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Mac OS X Yosemite Beta Opens

Unknown Lamer posted about 3 months ago | from the smells-like-system-7 dept.

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New submitter David Hames (3763525) writes Would you like to test drive the newest release of the Macintosh operating system? Apple is opening up the beta for Mac OS X Yosemite starting Thursday to the first million people who sign up. Beta users won't be able to access such promised Yosemite features such as the ability to make or receive your iPhone calls or text messages on your Mac, turn on your iPhone hotspot feature from your Mac, or "Handoff" the last thing you were doing on your iOS 8 device to your Mac and vice versa. A new iCloud Drive feature is also off-limits, while any Spotlight search suggestions are U.S.-based only. Don't expect all your Mac apps to run either. Ars has a preview of Yosemite.

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Would love to give it a whirl... (1)

primebase (9535) | about 3 months ago | (#47523429)

...except that my "redemption code" which pops me over to the App Store says "This code has already been redeemed". Did we break their site already?

Re:Would love to give it a whirl... (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about 3 months ago | (#47523599)

Apparently yes. They went offline already with a "we are updating the site" message.

Re:Would love to give it a whirl... (1)

Stratus311 (894962) | about 3 months ago | (#47523645)

Maybe they gave everybody the same redemption code. Bastards. I want my free beta OS!

Re:Would love to give it a whirl... (0)

bkmoore (1910118) | about 3 months ago | (#47523657)

Maybe they gave everybody the same redemption code. ...!

And the code is 1 - 2 - 3 - 4. Funny, that's the same code on my luggage.

Tried the AppStore help form... (1)

primebase (9535) | about 3 months ago | (#47524087)

...and got a gigantically unhelpful email from someone who obviously didn't bother to pay attention to my support ticket. It helpfully informed me that 1) the code was already redeemed, 2) they couldn't tell me who did that due to privacy, and 3) told me to have a nice day.

I miss the days when Steve would come in and yell at people, relentlessly, for not doing their [ redacted ]-ing jobs, at all.

Re:Would love to give it a whirl... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47524501)

Why would I care to run this.. sure I got a macbook here at work but the only thing
I ever use is Terminal.app, ssh and firefox. I also got a macbook at home ( first and
last one ever ) and guess what ... at home the only things I use are .. Terminal.app,
ssh and firefox.

Sam I Am! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523441)

Not Son of Sam! Ruff!

Who is this aimed at? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523459)

"it doesn't blindly clone mobile design elements with no regard for how people use desktop operating systems"

Re:Who is this aimed at? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523745)

Everyone else: Microsoft Metro, Unity, GNOME3, KDE4, ChromeOS, ...

Re:Who is this aimed at? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523961)

Actually it's Modern UI, not Metro. Signed by your friendly grammar nazi. ;)

Yeesh (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523485)

The first two pages or the Ars thing are all fonts and flattened icons and such, while the last page is "Apple has done no harm to the Finder in Yosemite, but it hasn't fixed any of its problems either." and "Functionally, the Dock doesn't change much."
 
I'm glad to see Apple is spending its time focused on important things, like pushing its also-ran version of Windows UI aesthetics.

Flattened icons were good enough for Windows 3.0 (2)

zephvark (1812804) | about 3 months ago | (#47524573)

...and if they were good enough for my Dad, they're good enough for me.

It's always "change for the sake of upgrades" with these guys. Microsoft went from flat icons, to 3D icons tilted one way, to 3D icons tilted the other way, and now back to... flat, yes, I'm glad we're continuing to improve by revolving around in circles. Possibly they got the idea from the "busy" cursor.

Prepare to buy new copies of all your software because they have old-fashioned icons but, not sufficiently old-fashioned icons.

Windows 8 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523489)

Wow, they copied the horrible UI cues from Windows 8

Flat UI Design (4, Interesting)

TitusC3v5 (608284) | about 3 months ago | (#47523497)

Am I the only person who hates the flat UI style that Microsoft, Google, and Apple have all adopted? I hated it being shoved onto my iPhone, and now it looks like the same nonsense it coming to OSX.

Re:Flat UI Design (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523573)

You are probably not the only one; however there are plenty of people that are OK with the new design.

Re:Flat UI Design (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523575)

It's hideous; a plague pushed by "designers" who have run out of new ideas. You're not alone.

Re:Flat UI Design (2)

DarkOx (621550) | about 3 months ago | (#47523847)

Gotta join in on this here.

On the one hand it all evokes fond memories of CDE on the other hand CDE is open source now if what I wanted was CDE I could have it. I expect something better than this.

Re:Flat UI Design (4, Insightful)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 3 months ago | (#47523577)

Nope. While I agree that skeumorphism may have gone too far in previous designs, the shift to flat UI takes away from functionality sometimes. I want to clearly tell if something is touchable/clickable as opposed to nonfunctional text/graphics. All I can say is that it's not quite as bad as Metro/Modern. But that's not saying much.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

iluvcapra (782887) | about 3 months ago | (#47524533)

There are ways to express the clickability of a region without 3Ds, it's just Apple's approach (on iOS) at the moment is somewhat lackluster. Mac OS X NSButtons still have a eency bit of bezel.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 3 months ago | (#47524643)

And the buttons will change as you mouse over them so you can see what's going on. Windows 8 was much less obvious about what could be clicked on many times.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

dnebin (594347) | about 3 months ago | (#47524797)

I'm mixed. I prefer the glassy look of old, but at the same time I realize it takes more cpu to render it.

Well, I guess I'd rather have that little bit of cpu doing work for me rather than generating a pretty glassy look, I guess I'm in favor of it.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about 3 months ago | (#47523589)

I hate it too. It seems that almost no operating system has a cool-looking user interface right now. Of the available options, Ubuntu's Unity and Windows 7 look the best. Maybe GNOME3 comes after those.

Re:Flat UI Design (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523713)

Lol, KDE4 shits on each of those.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

just_another_sean (919159) | about 3 months ago | (#47523803)

E18 [enlightenment.org] eats all of them for breakfast!

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about 3 months ago | (#47523887)

Looks quite crusty to me.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | about 3 months ago | (#47524593)

Clearly you have never seen a properly tweaked KDE4 installation. I used to love enlightenment, but KDE4 blows it's doors in.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

Cley Faye (1123605) | about 3 months ago | (#47524021)

You could have formulated it better, but it's true that KDE don't try to change "for change sake". And even if it did, it's one of these desktop that still have relatively easy visual customization.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

jones_supa (887896) | about 3 months ago | (#47524353)

I'm not sure about that. It looks like KDE 5 [themukt.com] is adopting the flat look too.

Re:Flat UI Design (2)

Cinder6 (894572) | about 3 months ago | (#47524187)

I really wouldn't call Yosemite flat, even though a lot of tech sites claim it is. It has a lot more visual eye candy than Mavericks, IMO, what with all the transparency and other stuff. I think it looks pretty nice.

Re:Flat UI Design (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47524411)

The big benefit with these flat interfaces is that the icons are fairly trivial to represent with vector graphics. That means the whole operating system gets smaller (remember the insane 1024x1024 Vista icons?) and everything ports up nicely to the ultra high-resolution displays we're now sporting. These flat icons are going to look much nicer on a UHD 4K screen.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 3 months ago | (#47524677)

I really disliked W7. It was nice when the alternative was XP, but it still felt way over done. Too glossy, too much distraction, too much reliance on special effects (that often required video card help to achieve, which should be a warning sign). W7 is the opposite of keeping things simple and functional. W8 went the wrong way by being too simple and removing functionality. Mac OS feels in the middle, not distracting at all but very functional.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

gunner_von_diamond (3461783) | about 3 months ago | (#47523633)

Everything looks flat on my old CRT monitors!

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

Zero__Kelvin (151819) | about 3 months ago | (#47524597)

That's wierd. I would have thought it had a slight curve to it. Unless you call a Trinitron an "old" CRT monitor.

Re:Flat UI Design (1, Insightful)

gnupun (752725) | about 3 months ago | (#47523677)

I bet Jobs would not have approved of the modern (i.e. stripped of all soul, rich textures and curves) design of ios 7. Since it's so crappy (and bright) it's bound to get pushed into all OSes.

Re:Flat UI Design (4, Insightful)

tipo159 (1151047) | about 3 months ago | (#47523693)

Clearly you are not the only one. The flat UI seems to be the hot idea among UI designers and I am sure that they are all impressing themselves with their work. But, to me, as a user, it is just a gratuitous change that does not contribute to the UI's usability. And, to my kernel s/w engineer eyes, it, for the most part, doesn't look as good as what it is replacing.

I wonder how long I will be able to get by with OS X Mavericks.

Re:Flat UI Design (-1, Redundant)

jbolden (176878) | about 3 months ago | (#47523781)

It actually contributes quite a bit to functionality. An equally unskilled user can handle more complex screens and those screens can scale better.

Re:Flat UI Design (2)

angel'o'sphere (80593) | about 3 months ago | (#47523723)

Yes, I hate it.
I'm ebay-ing right now old Mac OS X Server OS versions.
Mac OS X after 10.6(.8) is a pain for me to use.
If 10.3 (or was it 10.4) was not so buggy I would even consider to buy an old PowerPC and run that.
iOS 7 is such a pain, I did not even repair my broken screen on my iPad. My next tablet is an e-ink Linux/Android, either a Kobo or a Nook.
Good bye Apple, I was 'trustfull' customer of you the last 30 years and bought hardware worth 50,000 Euro over that time ... but thats it.

Re:Flat UI Design (-1, Troll)

macs4all (973270) | about 3 months ago | (#47524181)

If 10.3 (or was it 10.4) was not so buggy I would even consider to buy an old PowerPC and run that. iOS 7 is such a pain, I did not even repair my broken screen on my iPad. My next tablet is an e-ink Linux/Android, either a Kobo or a Nook. Good bye Apple, I was 'trustfull' customer of you the last 30 years and bought hardware worth 50,000 Euro over that time ... but thats it.

Liar.

If you have actually spent 50k Euros on Mac hardware over the last 30 years, you would almost certainly still HAVE a PPC-based Mac that still worked just lying around. You wouldn't have to buy one.

And if you spent that amount on Mac H/W, you would have known about 10.5 (Leopard) (the last PPC-based OS X), which wasn't particularly buggy (certainly not nearly so much as Lion (10.7)). And 10.4 (Tiger) was actually a pretty nice OS; so, what "bugs" was it that you found so offensive?

Good luck with those Linux tablets. Enjoy you OS-that-never-gets-updated, laggy UI, and malware/spyware galore.

You'll be back.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

nine-times (778537) | about 3 months ago | (#47523741)

I haven't tried out Yosemite yet, but I generally like the flat look.

More specifically, I think things should generally be flat so that texture and dimension stand out. Having textures, depth, and animation in a UI can be a great way to provide visual cues, letting you immediately grasp the differentiation between elements and give you a sense of what the UI can do without explanation. However, the texture, depth, and animation can only provide those cues when it stands out against an otherwise static and flat UI. Having a UI where everything is textured and in motion creates a confusing mess. Remember web pages in the mid-90s?

I've actually thought that Windows, since XP, has overdone things in the UI. It has too may bright, garish colors and gradients, fake glass effects, etc. It doesn't make it attractive, and doesn't make the UI easier to understand. Metro aside, the Windows 8 flat design is easier on the eyes. I think the Yosemite screenshots so far look pretty good, though I want to withhold judgment until I see it in action.

Re:Flat UI Design (1, Insightful)

jbolden (176878) | about 3 months ago | (#47523761)

No lots of people dislike it. However it has some major advantages in terms of allowing screens to be more complex with a higher degree of understanding.

Deference — less competition between UI elements and application elements. What is expected is less noticeable
Clarity — text is legible at every size, icons are precise and lucid, elements are subtle and appropriate, and a sharpened focus on functionality motivates the design
Depth — visual layers and realistic motion are used to assist users’ understanding

That wasn't achievable with older hardware an OSes. Now that it is achievable it will allow for better applications.

Re:Flat UI Design (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523863)

Because they don't have anything better to do than flattening the entire GUI. Perhaps after a few years they're make everything like bubble again.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

wazzzup (172351) | about 3 months ago | (#47523923)

While everybody is entitled to their opinions, there is a real benefit to flat user interfaces. When done well, flat user interfaces remove the confusing decorations of skeumorphism (the practice of incorporating the look of an object that was made in another material into a design) so that a user can more easily identify and interact with the content or task at hand.

As with anything, there are extremes that can be taken too far and with flat user interfaces you have to be aware of removing too much distinguishing signifiers so a user can no longer tell what it is that the interface is expected to do. I like some of the flat UI treatments Apple has done in iOS and Yosemite. However, I'm not a fan of the excessive use of transparency in Yosemite. I think it's applied incorrectly and arbitrarily in too many locations. Transparencies, in my mind, are more closely associated with skeumorphic design than flat design and their use in the Yosemite beta is a step backward.

Re:Flat UI Design (1, Informative)

macs4all (973270) | about 3 months ago | (#47524217)

Transparencies, in my mind, are more closely associated with skeumorphic design than flat design and their use in the Yosemite beta is a step backward.

Good thing Apple has give you two places to reduce, or completely eliminate, Transparency in Yosemite.

Read the Ars article for details.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

angel'o'sphere (80593) | about 3 months ago | (#47524729)

Unfortunately the exact opposite is true: While everybody is entitled to their opinions, there is a real benefit to flat user interfaces. When done well, flat user interfaces remove the confusing decorations of skeumorphism (the practice of incorporating a look of an object that was made in another material into a design) so that a user can more easily identify and interact with the content or task at hand
A 'Notebook' that does not look anymore like a notebook is hard to find on the UI. Amd if you open it up and it loos like another flow of desktop dialogs it makes me womit.
A calendar that does not look like a calendar but like a piece of paper coloured by a child, a bit like a copy of what our days MS Outlook looks like, is uncomprehendable, unuseable.
An App like Mail or Safari on iOS 7 where half of the icons say nothing, where it is a 5 minutes contemplation how to access the 'recent history' (no idea how it is called in english, there is no straight forward translation from germans 'Verlauf') ... sorry that is not progress, that is a defration!
Since iOS 6, the iOS platform is on the decline. There is no inovation, they only dropped their limits down to plain android boringness. Same for Mac OS X, once the halmark of usebility and snapping UI design is now driving below Windows levels.
Perhap, it is only a decade and then the APIs will also be on the level of windows ... what a shame.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

jellomizer (103300) | about 3 months ago | (#47524039)

I don't hate the Flat UI style. But for Microsoft and Apple to adopt it is not really their thing.

Google has always had the flat style, it was their thing.
With Microsoft and Apple doing it it makes them look like they are a cheap rip off.

Apple did start to go a little too far in the 3d thing. I think when they made the Dock background 3d perspective.

Microsoft in Windows 7 had a good balance.

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

MacTO (1161105) | about 3 months ago | (#47524055)

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Re:Flat UI Design (0)

Barlo_Mung_42 (411228) | about 3 months ago | (#47524505)

You're not. Lots of people hate it. There are also lots of us that like it though. Just the way it goes.

Re:Flat UI Design (0)

antdude (79039) | about 3 months ago | (#47524599)

I don't like them too. I miss the 3Dish designs. :(

Re:Flat UI Design (1)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 3 months ago | (#47524633)

I like it myself. I really disliked the overly glossy and special effect heavy style of Windows 7 for instance. Mac isn't "flat" per se, it's just minimalist. No borders for example because they serve no purpose except to waste screen space.

I have no idea about other apple products as I don't use them, but on my android phone I most definitely don't want all that wasted space from UI garnishes (and there's enough wasted space as it is, I want information not pretty looks).

Now Windows 8 went too far on the metro side, you can't tell what's a clickable item or not (I refuse to say "touchable"). But on the desk top I actually prefer that style (not counting silly charms bars and other metro stuff that intrudes).

However what is really needed perhaps is an option. All othe operating systems try to quash all customization (even many free systems). Freedom of choice is good.

Yosemite? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523523)

My parents stayed there once. My dad complained it was full of bugs.

Re:Yosemite? (1)

oodaloop (1229816) | about 3 months ago | (#47523619)

Cool story, bro.

Yosemite? (2)

slashdice (3722985) | about 3 months ago | (#47523683)

Are you sure he wasn't talking about your mom?

New UI? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523527)

From what I see in some screenshot, UI just looks too plain. I want to see some depth not a peace of paper.

Re:New UI? (1)

oldmac31310 (1845668) | about 3 months ago | (#47523755)

From watt I sea in sum screenshot, you eye lux two plane. Eye want to sea sum depth knot a piece of pay per. FTFY

Looks like those who signed up when they first (1)

Registered Coward v2 (447531) | about 3 months ago | (#47523545)

announced the beta are already signed up even if they didn't get an email. I logged on under the email I requested a code for back right after the developers conference and got the code.

Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (1)

gunner_von_diamond (3461783) | about 3 months ago | (#47523627)

But give free updates for iOS?

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (5, Informative)

Timothy Hartman (2905293) | about 3 months ago | (#47523647)

The don't charge for Mac OS X actually anymore. Didn't last revision cycle and the previous two versions were $29 and $19 respectively.

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (3, Interesting)

aristotle-dude (626586) | about 3 months ago | (#47523649)

But give free updates for iOS?

Apple does not charge for OS X anymore. The last update was free and so is this one.

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523797)

Which makes sense - when you sell computers that cost literally double what an identically specced PC would, you really shouldn't be nickel and dime-ing your customers over minor OS upgrades.

Or, judging from the screenshots, a substantial downgrade. Hope Apple users enjoy their new Apple version of Metro.

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47524015)

Being identically specced is actually irrelevant if one system takes 3x as many instructions to do the same thing as the other. As far as screen shots go, maybe You should try it before You criticize it?

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (1)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 3 months ago | (#47525047)

"identically specced" Only for very liberal interpretations for "identically specced". The problem is that when you actually try to build one identically-specced, in some cases, you'd find you spend more money on a PC than a Mac. There are specs you may not care about: small form factor, workstation processors, etc which may drive the price down. However ignoring them means you don't have an identically specced machine.

Take for example the cost of the video chips in the Mac Pro. It is actually cheaper to buy a Mac Pro upgrades than discrete cards. The D300 cards are roughly equivalent to the FirePro W7000 (~$750) while the D500 is almost equivalent to the W8000(~$1250). The D700 is roughly equivalent to a W9000 (~$3200). The prices are newegg [newegg.com] prices. To upgrade from D300 to D500 is $400 on Apple. If you had two W7000 discrete cards, the upgrade price to dual W8000 would be $800. To upgrade to D700s would be $1000. To upgrade from dual W7000 to dual W9000 is $5500.

Now you make say you don't need workstation level cards, but that's the problem with your argument. Using a consumer level card would be cheaper; however, a Mac Pro is not designed for consumers. It's designed for professionals.

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (-1)

Stratus311 (894962) | about 3 months ago | (#47523653)

Because "profit".

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523665)

They don't.

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523681)

Wow. Behind the times much?

Updates to Mac OSX are free.

If you're going to rag on Apple, please at least make a smudge of effort to be accurate.

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (1)

gunner_von_diamond (3461783) | about 3 months ago | (#47523895)

Wow. Behind the times much?

No, I'm just a linux programmer.

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47524153)

No, I'm just a linux programmer.

That's actually worse than an Apple Fanboi. Jeeze... your beard must be disgusting.

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (0)

Darinbob (1142669) | about 3 months ago | (#47524737)

Free, but functionality drops with each release. They're pushing iOS crap on the mac, updating built-in apps that few people want to use, useless cloud features. The ONLY things I want for an upcoming release are bug fixes.

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (1)

sootman (158191) | about 3 months ago | (#47524537)

OMG! They must have read your comment, realized the error of their ways, and done away with the fee!

"OS X Mavericks. Now available for free from the Mac App Store."
http://www.apple.com/osx/ [apple.com]
https://itunes.apple.com/us/ap... [apple.com]

Quick -- ask for a pony next!

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (0)

gunner_von_diamond (3461783) | about 3 months ago | (#47524589)

free from the Mac App Store."

What's an 'App store'?

Re:Why does Apple charge for Mac OSX? (4, Informative)

UnknowingFool (672806) | about 3 months ago | (#47524883)

Apple hasn't charged for OS X since Mavericks. Then they charged before Mavericks:
  • 10.0 "Cheetah": $0
    I don't think there was a price as it was the first OS X to be installed on new machines.
  • 10.1 "Puma": $129
  • 10.2 "Jaguar": $129
  • 10.3 "Panther": $129
  • 10.4 "Tiger": $129
  • 10.5 "Leopard": $129
  • 10.6 "Snow Leopard": $29
  • 10.7 "Lion": $29
  • 10.8 "Mountain Lion": $19
  • 10.9 "Mavericks": $0
  • 10.10 "Yosemite": $0

Mac OS X Yosemite (4, Funny)

Snufu (1049644) | about 3 months ago | (#47523679)

National parks are selling commercial naming rights?

Re:Mac OS X Yosemite (0)

angel'o'sphere (80593) | about 3 months ago | (#47523759)

Why should a national park, named after something else, have a right to the name after it is named? (Was that a complicated sentence?)

Re:Mac OS X Yosemite (0)

tquasar (1405457) | about 3 months ago | (#47523785)

I get Yosemite Sam and the National Park but please stop, Apple. Please. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org] , http://www.nps.gov/yose/index.... [nps.gov] And for those who want to know, it's Yo-sem-it-eee, derived from the American Indian Miwok name the tribe called the place. They lived there.

Re:Mac OS X Yosemite (0)

danceswithtrees (968154) | about 3 months ago | (#47524083)

Regarding pronunciation, I used to cringe/laugh every time Jobs said 'Jaguar.' It appears that there were three pronunciations depending on what you were referring to:

1. Mac OS: Jag-Wire
2. Large cat: Jaguar
3. British car: Jag u ah

Re:Mac OS X Yosemite (0)

Registered Coward v2 (447531) | about 3 months ago | (#47524335)

Regarding pronunciation, I used to cringe/laugh every time Jobs said 'Jaguar.' It appears that there were three pronunciations depending on what you were referring to:

1. Mac OS: Jag-Wire

2. Large cat: Jaguar

3. British car: It's not running again

There. Fixed that.

As a side note, I wonder if Lucas' patent on the electrical short has expired yet.

Re:Mac OS X Yosemite (0)

iluvcapra (782887) | about 3 months ago | (#47524565)

3. British car: It's not running again

Why didn't the British invent Mac OS? Because they couldn't figure out how to get it to leak oil.

Re:Mac OS X Yosemite (1, Informative)

Merk42 (1906718) | about 3 months ago | (#47523809)

No; Warner Bros. characters
The meanest, toughest, rip-roarin-est, Jony Ive-est OS whatever packed a XNU kernel!

Re:Mac OS X Yosemite (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47523969)

Don't think you understand what naming rights are. They are when a company pays to have their name put on something, as with AT&T Park in San Francisco or Safeco Field in Seattle. Names of places are public domain by definition and nobody has to pay to use them.

Re:Mac OS X Yosemite (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47524075)

Named after the Yosemite Valley . . . . or Yosemite Sam.

Maybe WB has a case. Seriously, who mods this shit up?

Re:Mac OS X Yosemite (1)

SeaFox (739806) | about 3 months ago | (#47524205)

National parks are selling commercial naming rights?

National parks aren't corporations, and national parks and operating systems on computers aren't the least bit related so you're not going to have a trademark collision.

And this is assuming I'm entertaining the notion the national park has any exclusive ownership to the name to start with.

Re:Mac OS X Yosemite (1)

Rakarra (112805) | about 3 months ago | (#47524581)

National parks aren't corporations, and national parks and operating systems on computers aren't the least bit related so you're not going to have a trademark collision.

National parks aren't corporations, though a corporation can and do run the services in a national park.

In the case of Yosemite, its services are supplied by the Delaware North corporation, who also oversee Niagara Falls and the Grand Canyon.

Re:Mac OS X Yosemite (1)

hondo77 (324058) | about 3 months ago | (#47524679)

National parks aren't corporations...

National parks are people, my friend...

FYI - Yosemite Dev Seed vs. Public Beta Notes (2)

djupedal (584558) | about 3 months ago | (#47523789)

Important Info: OS X Yosemite Beta Seed

Today we have released a public beta build of Yosemite for people who are part of the OS X Yosemite Beta Program. This is an open-to-the- public seed of similar pre-release software that you test for us. The build they received is 14A299l which is identical and not any newer than your current build 14A298i. There is no benefit in moving to the public seed build. Participants in the public seed get access to the pre-release software and a lighter version of Feedback Assistant. We suggest that you DO NOT participate in the OS X Yosemite Beta Program. If you participate in both programs, you may experience the following issues:

* You will have multiple projects listed in your projects list in Feedback Assistant and the AppleSeed portal.

* Installing the public seed build will prevent you from seeing additional software update OS X builds that are only available to the AppleSeed Program.

* If you write bugs using the OS X Yosemite bug form while using the public seed build, they may not get screened.

Please remember your current participation in the Apple Software Customer Seeding Program contains many added benefits:

* You receive additional information in the form of release notes, emails, and bug correspondence

* You have access to a discussion board

* You have access to more detailed bug forms

* Your bug reports are screened by engineering

* You will have access to builds not available in OS X Yosemite Beta Program

We appreciate all that you do for the AppleSeed Program. Your steadfast participation truly makes Apple software a high quality product. If you have additional comments or questions, please post on the discussion board.

Yosemite... (1)

oldmac31310 (1845668) | about 3 months ago | (#47523801)

followed by Marmite, then Vegemite. Then Bovril, Oxo, Herbox, Knorr and Maggi.

I can fix any current Mac OS. (1)

TechyImmigrant (175943) | about 3 months ago | (#47523823)

I can fix any current Mac OS. Just go into the apps folder (flower-shift-a is the shortcut), then into utilities, then run shell application. Enlarge the window to full screen. Bingo, you're in a bash shell where you can talk to a proper unixy command line interface.

Re:I can fix any current Mac OS. (-1, Troll)

macs4all (973270) | about 3 months ago | (#47524061)

I can fix any current Mac OS. Just go into the apps folder (flower-shift-a is the shortcut), then into utilities, then run shell application. Enlarge the window to full screen. Bingo, you're in a bash shell where you can talk to a proper unixy command line interface.

First off, it's "COMMAND", not "FLOWER", FFS. Name hasn't changed since Mac OS 1.0 in 1984.

Second, it's the "Terminal" app, not the "Shell Application".

Third, let's see you drive Photoshop from that "Proper Unixy[sic] command line interface".

What a 'tard.

Re:I can fix any current Mac OS. (1)

praxis (19962) | about 3 months ago | (#47524313)

I can fix any current Mac OS. Just go into the apps folder (flower-shift-a is the shortcut), then into utilities, then run shell application. Enlarge the window to full screen. Bingo, you're in a bash shell where you can talk to a proper unixy command line interface.

Or command-space then type "terminal" and hit enter for faster bash access.

You did it wrong. (1)

MachineShedFred (621896) | about 3 months ago | (#47524865)

If you just want a UNIX shell, why are you running all that graphical crap at all? Real men want a text mode UNIX. Here, let me help you...

From the login window, in the user name field, type:

>console

and hit enter.

Now, loginwindow.app and the window server go away, and you're in a real UNIX shell. And get off my lawn.

Customizing chat bubble colors in Messages.app (1)

Kethinov (636034) | about 3 months ago | (#47523851)

Apple seems to have removed the ability to customize the chat bubble colors in Messages.app in Yosemite. If you liked that feature (as I did) and want it back, I've got your back! https://github.com/kethinov/Bu... [github.com]

Ars Review is Cosmetic (1)

Suffering Bastard (194752) | about 3 months ago | (#47523931)

The linked Ars Technica review pretty much only looks at surface level details, like icons, window buttons, menus, etc. Doesn't say anything about functionality, speed, or lower level concerns.

And this line is misleading:

It's a very Microsoft-esque way to roll out an OS: you give enthusiasts a chance to work with an early-but-reasonably-stable build in exchange for valuable bug-squashing feedback.

Microsoft got the idea from Apple, who started their public beta program with the first version of OS X back in 2001.

Re:Ars Review is Cosmetic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47524249)

Microsoft got the idea from Apple, who started their public beta program with the first version of OS X back in 2001.

Bull shit. Apple has only had one public beta before the Yosemite which was the 2001 OSX. There has been no other public beta. So Apple didn't "start" anything. They did it once and you make it sound like some fucking trend. Piss off.

Re:Ars Review is Cosmetic (1)

Suffering Bastard (194752) | about 3 months ago | (#47524529)

The public beta Apple started was started in 2001. That's all I said. No trend was meant to be implied.

I may have been wrong about MS getting the idea from Apple, though. I'll piss off on that point.

Re:Ars Review is Cosmetic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47524775)

lol. y u mad bro?

Re:Ars Review is Cosmetic (1)

Lazere (2809091) | about 3 months ago | (#47524405)

You do know Microsoft was doing public betas at least as early as Windows 98, right?

iTunes (2)

CanadianMacFan (1900244) | about 3 months ago | (#47524097)

Feels like I've already been doing beta testing since the last major release of iTunes has been released. It's been very buggy, especially where podcasts are concerned. They keep throwing more features in which seem to break basic functionality and slow the application down. It now takes over two seconds to delete a podcast episode since version 11.3 came out. And that's for every episode. If you want to delete three episodes it takes over six seconds. How do you write something that bloody slow? I fear updating to the new version in Yosemite for how bad it's going to be.

Not Apple's first Yosemite-named Mac product (5, Informative)

wernst (536414) | about 3 months ago | (#47524289)

Those of us of a certain age will probably find the codename of the new OS X oddly familiar.

The so-called "Blue & White" PowerMac G3 was also code-named "Yosemite" (http://apple-history.com/g3blue). Mine still works fine, 15 years later - it'll be old enough to drive and vote soon.

Too bad my Yosemite Mac won't be able to run Yosemite OS X...

Re:Not Apple's first Yosemite-named Mac product (1)

MachineShedFred (621896) | about 3 months ago | (#47524901)

Yeah, but nobody is going to confuse a modern software branding with that ass-ugly hardware tower.

Though, it was the first NewWorld ROM Mac, so that's worth something. And that case got infinitely better when they went with grey / graphite for the G4. It's still one of the best cases to work inside that's ever been made, since the logic board was mounted to the hinged door.

Did they run out of big cats to name things after? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47524371)

Like Lynx and Caracals.

Yo-se-mite? Like Vegemite? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 3 months ago | (#47524839)

Why isn't Yosemite pronounced like "Vegemite"?

It should be spelled "Yosemitty"

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