"... without the "me".

It's a call to donate... you might want to pick up a brain while you're there. He's not THAT ignorant.

MadCow.

Read before you act... (1)

shakamojo (518620) | about 13 years ago | (#2281774)

He's saying "GIVE MORE BLOOD"... as in DONATE to the Red Cross... Don't jump to conclusions until you've read these things carefully... we're all upset and hurt. Spreading more hate and anger isn't helping anyone.

You can also view images and movies at (2, Informative)

CRiMSON (3495) | about 13 years ago | (#2281595)

http://www.unspeakable.org/wtc

Please email me all your pics and movies, as I will put them online also.

email them to crimson@unspeakable.org

Pictures (1)

Pludodog (181200) | about 13 years ago | (#2281769)

http://members.home.com/pludodog/page1.htm

My friend took this from the Jersey shore with his cam, they may not be better than the news, but they're still frickin scary.

Another building collapsed (5, Informative)

WebMasterJoe (253077) | about 13 years ago | (#2281597)

Wish I could be more informative, but check the tv - building 7 (part of the WTC complex) collapsed, but it was expected and officials were waiting for about a half hour, from what I heard. Apparently, injuries from this collapse are minimal.

Re:Another building collapsed (2)

TOTKChief (210168) | about 13 years ago | (#2281836)

The building was on fire prior to the collapse, and had been completely evacuated.

Foreign correspondance (1)

crankydoodle (462557) | about 13 years ago | (#2281601)

Don't forget that the entire world is reporting on this as well... the BBC [bbc.co.uk] in particular has some excellent resources.

Kudos! (2)

soulsteal (104635) | about 13 years ago | (#2281604)


I would like to (try) to be the first to thank the Slashteam, the editors, and all Slashdotters themselves for their response to this. I woke up and just happened to check Slashdot before I left for work. I arrived an hour late thanks to CNN and my own astonishment. Later through the day, while news sites went up and down, Slashdot's commentary provided ample links to news sources for those of us trapped in cubicles.

Huzzah to you!

FUCK THE ARABS... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281605)

... in their loose asses!

WTC Update (0)

crumbz (41803) | about 13 years ago | (#2281610)

The 3rd building just collapsed. CNN reports either building 5 or 7 which has been burning since this morning, went down.

What we need to do!!! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281611)

In A.D. 2001
War was beginning.
Bush: What happen ?
Rice: Somebody set up us the crash
Kraft: We get signal
Bush: What !
Kraft: Main screen turn on
Bush: It's You !!
Bin Laden: How are you gentlemen !!
Bin Laden: All your airliner are belong to us
Bin Laden: You are on the way to destruction
Bin Laden: What you say !!
Bin Laden: You have no chance to survive make your time
Bin Laden: HA HA HA HA ....
Bush : Take off every 'nuke'
Bush: You know what you doing
Bush: Move 'nuke'
Bush: For great justice

Don't care if I get modded down (2, Informative)

Goldberg's Pants (139800) | about 13 years ago | (#2281613)

A third building has collapsed. Building 7 if that means anything to anybody.

I'm in Canada, and despite our differences with our friends to the south, this incident is just horrific. Seeing the towers collapse was the most stunning and sickening sight I've ever seen.

Condolences and regards to all those in New York, and around America.

One question. Where was that 4th plane headed? Looked like the Pentagon from the ATC displays CNN showed...

Re:Don't care if I get modded down (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281686)

Apparently the third building was the Salamon (sp?) Brothers building - other buildings in the area are also said to be unstable.

The BBC (tv) here in the UK has been doing a great job of keeping up with the events today.

Re:Don't care if I get modded down (1)

DavidJA (323792) | about 13 years ago | (#2281702)

Australian news is reporting that the 4th plane was possably headed for Camp David.

Re:Don't care if I get modded down (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281825)

Australian news is reporting that the 4th plane was possably headed for Camp David.

This might be coincidence but I think September 11 1978 was the start of the Camp David accords. Perhaps 'somebody' protected this 'holy' area from this insane and barbaric act.

I know this is redundant (-1)

core10k (196263) | about 13 years ago | (#2281619)

But just in case you're not paying attention, a third building has collapsed nearby where the world trade center towers used to be. It's called Building #7.

Mexican Border / Canadian Border (1)

ThatGuyAZ (124658) | about 13 years ago | (#2281625)

Actually, that statement above is exactly the opposite of correct. ABC is reporting the Canadian border crossings are closed (remember the guy they nabbed on the runup to Y2K in Washington State). Mexican border crossings are open, except for San Ysidro (near San Diego).

Re:Mexican Border / Canadian Border (1)

stcanard (244581) | about 13 years ago | (#2281701)

I live in Vancouver, so I can fill in some details here:

The Canadian border is open, it was closed briefly. Don't bother trying to get through, you need a specific reason and every car is being searched. A CBC reporter was let through, but they put spikes down in front of the car before searching it just so he couldn't get through.

Planes are being diverted to whatever Canadian airport can handle them, not just northern ones. I can see the Vancouver airport from where I am, and it's just a sea of planes. I don't see how anymore could possibly get in, but I still hear more circling overhead. They've obviously opened a runway they don't normally use, because the planes are coming down on a line they don't normally take.

Finally, I don't know what they're going to do about accomodations! I don't see how we can possibly have enough hotels by the airport for this, so they're going to have to send people far afield. That's going to be a real problem.

Better security on planes (2, Insightful)

niftyzero (239711) | about 13 years ago | (#2281632)

I'm disappointed that it is so easy to hijack planes. I think airplane crew should be armed and the cockpit better protected. Airplanes are vulnerable targets with a large payoff for terrorists, and should be protected accordingly.

Re:Better security on planes (1)

ThymePuns (222253) | about 13 years ago | (#2281653)

If a gun goes off on a plane, it's bad even if it misses any person. You wouldn't want a hole in the plane either.

But it is a shame, like all of today's events.

Innocents.. (5, Insightful)

joss (1346) | about 13 years ago | (#2281633)

Killing innocent civilians serves no good purpose. I just hope that principle is remembered even in anger and during calls for revenge. If you can positively identify and kill those responsible, fine, but if you are prepared to see the deaths of innocent civilians in the pursuit of revenge, then you have no moral advantage over the terrorists.

Re:Innocents.. (5, Insightful)

Winged Cat (101773) | about 13 years ago | (#2281727)

Killing innocent civilians serves no good purpose. I just hope that principle is remembered even in anger and during calls for revenge. If you can positively identify and kill those responsible, fine, but if you are prepared to see the deaths of innocent civilians in the pursuit of revenge, then you have no moral advantage over the terrorists.

Put another way, consider what the terrorists actually did: kill innocent civilians. All of the suspects (Muslims, domestic, etc.) would have been motivated by revenge. If we kill or harrass everyone who might be associated with a terrorists, in the hopes of silencing or scaring our enemies, we will have become terrorists ourselves - literally, acting by terror.

The US is already close enough to ruling by fear (note the "chilling effect" - Supreme Court's legal term - extended by the DMCA and other recent legislation, going far beyond the intent and, often, the letter of the law). It doesn't need to go further down that path just now.

Re:Innocents.. (0)

theDEFT (254259) | about 13 years ago | (#2281759)

Give the US more credit. Sounds like you are describing a revenge response by the US that involves killing innocent civilians in hopes that we weed out the bad seeds. We're smarter than that. Any revenge sequence should be slow and methodical: Surgically and carefully executed.
Reminder that you don't have to kill to get revenge.

Re:Innocents.. (3, Informative)

martyb (196687) | about 13 years ago | (#2281785)

First off, my heartfelt condolences to those who have lost family, friends, and loved ones in this tragedy.

I met with a number of friends at lunch. Some had loved ones who they had been unable to reach to see if they were okay.
I felt powerless over what had happened, and indeed there is nothing anyone can do to change what has already happened. But, I did what I could, today. I offered a shoulder to cry on. I encouraged them to have hope, to know that not knowing does not mean the worst. That there is already a tremendous pulling together of support. Calls for blood donations, people reaching out to friends they hadn't talked with for a long while, and countless other acts across the country and the world where people offer support to one another.

This tragedy can become a rallying point, an opportunity to show the world what we are made of here in the US of A. The Oklahoma bombing, the flooding of the Mississippi River, hurricanes, tornadoes, and earthquakes. We are a people that has a long history of reaching out to help.

A proverb I've liked: "If I cannot do great things, then I will do small things in great ways." (Don't know who wrote it, sorry.) Each person who lends a hand, a shoulder, a caring heart does something tangible. And all of those seemingly small acts, when taken together, can show the world, and ourselves, that we are greater, MUCH greater, than these attacks.

Bush Whereabouts (1)

spikeovsky (212767) | about 13 years ago | (#2281634)

Most people seem to not know where Dubya is right now...CBC Radio here in Toronto is reporting that the "undisclosed" location of the president is in fact at a National Security meeting in Nebraska.

Thought some of you would like to know. I still don't believe this is happening.

The Internet has Helped (4, Interesting)

pgrote (68235) | about 13 years ago | (#2281637)

I am amazed at how well the internet has helped disseminate information. I am surprised by the lack of rumors and the amazing compilation pages of information.

What was really heartening was this:

http://www.worldtradecenter.com

Usually it's some jerk looking to make money. This person looks to be really trying to help.

gas hits $5/gallon, katz still insane (2, Troll)

MattW (97290) | about 13 years ago | (#2281640)

KMBZ radio reports Kansas City, MO has gas at $5/gallon, and another of $4/gallon in Louisville, KY.

That would imply that there is an expectation of serious middle eastern turmoil.

Oh, and thanks for bumping that ass Katz. Maybe next time you'll have the sense to just remove that crap. Only a total fool would try to label this event "Techno-Armageddon".

Re:gas hits $5/gallon, katz still insane (2)

M. Silver (141590) | about 13 years ago | (#2281798)

Or an expectation of a short-term high demand as everyone panics. (I filled up the twenty-five-gallon tank on the van promptly this morning. Should last me six weeks. Somehow, I doubt that's going to be long enough to outlast the fallout from this. Sigh.)

Re:gas hits $5/gallon, katz still insane (1)

jcrowe (207448) | about 13 years ago | (#2281806)

About 150 miles North East of Kansas City several gas stations are shut down because they ran out of gas. Sucks to be me!

What Would Ender Do? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281642)

What Would Ender Do?

Re:What Would Ender Do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281750)

Forgive his enemy, and try to avoid destroying them. A lesson most of the jerkwad posters round here need to learn.

Still doesn't seem real. (3)

Skyshadow (508) | about 13 years ago | (#2281647)

Hijacked planes hitting skyscrapers, national landmarks crashing into the streets of New York, bombing at the State Dept., attacks on the Pentagon, F-16s ready to shoot down anything that enters New York/DC airspace.

My God, what happened?

these muslim bastards are gonna pay!!! (-1)

jewhater2001 (300311) | about 13 years ago | (#2281654)

revenge.

A bit off topic (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281658)

I've never been a fan of WTC (and WTO, globalisation, etc).

Since the principles of free software is somewhat similar to socialist, imho.

What I'd like to know, how many of you are socialists? Also, support free software while at the same time, support globalisation.

5th Plane (1)

DavidJA (323792) | about 13 years ago | (#2281659)

Slashdot reported a 5th plane crashed in an undisclosed location. Australian news also speaks of 5 plans. BUT MSNBC & CNN all report 4 planes. Where did the 5th plane go?

Re:5th Plane (2, Informative)

Nf1nk (443791) | about 13 years ago | (#2281752)

The 5th plane was a Japan Air plane that was forced down by the Canadian Airforce. it was not hijacked, its emergancy beacon was turned on by a low fuel condition

Re:5th Plane (1)

jmkf (520045) | about 13 years ago | (#2281778)

This could be the Korean plane low on fuel because of divertion to Canada and forced down there by the AF.

Re:5th Plane (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281796)

Rumour: Forced or shot down by USAF. Unconfirmed.

Re:5th Plane (1)

stcanard (244581) | about 13 years ago | (#2281805)

At one time (this morning) they were talking about a 5th plane crashed somewhere in Colorado, but that's dropped out of all the American and Canadian news sources, so it appears it was a rumour.

don't worry (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281664)

the trolls are still here.

POLL? (0)

Roadmaster (96317) | about 13 years ago | (#2281666)

and with all that's going on, we still have the stupid surge protector poll on slashdot? cmon people, show some sense of opportunity! give us an interesting poll!

Gas prices as a result (1)

kvandivo (207171) | about 13 years ago | (#2281667)

I've heard through the grapevine that gas prices are going through the roof in some areas. Supposedly Lafayette, Indiana has $7 a gallon
gas prices and here in central Illinois where I'm at the stations have long lines.. What about where you are?

Kirby

Re:Gas prices as a result (1)

thilmony (248711) | about 13 years ago | (#2281818)

$1.69 in Minneapolis, 4pm CDT

IT-companies (1)

eXENCE (452032) | about 13 years ago | (#2281673)

Here's a list over IT related companies in WTC (comments in swedish):
http://nyheter.idg.se/display.asp?ID=010911-SOS6

KNX 1070 newsradio (0)

Nf1nk (443791) | about 13 years ago | (#2281676)

KNX 1070 newsradio [knx1070.com] has news on this and seems to be handling the load fairly well
they also have links to a lot of good images and videos

Just crazy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281677)


I don't even know what to say.. Just had to say something........

What a grave day..

If you value your democracy .... (4, Informative)

ayden (126539) | about 13 years ago | (#2281681)


VOTE!

Please remember that in many parts of the US today is an ELECTION DAY.

Bruce Davis
UNIX Systems Administrator
Lernout & Hauspie Speech Products
Burlington, MA USA

Even rotten has info (1)

mauri (168049) | about 13 years ago | (#2281682)

Its on their today in history page [rotten.com] .

Congrats as well (1)

M_Talon (135587) | about 13 years ago | (#2281685)

On the fear of being redundant, you guys at Slashdot did a spectacular job. When other sites were getting blitzed of the net by traffic, Slashdot and other tech news sites (CNET and WIRED for starters) picked up the slack and kept people informed. You also did an incredible job keeping the servers up under the crushing weight of everyone. Thanks again, guys.

W? (1)

Smallest (26153) | about 13 years ago | (#2281787)

/. was down 1/2 the morning and it's been in flake-mode ever since - you know where links always go back to the front page, logins are lost, etc.. no big deal, there was probably a lot of traffic.

the only places i was getting news from were www.codeproject.com (aussie winodws programming site) and www.washingtonpost.com.

-c

quite shocking... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281688)

well... i'm pretty curious whats about to happen now..
hopefully bush doesn't decide blindly or is unfluenced too much by the public's pressure who want to see a REaction.
i'd fear any REaction... oh f*ck
worst case scenario: US in rage; whole world sh*tting pants

And don't forget Poliglut (2, Offtopic)

rw2 (17419) | about 13 years ago | (#2281690)

Poliglut [poliglut.com] we've got a running diary with links of the whole day.

the middle east (4, Flamebait)

dirtyhippie (259852) | about 13 years ago | (#2281691)

I find it highly ironic that, yet again, everyone instantly jumps to the conclusion that it was Arabs who are behind these tragedies. Does anyone else remember Oklahoma City, and the rush to judgement there, when in the end it was a white hick with a gap tooth. Let's face it, there's a whole lot of people out there that hate the US, and for good reason (I was going to put a list here, but it's really just about everyone except Israel, Japan, Western Europe, and Canada). We've been exploiting these places economically for decades now, and if you ask me, it's about time they stood up for themselves. And, before you say "economic domination does not merit this kind of response" - let me pose this question - what other way is there to respond when you are facing an opponent who has the money, owns the world legal system (has the money), and owns large numbers of world politicians (has the money)? In any event, let's hope that the American government can set an example in not responding with force until it is COMPLETELY positive who it is retaliating against, and let's hope as well that civilian casualties that come from the retaliation are minimal. Furthermore let's hope American citizens wake up to what their government and corporations are doing around the world in time to prevent more of these attacks, before they happen, because that is the only way to eliminate the problem.

Re:the middle east (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281857)

why do you include Western Europe in your list of people who *don't* hate the US ?
Anonymous Frog

Website for uptodate information (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281699)

http://usterror.nashlink.net [nashlink.net] has been setup to keep up to date information on the attacks, and their aftermath. It's running slashcode, please stop by and take a look, or help post information and links from sites to keep people up to date. Thanks.

the canadian border hasn't been sealed... (4, Interesting)

canning (228134) | about 13 years ago | (#2281703)

Reports that came earlier in the day point towards the Canadian border crossing to be closed. This is not the case. The borders are open but long lines as extensive searches may have lead to the rumour that they were closed. Truck and car traffic is being allowed to cross. Some crossings are ghost towns because of the rumours.

My office building is right behind Lester B. Pearson Airport in Toronto, Ontario, Canada and it's usually very busy with airplane traffic. It's eerie now that there is none. The shock can be felt around the world. Deepest sympathies from Canada.

For those speaking German (5, Informative)

friday2k (205692) | about 13 years ago | (#2281710)

/. is international, so you might wanna check it out:

Tagesschau [tagesschau.de]
Welt [www.welt.de]
Rheinische Post [rp-online.de]
Spiegel Online [spiegel.de]
Stern [stern.de]

All of these sites have good picture coverage for those who do not speak German. And they are way faster than all US sites at the moment!

First Jihad (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281713)

I'm the first Jihad mutha to post in this article!

5+ articles. I guess I'll read them. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281716)

This is what the fifth article in a row on the same subject. Perhaps I should read them.

Call for a new poll (2)

jafac (1449) | about 13 years ago | (#2281721)

I think the current poll is inappropriate.

I think that it would be cool if slashdot would use the poll to see what people, in general, are feeling about todays events.

Abnormally high backbone utilization? (4, Insightful)

-=OmegaMan=- (151970) | about 13 years ago | (#2281725)

"They've described the activity they're seeing as somewhat strange. The backbone is, according to them, at about 80% utilization -- they've never seen it above 40% before. However, the main portal sites such as Yahoo aren't having substantively higher than normal traffic. They're working on doing some traffic analysis but haven't completed that effort yet"

The data at Internet Health Report [internethealthreport.com] would lead me to believe that, other than a higher-than-usual web browsing traffic to specific sites, it's business as usual for the majority of the internet.

I'd like to see any contrary information, though.

Uhhh, Slashdot (-1)

ChessProzac (246011) | about 13 years ago | (#2281730)

MSNBC has it covered. There's no use for you open source pigfuckers. Timothy is gay and I hope he gets hit by a hijacked aircraft.

Tech Disaster Links (2)

SEWilco (27983) | about 13 years ago | (#2281731)

Thank you (1)

zeedotcom (93951) | about 13 years ago | (#2281734)

Let me be among the first to thank Timothy for the links. If possible, could somene point to a source on engineering that would explain if/how it is possible for a building to collapse from the top down, as the towers did?

VERY strange coincidence (5, Interesting)

zsazsa (141679) | about 13 years ago | (#2281747)

I was flipping through the latest Wired magazine while watching the news reports. I was looking through the record reviews and saw THIS [polpo.org] . An album cover of the WTC exploding. I was floored.

ian @ polpo . org

Message from Canada... (1)

madchris (266878) | about 13 years ago | (#2281760)

I live on Prince Edward Island, Canada. I have been following the news (mostly CNN) since I heard about the attrocities perpetrated on you, our southern cousins.
Though it may not be very helpful in a practical way, I offer you all, at least the vibrational support (all I have to offer) in your time of grief. I know I'm not alone in the way I feel up here in Canada.
You "Yanks", as we sometimes call you are our friends and historically very much our cousins. You are family. We have you in our hearts.

Daniel Lewin of Akamai died. (5, Informative)

sv0f (197289) | about 13 years ago | (#2281761)

In addition to Timothy's link, Akamai's web site contains the following message:

Caryn Brownell
Media Relations
Akamai Technologies
617-444-4661
cbrownell@akamai.com

AKAMAI TECHNOLOGIES MOURNS THE LOSS OF CO-FOUNDER AND CTO DANIEL LEWIN

Cambridge, MA, September 11, 2001 - With great sadness, Akamai Technologies, Inc. today announced the passing of Daniel C. Lewin, co-founder, chief technology officer and board member of the Company. American Airlines confirmed that he was on board the Boston to Los Angeles flight that crashed in New York City today. Danny was 31 years old and is survived by his wife and two sons.

George H. Conrades, chairman and chief executive officer of Akamai said, "Danny was a wonderful human being. He will be deeply missed by his many friends at Akamai. Our thoughts and prayers are with Danny's family, friends and colleagues during this time of national tragedy and personal loss."

I copied this from here [akamai.com] .

Towelhead Payback Part II (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281766)

Here is my plan for towelhead payback:


I just went and bought 6 spray bottles of mace. I'm going to go to the mall and scope out some towelheads. I'll shadow them, and when they go outside to leave I'll run up behind them and blast them with the mace. If I wait until dusk and I'm quick enough they will never see who I am. I'm pretty fast so I should be able to get away without getting caught.


You people will cower in fear!

For Once. (1)

Ho-Lee-Cow! (173978) | about 13 years ago | (#2281775)

The NY Times site isn't free registration. :-(

A Point to Make (0, Troll)

orangesquid (79734) | about 13 years ago | (#2281776)

This is not a troll. I repeat, this is not a troll. I just want people to think about the philsophy behind these lyrics, and how it applies to the terrorists, the people shouting "WAR", the people shouting "Bomb the Middle East", the people shouting "Turn the Other Cheek", and everyone else who has formed some opinion...

My point: are we really all assholes? Who's the asshole here? Who's supposed to be the asshole? Who wants whom to be the asshole?

Asshole [Guttermouth]

I don't like the things you like
And you don't like the things I like
She don't like the things they like
So who the fuck is really right
See a skinhead at a show
Let him know he's got to go
Fuck white power, the KKK
A-S-S-H-O-L-E!

Chorus
Everyone's an asshole ("Raging asshole")
My mom's an asshole ("Fuck you asshole")
You're a fucking asshole ("Fucking asshole")
And I'm a goddamn asshole

Mom and dad, the Grateful Dead
Major labels and straight edge
Coors and school and roller blades
God, Rick James and Oakley shades
Fishing, Wayne, silly jocks
Nazis, midgets, new tube socks
L.D. from M.R.&R.
And fucking Zeppelin Man

Everyone's an asshole ("Raging asshole")
My mom's an asshole ("Fuck you asshole")
You're a fucking asshole ("Fucking asshole")
And I'm a goddamn asshole

Everyone's an asshole ("Raging asshole")
My mom's an asshole ("Fuck you asshole")
You're a fucking asshole ("Fucking asshole")
And I'm a goddamn asshole

Hippies, harleys, Pearl Jam
Chili peppers, case of Spam
Riot grrls, Ponch and Jon
Squash and pork and carmel flan
We hate these things
We hate you, too
Go fuck a monkey in the zoo
Oscar Meyer has a way with
B.O.L.O.G.N.A.

(I apologize in advance if I got any of the lyrics wrong.)

Farewell to the twin towers. (5, Interesting)

mrsam (12205) | about 13 years ago | (#2281784)

Only a few short weeks ago I walked a couple of times across the Brooklyn and Manhattan bridges, to get some fresh air. I took a bunch of pictures of the evening New York City skyline. Amongst them were a couple of shot of the WTC towers. Little did I know that this would be the last time I'd see them.

Please see my short tribute to the World Trace Center towers:

http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Peaks/5799/ farewelltowtc/index.html [geocities.com] .

God have mercy on these souls.

Psychics (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281793)

Anyone notice that there were no psychics predicting this diaster or any of the other major ones in the past? Will we ever learn that they're all frauds?

Best source! (4, Informative)

guanxi (216397) | about 13 years ago | (#2281808)

Stratfor [stratfor.com]

Concise, more comprehensive than anything else I've seen, and by far the best analysis.

Usually, they're a leading foreign policy website, focusing on 'intelligence' rather than 'news'.

Remember, the power of terrorists is terror -- don't let them win.

Ahem: Southern Canada (2)

Pope (17780) | about 13 years ago | (#2281809)

There are no large airports in Northern Canada! The big ones, where most if not all of the flights are heading, are Vancouver, Toronto, and Goose Bay. These are the ones that can handle the traffic. Please see a post above from Vancouver, here in Toronto it's pretty nuts.

CALL to CRACKERS (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281810)

Don't wait for the government. Retaliate NOW!! Show our technical SUPERIORITY!!!

This is the site of the Afghan terrorists:

www.afghanistan-ie.com

it's been nmapped and it is very vulnerable. It won't take much to OWN THE RAG-HED SERVER!!!!

Allah! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281813)

Blackbox recovered.

Hairy Islamic camelfucker: "God is great. God is Great. IEEE!! Allah! Death to the Great Satan."

Explosion. Silence.

This comment violates the comment compression filter. So I've had to add this bit in. Fuck slashdot.

Flight Instructions - MS Flight Simulator (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281814)

Word has it the terrorist learned to fly the aircraft aided by a copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator!

Internet rememberance campaign (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 13 years ago | (#2281819)

A rememberance campaign has been started to mourn today's victim and their loved ones. Webmasters are encouraged to participate and replace their banners in commemoration. Small ribbon images are available to place on your website. Please see http://remember.worldatwar.org [worldatwar.org]

Welcome to the Holy War America (0, Flamebait)

disc-chord (232893) | about 13 years ago | (#2281821)

(assuming this motivated by Islamic Terrorists)

This is the first time America has suffered tremendous casualities of the Holy War ongoing in the middle east. I hope that when the dust settles america realizes that the people who commited this horenous act... are in fact people too. Despite how painful it might be to acknowledge this, they are people just like you and me.

Most people like you and me are not motivated sufficiently to give up their life for a cause. In fact, in Islamic traditions, suicide means a certain fate in hell. Yet today we have been visited with a horror that could only be brought by suicidical means.

How could people like you and me veto their natural basic instict for survival? God. The devout belief in God provides an "out". You don't need to worry about your survival if your mind is operating on the assumption that there is something greater than life.

I would hope that Americans can set aside their own personal beliefs and unite in an attempt to ban practicing religion. It is religion that killed the Aztecs. It is religion that brought us the inquisition. It is religion that has brought us the non-stop terror in the middle east. 2 very talented programmers (and slashdot readers) I know were drafted into the Isreal Armed Forces last year. 4 Months ago one of them was killed. I lost a friend because of a "Belief". How many friends and family did you lose today because of a "Belief"?

good ol' friendly americans (1)

jeff's cape shop (460736) | about 13 years ago | (#2281832)

Having watched this on uk tv all day, one thing i've noticed is that almost every american interviewed firstly makes the point that it was "an attack on civilization and democracy" and "the whole world", whereas everyone else (and me included) is of the opinion that it was an attack on the american authority and all that jiz.

The second point they make is that there will be no delay in american retaliation. I heard one guy say [something like] "thousands have been killed today. America will be sure to retaliate immediatly, and with great force" (ok so i can't exactly remember but you get the idea). Another one said "this is not a case for a single missile strike [about the usa's retalliation], more a sustained attack", presumably meaning the usa plans to use their patented "bomb the f#ck out of everyone" technique to make themselves feel better.

pics (-1)

Mr804 (12397) | about 13 years ago | (#2281839)

ro0t.com [ro0t.com] has a few pics.

Stratfor.com coverage (1)

Brad Moore (11260) | about 13 years ago | (#2281844)

There is good coverage of this at http://www.stratfor.com/ with analysis of the impact on an economic and political scale.

The two 747's that landed in Whitehorse (5, Insightful)

Lawmeister (201552) | about 13 years ago | (#2281846)

First off - my previous post had 2 errors, 'Debt of Honour' was Clancey's book, and yes, GWB was not in power last year, my apologies in writing at too fevered a pitch.

Now, my report regarding the escorted landing of two 747's at Whitehorse International Airport:

11:42am A Korean Airlines cargo 747-400 landed using every inch of available runway

11:50am We spotted another inbound jet
11:52am A Korea Airlines passenger 747 landed coming down just 15 feet above the fence....an awesome and scary sight from only 100 feet away. 3 F-18's (hard to say, they were pretty high up) escorted them in and continued to circle Whitehorse's airspace.

Luckily Whitehorse's runway had just been extended to facilitate 747's last year.

Emergency vehicles kept their distance from both planes, the passenger plane having taxied back to the north end of the runway, as far away from the terminal as possible.

A gray truck approached the passenger plane, dispersing ground personnel to chalk the wheels, then fell in behind an officer wielding a long barreled weapon and backed up behind the officer to the truck and departed the scene

A ramp was brought to the aircraft but no one left for about 20 minutes (at 12:36pm) when a single male came down and walked towards the police vehicles (we could hear the occasional word from a police loudspeaker) he made it about half way when he was obviously ordered to lift his shirt up, turn around, lift his pant legs, then he removed the shirt completely, holding it over his head while continuing to walk towards the vehicles. People with binoculars were able to see several FBI jackets amongst the police. There was a lear jet nearby which was probably used to get the FBI here from Alaska (since as far as I know we don't have any resident FBI in Yukon).

At 12:43pm we were ordered away from the area by the RCMP. Apparently for 'our own safety' - we were on crown land, outside the airport's perimeter fence.

There is the possibility that we may be receiving up to 10 planes, but I have no idea where they could park them.

Further information available at:
http://www.canoe.ca/MoneyNews/sept11_yukon-dow.h tm l
http://www.canoe.ca/CNEWSWorldTrade0109/11_white -c p.html
http://cbc.ca/

Kudos Slashdot (1)

TastyWheat (302413) | about 13 years ago | (#2281851)

Kudos for slashdot for being one of the only sites to stay up during a world crisis. You rose to the challenge when needed.

MSNBC: Nuclear Retaliation "Not Off The Table" (5, Informative)

David Hume (200499) | about 13 years ago | (#2281854)

From MSNBC [msnbc.com] :

THE SCALE of the attacks and the loss of life -- mostly in New York City's World Trade Center, but also in Pittsburgh and Washington -- ensured that "no option has been taken off the table," senior U.S. officials said. Asked if that included nuclear weapons, one senior official said: "I said no option is out of the question. That's precisely what I mean."


Further:

Among the options under active consideration:

Major retaliatory airstrikes: The United States could strike at Afghanistan with missile strikes -- possibly even tactical nuclear weapons -- to demonstrate its anger and the grave consequences of such an attack on U.S. soil.


The entire article is copied below.

U.S. pondering its response

'No options taken off the table' -- senior U.S. official

By Michael Moran

MSNBC

Sept. 11 -- Reeling from the most devastating day of terrorist attacks in history, President George W. Bush and his advisors struggled on Tuesday to devise a response that would convey the depth of the outrage felt across the United States without appearing to lash out blindly.

THE SCALE of the attacks and the loss of life -- mostly in New York City's World Trade Center, but also in Pittsburgh and Washington -- ensured that "no option has been taken off the table," senior U.S. officials said. Asked if that included nuclear weapons, one senior official said: "I said no option is out of the question. That's precisely what I mean."

The nature and precision of the attacks, along with their unknown origin, left the United States with no useful precedents or contingency plans to fall back on. Procedurally, the attacks prompted officials to institute safeguards consistent with a state of war: Airspace over major American cities was cleared of commercial traffic and replaced by military interceptors; large, obvious targets like the White House, Capitol building, the Disney theme parks in Florida and California and the Sears Tower in Chicago, were evacuated. Most tellingly, the president, vice president, congressional leaders and other key government officials were spirited to secure, undisclosed locations -- an indication that the attacks achieved an astounding degree of surprise.

Indeed, many officials echoed the words of the U.S. Atlantic Fleet's commander, Navy Adm. Robert J. Natter: "We have been attacked like we haven't been attacked since Pearl Harbor." He then dispatched aircraft carriers to the waters off New York and Washington -- an unprecedented step -- to provide air cover.

HIGH ALERT

The United States military and its diplomatic organs quickly ordered steps consistent with imminent action.

President Bush placed American military commands around the world, including North American Air Defense Command, or NORAD, on their highest level of alert. Air Force One, carrying Bush, landed briefly at Offutt Air Force Base in Nebraska, the home of Strategic Air Command, the nation's nuclear war fighting command, as well as the so-called "doomsday plane," a flying command post meant for use in case of a nuclear attack on America.

Ambassadors of the world's most powerful military alliance, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, scheduled an emergency meeting for 5 p.m. ET to discuss the crisis at NATO headquarters in Brussels, Belgium.

While no public accusations of blame were made by the U.S. government, senior officials, along with experts on terrorism, were unanimous in their belief that the attacks were the work of Osama bin Laden, the Saudi exile who leads the shadowy Al-Qaeda terrorist organization. "No one else but Bin Laden has the capability to do this is Bin Laden," one senior intelligence official said. "No one."

Bin Laden is living in Afghanistan as a guest of the Islamic regime there, the Taliban. The United States already has warned the Taliban that any act of terrorism on American soil by bin Laden or his followers would be regarded as an act of war.

That said, exactly how to hit out at bin Laden has been a continuing problem for the United States. U.S. intelligence agencies once tracked his movements within Afghanistan fairly reliably by eavesdropping on cell phone communications. Bin Laden has long since stopped using cell phones and is now said to sleep in a different safe house each night. Three years ago, after the dual bombings at American embassies in Kenya and Mozambique were tied to Al-Qaeda, the United States launched Tomahawk cruise missiles at suspected bin Laden training camps in Afghanistan and a plant in Sudan the CIA suspected of ties with him. Neither air strike did much to dissuade him. The U.S. suspects bin Laden's hand behind the April 2000 attack on the USS destroyer Cole in Yemen.

MILITARY OPTIONS

As President Bush weighs options, the difficulty of pinpointing bin Laden -- if in fact the United States decides he is responsible -- presents a dilemma. Among the options under active consideration:

Major retaliatory airstrikes: The United States could strike at Afghanistan with missile strikes -- possibly even tactical nuclear weapons -- to demonstrate its anger and the grave consequences of such an attack on U.S. soil.

Military invasion: The president could declare war on Afghanistan and order a buildup of forces similar to that which preceded the Gulf War in 1990. Such a move, however, would require the acquiescence of a neighboring state -- either Pakistan or one of the former Soviet Central Asian nations.

Manhunt: The Army's Delta Force or other assets could be inserted into Afghanistan to hunt down Bin Laden.

Proxy action: The United States could exert extreme diplomatic pressure on Pakistan and Saudi Arabia, two states that have supported the Afghan Taliban in the past, to bring Bin Laden to justice.

'NO EASY ANSWERS'

Each and every one of these options has drawbacks, however, and those potential pitfalls will animate the debates of the coming days within the U.S. national security establishment. For instance, the use of nuclear weapons, in any form, risks alienating a world that is almost united in its revulsion at such attacks -- and whose help will be necessary in preventing future such attacks.

"The worst thing we can do is to completely lose our cool and overreact," said Sean Anderson, domestic terrorism expert at Idaho State University who studied the Oklahoma City bombing and the first attack on the World Trade Center in 1993.

"The best thing we can do is carry on, not to depart from our ordinary constitutional legal processes ... get the markets open today and carry on with our lives."

Indeed, it is quite possible the United States will refrain from any immediate action until investigators have time to more thoroughly make the case against whoever directed the attack.

"There are not a lot of easy answers," former Secretary of State James Baker told NBC News. "The president, I think, did the right thing when he said 'we're under terrorist attack and we're going to hunt down those responsible.' "

My thoughts. (2, Insightful)

ChrisPaget (229422) | about 13 years ago | (#2281855)

I'm not american. I'm british. I work 100 yards from the London Stock Exchange, which was evacuated - so were we, by our MD. I was scared shitless. I can't imagine how you're feeling in the US. This has proved to the entire world that nowhere is safe from terrorism.

My suggestion? I assume that there will be a fund set up to help those injured in these attacks, and their families. It may have been set up already. My suggestion - donate your tax rebates to this fund. I received a tax rebate from the UK government a couple of weeks ago - I intend to donate mine. It's the least I can do.
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