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MicroxWin Creates Linux Distribution That Runs Debian/Ubuntu & Android Apps

samzenpus posted about 2 months ago | from the all-in-one dept.

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An anonymous reader writes VolksPC who developed MicroXwin as a lightweight X Window Server has come up with their own Linux distribution. Setting apart VolksPC's distribution from others is that it's based on both Debian and Android and has the capability to run Debian/Ubuntu/Android apps together in a native ARM experience. The implementation doesn't depend on VNC or other similar solutions of the past that have tried to join desktop apps with mobile Android apps. This distribution is also reportedly compatible with all Android applications. The distribution is expected to begin shipping on an ARM mini-PC stick.

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Android on my pi? (4, Interesting)

johnsie (1158363) | about 2 months ago | (#47493787)

Apparently there are no stable releases of Android for the Raspberry PI. I would prefer to have the whole Android distro on my phone, but I guess this is the nexr best thing. Looking forward to testinging it.

Re:Android on my pi? (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 months ago | (#47493849)

I wonder how much of that has to do with the tendency among Android app publishers to make their products exclusive to Google Play Store, which is (legally) available only on devices with preloaded Android OS. This makes AOSP distributions undesirable to end users.

Re:Android on my pi? (1)

johnsie (1158363) | about 2 months ago | (#47494045)

As an android developer I do the same. Google Play is very convenient for developers. Most of my apps seem to magically appear on other marketplaces anyway after they go on Play. I've heard it was because some of the broadcom components of the PI are closed source.

Re:Android on my pi? (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 months ago | (#47494147)

If you can't put your apps on Amazon for some of reason, why don't you make your apps available for sideloading from your own web site?

Re:Android on my pi? (1)

johnsie (1158363) | about 3 months ago | (#47518943)

If people sideload my app they wont receive automatic updates. I guess I could put an update downloader into the app though. I regularly update my apps.

Amazon Appstore updates itself (1)

tepples (727027) | about 3 months ago | (#47518997)

That'd be something consider. Amazon, for comparison, had to make its own updater for Amazon Appstore.

Re:Android on my pi? (1)

mpe (36238) | about 2 months ago | (#47494113)

I wonder how much of that has to do with the tendency among Android app publishers to make their products exclusive to Google Play Store, which is (legally) available only on devices with preloaded Android OS. This makes AOSP distributions undesirable to end users.

On the other hand any kind of "app store" in an "enterprise environment" where installing any kind of software is about the last thing "end users" should be doing.

Re:Android on my pi? (1)

dreamchaser (49529) | about 2 months ago | (#47494235)

Unfortunately that cat has long escaped the bag. As a security professional I think that BYOD and the like is a horrible idea, but most organizations have shortsightedly embraced it because a) it's cheaper (no need to pay for mobile devices) and b) they got sick of the bitching and moaning. So now we have a bunch of people running around on the enterprise network with their own devices that they have full control of.

Re: Android on my pi? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47497077)

The idea that you didn't have already is complete fantasy. In most enterprises you can just go to a random meeting room and plug in. In others, more advanced techniques would be needed but hardly something you could call "hacking". If you can't deal with BYOD then you aren't ready to deal with reality.

Re: Android on my pi? (1)

dreamchaser (49529) | about 3 months ago | (#47527789)

Bullshit. In many enterprises that I've done work with there is 802.1x in place. You do *not* have the ability to just plug in anywhere.

Re:Android on my pi? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47494013)

there is no android raspi because broadcom never supported it

Re:Android on my pi? (1)

johnsie (1158363) | about 2 months ago | (#47494025)

Why did they use closed hardware? I think my next board is going to be a riotboard.

Re:Android on my pi? (1)

Grench (833454) | about 2 months ago | (#47494053)

Broadcom have open-sourced the chip used on the Pi now (as I recall, this is including the source for the Videocore GPU); I think that was always the RPi Foundation's intention, but it's only recently made it through the legal processes.

Folk are working on Android for the Pi - it is coming. Personally, I hope this distro gets ported to the Pi, because having a full Debian instance, with the ability to run Android apps within a window (much like Wine does for Windows applications within Linux), gives users the best of both worlds.

Re:Android on my pi? (3, Interesting)

Narishma (822073) | about 2 months ago | (#47495313)

They haven't opensource it. What they did is release documentation for it, and the RPi foundation has hired someone to work on an open source driver.

Re:Android on my pi? (1)

Grench (833454) | about 2 months ago | (#47496701)

Ah, my mistake. Hopefully it won't be too long before there is no more reliance on a closed-source blob though.

Re:Android on my pi? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47494073)

there is no android raspi because broadcom never supported it

http://www.raspberrypi.org/a-birthday-present-from-broadcom/

Re:Android on my pi? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47494135)

> Apparently there are no stable releases of Android.

Fixed That For You.

Re:Android on my pi? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47497533)

Apparently there are no stable releases of Android.
Fixed That For You.

Fixed that for your Apple-owned SMM sockpuppet handlers, you mean.

Nearly three billion Android devices are currently active, compared to around 500 million of your adored iOS.

That means there's more than enough data available to determine which is the more stable OS.

And unsurprisingly to everyone except Apple shills, Crittercism has found that even though iOS 7.1 is Apple’s most stable release yet, the latest software still has a crash rate of 1.6%.

On the other hand, Android versions KitKat, Ice Cream Sandwich and Jelly Bean all have crash rates of just 0.7%. Even Gingerbread appears to be more stable than any iOS version before 7.1. All in all, you're are significantly less likely to crash on an Android device than on an iPhone, iPad or iPod touch.

http://pages.crittercism.com/m... [crittercism.com]

Slash-Ad alert (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47493791)

The site is so new it even has as Just another WordPress site as title, and the product images link to the ... images.

Sailfish could do this as well (4, Interesting)

CRCulver (715279) | about 2 months ago | (#47493839)

Nokia N900 owners can tell you of installing EasyDebian on their phones to run e.g. desktop Firefox and LibreOffice. As Sailfish inherits much of the same functionality, and it can run Android apps, I imagine that we might see EasyDebian on Jolla phones eventually. Apparently the only obstacle is that EasyDebian requires X11, but Sailfish doesn't have it, but this may be resolved with increasing uptake of Wayland within the Debian project.

Ten Reasons Why I Am No Longer a Leftist (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47493869)

Ten Reasons Why I Am No Longer a Leftist

By Danusha V. Goska

The left's visceral hatred of poor whites overflowed like a broken sewer when John McCain chose Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate in 2008. It would be impossible, and disturbing, to attempt to identify the single most offensive comment that leftists lobbed at Palin. One can report that attacks on Palin were so egregious that leftists themselves publicly begged that they cease; after all, they gave the left a bad name. The Reclusive Leftist blogged in 2009 that it was a "major shock" to discover "the extent to which so many self-described liberals actually despise working people." The Reclusive Leftist focuses on Vanity Fair journalist Henry Rollins. Rollins recommends that leftists "hate-fuck conservative women" and denounces Palin as a "small town hickoid" who can be bought off with a coupon to a meal at a chain restaurant.

Drivel (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47493881)

What the fuck is a "native ARM experience" supposed to be? Can we just shoot people who write that sort of crap?

Re:Drivel (1)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | about 2 months ago | (#47495609)

Unfortunately not. What is going to happen is, a bunch of marketing clowns are going to latch onto that term, and publicize it far and wide before the year is out.

Re:Drivel (1)

goarilla (908067) | about 3 months ago | (#47499041)

I guess it means that the apk's run on Dalvik or Art straight on the machine instead of in the emulator.

Re:Drivel (1)

ahaweb (762825) | about 3 months ago | (#47502505)

What about the NDK, which most apps use?

"here on the Android side" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47493905)

This separation looks as annoying as Windows 8

Re:"here on the Android side" (1)

ray-auch (454705) | about 2 months ago | (#47494819)

AC above beat me to it - my thoughts exactly.

Take designed-for-desktop/laptop-mouse+keyboard Linux stuff and bolt it together with designed-for-mobile+touch+one-app-fullscreen Android stuff on the same device.

Nope, can't see what could possibly go wrong, sure it will be entirely intuitive and seamless... after all Win 8 was.

Re:"here on the Android side" (1)

Rob Y. (110975) | about 2 months ago | (#47495599)

You have a point. Of course, there are differences. This gives you desktop apps on ARM, unlike Windows RT. And the mobile apps you get are Android ones - i.e., there are mobile apps. The joining of the two is just as awkward (perhaps even more so) than in windows 8. But at least you're getting the apps you want - and oh, by the way, it's all free. It would be nicer if they somehow managed to run Android apps windowed on the Debian side - kind of like Windows 9 is promising to do...

Re:"here on the Android side" (1)

jedidiah (1196) | about 2 months ago | (#47495607)

In other words: "because Microsoft can't do then no one can".

The entire history of computing pretty much points out how wrong that proposition is. It's more like "If Micrososft can't do it then EVERYONE ELSE can, will, and have done it for 10 years prior".

Just use a little intelligence or barring that, allow the end user to decide which mode to operate. Also don't GUT one of the modes in question while you're at it.

Re:"here on the Android side" (1)

exomondo (1725132) | about 2 months ago | (#47496809)

In other words: "because Microsoft can't do then no one can".

It's not just Microsoft there's also Ubuntu's Unity and the pretty much universally unused Launchpad in OSX then you have this VolksPC implementation which if anything is even more jarring than Windows 8. There's been hardware to do it with for years now, even Microsoft's own Surface Pro line can run Linux and Android. I'm not saying it's impossible just because nobody has done it, but there's been ample time and still nobody has got it even close yet.

It's more like "If Micrososft can't do it then EVERYONE ELSE can, will, and have done it for 10 years prior".

So where is it then?

RPI (1)

wb8nbs (174741) | about 2 months ago | (#47493949)

Somebody try this on a Raspberry Pi!

Re:RPI (1)

johnsie (1158363) | about 2 months ago | (#47494005)

No download available on their site.

So wheres the download link? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47494017)

And what hardware can it run on?

Fir5t (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47494079)

"Just another WordPress site" (3, Informative)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | about 2 months ago | (#47494111)

When I go to the main volkspc.org url, it's titled 'Just another WordPress site". When I look at all the links on the page, it's essentially several categories of vapor. Some photoshopped images of 'hardware' and even a 'software' page with a single YouTube video to watch, and no links whatsoever to any software. The only link on the FAQ page is titled 'unified distribution' but just loops back to the 'sofware' page with it's YouTube video.

It certainly looks like 'just another WordPress site' to me.

This is good! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47494203)

I want to run android apps natively on my desktop/laptop! Now!

Re:This is good! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47496499)

Yes! Nothing is more desirable than the ability to run shitty simplistic apps alongside much more capable ones.

I also would really like to get Google's invasive behaviour even more intertwined with my grown-up computers. Sign me up!

Can't await (1)

angel'o'sphere (80593) | about 2 months ago | (#47494207)

Something like this should run on ebook readers like the Nook or the Kobo.
That would be something!

Move along (3, Informative)

emblemparade (774653) | about 2 months ago | (#47494469)

No software downloads, and apparently not open source nor free software. And also their hardware is not yet available.

Who tagged this "Ubuntu"? No relation.

Re:Move along (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47497863)

What I would do is combine android and Debian so that the android apps would run like
native Debian apps and then release this as open source and also free as in beer.

Honestly, Android is not really that different from other desktop applications other than it runs in full screen mode.
 

Re:Move along (1)

vandamme (1893204) | about 3 months ago | (#47501441)

Maybe they learned promotion from Mark Shuttlesworth.

Two words: No Fuck! (1)

Optali (809880) | about 3 months ago | (#47502931)

I need it !! Mate, I'm totally going to install that on my ancient Acer ONE!!!
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