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OS X 10.1 Coming Today (Sorta)

CmdrTaco posted more than 12 years ago | from the free-upgrades-that-cost-money dept.

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usa35.com writes "News.com has a story detailing the release of Apple's 10.1 update. They say "unveiled" today, probably meaning actually disseminated to us general public folks sometime in the coming days." This is of course the release that regular users can actually use. Supposedly this is a free upgrade. Speed improvements, UI fixes, DVD stuffs. I can't wait to test it out a little. And those new iBooks are pretty reasonably priced (I figure that they can sell them cheap by cutting corners like most of the mouse buttons ;)

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pf (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347009)

pf doods.. :)

This is the software.... (1, Funny)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347055)

that controlls the remote cameras that X10.com sells, right?

BUY X10 STOCK NOW!!! (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347104)

I just heard that the NSA placed an order for 10,000,000,000 of those hi-tech wireless cameras!

Wow... (1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347012)

You're going to try it out a little? Better not say "a lot" or "I might even use it full time," or Linus will revoke your charter.

Don't hold your breath (-1)

Spootnik (518145) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347089)

Linus will not revoke CmdrTaco's charter any time soon, he needs him for sexual favor.

Re:Wow... (0)

bliss (21836) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347120)

"You're going to try it out a little? Better not say "a lot" or "I might even use it full time," or Linus will revoke your charter."

There isn't much chance of that happening. Linux really has a the advantage of being theoretically in constant development for decades. OSX will be gone the minute the company loses interest

Re:Wow... (-1)

cyborg_monkey (150790) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347170)

Yes, wow! You are posting at zero!

Re:Wow... (1)

rm-r (115254) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347206)

Linux really has a the advantage of being theoretically in constant development for decades.

And MacOS X doesn't have this? In case you haven't been paying attention, X is unix underneath- about the only thing left from the NeXT computer- and can so claim that same *theoretical* decades long constant development.

Re:Wow... (0)

Kinson Ravenlock (522663) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347234)

I am going to try it out. Unix based stuff is for me!

Re:Wow... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347285)

You're going to try it out a little? Better not say "a lot" or "I might even use it full time," or Linus will revoke your charter.

Now you're being mod'd a troll, kind of proves the point doesn't it? This site is now in the pocket of LinuxCorps- and has been since the andover buyout. It's a real shame, this used to be a news site- but you can't trust news when its in the pay of a master it should report on.

Is it faster? (1)

shaka (13165) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347014)

It will be fun hear about the much talked about interface speed-ups. Someone who has seen it in action and can confirm?
When I tried it, it was slower that X & Gnome...

Re:Is it faster? (1)

AtaruMoroboshi (522293) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347056)

os x really depends heavily on how much ram you have, and your processor speed.

Based on what i saw at macworld a few months ago, 10.1 is waaaay faster.

Re:Is it faster? -- iBook? (1)

dcheest (463877) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347112)

Specifically, is it bearable on a new iBook? When I tried 10.04 on a new iBook it was like running Windows 2000 on a Pentium 133 (DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME KIDS!) If they have the windowing optimized enough to run on an iBook I may just part with $1500 this week!

Re:Is it faster? -- iBook? (0)

bliss (21836) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347149)

"Specifically, is it bearable on a new iBook? When I tried 10.04 on a new iBook it was like running Windows 2000 on a Pentium 133 (DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME KIDS!) If they have the windowing optimized enough to run on an iBook I may just part with $1500 this week!"

Or you can get a decent PC for the exact same price and run something that dosn't match your sofa.

Re:Is it faster? -- iBook? (1)

AtaruMoroboshi (522293) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347173)


the ibook ships with FAR too little ram. Pop 256 more or even a 512 into it, and you'll be golden, especially with the optomized 10.1

Re:Is it faster? -- iBook? (2, Informative)

narf (207) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347197)

I have 10.1 (5G64 - RC1) running on a ice-book with 256 megs of RAM, and it's yummy. The biggest problem I have found is that the subtitles/overlays in the DVD player are offset.

Re:Is it faster? -- iBook? (2, Informative)

mchiang (458598) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347228)

I have used a beta build (5G48) on my B&W G3/400 for the last couple weeks. Mac OS X 10.1 performance is leaps above 10.0.4. Applications launch faster. The Finder is not sluggish and the scroll wheel finally works. Columns can be individually resized in column view. Classic mode (Mac OS 9 compatibility) performance is much improved.


Performance feels on par or better than the Asus A7V/Duron/700/Mandrake 8.0/KDE that sits next to it.


I had been holding off using Mac OS X as my everyday OS until now. 10.1 will go on my TiBook as soon as it's released.

Re:Is it faster? (1)

azatoth (3621) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347178)

I'm using it for one week now, it's really an improvement. Aqua is now normaly fast.

I'm sticked to MacOS X since I tried 10.1 (before I could'nt stand it, was too slow).

And the DVD player works ;-) (cannot always say the same with most players under windows).

20 (-1)

okmar (266773) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347016)

seconds

Re:20 (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347030)

seconds are faster [slashdot.org] with Opera [opera.no] .

Your comment violated the postercomment compression filter. Comment aborted

Re:20 (-1)

okmar (266773) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347049)

...even faster w/out pretty widgets.

Re:20 (-1)

handybundler (232934) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347100)

AC modded to +1? That's retarded.

Since the Xbox is delayed (-1, Offtopic)

SpanishInquisition (127269) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347018)

Kids will always have the Mac to play with.

w00t! (-1)

trollercoaster (250101) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347023)

Swaziland Imposes a Five-Year Sex Ban on Young Women
Dolar Vasani, South Africa
*******************

The Swaziland government has announced a five-year sex ban for young women
in a bid to combat the spread of HIV/AIDS. The ban was announced Sunday
evening by the leader of Swaziland's young women, Lungile Ndlovu, who said
the elders of the nation had deemed it fitting.

"During this period you will be expected to observe a five-year sex ban, no
shaking of hands with males, no wearing of pants and you will be expected
to wear woolen tassels wherever you go for the next five years," Ndlovu
said at the end of lengthy celebrations to mark the Swazi king's 33rd
birthday.

Ndlovu did not specify what age group the ban was trying to target, but
said women who were in relationships and older than 19 years would be
expected to wear red with black tassels, and those still virgins will wear
blue with yellow.

Her announcement was met by howls of protest. The ban follows an
announcement by King Mswati III on Friday that Swaziland would revive the
"umchwasho" chastity rite to preserve virginity among girls and combat
AIDS. Under the rite, the girls wear woolen "do not touch me" tassels of
different colours depending on their ages.

Ndlovu said the tradition of preserving maidens' chastity -- known as
Imabali YeMaswati or Flower of the Nation) -- will be policed by
traditional chiefs who still rule over much of Swazi society. Any man who
failed to observe the rules would be fined 1,300 Emalangeni (about 152
dollars) or one cow.

oh my dear lord (1, Funny)

jeffehobbs (419930) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347033)

shut up about the mouse buttons already.

~jeff

Re:oh my dear lord (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347079)

He's just trying to start another flamewar, even though whenever anything Apple is discussed on here one is inevitable anyways. Why else would he specifically mention the price and mouse buttons^H?

Re:oh my dear lord (0, Interesting)

The_Messenger (110966) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347241)

CmdrTaco isn't really what you'd call "hardware savvy." He thinks that Michael Dell will hunt him down and beat him to a pulp if he replaces the Dell-branded keyboard on his Windows PC. He doesn't understand that all problems with Apple's mouse can be remedied in two simple steps: buy another mouse, and plug it in. But, CmdrTaco is something of a fucking retard (a "fucktard") -- he'd probably try to get some sort of refund from Apple for the "mouse tax."

News to lamers: if you don't want a PC with Windows, don't buy an OEM PC. News to CmdrTaco: if you don't want a one-button mouse, don't buy an Apple.

Fucktards.

Affordable (0, Flamebait)

The Gardener (519078) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347044)

The new version will be available from Mac dealers and Apple's own retail stores at no cost for existing OS X owners. Everyone else will pay $129 .

M$ could take a lesson from Apple. "Second edition" bug fix releases sure aren't free, and full versions aren't $129.00.

Oh yeah, Apple doesn't have a Monopoly to screw us with.

The Gardener

Re:Affordable (1)

alnapp (321260) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347078)

Oh yeah, Apple doesn't have a Monopoly to screw us with

Apple DID have one and it didn't and now its a minor player.
Whilst I don't like it, its not suprising MS do now they have.

Does that make sense?

Re:Affordable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347118)

Stfu, before you give every /.er a migrane due to your bad grammar.

Re:Affordable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347300)

No

Re:Affordable (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347207)

Im sorry dude but you cant say that apple are not screwing us when they are still charging for a OS's based on a free OS's, FreeBSD.

Also to even use this OS you have to buy a Apple computer and this suck's since it is normally more expensive then it's 86 counter part.


Apple are still a couporation and like any entity they are out to make money, just because they dont have a monopoly doesnt mean that they do not what to screw us. There are lots of example's where they have acted like even bigger arsehole's then M$.

This is what 10.0 should have been (4, Informative)

Ryan Amos (16972) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347045)

I'm sorry, but 10.0 was a very... incomplete release. It was sluggish, didn't have important things like DVD or CD-RW capabilities, plus it didn't always work correctly. 10.1, on the other hand, is just incredible. The speed increases are phenomenal (from 50-400%, depending on your CPU) and the added functionality and general GUI cleanup are much welcomed. 10.0 always had sort of a beta feel to it, but 10.1 feels like a sleek, finished OS. Kudos to Apple for the great job.

Re:This is what 10.0 should have been (1)

Pravada (217899) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347109)

Right on. I've been using it on my G3 Powerbook for the last week or so, and it is _very_ good. Fast, stable, the ui tweaks are nice, and best of all, it can play DVD's!
But truth be told, this is what 10.0 should have been, and Apple really screwed the pooch by rushing out what really was a beta (or RC1 at best). Lots of people were turned off by 10.0 and ain't gonna switch to 10.1 until Office, Photoshop, et al are out. When Office X comes out in November, I'll be happy.

Re:This is what 10.0 should have been (0, Troll)

b0r1s (170449) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347132)

And when microsoft releases software that's slow, and buggy, and then fixes it later, everyone bitches ....

hypocrisy and jealousy on slashdot are pathetic.

Re:This is what 10.0 should have been (5, Insightful)

2nd Post! (213333) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347181)

Well that's the difference between a typical Mac user and a typical PC user; most PC users 'settle' for Microsoft, either cause it's what everyone else uses or because it's the only thing they know or they think Macs are expensive.

Apple's customers usually choose Macs in spite of, despite the prevailing norm of the PC users.

So Apple users will tolerate this kind of thing (oh, they'll complain), as long as it will improve. PC users, on the other hand, bitch because Microsoft doesn't truly mean anything to them, and Microsoft grows lazy, assuming things just because they own 90% of the market.

On the other hand Mac users are spoiled... what Windows OS comes with CD burning and DVD playback out of the box? Or even CD ripping and mp3 encoding, movie making, DVD burning software, and web server software out of the box? Windows users have to settle for Windows Media Player and Internet Explorer, on the average...

Re:This is what 10.0 should have been (1)

Dutchmaan (442553) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347232)

Careful what you wish for...

I have no love of MS, but what you just said was kind of what the DOJ is fighting against... Do you really want MS bundled with a Googleplex of bundled MS only software?

Re:This is what 10.0 should have been (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347280)

Umm, can you say Win98? i have a 3 year old box here - among others including a new P4 and 4 macs - the oldest, the athalon, had win98 on it, a DVD-CD and plaed DVD movies out of the box - you mac only users need to get a clue - every thing thats cross platfor - especially Linux, runs much faster on Intel hardware - i too was once a die hard Mac fan, not anymore. Jobs deliberately forces upgrades of various fashions on Mac users, whether they want them or not, the hardware, while good, is incredibly overpriced - ever see the price of a dual processor MB with on the board Ultra160(3) Scsi? i can build one, repleate with drives and two 1ghz plus chips for half of what a Dual G4 costs - you guys need to get a clue.

Jobs told Time magazine, when asked in 1996 what he would do if he were running Apple, that he "would milk it to death" - and he is.

Anyone who has used Gnome or KDE knows where Jobs stole most of the OS, hell, Next was much more stable and far faster then OSX.

Re:This is what 10.0 should have been (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347201)

Well, I really don't know how you are able to say this.


I mean, let's at least wait until Microsoft, one blessed day, DOES fix the slow buggy software they release.


Then we'll find out if people bitch about it.

Re:This is what 10.0 should have been (1)

macsforever2001 (32278) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347278)

hypocrisy and jealousy on slashdot are pathetic.

Blanket labeling of everyone on Slashdot is worse.

M$ apologists go away!

Re:This is what 10.0 should have been (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347153)

Uh huh, let's slam MS for every little bug and service pack and praise Apple for "doing a great job" when in fact it has done the exact same thing. Yet another victim of BeelzeJob's brainwashing.

Re:This is what 10.0 should have been (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347155)

While I agree completely with your statements, recall that even apple said that 10.0 was more of a preview release than anything else. It was to get the software out to the masses (developers and not), so they could at least gain some experience with it. OSX was one of the primary decisions driving me to buy an iBook (Linux runs quite nicely on it too, except sound). In all, I wasn't expecting it to be sleek and spiffy the first time around. Look at windows; it's taken how many tries to get a usable product (not including the patches to every seperate OS). I'm really looking forward to messing with 10.1 as soon as I can.

Sounds like Windows (2)

wiredog (43288) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347183)

Which means you have to wait for the third release (10.2?) for it to be really useful.

Re:Sounds like Windows (1)

2nd Post! (213333) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347247)

Oh, I thought you were gonna say 'It sounds like Windows... sluggish and without the important things, like CD-RW or DVD capabilities (built in), plus it doesn't always work correctly. I know, I know, on Windows you can dl or borrow a copy of EZ-CD Creator or something... and Roxio has yet to release OS X support...

Re:This is what 10.0 should have been (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347320)

10.0 needed to go out when it did. Don't fool yourself into thinking that even Apple believed that 10.0 was done. They may be installing it on every machine they ship, but it is NOT the default OS.

Be glad that Apple did put out 10.0 though, because developers needed something that wasn't a Beta to develop on ;)

on x86 (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347047)

is there anyway to run this on intel x86 machine ?

Re:on x86 (4, Informative)

Spencerian (465343) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347096)

Not OS X per se, but its core software, Darwin, is essentially an open source BSD release. Quite a lot of work has been done on it. You can't run OS X-specific apps (things that expect the Aqua interface), but Linux and UNIX apps should port as well as they do in OS X.

It's the power and integration of the Macintosh hardware and software that makes OS X shine. Even if Apple chose to port the Whole Thing to x86, you would need a much more fortified PC than you would normally buy off the street.

Better than nothing, or maybe just do FreeBSD. Try www.darwinfo.org.

Re:on x86 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347160)

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Re:on x86 (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347190)

You are truly one motherfucking deranged mutant.

Keep up the good work!

Don't try this at home (-1)

Spootnik (518145) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347048)

The mouse buttons are pretty sharp if you can cut corners with it.

Speedups? (-1, Flamebait)

Tyler Eaves (344284) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347050)

So now it has prehaps gone from "Glacial" to "Molasses"?

Re:Speedups? (1)

AtaruMoroboshi (522293) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347081)


have you used it?

have you used it on an officially supported machine?

have you used it on said machine with a reasonable (256 megs or more) amount of ram?

Re:Speedups? (2)

znu (31198) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347126)

Nope. It's pretty damn speedy on my 400 MHz G3 and my iBook 2001. True, these machines have 512 MB and 256 MB of RAM, respectively, but RAM is so cheap these days....

Legacy Appletalk (3, Informative)

wmulvihillDxR (212915) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347057)

There is also talk of it finally fixing legacy appletalk support (not TCP/IP based). Yeah I know, move to NFS, be a real man, etc... But a lot of my co-workers are stuck in a MacOS less than 10. Makes it difficult. Not to mention that you can't communicate properly with a Linux server running netatalk. I can't wait!

Re:Legacy Appletalk (2)

znu (31198) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347166)

Mac OS versions going back at least as far as 8.0 can mount AppleShare volumes over TCP/IP, and 9.0 and later can serve AppleShare over TCP/IP. So can netatalk+asun [anders.com] , which I run on my NetBSD box.

Re:Legacy Appletalk (2)

wmulvihillDxR (212915) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347251)

Yes I know. But our main file server is very OLD. No TCP/IP there. :) Plus about half of my co-workers have OS less than 9 and thus can't share via TCP/IP (people like to dump all sorts of things on their own shared folders). Oh well.

Re:Legacy Appletalk (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347218)

I have no problem with FreeBSD and Netatalk

Re:Legacy Appletalk (1)

azatoth (3621) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347238)

I don't remember if it was in 10.0.4 but now if you go to finder:go:connect to a server
you get a kind of chooser where you can see all your macs (and use them of course).

File sharing is working also (but you have to give the IP# of the OS X server on the classic mac client).

Hope this answers your question. For me it means it works :-)

Got it.... (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347060)

I've been using 5G64 since it was released to us ADC members, supposedly it's the GM. It's everything that Steve claims it to be,

it must be spring in some part of the world (4, Funny)

paulschreiber (113681) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347063)

'cause that's when Steve said we'd get DVD playback. :)

Paul

Re:it must be spring in some part of the world (2)

Pope (17780) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347189)

If it's Autumn in Ermerica, it's Springtime in OZ!

Get an update (maybe) (5, Informative)

update() (217397) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347067)

Rumor has it that Apple Stores have been burning free update CD's for customers who bring in a blank CD-ROM. Sounds ridiculous, but As The Apple Turns [appleturns.com] claims they're continuing to get reports of it happening, and someone wrote to them claiming CompUSA will do something similar. (If it's off the front page when you read it, go to Monday's stories, or search for id#3317.)

Sounds crazy, but it's Apple so nothing is ever out of the question.

Re:Get an update (maybe) (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347314)

I was told by an Apple employee at a local CompUSA that if one HAPPENS to bring in a blank CD-R and can demonstrate they already own OS X, CompUSA will be happy to provide a demonstration on the burning capabilities of the Macs they just HAPPEN to have OS X.1 installed on.

Hey Muslim pigs ! (-1, Offtopic)

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APSL a new version of 'free' (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347077)

Free as in "speech," free as in "beer," and now free as in "$20."

Yet another innovation from Apple.

Apple? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347080)

They're still around?
I thought they bit the big one with all the dot-bombs that purchased their overpriced, underpowered shite.


(score: -pi, inciteful)

Re:Apple? (1)

Spencerian (465343) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347122)

Bite us, you coward.

Try making that Gateway POS handle professional quality digital video and playback in your lifetime.

Re:Apple? (-1, Offtopic)

b0r1s (170449) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347168)

Bite us, you coward.

Us? I see you. and you alone. If you feel the need to stand up for what you believe in, stand alone, and be proud of it, dont try to act like y ou're part of a larger, greater movement, you coward.

ibooks don't come with mice (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347083)

ibooks don't come with mice, so they've actually cut more corners than that when it comes to ibooks, eh?

Macslash (3, Informative)

joel8x (324102) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347086)

Macslash has a thread going about the release and a lot of developers with Betas are reporting some significant improvements in speed - most notibly the time to load apps in native and classic modes.

YAHOO! (2, Insightful)

dasmegabyte (267018) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347087)

I've been using OSX for a while, and it is a real dog on any chip other than a G4. It's always been usable, but the windows don't have the snap-into-action feel that they need to satisfy an old Win2k afficianado such as myself. Furthermore, the OS was missing a lot of essential features, DVD being the most prominent, that are coming in full effect. Also exciting is the movement of a couple of important indicators to the empty space on the apple bar...my dock quickly fills up and I can't wait to lose things like the battery indicator that don't really need to be so big. Here's hoping the developers of such great dock apps as LoadInDock, Memory Manager, TempInDock (immeasurably useful, so you don't put a 140 degree lappy onto your legs while wearing shorts) and so on. It seems most of the visibility "enhancements" are just the hidden options in OS 10.4, unlockable via tweak panels...but it'll be nice to have more efficient effects like the scale available from a System Preference.

Ahhh, 10.1...OSX is finally a real operating system. Thank you, blue fairy!

No big whoop (0, Troll)

Rogerborg (306625) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347110)

Huh, I can upgrade a crappy old Win95 install to the equivelant of WinME by downloading only 500+Mb of files straight from Microsoft, assuming that their site hasn't been virused or DOS'd or DNS hacked or just switched off by mistake. That gives me an OS that's far more stable... not, wait... that looks totally different... no, hang on, that's not it. Something is different though... Ah! It needs twice the memory and runs half as fast. So it must be better, and it didn't cost me a penny to get there, other than the three days out of my life to download each patch one at a time then reboot.

Apple could learn a lesson from this.

Or maybe they already did. ;)

Yay for Slashdot (0, Flamebait)

eAndroid (71215) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347119)

Slashdot has gotten into the Apple rumor mongering! I'll start us off down the necessary path:

What else could Steve J be revealing today? I think that aren't quite right for the but I think that we're long over do for . I can't wait!

OS X 10.1? (5, Funny)

kievit (303920) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347123)

I see a pleonasm there. Shouldn't it be OS X.1?

Re:OS X 10.1? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347219)

I hoped for CI/X

Re:OS X 10.1? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347267)

No, it should be X.I...
0101.1

Re:OS X 10.1? (1)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347271)

you mean OSX.I

Are office applications optimized for 10.X? (2, Interesting)

JustinLong (524281) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347125)

I used to work for a company that had a mixed environment of Macs and PCs. The one thing we discovered was that some applications (notably Foxpro, etc.) worked far slower on the Macs. I'm not sure but I was guessing that this was an optimization issue... So is there a noticeable speed difference still between apps optimized on the PC and not for the Mac, and vice versa? In our office right now we mostly use PCs but have a couple of Macs for graphic design and audio work.

Re:Are office applications optimized for 10.X? (2, Informative)

Spencerian (465343) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347194)

It's a little early to tell, but the design of the OS should get rid of a lot of this. When apps are ported, the peculiarities of the OS get in the way. The original Mac OS code handled apps differently than more modern (though not necessarily better) OSs like Windows. Porting was HARD. Today, I've personally downloaded and installed software written specifically for Linux and UNIX and used it on Mac OS X without modification. Sure, that's not OS X native, but its native enough. For many *nix apps out there, it's a matter of throwing an interface on it to make it available in Aqua.

My assessment is that, if the application was built for UNIX or cocoa (Mac OS X/OpenStep/Objective C design), it will sing in OS X, especially with the OS X 10.1 optimizations. I'm sure Office v.X will enjoy much of these optimizations, but it's still Microsoft who produces it (although the Mac division does its best to ignore that, it seems).

Re:Are office applications optimized for 10.X? (2)

znu (31198) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347196)

Office for OS X isn't shipping until November, so there's no way to know. But there are rumors that Microsoft will post a free preview version of Word v.X today.

Links (4, Informative)

tomknight (190939) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347138)

Okay, here's a karma whoring link - it's the official news release from Apple. I find it a bit odd that the cnet article doesn't appear to contain a link to them...

http://www.apple.com/macosx/newversion/ [apple.com]

Tom.

Developer Tools (4, Interesting)

Zergwyn (514693) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347141)

Besides the obviously needed increases in speed, DVD playback finally works(even better then in OS9 in build 5G64). Also it has much improved Windows interoperability. Apple will be including an SMB client to go with Samba in 10.1.


However, one thing that worries me is whether or not they will include Dev Tools. I bought OSX 10.0 when if first came out, and it came with the disc. The Dev Tools include important things like a compiler for making other programs from the Terminal, and fun things like a Java browser, OpenGL stuff, etc. However, they were not included with my new computer. While I already owned them, so I just loaded them myself, I hope that people won't have to pay $129 just to get some tools that should come with new machines. Thanks Apple, you based the system on BSD, but don't forget the tools we need to really write with it!

Re:Developer Tools (3, Informative)

znu (31198) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347209)

The developer tools are a free download from Apple [apple.com] (you have to sign up for a free developer account). I'm sure the new OS 10.1 tools will show up there soon.

Re:Developer Tools (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347261)

You can download the newest version from ADC (Apple Developer Connection), connect.apple.com [apple.com] (I think), signup (free) and you'll find it somewhere under downloads.

This lama filter is so going to screw me...

Waita minute... (1, Redundant)

chinton (151403) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347143)

Shouldn't it be OS X.1???

:^)

Actually, it is, dumbass. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347187)

But thank you for your input all the same. No, really.

Re:Waita minute... (1)

flufffy (192294) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347288)

oh ess eks dot eye?

can't wait (for example) for oh ess eks dot eye vee

Destroy Islam. Exterminate Muslims. Kill Them All. (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347152)

The tormented dead scream out for vengeance:
  1. Kill all Muslims.
  2. Kill all Mohammedans.
  3. Kill all Arabs.
  4. Kill all Towel Heads.
  5. Kill all Camel Jockeys.
  6. Kill all Dune Coons.
  7. Kill all Islam.
  8. Nuke their countries to hell.
  9. Nuke them again.
  10. Death to Islam.

I menstruate on Mecca. I shit on the Koran. I spit upon Mohammed.

Lay off the mouse buttons! (4, Troll)

megaduck (250895) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347157)

Darnit Taco, please join the present. I'm currently using an Intellimouse Explorer on my Mac, and I've got five mouse buttons plus a scroll wheel. They all work quite well, thank you. If you really want a multi-button mouse for your iBook, just plug one into the USB port. You don't even have to reboot.

I know you meant it as a joke, but statements like that smell a lot like a troll. Please try not to taunt your audience.

Re:Lay off the mouse buttons! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347308)

Well I have a 101-button mouse, with useful buttons like 'Enter' and 'Page Up'. It is SO COOL

Slightly missing the point of "slowness" (5, Insightful)

A_Non_Moose (413034) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347171)

Ok the 10.0.4 boxes I ran at work and home were slow in the aqua gui, truely, but as far as I/O,
processing, task switching, serving web/ftp...they all kicked ass to say the least.

For all the unix'ey love fests that take place on /. most here would be pleased to know that it is not BSD/Darwin that is slow, but the Aqua gui that ppl are bitching and moaning about (with good reason, IMO).

Lack of features, nope, not for what I used it for: Surfing, SETI, FTP, pr0n watching, vcd (mpg1, naturally), ssh, classic apps...it did it all with nary a hitch (just don't leave a DVD in the drive...kernel panic w/o fail on my box).

So, yeah 10.1 is a drool inducer ooo-ooo, shiney *blue* objects!!! (kiki the ferret voice) and dvd, speed tweaks and some needed + native cocoa apps are well and good, but I hope the OS's speed does not suffer, gui be damned.
(can you tell I'm a CLI type?)

Moose.

la la laaaaaa

You mean X.I, right? (0, Redundant)

mtm (10808) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347176)

Sounds weird to me to here OS X 10.1.

Reminds me of ATM machines and FAT testing.

Yay Apple! (0, Flamebait)

simetra (155655) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347204)

I wish I could afford to buy a brand new computer every time Apple made an improvement!

"Free" A Questionable Term (1, Troll)

waldoj (8229) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347227)

I guess if you think that $20 [macslash.com] is a fair amount to pay for shipping then, yeah, it's free.

-Waldo

Re:"Free" A Questionable Term (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347275)

I guess if you're not mentally retarded and were capable of reading (as in, the article), you'd know that Apple is giving them to their retailers, as well as their retail stores, to give away for FREE. As in, NO CHARGE. So if you think that $0 is a fair price to pay for getting off your lazy ass and going to pick it up, then yeah, it's free.

Fucking imbecile.

Mozilla MP Compatibility With 10.1 (4, Informative)

Cheese Man (167190) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347233)

For those of us who also happen to own a multi-processor machine and have been unable to run Mozilla as a native OS X app, it looks like part of the problem was with 10.0.4's MP support and will be fixed in 10.1. For more info, check out this bugzilla bug [mozilla.org] .

Perhaps this could even mean an end to the dial-up disconnection woes, as those, too, were MP related. (For those of you blissfully unaware, MP machines with a dial-up modem connection had a tendency to randomly drop said connection.)

All in all, very good news, especially since Apple appears to have listened to its customers and will be making the upgrade free.

OS 10.1 MS Word v X and fun ! (5, Interesting)

SirStanley (95545) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347240)

With 10.1 not only do I get dvd play back on a "Unix Based" os but MS is releasing a preview version of Word X. Now before you Anti-MS Dolts get your panties tied in a Knot. If you don't use Macs and haven't seen Microsoft's Mac software. You're missing out. MSIE:MAC Runs better than it does under windows. (There goes that whole its only "Faster" Cause its integrated into the OS Theory) And Microsoft Office for the Mac has consistently been the most useful Office Suite on the market. Star Office doesn't have anything on it. And Office:Mac has consistently blown the pants off of Office:windows For a long time.

But anyways. Check out the Microsoft mac stuff at www.microsoft.com/mac/ and just drool over screen shots of Office v X

And on a final Note. I love my TiPB I love OSX and I don't understand how I used anything other htan it for all those years.

Re:OS 10.1 MS Word v X and fun ! (1)

desideria (140436) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347272)

I've been using a beta of Office X for about a month now, and i have to admit it's great.

OS X 10.1 is quite fast (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 12 years ago | (#2347286)

I installed it on a G3/500 Blue and White over the weekend (build 5G64 - the GM) and it is wildly fast. Boots the computer from button-push to full in 45 seconds. Opens applications easily 15 times faster (I did a check against 10.0.4 on another partition). Makes my old G3 *feel* like a G4. All in all, I'd have to say they have outdone themselves in this release (or spoiled us by giving us a really slow one first). I invite all Linux-heads to give it a shot - you may be surprised!

DVD FYI- Older Macs (3, Informative)

Zergwyn (514693) | more than 12 years ago | (#2347337)

I have used some of the earlier builds of OSX(though I haven't gotten the latest yet). It should be noted for build 5G64, which I have heard is the Golden Master, DVD playback will not work on Macs that use hardware DVD-decoding(ie. B&W G3 or Yikes G4/PCI with DVD piggyback card, Lombard G3/400 models and perhaps Wallstreet PB G3s with the DVD decoder PC Card). Since some of these computers are the very ones that would most benefit from an OS speed increase, potential owners should check with Apple, or they might have to be prepared to continue using OS9 a little bit longer. Newer macs that use software decoding work great.
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