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Microsoft's Cloud Storage Service OneDrive Now Offers 15GB For Free

samzenpus posted about 4 months ago | from the bigger-is-better dept.

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DroidJason1 writes Microsoft revealed today that they will be offering 15GB of free OneDrive storage, up from 7GB. Office 365 users will now get 1TB of storage, up from 20GB. This announcement comes after Amazon revealed unlimited photo storage for those who buy the new Fire phone. Dropbox, a competitor to OneDrive, currently has 2GB for free but offers more space if you refer people to the service. Google Drive offers 15GB of free storage, while Amazon Cloud Drive offers 5GB.

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Even more work for spies! (1, Funny)

gsslay (807818) | about 4 months ago | (#47299029)

And to think that just the other day Microsoft were complaining that the NSA fallout was getting worse. Are they hoping to swamp them with simply too much data on Microsoft's servers?

Re:Even more work for spies! (2, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 4 months ago | (#47299059)

They decided to make a virtue of necessity and classify the NSA's copy of your data as the 'offsite backup', thus freeing up enough space to expand their offering.

Re:Even more work for spies! (1)

benjymouse (756774) | about 4 months ago | (#47299069)

And to think that just the other day Microsoft were complaining that the NSA fallout was getting worse. Are they hoping to swamp them with simply too much data on Microsoft's servers?

So, would you expect Microsoft to hold it's breath while the lawmakers pull their collective behinds together to reign in the runamok NSA? Should they stop doing business while they wait for the political system?

Re:Even more work for spies! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299197)

Should they stop doing business while they wait for the political system?

Oh, if only.

And, once again, Microsoft 'innovates' the commonplace.

Re:Even more work for spies! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299901)

So, would you expect Microsoft to hold it's breath while the lawmakers pull their collective behinds together to reign in the runamok NSA?

Um, I think gsslay's point (assuming they were not just trying to be humorous) is that expanding their business offerings kinda calls into question Microsoft's claims that this whole NSA fiasco is costing them business.

Not that I agree with that view. If anything, it'd be more like they are trying to win back business despite the NSA fiasco.

Re:Even more work for spies! (1)

gsslay (807818) | about 3 months ago | (#47306161)

My point was more that Microsoft have tactically acknowledged that their servers are an open book to the TSA, but they think that people and companies will be keen on giving them even more to read.

15GB free, 1TB $80 (4, Informative)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 4 months ago | (#47299517)

I have a "server" machine on my home network, with some big hard drives (inexpensive today). It is set up so on local network I can simply access the drives as though they were in my work machine, other than network latency of course. When away from home, I can use SSH and SFTP. (In fact I use SSH forwarding so I can access both the server and my regular work machine.)

Very simple. Easy to set up. Probably more secure than Microsoft anything. And no third parties involved.

I don't need "streaming" anything. I don't need DLNA or other kinds of streaming services. If I am away from home, I just download the file and view or play it locally. Disadvantage: that can take a while. Advantage: no blips or burps or freezes in my media, because IT'S LOCAL, not streaming.

I can also sync folders, if I want, via BitTorrent Sync. Again, no third party involved.

So, really: I don't need "cloud services". They offer me nothing I don't already do myself, and they add unreliability, privacy risks, and so many other things I really don't need to dick around with.

I would also like to find an NAS that doesn't have all those fancy bells and whistles, and doesn't make me pay for them. I just want it to "look like" a local drive on my home network. That is all. I will take care of the rest.

Re:15GB free, 1TB $80 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299613)

I have a "server" machine on my home network, with some big hard drives (inexpensive today). It is set up so on local network I can simply access the drives as though they were in my work machine, other than network latency of course. When away from home, I can use SSH and SFTP. (In fact I use SSH forwarding so I can access both the server and my regular work machine.)

Likewise. About 28TB of storage (about 16TB once the RAID overhead & hot standby is accounted for). It's all backed up a couple of times per week onto external USB drives as well.

Very simple. Easy to set up. Probably more secure than Microsoft anything. And no third parties involved.

I don't need "streaming" anything. I don't need DLNA or other kinds of streaming services. If I am away from home, I just download the file and view or play it locally. Disadvantage: that can take a while. Advantage: no blips or burps or freezes in my media, because IT'S LOCAL, not streaming.

I can also sync folders, if I want, via BitTorrent Sync. Again, no third party involved.

We use DLNA streaming locally. Not over the net. Like you, I can copy stuff whenever I want to my device over a VPN, and view it locally.

So, really: I don't need "cloud services". They offer me nothing I don't already do myself, and they add unreliability, privacy risks, and so many other things I really don't need to dick around with.

I would also like to find an NAS that doesn't have all those fancy bells and whistles, and doesn't make me pay for them. I just want it to "look like" a local drive on my home network. That is all. I will take care of the rest.

Have you tried the Synology boxes [synology.com] ? They're not the cheapest, but we have three of them at home.

Re:15GB free, 1TB $80 (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 4 months ago | (#47299941)

I have no problems with local network streaming. But I consider it a convenience, not enough of a necessity to pay for.

Have you tried the Synology boxes? They're not the cheapest, but we have three of them at home.

No, I was not familiar with them. But I am taking a good look at them now. Thanks.

Re:15GB free, 1TB $80 (1)

x_t0ken_407 (2716535) | about 4 months ago | (#47300023)

I have a "server" machine on my home network, with some big hard drives (inexpensive today). It is set up so on local network I can simply access the drives as though they were in my work machine, other than network latency of course. When away from home, I can use SSH and SFTP. (In fact I use SSH forwarding so I can access both the server and my regular work machine.)

Likewise. About 28TB of storage (about 16TB once the RAID overhead & hot standby is accounted for). It's all backed up a couple of times per week onto external USB drives as well.

Likewise, though I'm closer to 3-4TB on a Freebsd+ZFS box.

Very simple. Easy to set up. Probably more secure than Microsoft anything. And no third parties involved.

I don't need "streaming" anything. I don't need DLNA or other kinds of streaming services. If I am away from home, I just download the file and view or play it locally. Disadvantage: that can take a while. Advantage: no blips or burps or freezes in my media, because IT'S LOCAL, not streaming.

I can also sync folders, if I want, via BitTorrent Sync. Again, no third party involved.

We use DLNA streaming locally. Not over the net. Like you, I can copy stuff whenever I want to my device over a VPN, and view it locally.

Exactly, me too. Mediatomb+PS3 ftw here.

So, really: I don't need "cloud services". They offer me nothing I don't already do myself, and they add unreliability, privacy risks, and so many other things I really don't need to dick around with.

I would also like to find an NAS that doesn't have all those fancy bells and whistles, and doesn't make me pay for them. I just want it to "look like" a local drive on my home network. That is all. I will take care of the rest.

Have you tried the Synology boxes [synology.com] ? They're not the cheapest, but we have three of them at home.

Interesting, I'll take a look into these.

Re:15GB free, 1TB $80 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47300113)

>Very simple. Easy to set up. Probably more secure than Microsoft anything. And no third parties involved.

I don't think you understand security as well as you think you do, a mistake many novices make and learn to regret later. Also, those NAS systems you trust implicitly often have their own security faults. Many of them are even still susceptible to heartbleed.

Re:15GB free, 1TB $80 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47300327)

I don't think you understand security as well as you think you do

He said that it's "Probably more secure than Microsoft anything." Care to point out how he's incorrect? It seems ludicrous to state that his data isn't safer in his own hands and would be safer in the hands of some third party asshole corporation like Microsoft that likely grants the government access to the data.

Also, those NAS systems you trust implicitly often have their own security faults.

There is no system without security faults. But being more secure than Microsoft garbage is trivial, since they're defective by design.

Re:15GB free, 1TB $80 (2)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 4 months ago | (#47300343)

I can also sync folders, if I want, via BitTorrent Sync. Again, no third party involved.

AFAIK BT Sync does involve a third party. Cut your connection to the internet and it mysteriously doesnt seem to sync with other devices on your LAN.

Re:15GB free, 1TB $80 (1)

chihowa (366380) | about 4 months ago | (#47300511)

Yeah. Using mysterious black box software and making/trusting claims about its security is a bit naive.

Re:15GB free, 1TB $80 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47300683)

That's where http://syncthing.net comes to save the day. Maybe. Why would you trust open source software if you won't inspect it any way?

Re:15GB free, 1TB $80 (1)

Jane Q. Public (1010737) | about 4 months ago | (#47301351)

GP: I meant it doesn't involve any third party "cloud service".

Parent: I didn't say I trusted it. I said I could sync with it. Regardless: keep in mind that whenever you use iCloud or Microsoft Azure or Google, you're trusting mysterious black box software. So let's keep things in perspective.

Re:15GB free, 1TB $80 (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 3 months ago | (#47305797)

You cant know that-- we already know that its syncing requires a connection to the cloud, until someone takes the time to break out wireshark you dont know that its not sending data or metadata to the cloud as well.

Re:15GB free, 1TB $80 (1)

TubeSteak (669689) | about 4 months ago | (#47301873)

According to the user manual, no internet connection is required.
http://btsync.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/BitTorrentSyncUserGuide.pdf [amazonaws.com]

On page 2:

Connection
The devices in sync are connected directly.
Ðonnection is established by use of TCP,
UDP, NAT traversal, UPnP port mapping, and relay server. If your devices are on a local
network, BitTorrent Sync will synchronize them without the Internet connection.

Re:15GB free, 1TB $80 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47310271)

Yeah and what is your bandwidth like? When you are grabbing files remotely, how fast can you get them? Using OneDrive, I could download GBs from anywhere in a couple minutes. I bet you can't upload that fast with your home connection.

Re:15GB free, 1TB $80 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47322939)

What kind of moronic sysadmin allows you to connect your home NAS to the corporate network? On the flip side, I would shudder at the thought of attaching my relatively secure home network to that rat's nest at work.

Re:Even more work for spies! (1)

hughperkins (705005) | about 4 months ago | (#47301897)

Note that encfs is perfect for this:
- encrypts using AES-256
- easy to use
- works on linux :-)
- and there's at least one app for Android that is compatible with the encryption protocol
- each file still is stored as a single file so:
      -- no issues with losing all your data at once :-)
      -- replication can still be file by file
- works through Fuse, doesn't need admin rights, kernel drivers and stuff :-)

http://www.arg0.net/encfs [arg0.net]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E... [wikipedia.org]

From 20GB to 1TB for Office 365?? (1)

haruchai (17472) | about 4 months ago | (#47299065)

That's one huge upgrade but you'll need a VERY fast connection to really take advantage

Re:From 20GB to 1TB for Office 365?? (1)

geekmux (1040042) | about 4 months ago | (#47299133)

That's one huge upgrade but you'll need a VERY fast connection to really take advantage

Yup.

Ironically the main provider of that "VERY fast connection" to Office 365 is Google.

Re:From 20GB to 1TB for Office 365?? (5, Insightful)

jellomizer (103300) | about 4 months ago | (#47299303)

The reason why companies can offer such large sizes for free is because most people will not come close. They probably looked at the statics and saw each user was using an average of 3gigs and not even using the 20gigs. However other companies are advertising more, so they just reconfigured the quota system to 1TB and they are competitive again. No major upgrade to their systems, just changing a few bits around.

Re:From 20GB to 1TB for Office 365?? (1)

pnutjam (523990) | about 4 months ago | (#47299751)

That's true, nobody has the patience to upload large files or file sets and their ISP will dump the connection if it takes a day.

What's next, hidden storage caps & shaping? (2)

swb (14022) | about 4 months ago | (#47299807)

I wonder if they are at risk of the same "problem" residential internet providers have.

Marketing and competition with DSL providers drove them to aggressively raise their base throughput from 5 Mbps to 10 to 20 or whatever they advertise. Engineering assured them "nobody actually uses this much bandwidth".

Then came torrent users and other heavy users who got not-so-hidden bandwidth caps, then the caps became sort-of policy for everyone, then streaming video took off and now 7-10 Mbps is basically an evening's entertainment in a household with two TVs and a laptop.

They still advertise cable as a 10-20 Mbps service, but now there's a public conflict over bandwidth, caps, etc.

I wonder if storage providers will have the same problem once people start finding some practical use for stashing 1 TB online.

Re:From 20GB to 1TB for Office 365?? (1)

Metabolife (961249) | about 3 months ago | (#47308335)

Cloud storage is the fractional reserve bank of the internet.

Just remember who actually owns that data (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299067)

And when you gaze long into a cloud the cloud also gazes into you.

Re:Just remember who actually owns that data (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47300697)

And when you gaze long into a butt my butt also gazes into you.

Best extension [mozilla.org] ever.

Worth nothing (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299073)

I don't care if it's a billion GB. Might as well put everything on The Pirate Bay.

flickr + git-annex (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299077)

Flickr offers 1TB of free storage for photos (last I checked). There's a script, flickrannex I believe, which lets it act as a special remote for git-annex. You do lose a little space due to some packing overhead of storing everything as a png, but it's still more than an order of magnitude more usable space than what any other free service I've found.

Re: flickr + git-annex (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299175)

With the added advantage that the TOS lets flickr/yahoo delete it whenever they want, without warning.

Just in! (5, Insightful)

GWBasic (900357) | about 4 months ago | (#47299083)

Just in! [Major hard drive manufacturer] is now offering [large amount of space] for [small amount of money]. This is amazing because, just [a short period of time] ago, they used to charge [small amount of money] for [almost as large of an amount of space].

Re:Just in! (2)

Timothy Hartman (2905293) | about 4 months ago | (#47299203)

It's pretty amazing news really when you think that there are only a dozen or so other companies that are better liked and have better offerings doing the same thing for free.
In all seriousness though at $7 a month for 1 TB and Office 365 the people who still insist on Microsoft Office are getting a pretty good deal compared to $10 a month for 1 TB and Google Apps. I personally prefer Google Apps over Microsoft Office and prefer not having to use either in general, but the interoperability between other people still stuck in Office is undeniable. A few phone calls from people who use Office everyday but have no clue what they are doing who struggle with files from Google Docs makes having a copy around worth it.

Re:Just in! (0)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 4 months ago | (#47300053)

The devil is in the details. Most of the ones offering large amounts of free storage have some fairly annoying limitations, like low maximum file sizes or the need to use their own stupid software to sync the data. OneDrive has the advantage of being intergrated well into Windows, but also the disadvantage of relying solely on that integration and not offering FTP/RSYNC or any good solution for Android/Linux.

Fantastic NSA annoucement (1)

Jorge666 (3709467) | about 4 months ago | (#47299157)

And who said partnerships are bad?
Some of government subsidies are really beneficial for end users.

Still file size capped (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299169)

Now if they only could remove the annoying 2GB file size cap... Its especially annoying on their payed 1TB office 365-plan.

Re:Still file size capped (1)

pnutjam (523990) | about 4 months ago | (#47299761)

oh no, then you could use what they are advertising.

MEGA (3, Interesting)

svanheulen (901014) | about 4 months ago | (#47299177)

With MEGA giving 50G for free with client side encryption, I don't understand why you would use any other service.

Re:MEGA (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299283)

Because I don't trust the owner. That doesn't mean I trust Microsoft, either.

Re:MEGA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299639)

Because I don't trust the owner. That doesn't mean I trust Microsoft, either.

You don't understand the concept of "client side encryption," do you?

Re: MEGA (1)

tysonedwards (969693) | about 4 months ago | (#47299713)

It is still a question of trust... Trust that the encryption method isn't flawed, trust that they aren't super secret squirreling away your key, trust that they aren't just "saying" that it is encrypted.

Re: MEGA (1)

svanheulen (901014) | about 4 months ago | (#47300823)

The encryption is all in JS, you can verify the code yourself. Like I'm sure you do with your current encryption method.

Re:MEGA (1)

KingOfBLASH (620432) | about 4 months ago | (#47299723)

Just because you encrypted your data doesn't mean it's safe.

Re:MEGA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299965)

I may not always use the cloud, but when I do I roll my own encryption.

Re:MEGA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47300293)

I do, I just don't trust that the service will still be there in a year, or even in a week.

Re:MEGA (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 4 months ago | (#47300367)

It certainly sounds like you dont.

The only secure client side encryption is the one you provide. If Mega is doing it in-browser, its useless: they could simply change the JS to provide them with the key, or not actually encrypt.

Re:MEGA (1)

svanheulen (901014) | about 4 months ago | (#47300803)

The browser plugin downloads the JS once and uses the local copy instead of downloading it every time you access the website.

Re:MEGA (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 3 months ago | (#47306263)

You're still trusting code that they provided not to provide them with your key. Thats a massive security flaw right there; if they got served with court papers they could be compelled to provide an update that divulges the key.

Azure File Encryption in Office 365 For Business (2)

westlake (615356) | about 4 months ago | (#47300149)

With MEGA giving 50G for free with client side encryption, I don't understand why you would use any other service.

Set for a July launch.

When a Fort Knox file is stored in Azure, it is split in several fragments. Each fragment is encrypted (using AES 256 bits encryption) with its own key. Each of these fragments are stored in separate Azure containers that are generated on demand.

This shredding architecture allows for massive scalability of storage and more importantly, very strong security at the file level. Imagine the challenge of having to reconstruct a set of fragments spread across dozens of containers, each encrypted with its own key.

These keys are also regenerated every day, making it even more difficult to gain access to the raw storage.

A master key is used to encrypt keys used to encrypted each of the fragments. These encrypted keys are stored in the content database, and the master key is stored in a separate key store.

With a master key stored online in Microsoft's key store, this still allows someone with access to this master key to decrypt all the fragment keys and then use these keys to decrypt the underlying storage. This is less of an issue for a hacker scenario (although possible, given the level of fragmentation between tiers tougher to accomplish) but more of an issue of an NSA style ''request'' for your data. Assuming Microsoft were to comply with the request, they could ultimately still provide them access to your master key and decrypt the information.

The only real solution is to have master keys generated off the grid so that they could not be requested at all and not be in your cloud providers hands to hand over on request.... however this would be difficult to implement and still have a useable business productivity portal because you would still need the master key to decrypt the files.

Technical Details on Office 365 Fort Knox Encrypted Storage [microsofttrends.com]

Re:Azure File Encryption in Office 365 For Busines (1)

svanheulen (901014) | about 4 months ago | (#47300741)

According to that link, Microsoft holds a master key, which means NSA/Microsoft can still read your data.

Re:MEGA (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 4 months ago | (#47300603)

Because MEGA is a fucking pile of useless shit that doesn't allow people to download files with any regular Web browser.

Re:MEGA (1)

mister_playboy (1474163) | about 4 months ago | (#47300711)

They've fixed that now AFAICT. You are right that they were Chrome-only for quite a while.

Re:MEGA (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 4 months ago | (#47300837)

Still not fixed, it doesn't work with the latest version of Safari and I'm not about to install another browser just to download files from one stupid website.

Re:MEGA (1)

svanheulen (901014) | about 4 months ago | (#47300763)

Works fine in Firefox, which I would consider a regular browser.

Re:MEGA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47300831)

Firefox is still a steaming pile of crap on OS X.

Re:MEGA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47300913)

OS X is still a steaming pile of crap.

Re:MEGA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47301231)

It's been really good since 10.4

Before that though... yeah it was pretty crap.

Re:MEGA (1)

bloodhawk (813939) | about 4 months ago | (#47303029)

and what exactly is stopping you using client side encryption and storing in onedrive or amazon or googles service? personally I would not trust ANY of them with data that I considered sensitive enough to need encryption and I certainly would not be using encryption software provided by any of the cloud providers themselves. I see no advantage to anything offered by MEGA and hence I don't understand why anyone would use that service.

Re:MEGA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47303065)

50G vs 15G isn't an advantage?

Re:MEGA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47303157)

considering the reports of how incredibly unreliable and sluggish their service has been since it was relaunched I would say NO it isn't an advantage given it may well be 0GB when you need to actually retrieve it.

Semi-related (1)

synapse7 (1075571) | about 4 months ago | (#47299195)

I got notice that Ubuntu cloud storage services are coming to an end. Storage like this is handy for family photos, I'm not sure I would use it for anything else.

Re:Semi-related (1)

jader3rd (2222716) | about 4 months ago | (#47299409)

Storage like this is handy for family photos, I'm not sure I would use it for anything else.

That's the reason I went with flickr. OneDrive will talk about the photo sharing experience, but it kind of sucks. It's great for the scenario of creating a folder of pictures to be shared with one person one time, but on a continuous basis of posting photos for people to see, it sucks. Flickr on the other hand is designed just for photo sharing, and it does it fabulously.

Re:Semi-related (0)

synapse7 (1075571) | about 4 months ago | (#47299717)

Not sure I've tried flickr, I will look into it. I liked dropbox for this, but I noticed the uploaded photo is usually reduced quality?

Also, my OneDrive is currently showing 7GB total capacity, unless I gather other users.

Re:Semi-related (1)

St.Creed (853824) | about 4 months ago | (#47300009)

Mine is showing 25GB and I still have 5GB left. I guess being an early adopter has its advantages :)

I use it as a free backup for the family photos. Otherwise it'd be dropboxed or crashplanned.

So does Copy.com (1)

cunninghamd (3698707) | about 4 months ago | (#47299227)

Copy.com has been offering 15GB for free for awhile, and you get 5GB for every referral. I was able to get enough referrals to get over 300gb. Shameless blog plug: http://nosleep.ca/2013/09/27/h... [nosleep.ca]

Big deal (1)

TheCreeep (794716) | about 4 months ago | (#47299235)

Copy [copy.com] has been offering 15GB free for a long time now, plus 5GB extra for each referral up to INFINITY.


</shamelessLink>

Re:Big deal (1)

Mike Van Pelt (32582) | about 4 months ago | (#47299417)

Note also, if you take him up on that referral link, not only does he get an extra 5GB, but you do, too. 20GB, not 15GB. (Rats, he beat me to it...)

Another feature of copy.com is that the storage accounting for shared storage is shared. So, if you have a 1GB file that you share with nine other copy.com users, you each get charged only 100MB.

Re:Big deal (1)

Torp (199297) | about 4 months ago | (#47300131)

Interesting one. Does the sync work as well as Dropbox?

Re:Big deal (1)

xyankee (693587) | about 4 months ago | (#47300337)

Copy is good, sync works well. I'm up to 2.8TB of free space from referrals in one account of mine, and 600GB in another. In terms of free-for-life space (supposedly) that's pretty rad.

Two complaints:
1. Their iOS app is a bit lacking. It can't play audio files in the background, so when you switch apps your music stops playing which is annoying. Dropbox for iOS continues streaming the music in the background.
2. It doesn't seem super fast, maybe because I only have a free account. I rarely see syncs top 1MB/sec, even though both computers I sync to regularly are on fast lines (100/10 for one of them, and 50/25 for the other). Still, it's free, so... (and to be fair: I've never closely looked at how fast dropbox xfers and I've largely replaced it with Copy).

Oh, here, my 5GB referral code (gives both of us 5GB). Let's see if I can get up to 1PB, shall we? :p https://copy.com?r=kbYtwg [copy.com]

Re: Big deal (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47301329)

"Copy" is missing key features, like, two step authentication, LAN sync, delta sync, and ubiquitous app support.

Re: Big deal (1)

Torp (199297) | about 4 months ago | (#47303991)

I see an "Allow local peer discovery and syncing" checkbox so it's not missing LAN sync. For my use cases delta sync and two step authentication aren't useful.
So here's another shameless referral link: https://copy.com?r=pEmm98 [copy.com] .
Note that I just signed up so I'm more deserving of the 5 Gb bonuses than the guys above who already have terabytes of storage :p

Funny, I was going to pay for Dropbox the moment they dropped prices to google drive levels. But they seem to have lost the opportunity now. Don't you like this thing called "competition"?

Re: Big deal (1)

Torp (199297) | about 4 months ago | (#47304025)

Oh btw, copy.com now says you can earn up to 25 Gb through referrals. No more unlimited :)
They should have added a "Hello slashdot!" to that line.

Breaking News! Take 2 (1)

FunkyLich (2533348) | about 4 months ago | (#47299249)

In an extraordinary move, a company that makes use of sacrilegious ways of collaboration using technology and ideas with names such as "open source" or "donationware", such a company seems to have attracted the attention of heretics and infidels whose sole purpose in life is to undermine the Goodness of the Enterprises. With the controversial name of "OwnCloud" they sinfully provide a way to transform any combination of: "free", "Microsoft", "storage service" and "15 GB", into a joke . Some even commit atrocities such as breaking 'politically correct' protocol and laugh right in front of the face of the speaker of these words. How this company has done this is still unknown, but speculation and rumour speak of "local computer OwnCloud instance" and "router/modem port redirection". A certain kind of the geek species even blaspheme with openvpn connections between the hosting company where they keep webpages, and the beforementioned atrocious "local computer OwnCloud instance". Yet, the consensus among the experts about this last bit is that we are dealing with pure fantasy.

Re:Breaking News! Take 2 (1)

Torp (199297) | about 4 months ago | (#47304007)

OwnCloud is good if you're willing to take the time to maintain it. I tried to use it but it seemed very bloated for my lowly Atom home server. Php and webdav, if i recall correctly. They should have made a native code lightweight sync server separate from the web interface IMO.
Of course, if you *have* to run a cloud service that you control 100%, OwnCloud is the best solution. I'd mod you up but I already posted in this thread...

Re:Breaking News! Take 2 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47330001)

Try self hosted SeaFile if you dont care for the ajax ui and really care of team sync of files

20K item limit... (5, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299397)

But they still have a 20,000 item limit for the 1TB OneDrive for Business user so you tend to end up hitting the item limit well before the data size limit...

Re:20K item limit... (1)

Trepidity (597) | about 4 months ago | (#47299453)

True, although the average person shouldn't be using that one. OneDrive for Business is, despite the name, not the same product at all, and mostly Enterprise-targeted. It's a rebranded version of Sharepoint, which is more of a full-on content-management/collaboration/etc. platform, rather than a synced drive. I'd guess that's the reason for the item limit also, since it's doing some more heavyweight import/management of each item vs. just storing them.

mo3 0p (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299529)

Well, (0)

Skiron (735617) | about 4 months ago | (#47299591)

NSA, GCHQ etc. must be running out of disk space. Get a MS to help out!

Free of Charge? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299671)

NSA uploads still don't count against that limit, either!

Various Dropbox promotions (1, Informative)

drew870mitchell (2523490) | about 4 months ago | (#47299719)

Dropbox does start at 2GB, and this is a severe shortcoming compared to 15GB, but they give free additional storage for just about everything. I've gotten an additional 10GB, in smaller chunks, for:

  • Having .edu address
  • Using photo backup on smartphone
  • Referring other users
  • Reading their tutorial page
  • Installing the application - per device

Et cetera. It does kind of stink jumping through hoops to get there, but unlike OneDrive (YMMV), Dropbox's syncing program actually works.

Re:Various Dropbox promotions (1)

im_thatoneguy (819432) | about 4 months ago | (#47328903)

The problem with Dropbox and the reason I refuse to use it whenever possible is because they're a pyramid data scam. If I share a file with someone (say 10GB of footage from a photo shoot) and they want to accept it, the 10GB I shared with them fills up their entire capacity unless they want to buy more space themselves.

If I have 1TB of OneDrive footage and I share 1TB of data the other person has 0TB taken up of their own space.

DropBox seriously needs to drop their double, triple and quadruple + dipping of data limits.

Not very impressive (1)

tramp (68773) | about 4 months ago | (#47299921)

There are lots of cloudstorage providers: Hubic offers even 25 Gb for free. So Microsoft still is not very special with their 15 Gb offer.

It's free! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47299935)

The two most frightening words in the English language are: "It's free!" I think I'm the only person who ever wonders why corporations give you things for free. Surely they have some ulterior motive?

Re:It's free! (1)

bloodhawk (813939) | about 4 months ago | (#47303119)

of course they have an ulterior motive, and pretty much all of them are farely up front about that, would have taken you all of about 5 seconds to find it for any of the providers. They want you to use their service and like it enough or be tied to it enough to upgrade to the premium offerings.

Amateurs. (1)

Just Some Guy (3352) | about 4 months ago | (#47300063)

I bought a Synology NAS and set it up with appropriate file sharing (and the Cloud Station [synology.com] Dropbox-alike). I now have my own personal cloud with several TB of storage, and it's all under my control. Tell me again why I'd want a teensy little OneDrive?

BTW, I like my Synology but almost any other modern NAS will give you the same features. Pick one you like and free yourself from relying on Microsoft/Google/Dropbox's good graces and government backups.

15GB ? (1)

nonicknameavailable (1495435) | about 4 months ago | (#47300191)

I have 28 GB for free on onedrive

Good for departmental shares (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47300385)

I'm the network admin at a small college, and an interesting phenomenon over the last few years is the large number of colleges and universities (ours included) that have switched from Exchange/Outlook to Google Apps for Ed. A few schools have kept Exchange/Notes/etc, and a few more have gone Office 365/Live@edu for e-mail, but it seems everywhere I turn I see that yet another college is using Google Apps. MS vs Google has been something to watch of late in the Higher Ed space.

Google Drive is nice for some things -- I often find myself sharing folders in Google Drive as a common workspace for cross-Department projects -- but it likes to try to convert MS Office documents to Google's formats, and even Google's expansive storage allotments, while easily adequate for e-mail,and single Drive users, can be tight for active groups. With this change, Office 365 customers can setup group "accounts" to replace the old department shares, and have plenty of storage available. Screw Sharepoint. Oh, and while not free, Office 365 comes along for the ride with the licensing agreements most campuses have in place already. Makes me a little jealous of the MS shops right now.

Fill 'em up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47300621)

Not to be a troll, but if I have nothing better to do, can I somehow easily create a 15G file of random 1s and 0s to upload (or 15 1G files)? Just to "reserve" my space (and annoy any snoopers)?

Re:Fill 'em up! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47300995)

No, this is an unsolved computational problem. I'm writing my thesis on a related area of study within CS. If you can figure out how to create a random 1 or a random 0, then you should trademark it and than openfarce teh codz.

I was able to make a random byte once, but it was limited to a range of 0 to 255.

No file delta update--useless for encrypted store (1)

Prune (557140) | about 4 months ago | (#47300649)

OneDrive reuploads a whole file when it's changed, which makes it useless if you want to store an oft-updated TrueCrypt container, or other encrypted container. Dropbox, on the other hand, does delta updates of files. With OneDrive, every time you add/edit/remove files from your encrypted container, it will reupload the whole container. Unless you have a really small one, that's unacceptable.

Open Source storage (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47301041)

I'd rather use a FOSS offering like https://owndrive.com with privacy in mind.

No cloud for me, thanks, not now, not ever. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47301363)

The Personal Computer "revolution" began because people
wanted to get away from such things.

Those who do not remember history are condemned to repeat it,
and repeating something which sucks will suck just as much if not
even more, now that the swine who work for various agencies are
going to spy on every single bit which is stored remotely.

backups (1)

manu0601 (2221348) | about 4 months ago | (#47302601)

How do they backup such insane amount of data?

Relying on NSA will not help as they do not provide an API for restoring data

portable drives are the way to go. (1)

ntime60 (760780) | about 3 months ago | (#47307071)

I have a server at home with several 40TB of space. When I go someplace for an extended time I use a 2TB USB 3 portable drive. I can connect it to my devices when needed. Why use some place as insecure as the cloud? Why give companies a look into your business, because it is none of their business to be in my business. There is no need for that kind of connectivity, there are plenty of cheaper options that are way more secure.

Megaupload (1)

Babatunde Isaac Ishola (3439991) | about 3 months ago | (#47307273)

What ever happened to MegaUpload where you get 50Gb - for free!. Just wondering why it's is not mentioned in the article.

I have 550 GB on copy.com...so far (1)

vandamme (1893204) | about 4 months ago | (#47311789)

...because people have been passing around my referral link on some forum somewhere (all foreign names).
That would be great if I could use it, and if it wouldn't take me a week to upload all that on my "broadband" cable...

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