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Zazzle.com Thinks Depictions of Pi Are Protected Intellectual Property

Soulskill posted about 2 months ago | from the attention-i-have-trademarked-the-space-between-letters-please-stop-using-it dept.

Math 264

Byteme writes: "A number of Zazzle.com users have had their art and products removed from the site after a man named Paul Ingrisano was granted a trademark for 'Pi Productions' using a logo that consists of this freely available version of the pi symbol from the Wikimedia website combined with a period. He made infringement claims against several websites, and Zazzle took down many clothing products that featured designs using the pi symbol. When users called them on it, they locked a public forum thread and said they're evaluating Ingrisano's complaint."

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264 comments

damn (5, Funny)

zlives (2009072) | about 2 months ago | (#47129463)

i better get to work on my "/." logo copy right

Laugh at race and we can stop fighting about it! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129487)

So this little black boy was in the kitchen while his mama was baking a cake. The boy gets a bunch of flour and throws it all over his face and says "look mama, I is a white boy!" She didn't like this AT ALL so she slaps him! He goes in another room to his grandma and says "look grandma, I's a white boy!" and she didn't like that either, no not one bit, so she slaps him! Finally he goes upstairs and finds his older sister and says "hey look, I is a white boy!" and she slaps him too!

He goes back to his mama and says "mom I only been a white boy for a few minutes and already I hate you niggers!"

Re:damn (2)

LifesABeach (234436) | about 2 months ago | (#47129923)

I guess Paul Ingrisano will go after those Greeks in the EU next?

Re:damn (2)

Mirar (264502) | about 2 months ago | (#47130153)

EU actually have comparably working IP laws. And we point and laugh at your problems.

That is, unless they get something like ACTA through EU parliament. Then we'll have it too.

Re:damn (-1, Flamebait)

CauseBy (3029989) | about 2 months ago | (#47130245)

Great. Now that you have your IP laws in order, you should probably get around to doing away with your kings and queens. It's been embarrassing to have them for over two hundred years now. While you're at it, drop your official state religions, so you can go from being theocratic monarchies to secular democracies.

But yeah, super great that your trademark laws are so flexible.

Prior Art Exists. (3, Funny)

swschrad (312009) | about 2 months ago | (#47129473)

God invented Pi. don't get his lawyers into this...

Re:Prior Art Exists. (5, Funny)

Infoport (935541) | about 2 months ago | (#47129641)

You would think so, but unfortunately all the good lawyers went somewhere else...

Re:Prior Art Exists. (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129645)

God invented Pi. don't get his lawyers into this...

God has no lawyers. They're all in Hell.

Re:Prior Art Exists. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47130231)

You obviously haven't read the bible.

Re:Prior Art Exists. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129655)

Which god?

Re:Prior Art Exists. (4, Informative)

i kan reed (749298) | about 2 months ago | (#47129683)

Actually, the greeks invented the symbol being held as IP.

Re:Prior Art Exists. (3, Funny)

ackthpt (218170) | about 2 months ago | (#47129775)

Paul desperately needs to be kicked into a large, deep pit while someone shouts, "This is Sparta" or suchlike.

Re:Prior Art Exists. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129829)

No, No: somebody should do a little research on this Ingrisano character and let him know that we know where his kids go to school and the route his wife takes to work (if no wife or kids, mom and dad would do, too).

Then smile.

Scum like this deserve no better

Re:Prior Art Exists. (2)

NotSanguine (1917456) | about 2 months ago | (#47130019)

No, No: somebody should do a little research on this Ingrisano character and let him know that we know where his kids go to school and the route his wife takes to work (if no wife or kids, mom and dad would do, too).

Then smile.

Scum like this deserve no better

Stalking [correctionhistory.org] is a crime in New York State. The behavior you suggest clearly falls under NY State's Stalking law.

While it's unlikely you would end up in State PMITA prison (unless you have a previous conviction), you might well end up in NYC PMITA Riker's Island. Which could be a problem, unless you're into that kind of thing.

Re:Prior Art Exists. (2)

ackthpt (218170) | about 2 months ago | (#47130021)

No, No: somebody should do a little research on this Ingrisano character and let him know that we know where his kids go to school and the route his wife takes to work (if no wife or kids, mom and dad would do, too).

Then smile.

Scum like this deserve no better

From the pictures you can find I dunno if he's likely to have a wife or kids...

Re: Prior Art Exists. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47130261)

And now i have beer on my phone, troursers, table and i think the guy next table gÃr some too.

Re:Prior Art Exists. (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about 2 months ago | (#47129783)

Actually, the greeks invented the symbol being held as IP.

Well, the Greek alphabet is based on the Phoenecian [wikipedia.org] alphabet, so possibly even older than that.

Re:Prior Art Exists. (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about 2 months ago | (#47130033)

Actually, the greeks invented the symbol being held as IP.

Well, the Greek alphabet is based on the Phoenecian [wikipedia.org] alphabet, so possibly even older than that.

Nearly as old as Beer?!? That's awesome.

Re:Prior Art Exists. (2)

gstoddart (321705) | about 2 months ago | (#47130141)

Nearly as old as Beer?!? That's awesome.

I'm not sure there's much about humans which is nearly as old as beer ... a lot of people think beer is why humans started farming in the first place. ;-)

Re:Prior Art Exists. (1)

ackthpt (218170) | about 2 months ago | (#47129763)

Greeks invented the Pi character, it's in their alpha bet and much older than Paul the Trademark Troll.

Re:Prior Art Exists. (2)

Mirar (264502) | about 2 months ago | (#47130191)

Quick, someone inform the churches. There's lots of money in this.

How would it infringe? (2)

O('_')O_Bush (1162487) | about 2 months ago | (#47129485)

If the trademark has a period, and the clothing designs etc do not, how does Dazzle justify that being a trademark infringement?

  Because if that is legal, I am going to trademark ng on red signs with STOP on them and sue the gov't for using something too similar.

Free market strikes again... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129545)

NOT.

(For those of you who think that crony capitalism is the same thing as capitalism, you'd better go and review the difference between free trade and coercive prohibitions on free trade.)

Re:Free market strikes again... (3)

retchdog (1319261) | about 2 months ago | (#47129889)

we don't think it's the same thing. put briefly, we just think that your fairy tale pure capitalism can't exist, and that its supporters are naive dupes of the cronies and neo-feudalists.

Re:Free market strikes again... (2)

Rockoon (1252108) | about 2 months ago | (#47129909)

we just think that your fairy tale pure capitalism can't exist

....so long as the statists continue to defend ever increasing amounts of regulation with bullshit arguments like this, sure.

Re:Free market strikes again... (3, Interesting)

gstoddart (321705) | about 2 months ago | (#47130115)

....so long as the statists continue to defend ever increasing amounts of regulation with bullshit arguments like this, sure.

Yawn ... do you know what you would have without a state? Nothing.

You wouldn't have an education, running water, roads, a hospital to have been born in, or an internet to use to bitch about the state. You'd probably be someone's property.

You know what they call people who want to overthrow the state? Terrorists.

You might choose to call yourself a revolutionary. Go ahead. You'd be in good company with Chairman Mao, Pol Pot, and Joseph Stalin.

And, you'll probably whine about how the state does everything with a gun pointed to your head. If it wasn't the state, it would be someone else.

And what you're idealizing is pointing a gun to the head of everyone else and saying they must accept your wonderfully deluded reality. Again, just like Chairman Mao et al ... if we could only force the masses to see how divinely right we are, they would understand. But if they won't understand on their own, they must be made to understand.

Bravo, sir.

Re:Free market strikes again... (1)

jythie (914043) | about 2 months ago | (#47130249)

Sometimes a state does need to be overthrown, but it is always replaced with another one (which hopefully is better, often is worse).

Re:Free market strikes again... (3, Funny)

OakDragon (885217) | about 2 months ago | (#47130199)

we just think that your fairy tale pure capitalism can't exist, and that its supporters are naive dupes of the cronies and neo-feudalists.

I thought we were an autonomous collective.

Re:How would it infringe? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129599)

Because of confusing similarity [wikipedia.org] .

Captcha: illegal, how apt.

Re:How would it infringe? (4, Insightful)

Luthair (847766) | about 2 months ago | (#47129629)

Zazzle is probably erring on the side of not getting sued.

Re:How would it infringe? (3, Informative)

Frosty Piss (770223) | about 2 months ago | (#47130085)

Zazzle is probably erring on the side of not getting sued.

By someone who probably can't afford a decent lawyer to bring a case that would be quickly tossed out of court?

No, Zazzle is simply a bunch of lazy ass wipes.

Solution: Don't use their site. I certainly never have....

Re:How would it infringe? (1)

jythie (914043) | about 2 months ago | (#47130265)

Defending is typically more expensive then brining a suit, so even if the individual does not have the resources to make things really difficult for them, the potential for having to respond to a case probably still gives them pause, esp if they person plays some jurisdiction tricks. An individual with too much free time and a little legal knowledge can wage a pretty asymmetric attack which, while harmless to big companies, can really drain smaller ones.

Re:How would it infringe? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47130221)

Zazzle is probably erring on the side of being douchenozzles.

Re:How would it infringe? (2)

phantomfive (622387) | about 2 months ago | (#47130053)

If the trademark has a period, and the clothing designs etc do not, how does Dazzle justify that being a trademark infringement?

The question with trademarks is not, "are they exactly the same?" The question is, "are they close enough that people would get confused?"

This is different than patents, where it must follow the exact rules laid out in the claims.

It is also different than copyright, where even if it looks completely different, it still might be a derivative work.

Re:How would it infringe? (1)

jythie (914043) | about 2 months ago | (#47130229)

What they think is not the dominant factor. They generally have less risk if they comply and then people fight then if they ignore or discount an IP claim since then the complainer could potentially claim they are not honoring safe harbor and get the actual law involved. By complying (as a private site) they keep things internal and the legal system off their back.

Re:How would it infringe? (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 2 months ago | (#47130255)

I dont think you understand how trademarks work.

You can trademark things that exist in the real world, and have been around forever; Microsoft has trademarked "Windows" in the context of computing. That doesnt mean they can sue anyone with a window, or even anyone who used "Windows" commercially; it would have to meet the criteria for trademark infringement, which includes being in the same industry and being potentially misleading to consumers.

Pi R Protected (0, Flamebait)

SpankiMonki (3493987) | about 2 months ago | (#47129495)

My PI hole sez no. (don't ask what my CORN hole sez)

Re:Pi R Protected (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129781)

What are you, five?

Re:Pi R Protected (2)

SpankiMonki (3493987) | about 2 months ago | (#47129831)

nine

Re:Pi R Protected (1)

SpankiMonki (3493987) | about 2 months ago | (#47129867)

oh wait...NEIN!

Re:Pi R Protected (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129789)

Your corn hole is just spewing rancid shit...

Re:Pi R Protected (1)

SpankiMonki (3493987) | about 2 months ago | (#47129849)

like yours? our is your CORN hole special?

Re:Pi R Protected (1)

SpankiMonki (3493987) | about 2 months ago | (#47129919)

mine is. according to your mom anyways

Re:Pi R Protected (1)

SpankiMonki (3493987) | about 2 months ago | (#47129931)

suer duper

lol (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129509)

1st: 'anonymous coward'? heh. i never come to this site but now, so its not worth my time or effort to remember another nic n pw for somewhere ill prolly never go.

2nd: ya this guy has no grounds for his claims if that is a freely available pic; as long as those items for sale dont have the dumb little period on it (and why would they unless he made them), there is no claim to be made there.

Switch to Tau (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129521)

Lets kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

1. Fuck that guy.

2. Lets switch to Tau http://tauday.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tau

Damn these (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129525)

(pi)ssant capitalists... anything to make a buck.

Which trademark? (2)

snsh (968808) | about 2 months ago | (#47129531)

The original deep link to USPTO.GOV is broken. Are we talking about registration# 4473631? That specifically covers the stylized "pi mathematical symbol followed by a period." There is no exclusive right given for the symbol pi by itself or in other contexts.

Re:Which trademark? (1)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 2 months ago | (#47129671)

Shari on her blog [ribbitsandtiaras.com] has a cached image [wordpress.com]

Rewriting textbooks (4, Funny)

marciot (598356) | about 2 months ago | (#47129929)

That specifically covers the stylized "pi mathematical symbol followed by a period."

Oh dear. I guess we'll have to fix all textbooks to remove infringing uses of pi at the end of a sentence..

Example of infringing use:

The ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter is .

Non-infringing alternatives:

The ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter is !
The ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter is :)
, what the ratio of a circle's circumference to its diameter is.

 

Re:Which trademark? (4, Interesting)

Jason Levine (196982) | about 2 months ago | (#47129943)

This is the trademark: http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=85785006&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch [uspto.gov]

It's for the Pi symbol followed by a period. Literally. "The mark consists of the pi mathematical symbol followed by a period." So if I had a shirt that said "I like Pi." (using the symbol for Pi), my shirt would be in violation of his trademark. Furthermore, he might try claiming that just showing Pi by itself would be "confusingly similar." Not that he'd be successful, but he could threaten lawsuits which might make others back down due to an inability to fight a legal battle.

He's also filed for the common Internet "I Love" shorthand: I <3 http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=85481027&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch [uspto.gov]

As he doesn't currently seem to be USING these trademarks at all, he should automatically lose all rights to them.

Re:Which trademark? (3)

gstoddart (321705) | about 2 months ago | (#47130237)

So if I had a shirt that said "I like Pi." (using the symbol for Pi), my shirt would be in violation of his trademark.

Except, it wouldn't.

The trademark prevents you from using it as a clothing brand identifier.

Having it be incidentally used on clothing is not infringing. This guy seems to think it is, but it doesn't work that way.

I don't think he's got a leg to stand on, but the problem with this stuff is it costs time and money in the form of lawyers to prove that.

This is just further evidence the USPTO are morons.

Pi (1)

Mary Baum (3675445) | about 2 months ago | (#47129561)

That's a lotta textbook publishers to sue right there. They have deep pockets.

Sue everybody ... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about 2 months ago | (#47129595)

Fraternities ... mathematicians ... physicists ... the universe.

Whatever moron gave a trademark on the symbol for pi should be staked to an anthill.

Re:Sue everybody ... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about 2 months ago | (#47129609)

After receiving a honey enema.

Re:Sue everybody ... (1)

zlives (2009072) | about 2 months ago | (#47129689)

ouch

Re:Sue everybody ... (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about 2 months ago | (#47129795)

There's no required approval for a trademark.

A registed trademark needs approval. Who does so depends upon country. But not all trademarks are registered. A non-registered trademark is claimed simply by using it, declaring it a trademark and putting the little (tm) symbol after it.

Re:Sue everybody ... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about 2 months ago | (#47129817)

There's no required approval for a trademark.

Then why on Earth would it have any legal standing?

If your trademark is non-registered, I should think you've legally got nothing.

Otherwise you could decree anything is a trademark and sue anybody you like, and there would be no legal basis for determining if you're full of shit.

Has anyone checked... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129597)

There is a lot of (justifiable) outrage at the troll/pirate who filed the copyright. Frankly, it's ridiculous that it was granted in the first place. But this shocked disbelief at Zazzle or other sites for not accepting the risk of possibly infringing on a copyright claim is just as ridiculous.

TFA mentioned affected customers of the Zazzle service filing a class-action lawsuit to re-coup lost revenue. Granted, I haven't read the Zazzle terms of service, but unless there is some sort of contract in place, people seem to be forgetting that as an independent business, Zazzle is under no obligation to print any of your crappy t-shirts. That's the free market at work.

Just as when YouTube pulls content, they are making a decision to save themselves a potentially expensive hassle by pissing off some of their customer base. If people don't like it, the answer is to find another platform, not try to resort to a lawsuit.

Re:Has anyone checked... (1)

JohnFen (1641097) | about 2 months ago | (#47129635)

Trademark, not copyright. Different rules apply.

Re:Has anyone checked... (1)

mmell (832646) | about 2 months ago | (#47129735)

Zazzle.com has no real choice but to lock this down until the legal dust settles. Unfortunately, the law is still scrambling to catch up with technology. We end up with POS legislation (such as the DMCA, for example) - legislation designed to protect government and business interests at the expense of individuals (end-users).

It does no good to note that Zazzle has "caved" in to protecting their existence against a seemingly nonsensical legal challenge. How can we fix this situation?

Re:Has anyone checked... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47130101)

Actually, they do have a choice. Besides, this is a trademark issue, not a copyright one. The DMCA doesn't apply.

Anyone notice... (3, Insightful)

barlevg (2111272) | about 2 months ago | (#47129601)

his initials, Paul Ingrisano

Re:Anyone notice... (1)

Brett Buck (811747) | about 2 months ago | (#47129613)

Uh, yeah, I think we got that. But I am skeptical that this gives him proprietary rights to a symbol created something like 3000 years ago.

Re:Anyone notice... (2)

oodaloop (1229816) | about 2 months ago | (#47129695)

Uh, actually, I didn't get it until barlevg pointed it out. Yes, I feel stupid.

Re:Anyone notice... (1)

zlives (2009072) | about 2 months ago | (#47129709)

following the OPs logic, Peter Inserter (real name i swear) can now file for similar rights and sue Paul Ingrisano, since prior art doesn't seem to be a consideration

Re:Anyone notice... (1)

DoofusOfDeath (636671) | about 2 months ago | (#47129669)

his initials, Paul Ingrisano

I think Thomas Magnum would like a word with him.

I 3 (2)

Shortguy881 (2883333) | about 2 months ago | (#47129607)

Paul Ingrisano also owns "I 3" ..... Yeah ok.

fuck this guy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129865)

The judge should void the trademark and decree that he have " JACKASS " tattooed on his forehead as a warning to others. Also for the nimrod that approved such a flimsy trademark claim in the first place.

Re:I 3 (1)

pr0fessor (1940368) | about 2 months ago | (#47129941)

I saw that and thought I just saw that shirt the other day but it wasn't his.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/produ... [thinkgeek.com]

Streisand Effect (0)

TonyXL (33244) | about 2 months ago | (#47129701)

This guy is seriously in need of a Streisand-ing. Can we find contact info and/or a review page we can hit?

I am jumping on this bandwagon... (1)

Peter L. Berghold (3639725) | about 2 months ago | (#47129717)

.... and claiming omega as a trademark! :-D What's a good Greek letter for a beer brewery to claim? (Salty Cowdawg Brewery)

Re:I am jumping on this bandwagon... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | about 2 months ago | (#47129761)

Well, it's a trademark, so it's only applicable in the specific area in which you do business ... so I recommend pi. ;-)

Re:I am jumping on this bandwagon... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129847)

Well then I'll get the rest of the Greek alphabet and the Roman, Hebrew and Cyrillic ones as well. We could write a program to automate trademarking all of the symbols in LaTex.

You'll meet significant resistance if you do. (1)

mmell (832646) | about 2 months ago | (#47129891)

(n/t)

Almost as retarded as patenting 2 primes ! (1, Offtopic)

UnknownSoldier (67820) | about 2 months ago | (#47129719)

R. Schlafly (1994) obtained U.S. Patent 5373560 on the following two primes (expressed in hexadecimal notation):

        98A3DF52AEAE9799325CB258D767EBD1F4630E9B
        9E21732A4AFB1624BA6DF911466AD8DA960586F4
        A0D5E3C36AF099660BDDC1577E54A9F402334433
        ACB14BCB

and

        93E8965DAFD9DFECFD00B466B68F90EA68AF5DC9
        FED915278D1B3A137471E65596C37FED0C7829FF
        8F8331F81A2700438ECDCC09447DC397C685F397
        294F722BCC484AEDF28BED25AAAB35D35A65DB1F
        D62C9D7BA55844FEB1F9401E671340933EE43C54
        E4DC459400D7AD61248B83A2624835B31FFF2D95
        95A5B90B276E44F9.

Too bad the general public is too apathetic to see how completely retarded patenting a common mathematical symbol is when the dam thing has been in use for THOUSANDS of years prior.

Reference:

* http://mathworld.wolfram.com/P... [wolfram.com]

Re:Almost as retarded as patenting 2 primes ! (2)

gnupun (752725) | about 2 months ago | (#47129881)

Too bad the general public is too apathetic to see how completely retarded patenting a common mathematical symbol is when the dam thing has been in use for THOUSANDS of years prior.

This is about trademarks, not patents. You're ignorant thinking that trademarks have a limited lifespan -- they are forever [about.com] .

Re:Almost as retarded as patenting 2 primes ! (4, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | about 2 months ago | (#47129897)

Too bad the general public is too apathetic to see how completely retarded patenting a common mathematical symbol

It's also too bad the general public is unaware of the difference between a trademark and a patent. ;-)

Re:Almost as retarded as patenting 2 primes ! (4, Informative)

drstevep (2498222) | about 2 months ago | (#47130027)

Did you seriously read the patent? The patent is using the numbers in one of the claims as part of a mechanism. Schalfly is not patenting the numbers, just their use in a particular process. He is patenting the process, which involves using a designated set of primes to perform iterative calculations to compute "partial modular reduction of cryptographic variables."

The concept (using a designated something as a component in a patented invention) was the same in patent number 1. In this patent, gears and cogs were used to improve the efficiency of locomotives going up hills. What was patented was using gears and cogs in a particular configuration to accomplish a goal. Gears and cogs were not patented. The construction was patented.

The same thing here. The primes are not patented. You are free to use them however you want, as long as you do not use them in this particular machine to compute "partial reduciton[s] of cryptographic variables." Go ahead, use them as seeds in the dice roll generator for your RPG. Use them as dimensions of your mansion's living room. Print them out and use the paper to light a fire. You're allowed.

Going after I 3 next (1)

Jason Levine (196982) | about 2 months ago | (#47129729)

This guy is seriously trademarking the common shorthand for "I love" next: I 3

First Pi (with a period after it) and now I 3. What other common symbols will he attempt to trademark? LOL? RTFA? HTTP?

Re:Going after I 3 next (4, Interesting)

Jason Levine (196982) | about 2 months ago | (#47129813)

Slashdot mucked up the formatting. (Of course, I should have seen this in the preview.)

Just replace "I 3" with "I <3" above.

Also, here's his new trademark: http://trademarks.justia.com/854/81/i-3-85481027.html [justia.com]

Re:Going after I 3 next (1)

Amnenth (698898) | about 2 months ago | (#47129875)

I'm assuming there's a missing < in there? 'I <3'

Re:Going after I 3 next (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47130189)

I don't know. But I'm curious why you questioned laughing after trying to read the fucking article but got a 404 instead?

That will teach those mathematicians (1)

stewsters (1406737) | about 2 months ago | (#47129739)

You can't copyright or patent math, but it seems you can trademark it!

Re:That will teach those mathematicians (2)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about 2 months ago | (#47129821)

You can patent it in the US, but not Europe.

Re:That will teach those mathematicians (1)

wcrowe (94389) | about 2 months ago | (#47129843)

That will teach those mathematicians.

Not to mention the entire Greek population.

Steps (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129755)

1. Lock down post of people bitching.
2. Sue people posting bad reviews on Yelp.
3. Keep fighting.
4. Pretend they've never heard of Barbra Streisand.
5. Keep pretending.
6. Get quiet.
7. Wait.
8. Public apology.
9. Repeat in two years.

IP is putting a full stop to PI. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129759)

Art!

Zazzle.com (4, Insightful)

cstacy (534252) | about 2 months ago | (#47129809)

Zazzle.com. A web site that I've never heard of before, but won't ever be visiting...

Tradmark filing location (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129819)

The filing for the trademark can be found searching google using:
Ingrisano site:.uspto.gov

My New Trademark (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129853)

Introducing my new trademark:
Zazzle.
http://i.imgur.com/XmlkzKv.png

Notice the period on the end... it makes it unique! I will be contacting Zazzle shortly about taking down their entire website.

This is actually for the good of all. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47129983)

This could be the event that moves us all to a Tau-based economy!

Brought to you by the letter E (1)

nurb432 (527695) | about 2 months ago | (#47130031)

So all i need to do is copyright the most commonly used letter, and i'm set for life.

I officially, in public forum, claim the letter E, and any commonly known permutations of it, as my own, and i reserve all rights for its use. Pay up suckers.

Companies try to abuse trademark all the time (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47130041)

Angie's List tried to use threats of a lawsuit to bully me into removing REFERENCES TO THEM from the Internet because I had bad things to say about their double-dipping legalized extortion business model. Companies actually think that they own the things they trademark, as if they can control who says their name. Trademark abuse is a rampant thing, but most people who face it don't say anything publicly because of the fear of actually being sued. I don't have a solution but I can definitely say that Angie's List can shove it up their asses.

Ma Bell Trade Mark Business Case (1)

LifesABeach (234436) | about 2 months ago | (#47130069)

Ma Bell, "AT&T" to the unwashed, used a symbol of a bell in a cricle. They never trade marked it. Then some jack ass trade marked it. AT&T lost the case. I think wistle butt just may a leg to stand on, if a letter can be trade marked.

Prior Art record? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47130109)

FIRST USE ANYWHERE DATE: At least as early as 06/22/2009

Um. Try a few millennium earlier. Try ~800 BCE...

My Pi (1)

El Rey (61125) | about 2 months ago | (#47130145)

All your homework are belong to us.

Misleading headline (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47130271)

My first thought was the decimal approximation done up in some artsy way that would be copyrightable. A non-simple spiral, non-common calligraphy styles, that sort of thing.

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