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Dubai's Climate-Controlled Dome City Is a Dystopia Waiting To Happen

Soulskill posted about 3 months ago | from the looking-forward-to-the-reality-tv-show dept.

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Daniel_Stuckey writes: Dubai is building "the world's first climate-controlled city" — it's a 4.3 mile pedestrian mall that will be covered with a retractable dome to provide its shoppers with air conditioning in the summer heat. The Mall of the World, as it's called, will become the sort of spectacular, over-the-top attraction Dubai is known for. Shortly after, it will probably become an equally spectacular real-world dystopia.

By sectioning off a 3-million-square-foot portion of the city with an air conditioned dome, Dubai is dropping one of the most tangible partitions between the haves and the have nots of the modern era—the 100 hotels and apartment complexes inside the attraction will be cool, comfortable, and nestled into a entertainment-filled, if macabre, consumer paradise."

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Humph (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420069)

Someone sounds jealous...

Slaves of Dubai (5, Insightful)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about 3 months ago | (#47420165)

Someone sounds jealous...

Someone is well-informed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMh-vlQwrmU [youtube.com]

Re:Slaves of Dubai (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420251)

sounds like a republican capitalist paradise. we should import a couple of the Dubai leaders to put the US poor to work. finally.

Re:Slaves of Dubai (0)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about 3 months ago | (#47420349)

sounds like a republican capitalist paradise. we should import a couple of the Dubai leaders to put the US poor to work. finally.

Grim emphasis on the "final".

Re:Slaves of Dubai (4, Insightful)

cascadingstylesheet (140919) | about 3 months ago | (#47421057)

sounds like a republican capitalist paradise. we should import a couple of the Dubai leaders to put the US poor to work. finally.

Right ... because it's Republicans who want to concentrate people in cities. Got it.

Re:Slaves of Dubai (1)

epyT-R (613989) | about 3 months ago | (#47421103)

sure beats the 'people's paradise' that is north korea

Re:Slaves of Dubai (3, Insightful)

houstonbofh (602064) | about 3 months ago | (#47420271)

Someone sounds jealous...

Someone is well-informed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMh-vlQwrmU [youtube.com]

Which has nothing to do with a dome, and everything to do with Dubai... The reaction to the dome is unfounded panic. Dubai will separate the people because Dubai separates the people. Dome, or no dome.

Not about jealousy, but ... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420195)

... disaster waiting to happen

The place is in the middle of a fucking desert, and it is fully air-conditioned

Do you know how much power the building needs just to keep it in operational ?

It is an ecological disaster in the making, and even I, someone who doesn't really care about the environment also know something is really totally fucked up regarding that kind of concept

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (4, Insightful)

Stormy Dragon (800799) | about 3 months ago | (#47420235)

Actually, one giant building requires a lot less energy to cool than an equal volume of multiple tiny buildings, because the big building has much less surface area / volume and thus transfers heat more slowly.

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (2)

tompaulco (629533) | about 3 months ago | (#47420297)

But one large dome probably contains 100 times the volume of the individual buildings it encapsulates.

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (4, Informative)

viperidaenz (2515578) | about 3 months ago | (#47420429)

If you look at the pictures, it's mostly enclosed walkways connecting all the buildings.
It's easier to cool a building if you're not pissing your cold air out the doors.

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (5, Insightful)

Stoutlimb (143245) | about 3 months ago | (#47420497)

Volume and mass do not matter as much as surface area. This is an ecological win. The enclosed area will also mean less evaporation, so more green spaces and more efficient use of fresh water supplies. This is a win, at least in theory.

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (2)

unrtst (777550) | about 3 months ago | (#47420511)

But one large dome probably contains 100 times the volume of the individual buildings it encapsulates.

As far as I can tell, it's not one large dome. I looks pretty well thought out. There is one largish dome in the complex, but it's the park part, and who knows if they'll even get to that.

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (1)

umghhh (965931) | about 3 months ago | (#47420561)

well thought out? I mean they can build there what the fuck they want - it is t heir money. Still why people live in such places and what is the purpose of this exercise is not clear to me. However I can think of building there a huge set of nuclear plants so that inevitable accidents affect limited space - that would make sense.

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420637)

If you buy gasoline, it was probably your money they used.

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (3, Insightful)

TheGavster (774657) | about 3 months ago | (#47420923)

The extra ironic part is that by selling you the gasoline to burn, they contribute to the slow heating and eventual flooding of a city that is basically on an island at sea level ...

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (2)

epyT-R (613989) | about 3 months ago | (#47421117)

Nuclear plants need large supplies of water for cooling.

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420353)

Power isn't a problem. It's surrounded by desert. Lots of empty space and sunlight. Solar power can keep it cool. Thermal sinks could be chilled during the day to take care of the reduced cooling needs at night.

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (2)

umghhh (965931) | about 3 months ago | (#47420581)

I saw a documentary about solar panels in west Africa where main problem seemed to be cleaning those f. panels from dust. Guest what substance was used to remove the dust off the panels' surface.... To give you a hint - it is a drinkable liquid and there is not enough of it on a desert.

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (3, Funny)

mythosaz (572040) | about 3 months ago | (#47420593)

Vokda?

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420779)

That's where the dystopia comes in... there might not be enough water, but slaves with brushes would probably do well enough.

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420639)

not gonna argue one bit, Go get your Green buddies get some card board signs fly to dubai and go chanting in front of the shiek/sultans/prime ministers office, see how far it gets you, or go back to college and take up another cause to whine to the world about.

Re:Not about jealousy, but ... (1)

epyT-R (613989) | about 3 months ago | (#47421105)

It would be ok if they used solar to power the AC.

Fetishising nature + this is after all a desert! (1, Interesting)

Raisey-raison (850922) | about 3 months ago | (#47420395)

Someone sounds jealous...

Jealousy and other issues as well. The Vice article seems to have strong opinions as to what sort of conditions other people may live in. It just states that it is dystopian without much evidence. And as to the poor in Dubai, they are already richer than many of their compatriots back home (many are immigrant workers) and given time and further economic development they no doubt will get richer themselves. The United Arab Emirates are the one most forward thinking areas in the Middle East. They are slowly going through what the West did in the reformation and enlightenment. Of course it will take time but I am sure they will be much more progressive societies in 300 years.

Then there is the issue that some people simply fetishise nature and assume that everything 'natural' must be beautiful. It simply is not the case. Most 'natural' places are ugly. The ones that we photograph are the elegant and interesting ones. A lot of the time those people who enjoy extreme temperatures and who are in excellent shape imagine that rest of humanity has the same take on their surroundings. It's so easy to forget that without keeping out the heat or cold many people would be miserable - particular in an extremely hot desert which is where Dubai is located. The heat is simply oppressive. And of course by allowing this dome, it means people can venture out of their homes and get more exercise - something that is otherwise not possible.

I can imagine that some people would say that humans should not be living there to begin with. To which I answer: someone gave birth to them and once there here on planet earth they have to live somewhere. And most people living in the middle east don't have much choice as to where to live particularly if they don’t want to live in absolute poverty. (So unless you want to stop Bangladeshi and Pakistani mothers from getting pregnant and /or prevent men there from impregnating them, you really cannot complain. I am always amazed at people who are shocked when they hear others moralize about women giving birth when they are very poor. They pontificate about every women having the 'right' to have children. Often these same people then later complain about the environmental consequences of such children when they reach adulthood.)

Bling Bling Motherfucker (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420077)

No one pisses away money like sand niggers.

Re:Bling Bling Motherfucker (1)

qbast (1265706) | about 3 months ago | (#47420113)

They can afford it while the only thing you can afford is cheap insults.

Re:Bling Bling Motherfucker (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420167)

and when the oil runs out they will have a nice place to park their camels.

Re:Bling Bling Motherfucker (2)

houstonbofh (602064) | about 3 months ago | (#47420289)

and when the oil runs out they will have a nice place to park their camels.

Or, they can install the solar everyone else is spending a fortune developing in the plentiful sunlight they have.

Re:Bling Bling Motherfucker (3, Insightful)

amicusNYCL (1538833) | about 3 months ago | (#47420317)

Or, they can install the solar everyone else is spending a fortune developing in the plentiful sunlight they have.

I think that they'll find that selling solar power is far less profitable than selling oil.

Re:Bling Bling Motherfucker (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 3 months ago | (#47420711)

Oh, I think it's most certainly going to be profitable, but to whom are they going to sell it? North Africans, OTOH, have Europe right across the pond...

Re: Bling Bling Motherfucker (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420369)

Dubai has very little oil. Less than 2% of the economy is oil and gas.

Re: Bling Bling Motherfucker (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 3 months ago | (#47420719)

They have their very own property bubble, though. Although I'm not sure that is a good thing...

Overreaction (4, Insightful)

qbast (1265706) | about 3 months ago | (#47420085)

It is just a big mall with AC, not beginning of Mad Max. Calm down.

Re:Overreaction (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420133)

You say that but that's exactly it's intention. To seperate the rich from the slaves.

Re:Overreaction (4, Insightful)

roc97007 (608802) | about 3 months ago | (#47420217)

You say that but that's exactly it's intention. To seperate the rich from the slaves.

And this is a new thing? Cities everywhere tend to do this.

Re:Overreaction (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 3 months ago | (#47420735)

More in some places and less in others, though. And this seems like one of the extreme cases.

Re:Overreaction (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420373)

Another way to separate the rich from the slaves is through education. Judging from your post, it appears you're sliding towards the second group.

Re:Overreaction (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420521)

Most of the truly stupid are often the ones that claim they are the most "educated". Like you. And the rich dont need education, as many MANY rich dickheads have long proved anyway. But I doubt you are part of the rich to begin with

You are a slave. You are not as educated as you think you are.

Re:Overreaction (1)

longk (2637033) | about 3 months ago | (#47420419)

Doubtful. Slaves usually outnumber the rich in these places, if only to tend to their every need.

Re:Overreaction (1)

rcht148 (2872453) | about 3 months ago | (#47420535)

How so?
In our cities today, this is already true. There are areas where prices are very high and poorer people can't afford to buy houses there. The same thing would apply for this 'dome city' too.

The article says "may be free to wander through by day, but they will surely find no residence there"; just like our current divide of richer areas vs poorer areas.

Then the article says "It won't be long before there will be those who will be desperate to get inside; and it means an authority will be established to decide who can, and who can't."
Why do you need that? Free market economy will control the prices of housing in the dome just like our current housing rates as per school district lines or proximity to other valuable services.

I don't see how this is any different from our current rich/poor housing divide.

Re:Overreaction (1)

jeffmeden (135043) | about 3 months ago | (#47421095)

I don't see how this is any different from our current rich/poor housing divide.

Clearly, it's the part about the dome... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00... [imdb.com]

Re:Overreaction (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47421071)

It's all fun and games until Tina Turner shows up.

Re:Overreaction (2)

gweilo8888 (921799) | about 3 months ago | (#47420537)

Exactly. Will it be gated, and entrants checked for their bank balance before entering? Then it's not a partition. And as for "dystopia", the submitter should probably check the definition of the word. It would hardly seem relevant to this creation.

Isn't all of Dubai an issue? (2)

Kenja (541830) | about 3 months ago | (#47420105)

It's just a mater of time before the desert swallows the place...

Re:Isn't all of Dubai an issue? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420177)

It's just a matter of time before all life on earth dies, so why bother doing anything? Dubai is an attempt to build a source of income (party city for rich foreigners) so that the country doesn't go down the tubes when the oil runs out. It probably won't work, but that's the goal.

Re:Isn't all of Dubai an issue? (1)

umghhh (965931) | about 3 months ago | (#47420617)

Assuming you have the means why the hell would you want to go there from all other places? Security? Isolation from the rest of the (poor world)?

Re:Isn't all of Dubai an issue? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47421009)

How long until some terrorist lets some biological or chemical weapon loose in that air conditioned environment? I'm guessing after about 3-4 years.

Life on Mars? (5, Interesting)

Prien715 (251944) | about 3 months ago | (#47420109)

Being the largest climate controlled dome of its kind, perhaps the engineering "lessons learned" could be applicable to creating a self-sustaining space colony -- one of the chief challenges being climate control. ..or else, I've just been playing too much Kerbal Space Program and reading too much Heinlein;)

Re:Life on Mars? (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about 3 months ago | (#47420229)

That's... actually a really good point. Let's hope the lessons are shared.

Re:Life on Mars? (1, Interesting)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about 3 months ago | (#47420299)

No one will EVER live in a permanent space colony. Sorry.

This fantasy was promoted in an age where achieving terrestrial dominance through orbital trajectory of warheads was under intense and competitive development. It did its job.

Rockwell rode on the tail-end of this era, for the final boondoggle of the US Shuttle Program, in the 1970's. You won't see anything like that again.

Re:Life on Mars? (5, Insightful)

khallow (566160) | about 3 months ago | (#47420463)

Earth is already a permanent space colony.

Re:Life on Mars? (1)

Beck_Neard (3612467) | about 3 months ago | (#47420493)

I'm a techno-optimist but I agree with you. The rate things are going, it isn't going to make much sense to have people living in space colonies. I can't think of any good reason to do it other than the coolness factor. Unfortunately a lot of people are emotionally invested in this idea and will fight logic tooth and nail to promote their fantasies.

Re:Life on Mars? (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | about 3 months ago | (#47420745)

And the space mining is going to be done completely by robots? We don't have that level of AI.

Re:Life on Mars? (2)

Beck_Neard (3612467) | about 3 months ago | (#47421193)

We don't? We already have AI that can autonomously land on other bodies and extract material. In fact we've had it for 4 decades. See: almost any planetary lander/rover ever. It seems the barrier to mining is more up-front cost and on-site materials processing than AI.

Coolness factor is enough (1)

doug141 (863552) | about 3 months ago | (#47420855)

TV is full of people doing something without "any good reason to do it other than the coolness factor." That phrase might describe the whole entertainment sector of the economy.

Re:Life on Mars? (1)

Crashmarik (635988) | about 3 months ago | (#47420519)

Oh I believe you underestimate the stupidity of the electorate and the congressional love of pork.

Figures for NASA's SLS costs

http://www.thespacereview.com/... [thespacereview.com]

They are putting the costs at a potential 5 billion/launch before any development overruns.

This is to get us to Mars. Brilliant like we have done so much with the Moon in half century since we went all out to get there.
 

Re:Life on Mars? (3, Insightful)

Jeremi (14640) | about 3 months ago | (#47420771)

No one will EVER live in a permanent space colony. Sorry.

While I share your pessimistic outlook for the foreseeable future, forever is a really long time. Are you willing to say that absolutely nobody will be living in a permanent space colony in 100 years? 500 years? 10,000 years? If so, what makes you so certain?

Re:Life on Mars? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420345)

You are looking at things realistically. Every technology starts out as a playtoy of the rich. If the author's thinking was kept to, we'd all be living in mud huts.

Re:Life on Mars? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420683)

uh dude, a modern adobe hut isnt that bad, you can get them with power cable tv and indoor plumbing.

Hmm... (5, Insightful)

Shoten (260439) | about 3 months ago | (#47420119)

I'm missing the part where something in Dubai is waiting to be a dystopia...

Asimov (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420287)

The Caves of Steel.

Re:Hmm... (2)

mjwx (966435) | about 3 months ago | (#47420981)

I'm missing the part where something in Dubai is waiting to be a dystopia...

What do you mean "waiting to be". For most of the Indian and Filipino "guest workers" it already is.

Idea! Let's bomb them and take their oil AND ma!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420135)

Sounds good to me. All in favor say Ay!

What's Gaza got to do with it? Just a second-hand strip of land.

would make a good TV program (1)

turkeydance (1266624) | about 3 months ago | (#47420137)

but needs UFO aliens, not Arabs.

Re:would make a good TV program (1)

roc97007 (608802) | about 3 months ago | (#47420237)

but needs UFO aliens, not Arabs.

I think it's already been done [wikipedia.org] .

Video game promotion (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420141)

Man, they're really going all out for that next Bioshock.

Global warming is only the start (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420151)

What will happen when eventually, inevitably, the oil and gas of the UAE starts to dwindle, the economy correspondingly does the same, and the energy supply to keep the whole thing cool becomes prohibitively expensive? The whole thing runs on massive, cheap oil and gas.

Even if global warming wasn't a factor, it would still be a dystopia waiting to happen. There's no way that thing is remotely close to sustainable. It's a big binge party before all the pizza and beer is gone.

Re:Global warming is only the start (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420275)

Same thing that has happened to the United States? How is the UAE celebrating prosperity via expansion of frivolous construction projects any different than the on-going decline of Las Vegas Nevada?

Re:Global warming is only the start (0)

Jeremiah Cornelius (137) | about 3 months ago | (#47420333)

Oil a'int fossil in origin. The Russians know that, and have capitalized magnificently on technologies that exploit this. This is actually the REAL story behind the Donetsk basin.

False scarcity is a wealth creator and a method of social control. UAE will be destroyed not by petrochemical scarcity, but by its comparative plenitude.

Re:Global warming is only the start (1)

DamnOregonian (963763) | about 3 months ago | (#47420697)

It isn't?

It's not a product of the anaerobic decomposition of millions of years worth of dead plankton, algae, and any other carbon-based microbiota that lived in ancient seas?

Re:Global warming is only the start (2)

tsqr (808554) | about 3 months ago | (#47420465)

What will happen when eventually, inevitably, the oil and gas of the UAE starts to dwindle, the economy correspondingly does the same, and the energy supply to keep the whole thing cool becomes prohibitively expensive?

Here's [wikipedia.org] some information for you. Oil and gas are a minor (and decreasing) part of the economy. Not sure about pizza and beer, though.

Surveillance City Made to Order (2)

BoRegardless (721219) | about 3 months ago | (#47420169)

"macabre, consumer paradise" or monitored controlled populace?

Re:Surveillance City Made to Order (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47421099)

Yes! It's a floor wax AND a dessert topping! But wait! There's more! You also get Filipino boys without having to go to that icky jungle, eww! with all those yucky bugs!

it will probably become an equally spectacular ... (1)

Kekke (236130) | about 3 months ago | (#47420245)

? pffttt
Nobody heard of dystopia called Earth ?

Opportunity (0)

mister_playboy (1474163) | about 3 months ago | (#47420247)

Any Borderlands 2 players?

I suddenly realize that Dubai may have been the inspiration for the not-yet-built city of Opportunity.

World's largest mall: Occupying 8 million sq ft (3, Interesting)

Alain Williams (2972) | about 3 months ago | (#47420269)

A big shopping center - sounds like hell on earth! I just can't understand the obsession with shopping, once you have your clothes & stuff just leave and do something interesting.

Re:World's largest mall: Occupying 8 million sq ft (2)

idontgno (624372) | about 3 months ago | (#47420339)

What if looking at more clothes and stuff is interesting?

Your complaint boils down to "What's wrong with these people? They're completely unlike ME!"

Yeah, I'm not nuts about rampant consumerism, and shopping is not entertainment to me, but I acknowledge that I'm not typical.

It'll be like... (1)

creimer (824291) | about 3 months ago | (#47420279)

Las Vegas with a dome over it? Meh... Sounds like a Stephen King novel.

Re:It'll be like... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420531)

Perhaps a reality television show of sorts could be made there. At random times, the military could aerosol bomb the surroundings to spice up the shoot.

Re:It'll be like... (1)

antdude (79039) | about 3 months ago | (#47420551)

And the crappy CBS show [cbs.com] it is based on.

Overboard Analysis (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420305)

Mostly a gigantic rant of, "if the poor people can't have something, than neither should the rich!"

It could have, say, POINTED OUT HOW DUBAI IS ALREADY A DYSTOPIAN FUTURE COUNTRY, or maybe talked about how domed cities could save huge amounts of energy in the future, but no, if everyone can't have something, then no one can.

Yes, how 'macabre'! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420335)

WTF? So the fact that rich people exist, and can afford to habituate certain areas of a country, is 'macabre'? I suppose rich people driving nicer cars than poor people is 'macabre'? WTF?

"Dystopia"? How about clickbait? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420347)

Experimenting with tech such as a domed city should be welcomed, but calling it a dystopia is emotional clickbait and nothing more.

Dear geeks:
Early adopters are why you can afford your modern PC, phone and other electronic necessities not to mention countless other technologies and consumer goods.

Someone with deep pockets has to fund the R&D, and Dubai is doing that in this case. The Persian Gulf is a bad place to live so adaptive tech is in order.

load of rubbish (1)

rubycodez (864176) | about 3 months ago | (#47420351)

You could say the same about any nice high rise apartment building or home in any hot city in any hot country. my home has AC too, other people in my state don't.

I went to school for 19 years to have job so I could afford nice things like HVAC. other people, didn't.

Asimov predicted it! (2, Insightful)

am 2k (217885) | about 3 months ago | (#47420365)

That's what happened to Trantor [wikipedia.org] in Asimov's Foundation series:

Trantor is depicted as the capital of the first Galactic Empire. Its land surface [...] was, with the exception of the Imperial Palace, entirely enclosed in artificial domes.

And so it begins...

Dear Soulskill (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420405)

Please STFU and quit posting your socialist nonsense under the guise of "technological" articles.

Reaching for symbolism - and failing (1)

rogoshen1 (2922505) | about 3 months ago | (#47420415)

I too have seen Elysium. (OK i haven't. but this author is describing the plot.)
Global warming is measured using terms like "degree" and "decade" (degree, as in singular)

Dubai is ridiculously hot already. The Filipino and Indian laborers are already mistreated and underpaid. They already outnumber Emirati's by 3 to 1 (or more?). If they aren't rioting in the streets yet, a few measly degrees warmer in the coming decades won't do it either.

If this retarded gimmick manages to stand up long enough for one of the hottest areas on the earth to become practically Venusian, That will be an achievement rivaling the pyramids. But it won't. Dubai's economy will eventually tank, once their neighbors oil runs out, and and the real estate market collapses again. THEN the laborers and migrants will riot. But the dome will have fuck-all impact over that.

Re:Reaching for symbolism - and failing (2)

TapeCutter (624760) | about 3 months ago | (#47420755)

Global warming is measured using terms like "degree" and "decade" (degree, as in singular)

You are missing the point, people won't burst into flames because of AGW. However the Arab spring was preceded by the worst drought in the the history of the fertile crescent (the birthplace of agriculture). People didn't suddenly log on to facebook and find out they were living under tyrants. There were food riots in Cairo and other major cities BEFORE the uprisings, almost 10% of Syria's total population just walked away from their farms and went looking for work in the cities.

Go and find out why that one guy set himself on fire in the public square, and why it resonated across the Arab world. Don't believe the "hunger for freedom" bullshit, these people were hungry for bread.

Re:Reaching for symbolism - and failing (1)

farble1670 (803356) | about 3 months ago | (#47420907)

a few measly degrees warmer in the coming decades won't do it either

man, you really don't understand climate change.

Dystopia... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420421)

I'm not sure the author knows what this word means...

Dubai has bigger problems (3)

ADRA (37398) | about 3 months ago | (#47420589)

Dubai a city with a significantly challenging future and it has little to do with a dome. It's the center of little, its propelled by wildy deep pockets vs. social need, and wealth centers in the middle east are already distributing their investments to other regions. Forget the fact that once the oil's gone the wealth remaining in the region will leach away as there's so few people (though it'll take a very long time). UAE: 9mil, Yeman: 23mil, Oman: 4mil, Saudi Arabia: 30 mil. They have huge gulfs of weath distribution, and generally horrible climates. Why would people go to Dubai if it wasn't a spectacle or a huge weath gaining opportunity? My advice: Bilk Dubai for all its worth now, because in 50 years it'll be a distant memory of largesse gone awry by modern standards.

Re:Dubai has bigger problems (1)

Ol Olsoc (1175323) | about 3 months ago | (#47420761)

My advice: Bilk Dubai for all its worth now, because in 50 years it'll be a distant memory of largesse gone awry by modern standards.

Interesting. Kind of like Mono Lake, just a zillion tines larger.

Re:Dubai has bigger problems (2)

mjwx (966435) | about 3 months ago | (#47421021)

Parts of the UAE, the Emirate of Dubai specifically are already out of oil.

Hence the fact they're trying to diversify like mad, they're trying to become the financial centre of the region in the same way as New York or London.

I know someone who works on this kind of stuff (3, Interesting)

Dripdry (1062282) | about 3 months ago | (#47420737)

I know someone who works on this kind of stuff.
He works on theme parks, recently getting hired (within his company) to fix mistakes and problems with them, in Dubai and the surrounding area. His take is repeatedly that they don't know how to do quality-control there. Their projects SOUND amazing, but they skimp on the essentials and end up with disastrous results much of the time. He believes this is a mess waiting to happen, given the area's track record, but isn't involved in the project.

LOGAN'S RUN (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420743)

"Run, runner!" That's what I thought of in that film on reading this along with the term dystopian (especially since I see this posted a lot here "Run, Forrest: RUN!!!")

Wow, it's Logan's Run (2)

valley (240947) | about 3 months ago | (#47420809)

A domed city with a shopping mall inside? How long til they implant the palm-flower and exterminate anyone over 30? Obligatory link for those who don't know Logan's Run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?... [youtube.com]

"Great minds think alike" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47421037)

http://tech.slashdot.org/comme... [slashdot.org] & thanks for the link (IF it's the whole film that is, since it's a great sci-fi classic about a dystopian future type scenario).

I suggest they build a complete sphere, (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47420859)

because they will need it eventually, http://flood.firetree.net/?ll=24.6999,54.6438&zoom=8&m=9

Micro-Weather (1)

Jorkapp (684095) | about 3 months ago | (#47421147)

Given the size of the dome, I'd be interested to see if any micro weather systems happen inside, or what the plans are to mitigate environmental effects.

Its not unheard of for weather to form in large open structures. Take for instance Hangar One at Moffett Airfield: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangar_One_%28Mountain_View,_California%29) or the Goodyear Airdock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodyear_Airdock) Though not climate controlled, these have fog (and apparently, rain) due to the massive size.

And how is this different? (1)

Dereck1701 (1922824) | about 3 months ago | (#47421179)

And how is this different from many other urban areas, it sounds exactly like any other mall. The fact that they're building it bigger and more centralized doesn't change the fact that there are many such climate controlled shopping centers in most other cities, more than a few located only a stones throw from the "bad side" of town where their poorly paid workforce lives.

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