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Harley-Davidson Unveils Their First Electric Motorcycle

samzenpus posted about 4 months ago | from the easy-electric-rider dept.

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Major Blud writes Harley-Davidson has unveiled their first electric motorcycle called "Project LiveWire." The bike is currently not for sale and detailed specifications are scarce. Harley plans on taking it on a demonstration tour of the U.S. for the next year to gather customer feedback. "The new LiveWire won’t make the distinctive 'potato-potato-potato' chug that Harley once tried to patent. Its engine is silent, and the turbine-like hum comes from the meshing of gears. But electric motors do provide better handling and rapid acceleration — with the electric Harley able to go from 0 to 60 mph in four seconds. LiveWire’s design places the engine at the bottom of the bike."

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Nice looking bike... (4, Interesting)

RoknrolZombie (2504888) | about 4 months ago | (#47278437)

Nice looking bike, but I wonder if they're going to offer something more cruiser-like. I'm certainly not opposed to a "greener" ride, but I'd look a damned fool on one of those.

Re:Nice looking bike... (5, Funny)

oic0 (1864384) | about 4 months ago | (#47278547)

Just take off the pirate outfit and put on a full face helmet and proper motorcycle safety gear. It will look natural I promise. ;)

Butt pirate outfit! (0, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278595)

Ever notice how the queers who own Hollywood always sneak in pro-homo garbage in their movies? Like the queer who "peaks" when Adam Sandler is peeing in Little Nicky, a kids' movie?
 
The same thing happens with the naked queer law enforcement officer in Wild Hogs when his "hey you guyth!!!" while skinny dipping behavior is portrayed over and over and in a positive light.
 
In conclusion, this is PERFECT for the middle aged homosexual yuppie Harley rider that would be afraid that he would break a fingernail on a REAL Harley and would be afraid that the vibrations from the garbage flathead motor would be too much stimulation on his prostate after the previous night of massage...

Re:Butt pirate outfit! (1)

tepples (727027) | about 4 months ago | (#47278635)

Ever notice how the [LGBTs] who [allegedly] own Hollywood always sneak in pro-homo garbage in their movies?

Don't worry; they squeeze in plenty of anti-Homo sentiment [orain.org] as well.

Re:Butt pirate outfit! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278705)

lesbian, gay, bisexual, trisexual??

Re:Butt pirate outfit! (0)

Will.Woodhull (1038600) | about 4 months ago | (#47279061)

LGB-Transexual

Re:Butt pirate outfit! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47279207)

Electric or not, Harley riders will always be fags.

MOD PARENT UP! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278743)

Insightful and weird at the same time

Re:Nice looking bike... (0, Troll)

cheater512 (783349) | about 4 months ago | (#47278563)

Didn't you know? Looking like a damned fool is compulsory for 'green' modes of transport.

So hang on, (5, Funny)

Cryacin (657549) | about 4 months ago | (#47278915)

Harley Davidson is rebranding itself as Hardley Audible?

Re:So hang on, (4, Funny)

Will.Woodhull (1038600) | about 4 months ago | (#47279093)

I understand that they are also developing a graphene playing card / titanium clothespin module that can be attached to the front fork for that awesome 1950s Schwinn Beach Cruiser buzz.

Re:So hang on, (3, Funny)

theshowmecanuck (703852) | about 4 months ago | (#47279253)

If it has a Harley logo, some idiot will buy it.

Re:Nice looking bike... (2, Insightful)

msauve (701917) | about 4 months ago | (#47278633)

That's OK. Without the loud noises, you won't get the attention you desire, anyway.

Re:Nice looking bike... (3, Insightful)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | about 4 months ago | (#47278689)

Ever heard those crazy bastards claim "loud pipes save lives"?

A REAL motorcycle makes plenty of noise, but by the time anyone hears it, the bike is a couple hundred yards out in front of them. The thunder always follows the lightning. Loud pipes are compensation for 75 year old technology that won't run any faster than the family car. It's amazing how many people have spent all that money on a Harley, but either the machine won't run over 80 mph, or the rider is to scared to exceed 80. My commuter is 33 years old, only 500 cc, and it will run 100 mph from one fill-up to the next. The other bike is only 7 years old, 600 cc, and it runs well over 150. I don't know HOW MUCH over 150, because I've not had the opportunity to find out.

Loud noise? I sure as hell can't hear the exhaust, for all the wind noise. Attention? Don't need it, don't want it.

Re:Nice looking bike... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278753)

You don't get it. The girl in back resonates at exactly 80mph. She really hums..

Re:Nice looking bike... (5, Funny)

Cryacin (657549) | about 4 months ago | (#47278885)

You don't get it. The girl in back resonates at exactly 80mph. She really hums..

Back of the T-Shirt. "If you can read this, my bitch fell off"

Re:Nice looking bike... (1)

msauve (701917) | about 4 months ago | (#47278945)

This thread is about Harleys, not Hummers.

Re:Nice looking bike... (5, Funny)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | about 4 months ago | (#47278791)

Loud pipes are compensation for 75 year old technology

Incorrect. "Loud pipes" are compensation for a small penis.

Re:Nice looking bike... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47279117)

Idiots like this get killed or maimed. Health Insurance? You're welcome.

Re:Nice looking bike... (1)

mellon (7048) | about 4 months ago | (#47278669)

I'd look badass on one of these.

And man, did you see the hair on those guys? Do they actually ride motorcycles?

Re:Nice looking bike... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278675)

Nice looking bike, but I wonder if they're going to offer something more cruiser-like. I'm certainly not opposed to a "greener" ride, but I'd look a damned fool on one of those.

What are you worried about ? How you LOOK ?

You have confirmed you ARE a damned fool.

Real riders ride, looks are for chumps.

Re:Nice looking bike... (1)

metlin (258108) | about 4 months ago | (#47278765)

I dunno, as someone who enjoys crotch-rockets (Hayabusa FTW), I love its look.

It's almost like something that Batman would ride.

Dangerous (1, Interesting)

blackiner (2787381) | about 4 months ago | (#47278443)

I sincerely hope they add some sort of noise generator, bikes are dangerous enough already.

Re:Dangerous (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278551)

Bikes aren't dangerous ... bimbos in SUVs are dangerous. Cell phone drivers are dangerous. Bikes are devices. People are the problem.

Re:Dangerous (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278589)

People are the problem.

In particular, the people that ride bikes.

Re:Dangerous (5, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 4 months ago | (#47278699)

People are the problem.

In particular, the people that ride bikes.

Don't be so mean. The world has enough of a donor-organ shortage as it is, without you going and discouraging nice, healthy, young specimens from doing things that not infrequently result in massive cranial trauma that leaves much of the rest of the body so usefully intact...

Re:Dangerous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278895)

Except the skin. That gets cheese-grated off. Does make it easy to get the organs.

Re:Dangerous (2)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | about 4 months ago | (#47279115)

I have long advocated an exemption from mandatory-helmet laws. So long as the rider agrees to register as an organ donor.

Re:Dangerous (1)

Will.Woodhull (1038600) | about 4 months ago | (#47279129)

Idunno about that "healthy young specimens" bit. That was true when I was young. But now most of the hog riders I see on the road are gray bearded balding overweight guys who would have trouble pulling their bike upright if it fell over.

Re:Dangerous (1)

CohibaVancouver (864662) | about 4 months ago | (#47278825)

Bikes aren't dangerous ... bimbos in SUVs are dangerous. Cell phone drivers are dangerous. Bikes are devices. People are the problem.

The fact that 'people are the problem' are what makes bikes dangerous.

If you're behind the wheel of a Smart car and you're hit by a bimbo in an SUV you get up and walk away.

If you're on a bike you're a dead skidmark if you're lucky and in a wheelchair for the rest of your life if you're not.

Re:Dangerous (4, Insightful)

mellon (7048) | about 4 months ago | (#47278679)

Oh, are you one of those people who thinks a glass muffler gets you noticed and keeps you safe? More likely startles some poor minivan driver into swerving into your path. If you want to stay safe, the way to do it is to pay attention. Keeping the bike quiet means you'll hear Mr. Minivan coming. See and avoid, man. See and avoid.

Re:Dangerous (1)

blackiner (2787381) | about 4 months ago | (#47278983)

Well, I suppose that may work better. I go running on the side of the road a lot and I pay careful attention to hear cars come up behind me, which lets me turn my head and see if they have moved over enough not to smash me. I pay a lot of attention to sound while driving (obviously not as much as visual) so I figured it would help though, it definitely helps notice ambulances and police.

Re:Dangerous (1)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | about 4 months ago | (#47279123)

If you run on the road, and you don't do it on the shoulder on the side of the road where you are facing oncoming traffic, you are doing your running on the illegal side of the road. Pedestrians should always travel facing motorized traffic. It's the law.

Re:Dangerous (2)

msauve (701917) | about 4 months ago | (#47278687)

So, you're one of those people who are oblivious to the traffic around them, and depend upon others to be defensive when around you. You shouldn't be on the road.

Re:Dangerous (2)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | about 4 months ago | (#47278695)

No amount of noise is going to make a bike safer. The noise FOLLOWS you, it doesn't precede you. The guy 200 yards behind you on the interstate hears you, the guy 200 yards ahead of you doesn't hear a thing. I don't give a damn that they guy behind me can hear me - he is no threat to me. That guy ahead though, could be a problem.

Noise generator - what a waste of energy.

Re:Dangerous (1)

bloodhawk (813939) | about 4 months ago | (#47278903)

umm NO. sound travels in both directions, a bike does not move at sufficient speed for sound to only be behind them. The benefit of hearing a bike is not for cars on the interstate, it is for pedestrians that will step out in front of you, people that are doing slow speed manoeuvres that may fail to see you in the mirrors but still might hear you coming 20-50 yards behind them. push bike riders that at the best of times are a hazard even when they know you are there.

Re:Dangerous (1)

markdavis (642305) | about 4 months ago | (#47279101)

But it doesn't need to be *LOUD* to accomplish that. It certainly needs to be no louder than a modern, quiet car.

I wish people with loud vehicles would be ticketed to death... and that especially holds for boom-box cars.

http://www.southparkstudios.co... [southparkstudios.com]

Re:Dangerous (1)

bloodhawk (813939) | about 4 months ago | (#47279205)

I completely agree, it doesn't need to be loud, just at a level to make it audible at close distances, quiet car level is many times better than silent. morons that modify cars and motorbikes just to increase sound for some sort of dick waving exercise should be fined to oblivion.

Re:Dangerous (1)

Will.Woodhull (1038600) | about 4 months ago | (#47279143)

Well, duh. That would work if you turned your pipes around so you were blasting the loud exhaust ahead of you.

Maybe you should do that. It would make a truthier statement about who you really are.

Re:Dangerous (1)

bloodhawk (813939) | about 4 months ago | (#47279195)

who said anything about it needing to be loud? it merely has to be at an audible level, something around the average car sound is sufficient.

Re:Dangerous (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278701)

I sincerely hope they add some sort of noise generator, bikes are dangerous enough already.

Noise doesn't make a bike safer.

The way to be safe is to increase the VISUAL presence of the bike.

Informed riders know this. Idiots like you keep parroting "loud pipes save lives"
while ignoring the fact that the noise is not even apparent until the bike passes
by. If you question whether this is true, take note the next time a loud bike approaches.
The sound doesn't get loud until the bike is next to you and passing you.

.

Re:Dangerous (1)

murderdeathkill (689413) | about 4 months ago | (#47278761)

High visibility doesn't help at all. Car drivers don't care. Though, if you look like a cop, and they'll violate your right of way less frequently. My bike is somewhat loud. The stereo in my truck is louder.

Livewire? (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 4 months ago | (#47278495)

"The new LiveWire won’t make the distinctive 'potato-potato-potato' chug that Harley once tried to patent."

I'm pretty sure Livewire [wikipedia.org] can chug in any way it wants, if they include it.

Potato? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278503)

I don't think I've ever considered a Harley to sound like a potato.

Re:Potato? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278559)

You can only hear it when the bike is off.

Re:Potato? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278759)

but they sure as shit move like one

A sure failure (4, Informative)

preaction (1526109) | about 4 months ago | (#47278515)

Harley owners want to be noticed, and without the 120 decibel roar, we won't be paying enough attention to them.

Re:A sure failure (3, Funny)

msauve (701917) | about 4 months ago | (#47278719)

  • Talk louder, they can't hear you.

Re:A sure failure (1)

riverat1 (1048260) | about 4 months ago | (#47279217)

TALK LOUDER STILL if THEY'VE BEEN RIDING for a WHILE. THE NOISE INDUCED HEARING LOSS [wikipedia.org] MAKES it HARDER STILL for THEM to HEAR.

(lower case used only to get around the lame filter.)

Compensation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278539)

A bike this ineffective at advertising how small the penis of its rider is will surely be a failure!

Re:Compensation (0)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | about 4 months ago | (#47278715)

Some of you people can turn anything into a penis envy match. Gun control advocates are like that too. They see a weapon, and they think "PENIS!" What sad lives some of you live . . .

Re:Compensation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278755)

Whereas you simply don't care about lack of same.

Re:Compensation (1)

msauve (701917) | about 4 months ago | (#47278899)

You're just upset because you always lose the matches.

Re:Compensation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278991)

Not nearly as sad as the gun nut who honestly thinks at any moment he'll be raped by a pack of savages. I can't imagine living in that much fear, needing a weapon like a security blanket.

Gun advocates never stop letting the world know that they are frightened. It's got to be a mental illness of some kind to seriously think your life is in danger at every moment.

Dead on arrival (3, Interesting)

mendax (114116) | about 4 months ago | (#47278545)

I can predict that such a motorcycle will never have much of a market. Here's why.

Bikers such as myself appreciate the engine noise their bikes make. It's a marvelous thing. While I personally dislike the noise Harley engines make—they're too damned loud—I like the healthy, high octane growl the 1.2 liter engine I sit just above and behind makes. Then there are the vibrations from the engine. At 90 mph, the engine spins at about 5500 rpm. It's an incredible feeling to sense all that power at my command being exerted.

As you can expect, none of these things are present in an electric bike. It's going to be quite a dull experience to ride an electric bike I think.

Re:Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278581)

Ah, another guy with a small penis who needs everyone to notice him.

Re:Dead on arrival (1)

mendax (114116) | about 4 months ago | (#47278801)

I'll have you know that no one has ever complained about my penis. It's more than adequate I assure you. Have you looked in a mirror yourself?

Re:Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278887)

LOL that your small hands haven't complained about your small penis.

Re:Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278975)

Of course they don't complain, bikers beat their women. Nobody would laugh at your micropenis with a black eye and a dislocated jaw.

Please tell me you're a pothead so I can have the satisfaction of knowing you embody everything that's wrong with white trash.

Re:Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278805)

^
Pansy Brigade

Re:Dead on arrival (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278607)

> Bikers such as myself appreciate the engine noise their bikes make.
We'll you and your kin are the only ones. Nothing more annoying than a handful of Harley's driving downtown between the buildings, holding the clutch in, and revving the engine.

Re:Dead on arrival (1)

mendax (114116) | about 4 months ago | (#47278817)

> Bikers such as myself appreciate the engine noise their bikes make.
We'll you and your kin are the only ones. Nothing more annoying than a handful of Harley's driving downtown between the buildings, holding the clutch in, and revving the engine.

You're damned right! However, I personally dislike the noise Harleys make. They're too damned loud. I ride a Suzuki Bandit. That's a Japanese sport touring bike with a big crotch rocket engine. It's reasonable quiet until you get onto the freeway and wind it up.

Re:Dead on arrival (1)

markdavis (642305) | about 4 months ago | (#47279131)

>" That's a Japanese sport touring bike with a big crotch rocket engine. It's reasonable quiet until you get onto the freeway and wind it up."

I *have* a 1.4 liter Japanese sport touring bike with huge performance. And like all other factory Japanese bikes, it is not loud at all, regardless of how much I "wind it up". Why? Because I didn't replace the stock, legal, quality, perfectly appropriate muffler with some loud, annoying aftermarket thing that serves no purpose except to scream "look at me" (or "listen to me, whether you want to or not") and pretend that it does something for performance (which they do not).

Loud is not performance. Loud is not safer. Loud is just annoying.
http://www.noiseoff.org/pipes/ [noiseoff.org]

Re:Dead on arrival (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278613)

Please buy one and get rid of your ridiculous 130 db bike. Nobody is impressed. The noise of 30 bikers rumbling through tourist towns and mountain scenic highways is highly annoying. I've been in towns like Taos and Durango where Harley bikers are not appreciated by the business owners. They don't buy the art and they scare away customers who want to eat outside on beautiful days.

just buy a vibrator (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278651)

Seriously, it's cheaper and it doesn't annoy the shit out of everyone else. I hear the Sybian is great.

Imagine a bike that only needs tires and brakes (4, Interesting)

Marrow (195242) | about 4 months ago | (#47278659)

The sound and the fury are great; there is no denying that. But I would be very interested in an electric bike that just runs. No oil, no fuel, no maintenance. Just a ultra-reliable ride.

Re:Imagine a bike that only needs tires and brakes (3, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278919)

They're called bicycles.

Imagine a bike that only needs tires and brakes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47279067)

I think a screaming electric motor might sound pretty good.

Re:Imagine a bike that only needs tires and brakes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47279083)

> no maintenance

As someone that just spent $900 on my Harley's 5,00 mile maintenance and almost $1,900 on my Ducati's the 7,500 mile maintenance, I would love to buy an electric bike. The valve shim kit alone is $300 for the Ducati because you need to shim both the opening and closing of the valves unlike any other engine made since the 1930s on a production engine.

Of course you'll still need to lubricate and adjust the throttle, brake and clutch cables, inspect/repair the brakes, inspect shock absorbers, inspect/replace front fork seals, inspect/add front fork oil, adjust the chain (or belt, if it's a Harley), lubricate steering head bearings, and go over all the critical fasteners. The only real difference is changing the oil and adjusting the valves. Maybe the electric ones aren't that much better.

Re:Imagine a bike that only needs tires and brakes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47279167)

But it'll still be a Harley. One would be wise to have some decent tools...and a multimeter as well.

Re:Dead on arrival (1)

mellon (7048) | about 4 months ago | (#47278681)

Bikers appreciate all kinds of different things. I like something that handles nicely in the turns and has lots of torque. Quiet is a bonus for me, not a drawback.

Re:Dead on arrival (1)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 4 months ago | (#47278683)

They don't do noise like ICEs do; but electric vehicles do tend to combine a battery pack that could (possibly literally, in the larger models) melt a crowbar with a motor that looks only slightly different than a dead short at zero RPM.

If they can't make that combination, through some combination of vibration and sheer acceleration, inject the sentiment "Plenitudo potestatis. fuck yeah" directly into the operator's brain, they are doing something wrong.

If they can do it without the noise, they are doing something right.

Re:Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278733)

Bikers such as myself appreciate the engine noise their bikes make. It's a marvelous thing...I like the healthy, high octane growl the 1.2 liter engine I sit just above and behind makes. Then there are the vibrations from the engine. At 90 mph, the engine spins at about 5500 rpm. It's an incredible feeling to sense all that power at my command being exerted.

TMI. Keep your sex life to yourself, and in your mom's basement.

Re:Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278745)

You're wrong. I ride, too.

Re:Dead on arrival (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278749)

You clearly haven't expierenced the thrill that instant electric torque can provide. This may not appeal to Harley's traditional customer, but this could make motorcycles appealing to a whole new segment of the population. No shifting, pure power.

Re:Dead on arrival (1)

mendax (114116) | about 4 months ago | (#47278835)

Oh, I've experienced it. But on a bike that high torque is going to leave you on your ass and your bike bent up as you pop a wheelie using all that torque. I'll stick with gasoline and pistons.

Re:Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278927)

> But on a bike that high torque is going to leave you on your ass...

So, uh. Reduce the torque or balance the bike to compensate? I, for one wouldn't mind moving the power generation for my ride to a very large, substantially more efficient-per-watt generator out in the boondocks.

Re:Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47279137)

Which is to say that you enjoy the illusion of power, but aren't competent enough to handle actual power and wish to compensate for that with a lot of noise. At least, I have to assume that, since your arguments against are 1. Too powerful and 2. Doesn't sound powerful.

Re:Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47279181)

it will be easy to do a launch control system on that bike...
1. Lean forward
2. Let off brake squeeze throttle keep wheel straight
Enjoy the warp speed rush.

Re:Dead on arrival (1)

metlin (258108) | about 4 months ago | (#47278889)

Not all bikers are like you. Personally, I would absolutely love an electric motorcycle.

Plus, all that power and more will be exerted in an electric motorcycle - they just won't be wasted on noise and vibrations. They will be efficiently used in a servo motor, and as a geek, that excites me more than any rumble of power being at my command.

Loud for a reason (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278913)

And that reason is so that the people driving the death boxes actually notice you. Fine, they are annoyed, but you know what else they are? Alert to your presence on the road near them. And that is the first step in not becoming a skidmark when someone decides to change lanes.

Electric bikes? Might as well call them suicide engines. Without something else making noise to let people know you're there, these will kill you much faster than that loud harley or even your normal yamaha or suzuki or honda.

Re:Loud for a reason (1)

mark-t (151149) | about 4 months ago | (#47279119)

FYI.... these motorbikes are not silent. Watch the video.

Re:Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278953)

Fuck you. It's assholes like you that make incredible noise in the dead of night. It's a thrill for you to wake up an entire neighborhood, being passive aggressive at 60 miles per hour. Anyone who's been unfortunate to have a motorcycle nut for a neighbor knows how they love keeping people awake for blocks all around.

Motorcycles are like pit bulls; they're cool but 90% of the owners are worthless anti-social trash. I'm sorry your penis is so small that you have to make up for it in decibels.

Re:Dead on arrival (1)

johnnys (592333) | about 4 months ago | (#47279113)

Wrong! Wrong! Wrong!

90% of motorcyclists are perfectly reasonable people who ride motorcycles with the original quiet mufflers, or a reasonable muffler that is not a lot louder. The 10% of cretins who ride with earsplitting open pipes are the MINORITY. Don't think that because they make 90% of the noise that we're ALL like that.

I've ridden 40,000 miles on motorcycles in Canada and the USA and I always had a reasonably quiet muffler. So please don't keep spreading the lie that "90%" of us are lowlifes: There's probably a MUCH higher percentage of politicians and bankers who deserve culling than motorcycle riders!

Re:Dead on arrival (not) (1)

patniemeyer (444913) | about 4 months ago | (#47278965)

Your thinking about the engine noise will totally change after you drive an electric bike that is faster and better performing than any gas bike could ever be... You'll pull up next to someone with an old fashioned gas bike roaring and making noise and fumes and you'll just effortlessly smoke them while they are roaring and straining to keep up with you.... and you'll start to think of the noise not as power but as "poser"... like a fake strong man groaning to lift a tiny weight or a rock guitar player making that strained face as if it it takes physical effort to play. It will happen to you...

Re:Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47279007)

"All that power" in a Harley? Joking much? Possibly the worst power to weight (and reliability to boot) in a bike, regardless of country of origin. The only reason to buy HD is the noise and optional "Loud Pipes Save Lives" bumper sticker for your giant Ford limited-edition one-person-only SUV. Also bragging rights on who gets to spend the most on repairs and shiny gidgets and old-school girlie-bike handlebars.

Re:Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47279029)

As you can expect, none of these things are present in an electric bike. It's going to be quite a dull experience to ride an electric bike I think.

Electric motors deliver 100% of their torque immediately. Dull experience? Depends on how you ride.

Re:Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47279171)

I don't know. Have you tried to ride a bike with a constant torque? Not many have. Would be interesting to hear from those people. May be inner ear can provide a better perception of power.

Dead on arrival (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47279227)

maybe you have to see south park season 13 episode 12 'the f word'. I have about the same view about bikers.

Re:Dead on arrival (2)

kheldan (1460303) | about 4 months ago | (#47279251)

Are you kidding me? I've been riding motorcycles for 35 years and I'd stand in line for a chance to own something like this, and I've owned some fast bikes. Zero to 60 in 4 seconds? And it does it quietly? Hell, yes! Fewer moving parts to wear out? Hell, yes! No massive amounts of heat generated? Hell, yes! For 100,000 miles the only thing that would likely need replacing are brake pads and tires? Oh HELL YES!

You, on the other hand? As others have pointed out, sounds like you want compensation for something you're lacking, buddy, not necessarily a motorcycle. Midlife crisis much?

From a BMW Rider (1)

Toad-san (64810) | about 4 months ago | (#47278597)

The "won't be paying enough attention to them" is true enough. But the Dead on arrival comment is perhaps not accurate. Well, accurate enough for a Harley rider. But I rode a BMW R75-5 airhead for a decade or so. Quiet, vibration free. But hardly dull.

An electric Harley? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278611)

But how is it supposed to leak oil and have worn-out cylinder heads after 2000 miles?

Re:An electric Harley? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278815)

Easy it will be made err assembled in america or it will be history in the Making as Harley davidson finally make an efficient engine!

What? (3, Interesting)

ArchieBunker (132337) | about 4 months ago | (#47278623)

How will they make it leak oil and break down like normal Harleys?

Re:What? (5, Funny)

Richy_T (111409) | about 4 months ago | (#47278725)

Firmware upgrade

potada (1)

AndyKron (937105) | about 4 months ago | (#47278625)

I bet 50% of the energy goes into the straight pipe boom speakers. potada potada potada....

Sounds (1)

DaMattster (977781) | about 4 months ago | (#47278819)

They could always digitize the sound of the Harley. That would be cool.

Bourne To Be Wild (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47278857)

Woody Stevens: I'm just swimming here with my gay friends.

Electric motors are awesome! (1)

EzInKy (115248) | about 4 months ago | (#47278949)

It's electric storage that is the problem. Fix the range problem, and I'm not talking about the average or median range here, and we"ll all be golden.

loud = fast NOT (1)

markdavis (642305) | about 4 months ago | (#47279079)

>"with the electric Harley able to go from 0 to 60 mph in four seconds."

Wow, so that makes it only twice as slow as my old gas Kawasaki. Extreme noise (because people think loud = performance, which it does not) and vibration (along with poor handling and old tech) are Harley trademarks... I can't imagine why they would be interested in producing such a model.

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