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michael (-1)

egg troll (515396) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342360)

is it just me or does michael seem to look better since he shaved his nuts, and that space between them and his bung? now i can rim him for hours!!

Re:michael (-1, Offtopic)

TheMidget (512188) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342420)

... and moreover, he stopped using that ugly "n" word!

Re:michael (-1)

egg troll (515396) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342495)

... and moreover, he stopped using that ugly "n" word!


Nincompoop?

Re:michael (0, Offtopic)

TheMidget (512188) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342601)

No. "nifty"

Re:michael (-1)

mackga (990) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342480)

michael would look a hell of a lot better if he just cut his withered nutsack off and wore it around his scrawny faggot neck.

Re:michael (-1)

motherfuckin_spork (446610) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342564)

I thought he'd look better with a plastic trash bag over his head, pulled tightly around his neck, tied off with a twist-tie.

Re:michael (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342561)

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Your penis bird! (-1)

egg troll (515396) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342627)

Not only is it cute, but I'm very touched you would take the time to make something for me. Excuse me, but I don't want to cry in public.

All Your Al Queda Are Belong To Us!!! (0)

rygarsdad (322009) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342648)

For infinite justice!!!

What you say!! (-1)

egg troll (515396) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342727)

Someone set up us the Delta Force!!

Furst Poste! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342363)

Cyborg_Flunkie is a doodoo head!

Re:Furst Poste! (-1)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342396)

Now, that is clever! BTW, it is crymore_flunkie. And my head is full of doodoo.

Re:Furst Poste! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342714)

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Re:Furst Poste! (-1)

TrollMan 5000 (454685) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342448)

You are an anonymous cocksucker. And a lame-ass first-poster at that.

At least CM has a set and logs in.

Re:Furst Poste! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342521)

Um, unless his driver's liscense says "Cyborg Monkey" on it, we're both just as anonymous, moron.

Why don't you stop being such a coward and post YOUR real name and SSN here. If not, you have no reason to flame others for choosing to remain anonymous.

-The AC Avenger

Re:Furst Poste! (-1)

TrollMan 5000 (454685) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342616)

Shut up, crybaby! Jealous 'cause you don't have a userid?

Re:Furst Poste! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342647)

I have several well-known UIDs. Jealous because I can post anon at 0 while you're stuck logged in at -1? No one reads at -1. No one can hear you, Logged-in Coward. The only people here are myself, and the rest of the morons such as you, Cyborg_Monkey, Mackga, and the sporks. The gutter slime of Slashdot. The only thing you guys are good for is wasting bandwidth.

-The AC Avenger

Re:Furst Poste! (-1)

TrollMan 5000 (454685) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342658)

I have a 50 karma account as well. Posting at -1 allows you to post freely without pesky downmods getting in the way of the fun.

You are getting way too bent over this, asshole.

Re:Furst Poste! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342706)

I'm just trying to prove a point: You are no less anonymous than I am right now, therefore it is wrong to criticize others for their anonymity. It seems as if you are the one who is becoming irate. Concede my point and we can end this without any more of this futile bickering.

-The AC Avenger

Re:Furst Poste! (-1)

TrollMan 5000 (454685) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342737)

I refuse to concede.

My posts are traceable to me. I log in as TrollMan 5000, I post as TrollMan 5000. I was not afraid to take a bitchslap and ban for what I've done.

Now let me sit back and enjoy myself.

Please SHUT THE FUCK UP! (-1)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342741)

Jesus fucking dill pickles, you are a moron. Log in, step up to the plate and take your punishment.

If you are not man enought to face the music, them shut your fucking pie hole.

Well, come on you little pussy. Let's go.

Re:Furst Poste! (0)

Guns n' Roses Troll (207208) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342563)

"I can't HEAR YOU! Sound off like you've got a pair!"

YES DRILL SARGENT

SIR YES SIR! (-1)

TrollMan 5000 (454685) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342815)

Sound off!

This is my rifle
This is my gun
One is for shooting
The other for fun!

yo, beeeeahhhtch! (-1)

motherfuckin_spork (446610) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342522)

don't you be dissin' my homiez, o' I'll get my posse and bitchslap yo' sorry pimp-ass, muthafucka!

Too much bandwidth? (4, Interesting)

doorbot.com (184378) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342382)

The review seems to say that there's too much bandwidth available on the 420 series. Granted, it is used if you stick with the built in video, but won't someone paying a premium for the 420 most likely stick their own AGP card in? Maybe a Radeon 7500 or a GeForce 3...

At any rate, I'm wondering if the nForce is set for a multiprocessor future, especially since it offers so much bandwidth. One Athlon can't take full advantage of all that bandwidth, but I'll bet two could.

With nVidia positioning themselves as the bandwidth gurus on the AMD side, I wonder how long it will be before ServerWorks steps in and showers us with their chipsets (for AMD). My guess is ServerWorks will wait for AMD chips to support 4+ processors in a single box.

Re:Too much bandwidth? (0, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342431)

Did you read the artical? The 420 has an integrated GeForce 3.

Re:Too much bandwidth? (1)

Perrin-GoldenEyes (4296) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342527)

No it doesn't. It has an integrated GPU that nVidia says in comparable to a Geforce 2 MX 400, but Anand said wasn't quite that good. They did do some tests with GF3's.

Re:Too much bandwidth? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342673)

How did this get modded to Interesting? If this guy or even the moderator had read the "artical" himself he might have noticed it was equivalent to a GeForce2 MX.

Re:Too much bandwidth? (1)

psavo (162634) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342446)

Well, one Athlon can't saturate that bandwidth, two could.
What do you think, how long before nforce supports Hammer? There's twice as much width (64bit), so maybe, just maybe, even one Hammer could bring nforce down to its knees..

Anyway, I'd REALLY like to see NF with two athlons, although it's not really probable.. (It took AMD 3+ years to make 760MP and nvidia can't even make their video drivers work reliably in SMP). And please don't start mumbling about those things being like comparing apples and bananas. They DO relate.
Nvidia just doesn't seem to have processor SMP knowledge in-house. Maybe GPU-MP but not proc.
Hmm..
That makes me think. Didn't 3dfx had the "smp" of GPU's? yeas it did. And whos slave it's now? That's right, NVidia!!

Re:Too much bandwidth? (3, Insightful)

cmowire (254489) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342449)

Not sure. ServerWorks might be avoiding an AMD motherboard for the simple fact that Intel has been making motions of ceeding the high-end Intel chipset market to them.

i.e. ServerWorks doesn't want to loose a license to the Pentium 4 and Itanium busses. ;)

Regarding the 420 series and a built-in AGP card. It's likely that the cost difference between the two versions will be lower than the cost of a clearly better AGP card. This chipset is designed for a lower-end user. One who wouldn't be able to afford a GeForce 3 or a Radeon 7500, or at least doesn't want to spend the money on it.

Just wait (3, Informative)

interiot (50685) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342631)

Time passes, processors get faster, bandwidth requirements go up.

For the same reason, rambus will become more desirable as time passes.

Re:Too much bandwidth? (2)

soulsteal (104635) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342641)


I don't see any complaints about the bandwidth issue when the memory is used in conjunction with the dual-memory controller IGP-128. If you look at the integrated video scores, the 420 board loses a large chunk of speed due to the use of the memory bandwidth for graphics. So if you're planning on using this board, don't plan on using the intergrated video for stellar performance compared to a regular GeForce2 MX.

500MHz Video Card (-1)

TRoLLaXoR (181585) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342387)

in my mac, with GIG of RAM.

also two pentium pros with 1 meg l2 cache running at 233mhz each.

haha beat that.

Re:500MHz Video Card (-1)

The_Messenger (110966) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342434)

$800,000 RS/6000 cluster. :-) For when you really need ASCII penis fast!

Re:500MHz Video Card (-1)

TRoLLaXoR (181585) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342482)

you could run 99,999 instances of cocksay on a system like that with no slowdown,,,

wow.

WHAT YOU SAY

COCKSAY

Re:500MHz Video Card (-1)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342699)

jesse.

Re:500MHz Video Card (-1)

TRoLLaXoR (181585) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342803)

who's jesse

Re:500MHz Video Card (-1)

The_Messenger (110966) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342774)

For those of you who are confused, please reference the COCKSAY homepage [geocities.com] .

I use Word and Excel (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342398)

Does this help those apps?

Re:I use Word and Excel (-1)

egg troll (515396) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342530)

If you're using Word and Excel instead of their poorly-coded Open Source alternative, you're not a Linux user, and thus shouldn't be reading Slashdot. Oh wait, 80% of the Linux zealots here don't actually use Linux themselves. Nevermind. Please carry on.

Looks cool (-1)

SpanishInquisition (127269) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342415)

Does it run Linux?
[slashdot.org]

Re:Looks cool (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342772)

Alan Cox already had a look at it, and without specs, the answer is no.

Look forward to more buggy binary drivers, only now, its your core logic chipset instead of just video.

If NVidia captures the motherboard market, open source x86 pcs are doomed, since NVidia isn't going to release specs to ANYONE any time soon.

Question: (-1)

l33t j03 (222209) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342417)

Will this board be offered in any of the machines made by VA Linux?

Re:Question: (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342532)

Hahahahaha! Well done, fatboy.

Very interesting.. (3, Interesting)

cmowire (254489) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342426)

It's very interesting to see that chipset out.

Definately not what I would consider a performance motherboard, but I'd rate it better than an i810 or similar in terms of a chipset that has everything integrated. I mean, really, if you look at the benchmarks, your average PC manufacturer can make systems that don't need ethernet, sound, or video cards. And because it's all done by nVidia, you can bet that people who were preprogrammed by the local geek to loathe onboard Intel video will break programming and pick up an nForce based board because nVidia has got to be good, right?

Of course, the much touted dual-bus DDR-SDRAM doesn't net you too much performance over a single-bus DDR-SDRAM motherboard, mostly because it is more bandwidth than the CPU can pump. But it does make an onboard video card suck slightly less than trying to make a video card share a single PC133 SDRAM chanel. ;)

Re:Very interesting.. (2, Interesting)

Perrin-GoldenEyes (4296) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342556)

"Definately not what I would consider a performance motherboard"

Why not? According to the review it pretty much shares the AMD performance crown with the KT266A. And knowing nVidia, there'll be plenty of driver releases to streamline things even more (though I'm not sure how much impact drivers have on motherboard performance). But I would definately call this a performance part. With a 1.5Ghz Palomino and an GeForce 3 Ti500, this thing'll make pretty much the ultimate gaming rig.

Re:Very interesting.. (2)

cmowire (254489) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342736)

Mostly because the KT266A will be cheaper for the same performance and advantages. The major advantage of the dual DDR-SDRAM channels is to make the onboard video bite slightly less. If you are going to stuff it with an AGP video card, etc. you might as well just get the KT266A.

Really nice, but... (0, Offtopic)

mnordstr (472213) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342430)

All that's really nice, but it doesn't increase my /. experience in any way. So why would I want it?

Good, but New (0, Troll)

Sierpinski (266120) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342438)

A friend of mine got one of these recently, and although he said it was probably the best graphics board he's ever had, he had a bit of trouble getting all of his older stuff (mostly games, but some applications as well) and Xwindows on his linux partition to take full use of the new board.

It seems, that like most new hardware, that it will take some time for the driver community to catch up. Once that happens, it will be one hell of a board.

Um, it's not a graphics board (1)

complexmath (449417) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342570)

It's a mainboard with an integrated GeForce 2 MX and Dolby audio processor as well as some other nifty features. It's nVidia's first forey into the realm of mainboards and looks quite promising.

Um, no kidding Mr. Holmes (1)

Sierpinski (266120) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342818)

Excuse me, I called it a 'graphics board' I guess I should have said 'A motherboard with an integrated video adapter' for those of you who can't read anything in context.

Isn't it ever too much? (1)

progbuc (461388) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342444)

The dolby digital 6.1 is cool, but all of nVidia's new graphics stuff seems like overkill to me. Getting 130 fps in Quake doesn't really seem worth an extra $150. Past 60 fps, you really can't tell the difference anyway.

Re:Isn't it ever too much? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342476)

130fps in Quake 3 = 30 fps in Quake 4.

If you don't want to upgrade hardware every time new software is release then, when you do upgrade, it is best to do so to something more powerful than the current software

Re:Isn't it ever too much? (1)

ergo98 (9391) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342487)

Is this a troll? Graphics technology is just touching on what it could be. For instance in Operation Flashpoint it's one of the very first games to actually have forests, yet to have the forest the trees are very simplistic boxes, and of course trees outside are several polygons jutting out with a tree texture on them. The reality is that the only situation where current 3D cards are visually adequate is simplistic indoor situations, but if you try to visually model the outdoors even a GeForce 3 Titanium is woefully ill equipped. I dream of "OpFlashpoint" in the future when there are ditches, better foliage (despite the fact that it already has CLEARLY the best foliage of any game yet created, though years ago people were already saying that computer grpahics had gone as far as they need to go), a deformable world, etc.

Re:Isn't it ever too much? (1)

thegrommit (13025) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342524)

There is more to gaming than Quake (thankfully).

However, for the truly competitive players, higher fps makes a difference. For the rest of us, higher resolutions at playable fps is a nice to have.

Re:Isn't it ever too much? (1)

almightyjustin (518967) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342573)

Depending on your monitor, past 80fps or so and you can't even refresh the screen that fast, let alone see a difference.

Destroy Sporks. Exterminate Monkees (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342450)

Our precious slashdot users scream out for vengeance:

1. Kill all Trolls.
2. Kill all Sporks.
3. Kill all Monkeys.
4. Kill all Trollmans.
5. Kill all Buttfuckers.
6. Kill all AC fuckheads.
7. Kill all Jeff Ks.
8. Kill all SpanishInquisitions.
9. Nuke Adequacy to hell.
10. Nuke Geekizoid again.
11. Death to Goatsex.

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Please remove my name from that list. (-1)

SpanishInquisition (127269) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342469)

I am not a troll and I never was

You're staying. (-1)

TrollMan 5000 (454685) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342497)

You're just an asshole. Go away.

Re:Please remove my name from that list. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342531)

Screw you...

The person against a Troll BECOMES a Troll, wanker.

I damn well know that...

This is true! (-1)

egg troll (515396) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342543)

He's not a troll. I believe, though, he is a crap-flooder.

Re:This is true! (-1)

motherfuckin_spork (446610) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342580)

oh... I thought he was a carp-herder... my bad.

Re:Please remove my name from that list. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342546)

Have a penis bird. No, wait: have two penis
birds.



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Re:Destroy Sporks. Exterminate Monkees (-1)

TrollMan 5000 (454685) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342470)

#4? Can't wait till I'm #1. I'm getting quite a following!

Anonymous cocksucker.

Re:Destroy Sporks. Exterminate Monkees (-1)

motherfuckin_spork (446610) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342539)

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2. Blow all Sporks.
3. Lick all Monkeys.
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5. Kill all Buttfuckers. (who wants that anyway?)
6. Kill all AC fuckheads. (well, yeah, that's a given)
7. Give me lots of money.
9. Send anti-porn advocates to hell.
9. Blow me.
10. Blow me again.

Re:Destroy Sporks. Exterminate Monkees (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342728)

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Beautiful (-1)

TrollMan 5000 (454685) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342752)

*sniff!

6x....heh. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342473)

The person who submitted it made it sound as though nVidia had made a new spec or something for AGP 6x. Maybe they should have added that all they did to AGP 4x was bump up the clock speed to 100mhz instead of 66mhz. *shrug*.

seems nice, but... (1, Flamebait)

turbine216 (458014) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342489)

...it lacks the typical "punch" that nVidia products usually carry. It's odd that nVidia, a company that has always been a leader in its field, would introduce a fairly plain-vanilla product. There really aren't any truly exciting features built into the "all-in-one" board. But at 120-150 dollars, i guess it's fairly decent.

The really odd thing, i guess, is that nVidia didn't try to integrate a GeForce 3 chipset into the equation. Then this board would have been truly awesome, even if it cost $300-$400.

Re:seems nice, but... (4, Funny)

cmowire (254489) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342517)

Naw, it's smart business.

Consider all of the laid off ex-dotcommers who don't have large disposable incomes right now. ;)

Playstations for the poor!!! ;)

Re:seems nice, but... (2, Informative)

Mifflesticks (473216) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342520)

Um...yeah. nVidia hasn't always been a leader in the field. They have publically said that their first video card was a complete and utter failuer, because they chose to accelerate quadrilaterals instead of triangles, and triangles became the standard.

Why bother with a GF3 though? Yes, it has some more features that alleviate bandwidth some, but it would have made a larger die, and therefore cost more, and only given marginally better performance (though admittedly, the quality would probably have been better). But, given that the integrated video is already bandwidth limited why should they stuff a bigger, more expensive core in there that wouldn't perform much better?

Re:seems nice, but... (1)

turbine216 (458014) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342608)

so nVidia hit a bump in the road with their first product. Who cares? They're still the industry leader, without question.

And as far as using a GF3, I chose that particular chipset for the sake of forward-compatibility. I'm saying that they should have at least made a "top of the line" version with the bleeding-edge chipset, and performance enhancments to accommodate it. Doing so would have been more in tune with their current trend of innovative products.

It seems you missed the point of my post completely.

What time is it? (1, Funny)

spudwiser (124577) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342490)

I'm sorry, but it has to be said. It's 4:20!!

Hmmm.... where have I seen this before? (4, Funny)

DG (989) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342506)

Something about this motherboard seems strangely familliar.....

- On-board, highly-advanced graphics processor? Check.

- On-board, highly-advanced sound processor? Check.

- On-board, almost every other connector and whoosit you could want in a PC? Check.

Oh my God, they've invented the Amiga!

:)

Re:Hmmm.... where have I seen this before? (1, Offtopic)

Junks Jerzey (54586) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342595)

Oh my God, they've invented the Amiga!

Or a Commodore 64 or an Atari 800 (the latter of which was released in 1979).

It is interesting to note that the blitting capabilities of an Amiga can be emulated in software on a 486 and still be significantly faster than the Amiga hardware. It wasn't _that_ fast.

Fast for it's time.... (1)

DG (989) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342661)

Not to get drawn into a huge Amiga-zelotry argument over a joke, but the Amiga was screamingly fast _for its time_.

Remember that we're talking about a computer who's first iteration was 1985, its second 1990, and its third 1992.

Given that the 486 et al were a generation (hardware wise) later on, it's not at all suprising that it was superceded.

DG

Re:Fast for it's time.... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342764)

I remember reading about bugs where software didn't expect the processor to be done before the blitter on later incarnations of the 680x0. I've also seen software giving the option not to use the blitter at all and do processor blits instead, because they were faster on the higher numbered 680x0. But of course the blitter gave home programmers first hand experience with a true multitasking environment: Two chips doing different things at the same time. And the copper was a true enlightenment over the C64 method, which burned processor cycles with timing-NOPs. I'm getting carried away...

Re:Hmmm.... where have I seen this before? (-1, Troll)

Guns n' Roses Troll (207208) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342682)

You have a very impressive autocross setup. Even though I'm not into that type of racing (I do quarter miles) I still respect a nice car. I'm sure it could whip my blown '93 Cobra in cornering and handling. Probably give me a good challenge on the dragway too. My best was 12.4something@108 I think. The slip is at home and I'm at work..

Re:Hmmm.... where have I seen this before? (1)

JollyTX (103289) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342744)

Amigas rule, and always will!!! ;)

And the market asks: (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342518)

I just bought a G4 Dual 800 with a GeForce 3 card.

Should i be kicking myself now? If so, *how* badly?

(Ignore, for the moment, the question of the G5s.. should i be kicking myself for paying the $200 extra for the GF3, or for not waiting, or...

I'm building a computer... (1)

KjetilK (186133) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342540)

Wow, this comes in at the right time... I'll Ask /. this:

I'm going to buy some stuff and build a computer. Actually it is going to be my first personal (it took me 15 years to get my own...). I want a quite powerful box, but I don't care too much about the graphics on the screen or the sound. What I care a lot about is that the manufacturers I buy from are Good Guys. Also, everything I buy has to be well supported on Linux (I plan to get Debian Woody on it). I plan to get a 1.2-1.4 GHz AMD chip and 512 MB of RAM.

Now, what do you think, is this chipset something I should go for? Would it work well with Woody, do think? Are the NVIDIA guys Good?

I was looking for this stuff on Saturday, and I came up with the following stuff:

  • CPU: AMD Thunderbird 1.2GHz Socket A 266MHz
  • RAM: DDR SDRAM 2100 2 * 256 MB Socket A
  • Harddrive: Western Digital Caviar 7200 RPM 40 GB
  • Motherboard: Asus A7M266, AMD761-chipsett, Socket A
  • Sound Card: Creative Soundblaster Live! 1024
  • Video Card: Matrox Millenium G450 32MB DDR-Ram, Bulk
  • CRT: Samtron 96P
  • CD-ROM-drive: Creative 52x IDE

Does that sound like something good to use with Linux?

Re:I'm building a computer... (1)

psavo (162634) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342642)

>Now, what do you think, is this chipset something I should go for? Would it work well with Woody, do think? Are the NVIDIA guys Good?
> I was looking for this stuff on Saturday, and I came up with the following stuff:
> CPU: AMD Thunderbird 1.2GHz Socket A 266MHz

AMD is GOOD.

> RAM: DDR SDRAM 2100 2 * 256 MB Socket A

RAM is GOOD

> Harddrive: Western Digital Caviar 7200 RPM 40 GB

Big HD is GOOD.
WD SUCK. WD fail to report their "extensions" to ATA standard, and sometimes screw your data bad. Not only in linux.

> Motherboard: Asus A7M266, AMD761-chipsett, Socket A

ASUS is GOOD.

> Sound Card: Creative Soundblaster Live! 1024

Creatise SUCK. There's still no active support for linux. At least they opened specs. Or didn't.

> Video Card: Matrox Millenium G450 32MB DDR-Ram, Bulk

Matrox is GOOD.

> CRT: Samtron 96P

Big CRT is GOOD.

> CD-ROM-drive: Creative 52x IDE

Any ATAPI CDROM does it.
If you have any money left, opt for SCSI.

Re:I'm building a computer... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342770)

I'd recommend a generic $50 Geforce2MX over the matrox, has nice OpenGL support. (but binary only, from NVidia).

Also, might as well get a 1.4Mhz Athlon

Wohoo ... (1)

halftrack (454203) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342572)

... integrated.

We all know what history has done to integrated.

The reason I'm using a PC is that there is nothing integrated. Unlike a console, or obviously a future nForce based motherboard.

Re:Wohoo ... (1)

Perrin-GoldenEyes (4296) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342786)

Integrated motherboards have been around for quite some time. It's just that before, most of them sucked. If you don't like the integrated stuff, then you can still install 3rd party parts on an nForce. I'm planning on getting one and installing a GeForce 3 Ti500 (probably). You could throw in your own sound card if you wanted too. Or ethernet or pretty much any other standard PCI card. So in this case, the integration doesn't really prevent you from playing with things.

Will this thing be juiced with an Athlon XP? (1)

yesman (72063) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342577)

Will the Athlon XP make any better use of that extra bandwidth?

Re:Will this thing be juiced with an Athlon XP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342579)

There is a page in the review devoted to that question.

Re:Will this thing be juiced with an Athlon XP? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342804)

The Athlon XP only runs Windows XP, and you need an extra License for it.

Any attempt to run an open source OS on it will result in a system shutdown, and your name and address are sent to Micro-Soft and entered in thier database of people who are automatically not allowed to use Windows XP.

Only with Linux XP (1)

Atomizer (25193) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342817)

Only with Linux XP, or is that GNU/Linux XP?

Not Bad. (1)

Liquid(TJ) (318258) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342615)

Well, it isn't the killer performace piece I was hoping for, but still not a bad chipset. I'd like to get one just to get rid of my God damn SBLive card, if nothing else!

It's isn't really meaningful until we're looking at the end product from the mobo manufactures. Still, I wouldn't mind picking up one of the 220-D chipsets, a nice cheap thunderbird, and some of that fancy Dance Dance RAM. I'd just drop my GF1DDR in there until the GF3's got nice and cheap.

Re:Not Bad. (1)

Perrin-GoldenEyes (4296) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342808)

I'm right there with ya on the SBLive. I also really like the all-in-one driver situation. Saves a lot of trouble. And nVidia have a pretty good record with drivers. I'm getting really sick of trying to figure out which of the Via 4-in-1 drivers I'm supposed to be using, and which ones will make the machine unstable and such. When nVidia makes pretty much everything that needs a driver, life'll be much easier. Well, as long as I can still buy somebody else's stuff if nVidia does get complacent and starts sucking.

A perfect match (1)

say (191220) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342650)

"nForce supports a robust new feature set designed specificallyfor the new capabilities of Windows XP, including: digital music, DVD playback, 3D graphics, Dolby Digital 5.1 audio, networking, and more. The pairing of nForce and Windows XP is a perfect match--the world's best platform processor powering the world's most advanced operating system."

I don't know about other people, but those kind of statements do not exactly encourage me to buy. Actually, I decided to buy something else instead. A cake, for throwing.

My opinion (1)

methodic (253493) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342654)

First of all, I'm 100% against any on-board chips, but the nForce isn't 'bad' for a first computer. From what I read, the memory bandwidth benched very high, and the audio benched very VERY well, but the gfx weren't so hot. I'd still take a Via KT266A anyday of the week over the nForce. And as far as the 4.2gig of memory bandwidth, although very nice on paper, doesnt really matter because 10 other things start to bottleneck. All in all, its a nice chip for manufacturers like Dell and IBM to start putting on their systems (as we all know, their integrated stuff SUCKS), but that's as far as I would go with it. I cant see the nForce taking off in the hardcore-user arena.

binary drivers (1)

smunt (458722) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342659)

Is the driver source available. Open source or not, I may want to use my own exotic OS.

No! (-1)

egg troll (515396) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342761)

Of course not. If you spent millions of dollars developing a premiere product, would you release it for free so your competition can gain an edge? If the Open Source model is so great, surly someone should be able to code something up.

what about support for Linux? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342701)

Will NVidia produce or release spec that will allows the needed kernel modules and X servers to be written? See that a lot of the engineering on that board is going to be considered trade secret by NVidia - like the whole south bridge.

ACR? (2)

Malc (1751) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342746)

What is an ACR slot?

BIG surprise (0)

Harbinjer (260165) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342765)

Now, I'm ready for a big surprise from AMD when the new Palomino desktop processors can support a faster bus that can take full advantage of nForce. After all, why are they waiting so long with desktop Palomino? That would be great, but I'm not real hopeful.

I like the model number (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2342785)

420, hmm i wonder what that could mean. Buy an nForce, and with the money you save, you could buy a sack of dank nugs!

Lacking a bit for the home theater... (2)

alexhmit01 (104757) | more than 12 years ago | (#2342795)

Forget the do-it-yourself Tivo, and this still could have a role in a geek's home theater. I'm looking for a solution to use my home theater for gaming. I don't necessarily need earth-shattering Quake scores, but I need something that will look good on my high definition-ready monitor and sound good on my surround-sound system.

My fiance wouldn't like the TV becoming a gaming console for 1st person shooters, but for more communal games, it would be nice. I'd love to play group games like Heroes 3 on a TV with a wireless RF or IR mouse/trackball and keyboard. While playing audio CDs, running visualizations, etc.

The support for Digital Output without the connection is kinda silly. I haven't been able to find what video-out (if any) is supported because of slashdotting. Component Video out supporting 480p is a minimum, and 720p and 1080i would be useful as well.

This could make it possible to make PC-based stereo components, supporting gaming, integration with your home LAN (wired or wireless), etc., but it needs to support all the desired options.

Alex
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