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Not A Hoverboard, but Close (Video)

Roblimo posted about 2 months ago | from the if-one-wheel-is-$1500,-does-the-two-wheeled-version-cost-$3000? dept.

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It's a one-wheeled, self-balancing electric skateboard called (appropriately) the Onewheel. You can't buy one right now. They've already shipped all of their first production runs and still have Kickstarter backers' orders to fulfill. After that, though, they might make one for you -- if you come up with a deposit of $500 against a total price of $1499. Plus shipping. This may seem like a lot of money to some people, but enough folks have found it reasonable that Onewheel has sold out not just its first production run but also the second one. Their Kickstarter success was nothing short of amazing, with $630,862 raised although their goal was only $100,000. Inventor Kyle Doerksen is the man behind Onewheel, but he's also one of the people behind Faraday Bicycles, whose flagship model costs $3500 -- and whose initial production run is also sold out -- which means there are people around who are willing to pay $3500 for an electric bicycle instead of putting a motor kit on a used Schwinn for a total cost of less than $500 (with a little careful shopping). Alternate video link.

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Segway replacement? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47122815)

Woot! I have been waiting to upgrade my Segway to something else.

BTW- link is slashdotted.

Flash? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47122851)

"Flash is required to see this content."
My apologies, but what is Flash???

Re:Flash? (1, Offtopic)

Arker (91948) | about 2 months ago | (#47123069)

A trojan. Just say no.

Re:Flash? (3, Funny)

iggymanz (596061) | about 2 months ago | (#47123223)

Flash: if someone runs up to you, and opens their overcoat, and you find they are naked underneath, and then that person closes their overcoat and runs away, you have been flashed.

Just gotta ask (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47122901)

Am I the only one that hates sideways going things (skateboards, surfboards, this, etc) in favor of front-to-back things (rollerblades, skiis, bikes, etc)?

It looks cool, but then it's that whole weird sideways shit.

Re:Just gotta ask (1)

Drethon (1445051) | about 2 months ago | (#47122947)

Seems like something with rolling motion would be a pain to ride front to back, without handlebars (segway) anyway...

Re:Just gotta ask (1)

Disperz (818430) | about 2 months ago | (#47123073)

Not too bad if it's self-balancing, like this unicycle. [youtube.com]

Re:Just gotta ask (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 months ago | (#47123903)

I've tried both this and the actual device that's called The One Wheel (law suit pending I'm sure) which has pegs on the side instead. That is MUCH easier to balance. I have exceptional balance but I strongly preferred this one. [urbangliders.com] Oh and it's half the price and uses the same battery and charging system. That one had quicker acceleration too because you didn't risk scraping any structure on the back.

Re:Just gotta ask (1)

pnutjam (523990) | about 2 months ago | (#47128031)

Oh, I definitely see a lawsuit, they copied that straight out of b.c. [jhscomics.com]

Re:Just gotta ask (1)

gl4ss (559668) | about 2 months ago | (#47123027)

dunno, put a chair on it.

anyhow, you Could stand on it with the feet facing same direction one after one I suppose(if it was not for that one switch anyways). but it wouldn't be so good position to ride.

anyways, it looks like a fun toy. don't know many so hipster friendly cities where you could substitute a bike with it(pedalled or motored). I mean, you could probably commute with it if your office was at the gate of your so called gated community but going over walkways or going among bikes with it?

Re:Just gotta ask (1)

Urquhardt (3529035) | about 2 months ago | (#47123477)

Like a crab, except on wheels!

Re:Just gotta ask (1)

braindrainbahrain (874202) | about 2 months ago | (#47123583)

Yea, I think I would prefer a Solowheel [inventist.com] .

Re:Just gotta ask (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47125489)

I prefer, you know, legs. But then again, I'm not american, so I don't have this inbuilt desire for obesity or inability to use my own muscles.

Re:Just gotta ask (1)

razorh (853659) | about 2 months ago | (#47130201)

I feel the exact opposite. Snowboards, skateboards, wakeboards = yay... ski's etc. = nay.

Need another hamster. (3)

drainbramage (588291) | about 2 months ago | (#47122911)

The one wheel powering the website seems to be stuck.

Lunarpages used to be good (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 months ago | (#47125991)

But they aren't now.

I left them, and went to justhost. Which isn't good now either.

Now I'm using nosupportlinuxhosting, which leaves many things to be desired. It's not just no support, it's no support for anything not supported by mainline cpanel. That's kind of annoying. But it's cheap as shit. That makes it more palatable. Nobody would eat at taco bell if you couldn't spange for it.

Re:Lunarpages used to be good (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47126167)

cool story bro, tell it again.

Re:Lunarpages used to be good (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 2 months ago | (#47127689)

cool story bro, tell it again.

Lunarpages used to be good, but they aren't now.

I left them, and went to justhost. Which isn't good now either.

Now I'm using nosupportlinuxhosting, which leaves many things to be desired. It's not just no support, it's no support for anything not supported by mainline cpanel. That's kind of annoying. But it's cheap as shit. That makes it more palatable. Nobody would eat at taco bell if you couldn't spange for it.

Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (5, Insightful)

phorm (591458) | about 2 months ago | (#47123005)

Not A Hoverboard, but Close

This is no closer to a hoverboard than a skateboard is. Seriously, a hoverboard is a futuristic technology which through some form of anti-gravity field or whatever FLOATS IN THE FRICKING AIR. This is essentially a cross between a skateboard and a segway. Cool, but still attached to the ground.

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (5, Insightful)

infogulch (1838658) | about 2 months ago | (#47123087)

The benefits of a hoverboard over a skateboard include being a smoother ride, being able to navigate over rougher terrain, requiring less manual pushing, and, well, just straight up flying.

While Onewheel doesn't exactly fly, it does cover the other three benefits (and on manual pushing, it's even better than Marty's), so I think it's fair to call it the closest thing to hoverboards yet.

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47124383)

Call me when it rides over water.

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (1)

Andtalath (1074376) | about 2 months ago | (#47145787)

Marty's didn't.

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47125831)

No... it's not even in the same ballpark

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47128425)

The benefits of a hoverboard over a skateboard include being a smoother ride, being able to navigate over rougher terrain, requiring less manual pushing, and, well, just straight up flying.

While Onewheel doesn't exactly fly, it does cover the other three benefits (and on manual pushing, it's even better than Marty's), so I think it's fair to call it the closest thing to hoverboards yet.

The difference between a wheeled vehicle and an airplane is the airfoil, not the number of wheels or a list of "benefits" you just made up right now. A motorcycle is not anywhere closer to an airplane than a car.

The closest thing to a "true" hovercraft is an air-cushion craft. When people say "hovercraft" we mean a fucking anti-gravity type device which doesn't need to use a wheel, a wing, a rotor, propeller, rocket, or any other traditional thrust mechanism to stay off the ground. Magnetics are acceptable as long as they don't require a track. A mag-lev is currently the closest technology to true "hover" tech as envisioned by sci-fi, and shown in movies like Back to the 80's Future.
So no, this isn't any closer at all, it's just another case of someone using the word "hovercraft" to get media attention and page hits for their pet inventions.

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (5, Funny)

mythosaz (572040) | about 2 months ago | (#47123113)

This is no closer to a hoverboard than a skateboard is.

It's three wheels closer.

Just one to go.

75% of the way, by any logical measure.

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (0)

David_Hart (1184661) | about 2 months ago | (#47123411)

This is no closer to a hoverboard than a skateboard is.

It's three wheels closer.

Just one to go.

75% of the way, by any logical measure.

Um... No... Not even 1% closer.... You do realize that hovering in mid-air is completely different than any wheeled application and requires new technology.

Reducing the wheels from 4 small wheels to 1 big wheel gets you no closer to a hover board than going from a rotary dialed wired phone to a touch tone wired phone got us to a cell phone. The cell phone required a completely different technology than a wired phone, no matter how fancy.

If this had been an article about a skate board that floated over a specialized magnetic surface, then I would agree that some progress was being made...

In my opinion this is somewhat interesting but the comparison to a hover board is simply being used as click bait...

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47123481)

woosh

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (3, Insightful)

mythosaz (572040) | about 2 months ago | (#47123513)

Lighten up, Francis.

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (1)

David_Hart (1184661) | about 2 months ago | (#47123635)

Lighten up, Francis.

Not my fault that someone forgot to add their sarcasm tag.... ;-)

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47124059)

Hey McFly you bojo! Sarcasm don't work on the internet!

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (1)

TonTonKill (907928) | about 2 months ago | (#47125459)

75% of the way, by any logical measure.

You are mistaken, in the hoverboard formula the variable representing the number of wheels is in the denominator. The work required to reduce it from 1 to 0 is infinitely more than the work required to reduce it from 4 to 1, and the closer you get the greater the possibility that your body mass will be instantly converted to dark matter and equally distributed across the universe.

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 months ago | (#47123919)

I happen to know this one supports approx a 350 lb person though and technically you're riding on air (inside a tire, lol).

Re:Not an advertisement... but er, yes, yes it is (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47127919)

We really need to get over this fixation with the hoverboard. Sure, in BTTF2/3 it was a cool gimmick and plot device, but in spite of the fact that we're less than a year away from 2015, it's just not going to happen any time soon. The biggest drawback to a hoverboard is the lack of friction (or some force) to hold it in place. Just try stepping onto a platform with no friction between it and the ground. Your feet will go right out from under you, and your center of mass will impact the ground in a firm and probably unpleasant way. With a regular skateboard or even this OneWheel, you have friction in at least one direction. Then there's the software to control the motion of the OneWheel's one wheel (oh, hey, I just got that!).

Maybe the fictional Barbie (tm) hoverboard from BTTF had (will have had?) some other magical anti-grav force that can (will have could?) be used to steady it, and complex software that somehow understands which direction the user wants to go, rather than which direction it is being pushed, but for now it's just a cool fictional device, like warp drive or sexually active geeks.

/.ed in 2014 WOW! (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47123031)

How lame if you can get slash dotted in 2014 with all the cheap hosting providers we have out there.

For pecular values of close. (1)

gurps_npc (621217) | about 2 months ago | (#47123123)

The difference between one point of contact with the ground and no points of contact is similar to the difference between one government ruling a continent and no governments ruling a continent. It is not similar to the difference between 1 penny and no pennies.

Re:For pecular values of close. (1)

iggymanz (596061) | about 2 months ago | (#47123165)

oh come now, a person with one cent to their name is infinitely more rich than a person with zero cents to their name

Re:For pecular values of close. (1)

David_Hart (1184661) | about 2 months ago | (#47123449)

oh come now, a person with one cent to their name is infinitely more rich than a person with zero cents to their name

Only in the world of mathematicians and statisticians.

In the real world, both would starve to death in the same amount of time (excluding the possibility that the cent is composed of either a precious metal or is a collector's item that would net the owner a sum larger than 1 cent).

Re:For pecular values of close. (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 2 months ago | (#47126465)

How about having one trillon dollar coin, and no trillion dollar coins? Is it the same then? Oooh, can I call it the Obama Penny?

Re:For pecular values of close. (1)

MillionthMonkey (240664) | about 2 months ago | (#47126217)

Until the IRS realizes the irich guy never paid the income tax on that penny.

In what way is that close to a hoverboard? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47123235)

And in what way is this better than the wheelgo [wheelgo.com] ?

Re:In what way is that close to a hoverboard? (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 months ago | (#47123907)

Well, it has not lost video to a copyright complaint...

But if you ever do find a video of the "WheelGo" in action, you'll notice it seems a hell of a lot less easy to maintain balance than the One Wheel. I'd be scared as hell to get on that WheelGo thing or anything like it, and I can use a Segway just fine.

Patented (1)

TRRosen (720617) | about 2 months ago | (#47123295)

Doesn't Segway have a patent on this already?

Re:Patented (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47123707)

on gyroscopes? I doubt it.

Re:Patented (1)

TRRosen (720617) | about 2 months ago | (#47126165)

No on the design.

nowhere close (1, Insightful)

akirapill (1137883) | about 2 months ago | (#47123421)

This is not anything even remotely close to a hoverboard. Even more shameless than those cars with fold-out wings that people try to pass off as 'flying cars'.

rideonewheel.com link? (1)

OakDragon (885217) | about 2 months ago | (#47123533)

Looks like they also sell web hosting!

way overpriced, here's the real one (3)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 months ago | (#47123601)

My friend actually is importing from the same supplier as The One Wheel so it's literally the same device. Since he's just one ex computer technician in one location, he's selling em for like $750 or something. I tried it and it kicks ass. It's not hard to balance but then again I'm really good at kickboxing and dance dance revolution lol. Check his out at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]
and
http://urbangliders.com/ [urbangliders.com]

Re:way overpriced, here's the real one (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 months ago | (#47123719)

I just realized that the video features the revised edition of The One Wheel and their website is down but take my work for it, their original prototype (which btw is bullshit, a Chinese company invented it) is actually the same body and engine and charger as the Urban Glider.

Re:way overpriced, here's the real one (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 2 months ago | (#47123875)

Sorry but that looks way less practical and usable than the One Wheel skateboard-esque design, even if it uses some of the same parts. Watch the One Wheel [youtube.com] Kickstarter video to compare.

In your video you can see the woman just barely maintaining balance... and the people riding it have to stand stock still apparently or all is lost.

Re:way overpriced, here's the real one (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 months ago | (#47124939)

After like a day you get 100% used to it and at that point, the control and safety is superior to other models I tested. This and the One Wheel are both hard to crash but once you get enough skill to never crash, the urban glider has better precision control. I have a feeling that the One Wheel simply couldn't get their gyroscope working.

Re:way overpriced, here's the real one (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47124333)

yaaaay.... another solowheel rip-off with less reliable and more dangerous battery...

http://inventist.com/soloindex.php

Re:way overpriced, here's the real one (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 months ago | (#47124925)

Same battery, bro. Same manufacturer.

NO, No its not even close (3, Insightful)

maliqua (1316471) | about 2 months ago | (#47123839)

Ok if you want to build up to something and guarantee it's a disappointment you found the perfect marketing strategy.

Re:NO, No its not even close (1)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 months ago | (#47123923)

...and then crash your website by going over its bandwidth limit :P

Re:NO, No its not even close (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47124029)

i condemn this with the collective disappointment of every back to the future fan ever born

Re:NO, No its not even close (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47126271)

Ok if you want to build up to something and guarantee it's a disappointment you found the perfect marketing strategy.

Read the /. comments and you'll see there is a sucker for everything/anything that 'looks cool'. Multiply that with the goons in the US/World that obsess over buying anything before anyone else, that is also obsessed with worthless junk, and it doesnt take a genius to figure out how to create get-rich-quick scams.

He created the Faraday Bicycle for f**k sake, another unoriginal cheap idea that has already been around since electricity. How many TV adverts are there other worthless junk that people buy up, and the ones that actually have everyday practical function are so simple it actually pisses me off, because anyone could have made it, but only one guy/gal actually did it, however this guy isn't one of those.

One hit wonders that will go into the history of 'cool tech thingy' that failed.

Re:NO, No its not even close (1)

Roblimo (357) | about 2 months ago | (#47126495)

(shrug) This thing struck me as something an Audi buyer would want. I have a bike, but due to recent balance problems I have "stabilizer wheels" (adult training wheels) on it. Tomorrow my banana seat and sissy bar kit is supposed to get here. Crank-forward bikes cost mucho buckaroonies, so I figure a banana seat will give me an ass-back seating position and provide similar goodness for my old, messed-up knees. End result, hopefully finished by this weekend: A lowrider Aluminum (Schwinn) beach cruiser with training wheels. One of a kind. Cost? Not enough to buy ANY of these electric skateboard thingies. Not even close.

ummm (1)

Charliemopps (1157495) | about 2 months ago | (#47124245)

Ok, I'm going to ignore the fact that this has absolutely nothing to do with a hoverboard...

But doesn't this entire premise seem sketchy to anyone else?
Look at the build quality.
To me, that looks like 2 pieces of angle iron, attached by 2 pieces of plywood (where your feet go) with a go cart wheel in the center
Looking at google images of it, that looks to me to be exactly what it is, but the angle iron might be aluminum instead
I'm not sure if the motor really is in the hub, or it's that little black box attached to the frame... either way there's no way it could be big enough to provide much torque. I also see no video of it speeding up or breaking.
Supposedly it can do 12mph... oh really? Down hill? Speaking of downhill... how good is it at braking downhill? Am I going to end up blowing through an intersection?

It all comes down to that motor. I can find no specs or pictures of it.
I did however find this photo which is the most interesting I think:
http://skateandannoy.com/wp-co... [skateandannoy.com]
Notice the 2nd pic... a Chain drive to a giant gear. So torque clearly is an issue.
Maybe electric motors have made enormous leaps and bounds but I just don't buy it.

Re:ummm (2)

slashmydots (2189826) | about 2 months ago | (#47124411)

This is a modified product and the original is actually called The One Wheel (or Urban Glider or one of 6 other names since it's a Chinese import). This is a double the price rip off of it. It has a balancing gyroscope that makes it not torque you off backwards or torque steer into a tree. It also has an engine-braking limiter for downhill. Like 35 degrees though and you'd still die before the bottom, lol. It's virtually impossible to crash this thing. I tried. I couldn't crash it. I was riding the original though, which is a side-pegged one instead of front to back. If I recall, it's well over 1000 watts total output. The battery is pretty bad ass and the charger requires its own cooling fan and draws like 8 amps or something. So trust me, power isn't a big thing. To be sporty, I wish it went faster but the manufacturer said that any more power would not be able to be compensated by the gyroscope. In other words, it'd kick you off if it had more power. But it seriously feels pretty fast.

Re:ummm (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47127523)

"Notice the 2nd pic... a Chain drive to a giant gear. So torque clearly is an issue."

No, I didn't make it to the second pic. After ogling the bronze legs on the hunny in the first photo, I noticed the side nipple shadow and creamed my pants.

Better skateboard (1)

El_Oscuro (1022477) | about 2 months ago | (#47124881)

If you are going to blow a lot of money on a skateboard, check out [boostedboards.com] one of these. [silverfish...arding.com]

Americans... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47125475)

Americans, bringing everyone closer to obesity since 1776.

Looks remarkably like something I saw years ago (1)

Whorhay (1319089) | about 2 months ago | (#47126233)

http://www.instructables.com/i... [instructables.com]

I think that is the one I read about before.

Lots of these in China...yawn. (1)

Rick in China (2934527) | about 2 months ago | (#47126825)

There are lots of gizmos and gadgets dumped on the market in China. I've seen several instances where US/other companies take given gadgets, rename, and slang 'em on the local market at well jacked up prices with the addition of going through regulatory/inspection procedures as required. There are tons of little single wheel with pegs devices I see people zipping around on, I just google'd for image and this came up: http://www.airebike.com/airwhe... [airebike.com] It's equally hoverboard-like. By which I mean absolutely nothing hoverboard like and deceptive to even mention 'hover' in the title.

Ohh that open wheel design (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47127199)

How long until we hear about kids losing their toes while riding one of these and the inventor spending the rest of his life in prison?

Captcha: tragedy :)

Not a Hoverboard? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47132577)

I think you mean, "Not a Skateboard, But Close".
It is not even a little close to a Hoverboard.

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