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Chicago Adding Sensors For Public Monitoring

timothy posted about a month ago | from the keepin'-eye-on-yous dept.

Crime 107

An anonymous reader writes "A research project dubbed the 'Array of Things' will add sensors for public monitoring throughout Chicago. The project is being started by a collaborative effort between the University of Chicago and Argonne National Laboratories. The goal of the project is to build a permanent data collection infrastructure to monitor things that might help government officials, researchers and companies better understand the city environment. Sensors will examine various attributes such as air quality, wind, light, sound heat, precipitation, and of course cell phone data. Eventually the researchers would like to see the sensors exist as a public utility throughout the entire city to help public, private and academic partners learn about the city. Researchers say there is nothing to fear about privacy because the sensors will only count people by observing cellphone traffic. With such assurances from researchers working in a shining example of transparency and democratic freedom like Chicago, what could possible go wrong?"

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107 comments

It's Chicago (4, Funny)

PPH (736903) | about a month ago | (#47285751)

They could just count voters.

No, wait. Forget that.

Re:It's Chicago (1, Funny)

stox (131684) | about a month ago | (#47285945)

That is why sensors will be installed in all cemeteries. One of the reasons I love Chicago, I can stay active in politics after I die.

Re:It's Chicago (1)

Dutchmaan (442553) | about a month ago | (#47286223)

Sometimes I forget that Slashdot is considered a "liberal" site...

Re:It's Chicago (1)

PPH (736903) | about a month ago | (#47286263)

One has to be able to laugh at one's own faults.

Re:It's Chicago (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about a month ago | (#47286419)

It would be an interesting graph, showing how many users here are on the liberal/left side or conservative/right side of various topics here.

But even liberals can make jokes about Chicago's reputation. Especially if they live(d) there.

Re:It's Chicago (1)

Enigma2175 (179646) | about a month ago | (#47287127)

I figured with your sig you would realize there is a lot more to the political spectrum than just the left/right false dichotomy that the US system presents. The voting system ensures that the system will never change from 2 dominant political parties, but it would be nice to at least get a better party than the two shitfests we have now.

Re:It's Chicago (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about a month ago | (#47287419)

Of course I do. I just didn't want to drag the point out too much.

Re:It's Chicago (1)

currently_awake (1248758) | about a month ago | (#47287151)

It would be an interesting graph, showing how many users here are on the communist/left side, liberal/MIDDLE side, or conservative/right side of various topics here. FTFY.

Re:It's Chicago (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about a month ago | (#47287433)

That's something I've asked about on other forums as well as here before.

What separates the left, especially the European version of left, from the American concept of left/liberal?

Is it really just ownership of land and business? Because it seems the American left wants all things that the European left does - wage parity, paid college education, national health care, abortion rights, environmental regulations, banking regulations, other business regulations, etc.

So what sets the far left so much apart, other than simply the fact that the American left believes in home ownership, and communists don't? (Or at least it's very curtailed.)

Honest question, and I'm open to all answers.

Re:It's Chicago (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47288521)

American "liberal" doesn't mean the same thing as European "liberal". Europeans have a history that starts with oppression and has led to a slow progression to more liberal laws, granting freedom to citizens where they once were subjects to monarchs. Liberals in Europe seek freedom and conservatives seek a return to autocracy. Americans have a history that "starts" with freedom, and a constitution that was founded in freedom. Liberal and conservative in American parlance refer to the ways people interpret the US constitution. Conservatives hold fast to the ideals of freedom as set down by the founders. Liberals interpret the constitution liberally, stretching meanings to match their desires, which sometimes are good, but often have more to do with establishing autocracy ("only we in the government should be allowed to have guns. Let's twist the words to the second amendment such that citizens can't own guns"). Even the good liberals find their stretched interpretations later abused by bad liberals. Government food and housing programs started out with good intentions, but now the US has a class of voters that are "slaves" to the bad liberals and who don't do anything useful for society (unless you consider voting for the bad liberals useful; and they do).

Re:It's Chicago (1)

Mr. Slippery (47854) | about a month ago | (#47288643)

What separates the left, especially the European version of left, from the American concept of left/liberal?

Left=pro-worker=socialist, though that word has been poisoned by a century of Red Scares here.

Right=pro-aristocrat=capitalist. (When you have a hereditary class of state-backed "owners" who control the economic resources, that's an aristocracy.)

Left/right has nothing to do with social issues like abortion rights, gay marriage, etc., nor does it have to do with the size of government. It's about who the economic system should benefit.

The Democratic party is thoroughly capitalist, with only a relatively minor disagreement with the Republican party as to what degree of exploitation of the proles by their feudal lords is best.

Re:It's Chicago (1)

sumdumass (711423) | about a month ago | (#47289241)

The Democratic party is thoroughly capitalist, with only a relatively minor disagreement with the Republican party as to what degree of exploitation of the proles by their feudal lords is best.

You better tell that to their leadership. Well, that or actually listen to them and change your comment to match reality. Unless you consider the elimination of private profit thoroughly capitalist. That is a stated goal of the socialist party that most of the democratic party including Pelosi and I think Reid are members of (Reid, I'm not so sure about).

Re:It's Chicago (1)

rtb61 (674572) | about a month ago | (#47287477)

For a start let's stop considering those who choose to corrupt politics and democracy as being either liberal or conservative, clearly they themselves do not believe in either only seeking to use them for purpose of camouflage and masquerade as they seek to defraud the people who trust them. As for monitoring cell phone traffic and claiming it as a service, yep, sure a service to big brother and the panopticon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P... [wikipedia.org] and only those in power can be trusted and the rest of us are all criminals. Why is it all of these systems of monitoring some how seem to miss those who are most likely to cause the greatest problem by being corrupt. New law is required, those who accept and run for public office should be subject to 24/7 public monitoring for their term in office, after all if they don't like they can always quit.

Re:It's Chicago (3, Interesting)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a month ago | (#47286483)

Sometimes I forget that Slashdot is considered a "liberal" site...

Just because a place is run by Democrats does not mean there's anything "liberal" about it.

Chicago Democratic politicians are some of the most illiberal people you will ever meet. Especially our mayors. The last liberal mayor we had was Harold Washington, who was a really decent guy and a great mayor. Before him there was Jane Byrne, who was also really good for the city. Much of what's good in the city today had its start during Washington's administration, and you can trace most of the rot to the past two scumbags. The current mayor Rahm and his predecessor, Daley, are nothing but corporatist tyrants. It's why the bankers and Chamber of Commerce and corporate leaders all love them.

Here's a rule of thumb. If bankers and Wall Street support a politician, forget about their party label. They are scummy authoritarian fascists whose only agenda is the upward redistribution of wealth. You can count our current president and congressional leadership among them.

I'm not saying the two parties are the same, but their differences are completely trivial. It's why we see fundamentally the same policies no matter who gets elected.

Re:It's Chicago (2, Insightful)

pete6677 (681676) | about a month ago | (#47286769)

Chicago residents have zero interest in individual rights and freedom. In fact, the very idea frightens them. They would much rather have the government take care of them and tell them what to do. This is why every Chicago incumbent (all Democrats) gets reelected as long as they are interested in running. People here have no desire for reform, as they are either getting something from "the system" or think they will be too.

Once I realized this, a lot of things that were previously a mystery all of a sudden became clear.

Re:It's Chicago (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a month ago | (#47287867)

Chicago residents have zero interest in individual rights and freedom. In fact, the very idea frightens them. They would much rather have the government take care of them and tell them what to do.

Is that so? What a fascinating insight into us.

People here have no desire for reform, as they are either getting something from "the system" or think they will be too.

Sounds like your describing our current flavor of capitalism. Emphasis on the "think".

Re:It's Chicago (2)

mysidia (191772) | about a month ago | (#47286855)

Install sensors in Abraham lincoln's grave. As he turns in his grave; the direction he chooses to turn will indicate the vote; Aye or Nay.

Re:It's Chicago (2)

pslytely psycho (1699190) | about a month ago | (#47287015)

"Install sensors in Abraham lincoln's grave. As he turns in his grave; the direction he chooses to turn will indicate the vote; Aye or Nay."

Oh please, he'll be spinning so fast in the 'nay' direction to be pointless.... ....however, hook a generator up to him and he should be able to power a fair portion of the city...... :)

Re:It's Chicago (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286261)

I'll wait for at least CTos 2.1

Re:It's Chicago (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286915)

Good thing it's not Detroit.

Re:It's Chicago (1)

davester666 (731373) | about a month ago | (#47289581)

" Researchers say there is nothing to fear about privacy because the sensors will only count people by observing cellphone traffic"

Yes, because there is nothing in cell phone traffic that uniquely identifies the phone, and there is no way to link the phone to an individual. You might have lent it to anybody.

The curse of large cities (-1, Offtopic)

mi (197448) | about a month ago | (#47285765)

When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe.

- Thomas Jefferson [brainyquote.com]

Indeed... The big cities are the most Illiberal...

Some curse (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47287265)

I worked at Argonne last summer and we had regular bus dropoffs at Millenium Park the whole time. I drove a total of 5000 miles, going from Oregon, to Chicago, up to Montana, down to Yosemite then back to Oregon. I can tell you exactly why we're piled upon one another in large cities" rather than living in wonderful little towns: because in cities you can actually find new things to do. Driving through Rawlins, WY... Alberta Lea, SD... Bridgeport, CA, and (literally) a hundred more, places with populations of 5000, 1000, or in some cases literally 150... "This would be nice to visit and unwind, but I'd die of boredom by week 2." Every time. If you manage to be bored anywhere near a place like Chicago, though, that's some impressive willful isolation and deprivation.

Re:Some curse (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47287367)

"This would be nice to visit and unwind, but I'd die of boredom by week 2."

Propensity toward boredom is a good sign of an unimaginitive mind or a lazy body. I have never once been bored in my life, and I've spent cumulative years in shit hole locations the size of postage stamps in third world countries.

No Thanks. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47285771)

Didn't the malls just get sued for 'monitoring cellphone movement throughout the stores?'

Splunk log (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47285821)

2014, Jun, 20 22:15:47 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 enters establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'
2014, Jun, 21 01:42:15 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 exits establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'
2014, Jun, 21 03:19:02 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 exists alleyway behind establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'

Re: Splunk log (1)

reiter.john (1149557) | about a month ago | (#47285843)

Lol, o god.

Splunk log (1)

Lovin1t (3702871) | about a month ago | (#47286029)

2014, Jun, 20 22:15:47 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 enters establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'
2014, Jun, 21 01:42:15 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 exits establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'
2014, Jun, 21 03:19:02 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 exists alleyway behind establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'

Why you posting my personal data yo?

Re:Splunk log (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286303)

2014, Jun, 20 22:15:47 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 enters establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'
2014, Jun, 21 01:42:15 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 exits establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'
2014, Jun, 21 03:19:02 - Person with SSN 352-79-3492 exists alleyway behind establishment 'Marla's Marvelous Massage'

I think you meant 'spunk log'

Cell Phone = National ID (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47285905)

It's official. Everyone is tagged and monitored like some soft of animal.

Idiocracy was too kind.

Re:Cell Phone = National ID (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47285931)

Speak for yourself, everyone. Some of us do not own cell phones.

Re: Cell Phone = National ID (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47288929)

All the more reason to keep close eye on you.

Re: Cell Phone = National ID (3, Interesting)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | about a month ago | (#47286059)

Am I the only one who thinks this is cool as hell, and wants this made open access for all?

Why is it ALWAYS with the fear mongering about the privacy you already don't have, and no one ever talks about the better decisions we could be making if everyone knew what the elite already know?

Sensor networks are interesting for their potential to tell us things we'd never think to ask. About ourselves.

Quit trying to hide like cowards and chase the power to watch the watchers, you mis'rble bastards!

Re: Cell Phone = National ID (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286119)

Why would the elites EVER give up this power?

Is human history replete with wealthy and powerful benevolence?[hell no!]

What fucking planet do you live on?

Re: Cell Phone = National ID (2)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | about a month ago | (#47286899)

The planet where the elite want you to talk about chasing the wrong dream, and I'm fighting against that influence in every debate on this subject.

Re: Cell Phone = National ID (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286295)

> chase the power to watch the watchers

How 'bout you go use the nearest Stingray to "watch the watchers"?

Oh wait, that doesn't work because Stingray is supposed to let the watchers watch *you*, not the other way around. Who'd have thought it? Not you, apparently.

Re: Cell Phone = National ID (1)

khallow (566160) | about a month ago | (#47286469)

Why is it ALWAYS with the fear mongering about the privacy you already don't have, and no one ever talks about the better decisions we could be making if everyone knew what the elite already know?

Experience and reason. As the other replier noted, why would the elite share this with us?

Re: Cell Phone = National ID (1)

ShieldW0lf (601553) | about a month ago | (#47286913)

You carry personal computers everywhere you go. It's not a matter of capacity, but collective will.

Re: Cell Phone = National ID (1)

khallow (566160) | about a month ago | (#47288475)

The "collective will" favors the elite.

Re:Cell Phone = National ID (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286975)

Most residents of Chicago are nothing more than animals. Now if only we could do the same to Detroit.

Fuck 'em (1)

Chas (5144) | about a month ago | (#47285929)

Guess the only way I'm going downtown is with a backpack full of jamming equipment.

Fuck 'em (1)

Lovin1t (3702871) | about a month ago | (#47285979)

You forgot noise makers,smoke bombs and a strobe machine.

Re:Fuck 'em (1)

Mister Liberty (769145) | about a month ago | (#47286403)

Isn't that the gov's core business these days?

Re:Fuck 'em (1)

sumdumass (711423) | about a month ago | (#47289455)

Maybe he better pack a purple dildo, a six pack of Vaseline and a spatula in their too. When the cops stop him, he can just say he's going to a party and hope they don't ask what the spatula is for.

Without that, I'm thinking he would be labeled a terrorist and if anything innocent could get you a one way ticket to Club Gitmo, noise makers,smoke bombs, a strobe machine and a backpack full of jamming equipment would.

Re:Fuck 'em (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286123)

Going downtown, with a backpack? Sure, OK. Don't forget to walk around Big Willie! See how many laps you can walk around the building before you're arrested. Make sure you tell your lawyer that you were just exercising your right to use a public sidewalk. You'll be doing community service for days, if you're lucky.

Re:Fuck 'em (1)

iggymanz (596061) | about a month ago | (#47286253)

bullshit, lots of people commute and walk around Chicago with back packs. do you have any idea how many colleges and universities there are? and half the people who go to work wear them

Re:Fuck 'em (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47287065)

Sigh. Do you know what Big Willie is? Willis Tower, formerly known as Sears Tower, tallest building in the city. The idea is that loitering around a skyscraper while wearing a backpack will attract police attention, can you understand that?

Re:Fuck 'em (1)

iggymanz (596061) | about a month ago | (#47288735)

yes, I work in downtown Chicago. I see Willis tower every f'ing work day. People with back packs loiter everywhere around the former sears tower. people with back packs go to work in the former sears tower. People with back packs shout slogans and pass out pamphlets near the former sears tower, and I walk by them wearing a back pack.

do you even have a point, you ignorant shit head?

Re:Fuck 'em (1)

Dins (2538550) | about a month ago | (#47288907)

Glad to see I'm not the only one having a hard time letting go of the name "Sears Tower". Willis Tower just sounds...wrong.

Re:Fuck 'em (2)

Mister Liberty (769145) | about a month ago | (#47286395)

Or, you could just 'early adopt' one of those sensors for your own projects.

Re:Fuck 'em (1)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | about a month ago | (#47286531)

cool. I'll bring the bread and peanut butter. we'll have a great picnic!

Re:Fuck 'em (1)

currently_awake (1248758) | about a month ago | (#47287155)

That would actually ID you rather well, if only you are doing it.

It's uncanny, like the new game.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47285933)

is this life imitating art, or marketing pseudo-news getting press on a slow Friday?

How To Tell You Live In A Dictatorship (1)

WillAffleckUW (858324) | about a month ago | (#47285941)

see "public monitoring"

Re:How To Tell You Live In A Dictatorship (3, Insightful)

Nidi62 (1525137) | about a month ago | (#47286085)

The best test is can you openly criticize your government. If the answer is yes then congratulations, you don't live in a dictatorship.

Re:How To Tell You Live In A Dictatorship (1)

xxxJonBoyxxx (565205) | about a month ago | (#47286159)

>> can you openly criticize your government. If the answer is yes then congratulations, you don't live in a dictatorship

And if a government body (like the IRS) singles your group out for harrassment (like auditing the hell out of all your associates) after critizing the government, then "yes, you can" live in a dictatorship too.

Re:How To Tell You Live In A Dictatorship (1)

Lovin1t (3702871) | about a month ago | (#47286275)

The US is an Oligarchy. You can't prove me wrong.

Re:How To Tell You Live In A Dictatorship (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47287055)

Also please note the comment that "we have nothing to fear."

River water quality reading (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47285943)

10 body parts per million.....

Watch_dogs anyone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47285961)

It' the beginning of CityOS.

Watch Dogs? (1)

soren42 (700305) | about a month ago | (#47285977)

I read this, and thought, "Wait, I'm currently playing this in simulationâ¦" It's sad that this is manner in which life has chosen to imitate art. It also raises the question, "Did the researchers see the game and decide to try it? Is the game really a covert proof-of-concept? Or is this *really* just a coincidence? (Go away you nutty conspiracy theorists!)"

Sigh (3, Insightful)

LookIntoTheFuture (3480731) | about a month ago | (#47285991)

The goal of the project is to build a permanent data collection infrastructure to monitor things that might help government officials, researchers and companies better understand the city environment.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Re:Sigh (1)

Krishnoid (984597) | about a month ago | (#47286197)

I read this, and thought, "Wait, I'm currently playing this in simulationâ¦" It's sad that this is manner in which life has chosen to imitate art. It also raises the question, "Did the researchers see the game and decide to try it? Is the game really a covert proof-of-concept? Or is this *really* just a coincidence? (Go away you nutty conspiracy theorists!)"

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Or in this case, with unintentionally accurate simulations.

Re:Sigh (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about a month ago | (#47286323)

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

I used to think that, now I think it's paved with people with good intentions, by people with bad ones. Cue the trampling.

Re:Sigh (1)

FatdogHaiku (978357) | about a month ago | (#47286369)

The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

The new, Federally funded "Congressman Asshat Bypass" is faster!

Re:Sigh (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47288017)

Amen!

Scratch the cell phone monitoring, and (3, Insightful)

Nutria (679911) | about a month ago | (#47286005)

it would also be darned useful to non-fascists.

"and of course cell phone data." (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286015)

Of course.

sound heat? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286039)

What is sound heat and how do you measure it?

Re:sound heat? (1)

rmdingler (1955220) | about a month ago | (#47286079)

What is sound heat...

and how do you measure it?

Heavy breathing in your ear by a quality mating applicant.

Vicariously.

Re:sound heat? (1)

Nidi62 (1525137) | about a month ago | (#47286091)

With a microphone thermometer?

Camel Noses and Slippery Slopes (0)

IonOtter (629215) | about a month ago | (#47286061)

Toss those words and phrases around LBGT issues, and the masses flock to your church.

But try to use them around issues like privacy, surveillance and three-letter agencies, and you're as ignored as Richard Stallman.

Interesting sociological experiment (1)

Nutria (679911) | about a month ago | (#47286089)

An anonymous contributor submits a link-free Oh Noes 1984!!!!, and the End Of All Our Freedoms comments just flood in.

Re:Interesting sociological experiment (1)

CrimsonAvenger (580665) | about a month ago | (#47286397)

A quick googling shows several articles that match up with what the AC described. Including the one in the Chicago Tribune. It's not hard to check on this sort of thing, really.

Re:Interesting sociological experiment (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47287461)

A large number of /. users have been showing signs of mental illness for a while now. It's seriously as bad as the nutty sites like Breitbart and Fox Nation.

Many people here think they're intelligent due to their technical skills, but in reality they're dumb, and paranoid.

Chicago sensors (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286115)

Sure thing. Like Chicago is not going to monitor it's "citizens" and visitors under the guise of climate and other related BS? This is Chicago, one of the most Socialist-leaning cities in the country.

Re: Chicago sensors (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47288281)

No, Chicago is one of the most authoritarian leaning places in the country. Quit trying to redefine a word to suit your Fox News inspired agenda.

of things (1)

iggymanz (596061) | about a month ago | (#47286169)

those who think they are witty appending "of things" to a technology noun should be beaten to death with the femurs of those who use "in the cloud"

Re:of things (1)

I'm New Around Here (1154723) | about a month ago | (#47286463)

What do you suggest we do for people who say "in the cloud of things"?

Re:of things (1)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | about a month ago | (#47288363)

Tip them out of their wheelchair and beat them on the head with their femurs?

No way (1)

AndyKron (937105) | about a month ago | (#47286311)

Fuck the 'Array of Things' , and Fuck Chicago. I used to like it as a kid, then I grew up.

Re: No way (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47288177)

That certainly sounds like an adult post.

And Watch_Dogs just came out (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286351)

Looks like somebody thought it was a good idea.

Re:And Watch_Dogs just came out (1)

ButchDeLoria (2772751) | about a month ago | (#47286673)

Well, Ubisoft IS the Templars. Even Abstergo Entertainment's offices in Assassin's Creed 4 were directly modeled after Ubisoft Montreal's.

Re:And Watch_Dogs just came out (1)

Nidi62 (1525137) | about a month ago | (#47286923)

Even Abstergo Entertainment's offices in Assassin's Creed 4 were directly modeled after Ubisoft Montreal's.

They have cells in the basement?

Re: And Watch_Dogs just came out (1)

Trinn (523103) | about a month ago | (#47289201)

They're just implementing E.A.'s industry-leading worker compliance measures ;)

my startup is the internet of things (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286437)

U of C is more than welcome to contact me and work out a deal.

They're Good (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286491)

Argonne Nat'l Lab is very good. Competent, solution-driven scientists and engineers. Not spies.

And University of Chicago. Respected School.

Re: They're Good (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47289495)

"Solution driven" sounds respectable, but some people are still searching for the Final Solution.

Intellectual property (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286543)

I think the ctOS system is already patented.

goolge is observing cellphone traffic for maps (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about a month ago | (#47286601)

goolge is observing cellphone traffic for maps so why send the cash on this when we need other things done with more and longer CTA lines.

wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47286627)

they just played watchdogs and came up with a bad idea

How Prophetic... (1)

vomitology (2780489) | about a month ago | (#47286711)

I just finished playing Watch Dogs.

"better understand the city environment" (1)

epyT-R (613989) | about a month ago | (#47287051)

Now if that isn't newspeak.. fuck the surveillance state.

Criminals? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47287623)

If made available publicly this is very likely to be abused by criminals.
And then there are concerns for when this gets hacked...

I wish I had something to make light of (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47288113)

But it's just impossible.

I have lived in Miami, Chicago, Los Angeles, New York City, San Francisco, and traveled to many more major cities.

I have never felt so bothered by the state of affairs as I have in Chicago.

Politicans have been crooked for so long that the state doesn't have a reasonable budget with which to address the many many problems the city has.
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/December-2010/Why-Is-Illinois-So-Corrupt-Local-Government-Experts-Explain/

The police are brutal, disrespectful, disregarding of your rights, and it's popularly known; The constitution might as well be their toilet paper. (I have been searched without cause, consent, or warrant too many times)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Police_Department#Controversies_and_brutality

Racism is abundant, obvious, and participated in by every ethnic group.
http://gawker.com/5948686/the-most-racist-city-in-america-chicago

Laws are setup only to make it easier to prosecute and oppress their population (highways with 45mph limits?)

In a time where NYC has been lambasted for using so called "stop and frisk", mean while producing meaningful results that anyone who frequently visits NYC over the last decade will notice immediately, Chicago has only gotten worse at handling it's crime, while still managing to be even more invansive and brutal than NYC.

The Heart of the matter (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47288395)

They should just shove those sensors up their asses to see how assholes move about the city.

They're measuring "sound heat"? Wow. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47288443)

Yeah, I really don't understand why, or exactly how they'll differentiate "sound heat" from heat generated by other means. I mean, heat generated by sound has to be minuscule ...

WATCH_DOGS? (1)

kainewynd2 (821530) | about a month ago | (#47288589)

Isn't this the complete premise to WATCH_DOGS, including the freakin' city?

irony (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47289381)

what could possible go wrong?

That.

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