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Free Copy of the Sims 2 Contains SecuROM

Unknown Lamer posted about 4 months ago | from the get-your-free-rootkits dept.

DRM 234

dotarray (1747900) writes By now, everybody should know that if something looks too good to be true, it probably is. Let's apply that to EA, shall we? The publisher is giving away copies of The Sims 2: Ultimate Collection, for free... and not mentioning that it includes the controversial SecuROM anti-piracy software. Nobody likes SecuROM.

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SecuROM racket (5, Funny)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 4 months ago | (#47555743)

SecuROM racket
Despite how you stack it
Like a beard on a girl
They just want to hack it
Burma Shave

Re:SecuROM racket (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555757)

Kanye, is that you?

Re:SecuROM racket (1)

smitty_one_each (243267) | about 4 months ago | (#47555781)

Fart too white and nerdy [youtube.com] .

Re:SecuROM racket (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555979)

Rasist against my gas?

Re:SecuROM racket (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556183)

SecuROM racket
Despite how you stack it
Like a beard on a girl
They just want to whack it
Burma Shave


FTFY

Could be worse (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555759)

At least it's not StarForce.

Re:Could be worse (4, Funny)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 4 months ago | (#47555793)

This EA: you only get StarForce if you pre-order at select retail partners or buy the launch-day DLC...

Re:Could be worse (3, Insightful)

flyneye (84093) | about 4 months ago | (#47556015)

They could add DRM to the ISO at any time during production. So, I wouldn't count StarForce out, just yet.

Re:Could be worse (2, Insightful)

arbiter1 (1204146) | about 4 months ago | (#47555915)

Yea also you got it for free if you had the promo code so can't really bitch about the DRM in it.

Re:Could be worse (5, Insightful)

JosKarith (757063) | about 4 months ago | (#47555965)

"Here's a free ice lolly. What's that, you found that I froze a turd inside it? Well you got it for free so you have no right to complain..."
Nice logic, man.

Re:Could be worse (4, Insightful)

kyldere (723002) | about 4 months ago | (#47556177)

You forgot to mention that the guy handing out the ice lollies has been convicted several times in the past for putting turds in them...

Re:Could be worse (2)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 4 months ago | (#47556193)

Dude, you missed a trick with that one.

"Here's a free ice lolly. So what if it's made of frosty piss, it's free isn't it!?!"

Would have been even better if it was the frosty piss, I mean frist post, I mean first post.

Re:Could be worse (5, Informative)

TheP4st (1164315) | about 4 months ago | (#47556215)

you got it for free if you had the promo code so can't really bitch about the DRM in it.

If I have not been (clearly) informed of it's presence and implications by the publisher I certainly can and so should any person that consider themselves the owner of their machine when it is DRM that is known to:
- Generate false positives on authentic discs.
- Create files and reg keys that you cannot access/remove as admin.
- Snoop on your software usage 24/7.
- Conflict with debugging software and in some instances even require debuggers to be un-installed in order for you to play the game.
- Remain installed after you have un-installed the game.

Re:Could be worse (1)

flyneye (84093) | about 4 months ago | (#47556011)

I'll give a damn about the Sims when it becomes a FPS w/ nade launcher.
Urban Terror; still free, no DRM.

Anti-piracy (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555761)

So, tell me, what do you mean with anti-piracy? Does it help against evil people in boats comandeering unarmed trade ships? So then must be something good.

Or have you meant Digital Restrictions Management?

Re: Anti-piracy (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556077)

I don't need a boat analogy. I need a car analogy.

Re: Anti-piracy (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556083)

I don't need a boat analogy. I need a car analogy.

Yeah, but you wouldn't download a car analogy, would you?

Re: Anti-piracy (2)

Therad (2493316) | about 4 months ago | (#47556169)

I often download car analogies from /.

Fuck those fucking fuckers (0, Redundant)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555765)

The title says it all, except for saying the title says it all.

Re:Fuck those fucking fuckers (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555821)

Fuck you fucking fucker fucker.

Does anyone have a link (5, Insightful)

Anarchduke (1551707) | about 4 months ago | (#47555773)

to a pirated version of this free software? I only ask becuase the pirated version wont have securom and will work better.

Re:Does anyone have a link (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555999)

Re:Does anyone have a link (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556003)

http://ThePirateBay.se

free as in price, not as in freedom (0, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555777)

Bad news: a free product contains DRM.
Good news: you still have the freedom not to use it.

Which Anti-Virus Suites detect that Trojan Horse? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555779)

It is a Trojan Horse, isn't it? Can they remove it or does it fight its removal like common malware does?

So what? (3, Insightful)

Racemaniac (1099281) | about 4 months ago | (#47555783)

Is there any convention about mentioning anywhere which protection softwares your software is using??
i get it that some people don't like securom, but is it any surprise that even free versions contain it because the probably couldn't be bothered to remove it before making it free?

Re:So what? (0, Troll)

jawtheshark (198669) | about 4 months ago | (#47555899)

Yes, I don't get this. They give a game away for free and instead of saying "Fun! Thank you EA" many people are complaining about the DRM. Yes, there is DRM, but you're running Windows to play it, so that really is the least of your problems. I grabbed it. I don't even have Windows in active use, but should I ever have tons of free spare time and want to play a game, I can now install it on a Games-Dedicated-Windows partition.

I say "Thank you EA".

Re:So what? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555985)

Slaves liked that daily meal too. people like you who will accept anything as long as it comes with something "free" are not right in the head.

Re:So what? (1)

nhat11 (1608159) | about 4 months ago | (#47556041)

Sooo you're comparing slavery to software? I think it's someone that posted before me that's not right in the head.

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556043)

Bad comparison. If you don't get food, you die. If you don't get Sims 2, you have a lot more time live.

And just to be clear: I think copyright in its current form is as fucked up as the next slashdotter does. One of just many problems is that DRM is practically guaranteed to fuck legitimate users over - at least in the long run when just a minority want to use some software a decade after its release and getting it running on a modern system is a challenge even without DRM. Some requirement that if a company of size X (to make life easier for lone shareware coders, if they still exist), a DRM-free copy and/or the source must be submitted to an independent body upon initial release and if some criteria are later fulfilled, said body releases the uncrippled version to legitimate users. Do note that I'm not saying public domain but just owners of legitimate copies. Addressing when something should become public domain, is yet another subject and I'm already digressing enough.

Re:So what? (1)

flyneye (84093) | about 4 months ago | (#47556021)

Well, there's always any other cracked game installed that the "anti-piracy" software could affect. This IS malware , first, DRM, second. Free isn't free, sweet pea.

Re:So what? (-1)

jawtheshark (198669) | about 4 months ago | (#47556065)

Look to play it, you must run Windows, to run Windows means that you almost certainly have malware already. To me that makes it a non issue. Want to game? Have a Windows partition for that specifically and consider it "nukable-from-orbit". Do important stuff on sane platforms. That's how I see it, and as such, SecuROM is no big deal, even with the rather overblown claims of it being malware. It might be, and if it is, it's still no big deal as you isolate it from important things. At least slashdotters should, and normal people have malware regardless.

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556109)

ook to play it, you must run Windows, to run Windows means that you almost certainly have malware already.

It runs fine on Wine. No Windows needed. To nuke from orbit just run rm -rf .wine or whateverSims2Winedir.

Re:So what? (1)

flyneye (84093) | about 4 months ago | (#47556195)

That being the case, what prevents the DRM from raiding the cracked games in your Wine partition?

Re:So what? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556187)

It's free as in "one per customer", not free as in "all I can steal".

Re:So what? (3, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | about 4 months ago | (#47556105)

You know, after the Sony rootkit issue, I do kind of expect vendors to be up front about this.

Because, "hey, here's our software, oh, it might wreck your computer" is kind of a big deal.

These companies feel entitled to install all sorts of crap on your machine. But, this being EA, it's already crap.

They really should be required to tell you the extra crap they're installing, because it has the potential to really fsck up your computer.

Anybody know? (4, Interesting)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 4 months ago | (#47555785)

Given that this is EA we are talking about, I can definitely believe that they'd somehow manage to be paranoid about 'piracy' of a game they are giving away. However, since it's also an older game(pre "Origin" store/client/pox-on-humanity and originally distributed largely on retail disks) and being given away it would be unsurprising if as little effort as possible was put into modifications for the new distribution.

Does anybody know how deeply baked-in SecuROM has to be? Would the developer/publisher have a 'clean' version that is then put through some sort of SecuROM conversion step, or would you have to go further back, and deeper, into the development process to cleanly rip it out?

I'm baffled at why including it would be worth much (especially if the license agreement involves any sort of volume-based payment, which would likely wipe out any minor benefits in audience tracking); but if it is sufficiently difficult to rip out then it would be understandable why EA wouldn't bother doing so(aside from just being evil).

Re:Anybody know? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555823)

One of the big complaints about SecureROM is that it roots your system.

If you give away free software containing it, you're increasing the installed base of SecureROM. This makes it less likely that those machines will be able to successfully run other pirated software protected with the system.

Re:Anybody know? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555841)

One of the big complaints about SecureROM is that it roots your system.

"It roots your system." Wow, so specific. Video drivers "root your system" too and yet you love your video drivers, don't you, l33t b0i?

Re:Anybody know? (5, Interesting)

RogueyWon (735973) | about 4 months ago | (#47555867)

So... genuine question...

What does SecuROM actually do to your system and what are the implications?

The wikipedia article, beyond a floating comment that SecuROM isn't uninstalled when the game is uninstalled, is basically silent on this. In fact, let's break it down into a series of further questions?

- Does SecuROM cause security vulnerabilities on PCs on which it is installed?

- Does SecuROM prevent applications - other than pirated copies of the game it is supposed to "protect" - from functioning on PCs on which it is installed?

- Does SecuROM create any kind of "always on" background process that consumes resources and potentially reduces performance on PCs on which it is installed?

If the answer to any of the above is "yes" then obviously there is a fairly major problem here. If the answer to all of the above is "no", then I'm not quite sure what people are getting upset about given that we are talking about a free game (SecuROM being bundled with paid-for games is another issue entirely).

And to emphasise, I genuinely don't know the answers to the above and can't work them out from the links in TFA.

Re:Anybody know? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555891)

- Does SecuROM cause security vulnerabilities on PCs on which it is installed?

- Does SecuROM prevent applications - other than pirated copies of the game it is supposed to "protect" - from functioning on PCs on which it is installed?

- Does SecuROM create any kind of "always on" background process that consumes resources and potentially reduces performance on PCs on which it is installed?

No, no, and no.
SecuROM Frequently Asked Questions [securom.com]

Re:Anybody know? (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556005)

Ah! Right. Same kind of answers as Verizon [verizonwireless.com] about throttling their mobile network users.

Is this the same as throttling?
No, this is not throttling.

How is this different than throttling?
The difference between our Network Optimization practices and throttling is network intelligence.

Sure. https://www.techdirt.com/artic... [techdirt.com]

Re:Anybody know? (5, Insightful)

bickerdyke (670000) | about 4 months ago | (#47555955)

- Does SecuROM cause security vulnerabilities on PCs on which it is installed?

Adding a method to hide processes running on your system may be considered a security vulnerability. Such systems are usually used only by malware and legitimate software should NOT use any technology to counter the work of anti-virus software. Either your antivirus is weakend (which should be considered a security vulnerability) or "real" malware might also hide under the "invisibility cloak" set up by SecuROM to hide itself.

SecuROm may not be a security threat in itself, but it uses typical malware patterns and generally weakens your system security.

- Does SecuROM prevent applications - other than pirated copies of the game it is supposed to "protect" - from functioning on PCs on which it is installed?

OK, I'm recounting a user report on forum from years ago from the back of my memory here, so take this paragraph with a grain of salt: (may have been a similar copy protection system, if not exactly SecuROM)

I remember a user reporting a broken DVD writer. He bought a new one and replaced the "malfunctioning" drive only to find out that the new drive was also "broken". Turned out it was a DRM system that blocked the DVD writer and that user threw away a perfectly functioning DVD writer. Actual monetary damage here.

- Does SecuROM create any kind of "always on" background process that consumes resources and potentially reduces performance on PCs on which it is installed?

If it is not uninstalled with the software, it permanently eats up ressources that can't be reclaimed by the legitimate owner by uninstalling, as it is hiding itself from the computers software/process management system. (see "rootKit" in #1) As it is hidden, there is no indication that any problem showing up years after the deinstallation of a computer game (#2) might still be connected to a residual software component (read: garbage) from a casual game from a few years ago.

If the answer to any of the above is "yes" then obviously there is a fairly major problem here. If the answer to all of the above is "no", then I'm not quite sure what people are getting upset about given that we are talking about a free game (SecuROM being bundled with paid-for games is another issue entirely).

No. ESPESCIALLY for free games. Why add copy protection to free stuff anyway? It's free to begin with! No one needs or wants to "pirate" it. Unless of course you need a "pirated" copy of the game to keep the negative SecuROM effects from your system.

Re:Anybody know? (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556007)

- Does SecuROM cause security vulnerabilities on PCs on which it is installed?

Adding a method to hide processes running on your system may be considered a security vulnerability.

And yet, ironically, if you do not have local admin rights on a Windows machine, what running processes are you allowed to see?

I guess when Windows bakes in this same very feature and allows the system to block or hide administrative-level processes by default, it's somehow different.

Re:Anybody know? (1)

Imrik (148191) | about 4 months ago | (#47556221)

I don't know about all versions of windows, but in at least some of them you can see all the processes, you just can't directly affect ones from other users.

Re:Anybody know? (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556079)

Firsthand experience here: I ended up with SecuROM I think from one of the Prince of Persia games, and from that point forward no DVD drive would work with that computer until I nuked the HD flat and completely reinstalled windows. I didn't throw my DVD drive away, but I probably did spend 20 ro 30 hours trying to diagnose it and reinstalling windows.

Re:Anybody know? (3, Informative)

Talderas (1212466) | about 4 months ago | (#47556129)

No. ESPESCIALLY for free games. Why add copy protection to free stuff anyway? It's free to begin with! No one needs or wants to "pirate" it. Unless of course you need a "pirated" copy of the game to keep the negative SecuROM effects from your system.

Because everyone and their mother didn't pay attention to what actually happened. EA provides The Sims 2 through Origin at a cost. They are currently giving copies of the game away, through Origin, if you use a redemption code which is only valid through July 31st. After that date, you will have to go back to paying for the game if you want to acquire it. You could also acquire the game right now without the redemption code, you'll just have to pay for it. So the game isn't permanently free, it's temporarily free, and it's using the exact same distribution method and version that the not-free version of The Sims 2 uses.

Re:Anybody know? (1)

bickerdyke (670000) | about 4 months ago | (#47556159)

thx

Re:Anybody know? (2)

JohhnyTHM (799469) | about 4 months ago | (#47556181)

OK, I'm recounting a user report on forum from years ago from the back of my memory here, so take this paragraph with a grain of salt: (may have been a similar copy protection system, if not exactly SecuROM) I remember a user reporting a broken DVD writer. He bought a new one and replaced the "malfunctioning" drive only to find out that the new drive was also "broken". Turned out it was a DRM system that blocked the DVD writer and that user threw away a perfectly functioning DVD writer. Actual monetary damage here.

This may have been me on /. a few years ago, but it was with StarForce rather then SecuRom.
PC started running like crap after installing X3, so I decided to backup my music, photos and game files onto DVD. Every one failed. After much searching I found a website with an answer - a StarForce remover. Used that and my DVD started working again. Also my PC started running normally again. I have never bought a game with this kind of intrusive DRM since. The only way to get the message across is stop giving these people money, or better still, sue the bastards. Stopping people from backing up their photos because you are paranoid about piracy is not acceptable.

Re:Anybody know? (1)

mwvdlee (775178) | about 4 months ago | (#47556025)

- Does SecuROM cause security vulnerabilities on PCs on which it is installed?

Yes. Absolutely. Any additional software, especially ones that embed themselves so deep into the OS, provides additional exploitable bugs.
Let he who codes without bugs cast the first stone.

Re:Anybody know? (4, Interesting)

LoRdTAW (99712) | about 4 months ago | (#47556207)

I remember when Crysis came out it was secured with SuckROM. The idea was you inserted the DVD and SuckROM would verify the DVD was in the drive and the game would start, most of the time.

During the process of running crysis.exe securom would start and your mouse cursor would have this colorful CD icon attached to it. If securom failed to work properly (crash) which was every 1 in 3 or 4 times, the mouse cursor would stay a disco ball looking CD and your CD/DVD drive was rendered inoperable. A reboot was the only solution to solving it.

After a week of that I downloaded a cracked exe for a game I legally bought with my hard earned cash. And you wonder why the consumer hates DRM. That is part of the reason intrusive, rootkit like DRM needs to die in a fire.

Re:Anybody know? (1)

bickerdyke (670000) | about 4 months ago | (#47555919)

"Root your system" not as in "rooting your cellphone to get privileged access to do it's job" as your cellphone backup app or filemanager does.

"Root your system" as in applying stealth technologies used to hide malware from your antivirus software, as a so called "RootKit" (special class of malware using said stealth technologies) is doing.

And no, my video driver isn't doing that.

Re:Anybody know? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555869)

Given how easily the pirates take it out, I suspect it should be pretty straight forward for someone at EA to do the same.

Who cares? (4, Insightful)

ildon (413912) | about 4 months ago | (#47555787)

It's free. If you don't like SecuROM, don't install the game. If someone hates SecuROM so much, they probably hate Origin even more, so this seems kind of moot.

Re:Who cares? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555815)

Over-entitled shit-for-brains kids care. They want their free shit without DRM! They don't even know what DRM does, they wouldn't know how to reverse-engineer anything if they tried, but their bros on teh internets said DRM is bad, bro, so DRM is baaaaaad bro.

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555827)

Do you have the same cavalier attitude towards other trojan horses? Is it OK to give shiny things away and hide the fact that you're including a helping of disease?

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555957)

Here's a free blanket to keep you warm during the winter, friendly neighbour.
DON'T COMPLAIN TO ME ABOUT THE POX! I GAVE YOU A FREE BLANKET!

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555855)

It has nothing to do with hate.
SecuROM is a (very) dangerous piece of software.

Re:Who cares? (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555857)

Citation needed, otherwise you're a hateful hatemongering hater.

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555981)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SecuROM#cite_note-Tweakguides_PC_Game_Piracy_Examined_Page_9-8
Knock yourself out.
Securom is well known for breaking certain CD-ROMs, and set-ups with certain software installed.
Also removing securom is not as simple as simply uninstalling the game.

Re:Who cares? (5, Interesting)

Sycraft-fu (314770) | about 4 months ago | (#47555893)

No kidding. And sims 2 has ALWAYS had SecuROM in it. They just didn't feel like taking the time to patch it out. While I'm a firm believer that DRM is a waste of time and money on the game company's part, there's no massive conspiracy here. They used SecuROM when they released Sims 2 (it was released in 2004, they used SecuROM a lot with games then) and they haven't bothered to redo it because, well, it is old and they just don't wanna spend the time.

Fair enough, particularly for free.

Plus the nerd rage over it is really overblown. Turns out when there's a problem with something, sometimes companies listen and fix things. So last SecuROM game I played was Battlefield Bad Company 2. It was not problematic at all in my experience. You had to activate it one time online and it then ran without checks or ever going online again. You got a certain number of activations, 5 or 10 I think, but not only could you deactivate it, with a tool or automatically during uninstall, but they would replenish automatically over time. So unless you were doing a ton of reinstalls and not deactivating it was really unlikely you'd have an issue.

Silly to include DRM in my opinion, particularly for a game mostly played online, but not at all onerous on the user.

People seriously need to chill about this shit. Support DRM free games when there's a version available (GOG is a good site, please not Steam is not DRM free, Steamworks is DRM) but don't rage and whine if there's DRM and the DRM isn't a problem. Yes it is silly and a waste of money, but don't act like it is some massive issue if it is not.

If a game has some "always on" DRM bullshit that shuts it off if the connection goes down? Ya that's a reason to get mad and not buy it. If it has a DRM that wants to activate once and then fucks off? Oh get over it, you probably have to get online ones to patch the thing anyhow. Just jump through the hoop and go on about your business.

Re:Who cares? (4, Insightful)

KingOfBLASH (620432) | about 4 months ago | (#47555971)

YES!

There is no right to a game designed the way you would want to design it. Your right is to vote with your wallets. If the second companies instituted DRM everyone stopped buying their products, then companies would not see DRM as a valid business model.

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556119)

The real problem is that most consumers are too stupid to realize that they are installing this crap, and as a result end up thinking they need a new PC sooner than they really do when performance starts to decline or troubles start to appear. The ones who realize how big of a problem this can cause are outraged and speak out, maybe hoping the other users can learn of these troubles and to avoid such problems.

Not to mention the possibilities of a virus or malware could piggyback off of this software and actually do more than slow down their computer, it could be stealing their banking information or any other valuable information that is used on that computer! This software in a way is taking away an administrator powers and claiming itself as having those powers(at least to most users without advanced knowledge of regaining control).

Re:Who cares? (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 4 months ago | (#47556157)

I don't think anyone is arguing they have a right to DRM free games, just complaining loudly to EA about their product. Constructive criticism you might call it.

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556197)

Copyright law says otherwise.

In order to gain copyright protection in the first place the work must be released to the public at a later date for others to build upon. That is the price to pay for such protection.

While we can't blame EA that "a later time" is no longer within their expected lifetime, the fact remains they clearly are not in any position to make good on their owed debt to the public, so the onus is on them to convince the public why we should also make good on it, both for this work and every work they publish in the future.

Sorry, but if they don't want to pay the cost of copyright protection then that is on their heads.

   

Re:Who cares? (1)

Drethon (1445051) | about 4 months ago | (#47556209)

How do you vote with your wallet on a free game?

Re:Who cares? (1)

ultranova (717540) | about 4 months ago | (#47556211)

There is no right to a game designed the way you would want to design it. Your right is to vote with your wallets. If the second companies instituted DRM everyone stopped buying their products, then companies would not see DRM as a valid business model.

The question is, do you have an obligation to follow a corrupt law enacted solely to protect corporate interests?

Copyright law, along with the Prohibition and the War on Drugs, are interesting case studies about the limits of law.

Re:Who cares? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556093)

The difference between Steam and SecuROM is that when Steam fucks up, I can't play my game.

When SecuROM 7 fucked up, I couldn't use my DVD burner.

It's not as bad as Starforce, but that's not saying much.

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556141)

Unfortunately games that have a limited number of activations will fail eventually. I have a driving game, my favourite of all time that I can no longer play without pirating (and only singleplayer) because the activation servers were turned off several years ago without any warning or notification.

Re:Who cares? (5, Insightful)

GuB-42 (2483988) | about 4 months ago | (#47555909)

It's free. If you don't like SecuROM, don't install the game.

It would be a valid argument if there were a clear mention of SecuROM before you install the game.

Re:Who cares? (0)

Drethon (1445051) | about 4 months ago | (#47556223)

Does the license agreement say it wont install SecuROM?

Re:Who cares? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555963)

Yeah, sure. That works _IF_ you know that the game has it, which you don't if they don't tell you or your are l337 with your registery wizardy. (Which I'm not and like games.)

Re:Who cares? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555991)

A strong point here is they do not mention they install the DRMware. But you probably think its ok to sell food with huge amounts of arsenic too - because it comes free with the foodstuff and they dont tell you!

Well, it is EA, after all. (1)

hooiberg (1789158) | about 4 months ago | (#47555831)

The past years have taught that releases by EA are not finished and not reliable. Because they keep selling software to customers, they get away with this, though. The only way to educate this company would be by wallet.

Re:Well, it is EA, after all. (1)

AK Marc (707885) | about 4 months ago | (#47555969)

The only way to educate this company would be by wallet.

How does that work with a free game?

Re:Well, it is EA, after all. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556219)

Simple, whenever you can't even give something away, it usually does send a clear message that even idiots like EA can pick up on that they're doing something wrong. And besides, it's not free permanently. It's on a promotion. Is Coke allowed to ship whatever crap they want because they have something on sale or are they still held to standards of their non-sale versions?

Is there an anti-virus type tool for this? (1)

91degrees (207121) | about 4 months ago | (#47555839)

I have no way of knowing what DRM software is on my PC, with the exception of the three I explicitly agreed to (Kindle, audible, and Steam).

I strongly suspect that other apps may have added unwanted crap but how do I find out?

Re:Is there an anti-virus type tool for this? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555983)

As someone who allows ANY form of DRM on their computer, you are a MONSTER and represent everything wrong with the computer industry. I bet you also use facebook, amazon, and paypal.

Thanks for ruining computers and the internet for everyone!

Re:Is there an anti-virus type tool for this? (1)

91degrees (207121) | about 4 months ago | (#47555989)

Yup, yup and yup. Also I use Windows, and Blu-ray discs.

Didn't it include SecuROM in the first place? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555847)

I was always under the impression that The Sims had heinous DRM underpinning it, and it was one of the most painful games to get running correctly.

Just because they're giving it away free, why does this mean that they need to re-enigneer it out of it?

Re:Didn't it include SecuROM in the first place? (1)

SuricouRaven (1897204) | about 4 months ago | (#47555875)

They don't need to re-engineer it out, but it serves no purpose any more. What's the point of having DRM to prevent piracy of something you're giving away for free? Given that Securerom is often a source of technical problems, and that removing it should be trivial for the company that developed the game and still has access to the source and pre-DRM build, there is no good reason for them not to do so - simply as a gesture of goodwill and convenience to their customers.

Re:Didn't it include SecuROM in the first place? (1)

Talderas (1212466) | about 4 months ago | (#47556163)

Well, I'm guessing you don't know the offer they're making. You can get The Sims 2 free if you enter a promotional code (which is only good for one week) when purchasing The Sims 2 in Origin. So the copy of the game is simultaneously available for $X and $0 depending on whether you enter that code. It doesn't make sense to re-engineer it out, when the same copy is being distributed to people using the code and people not using the code and the code will become invalid in August.

Whining about something they get for FREE (0)

imthesponge (621107) | about 4 months ago | (#47555877)

Typical.

Re:Whining about something they get for FREE (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555901)

I could understand if they were complaining about a rootkit in a pirated version, or even if EA just plainly said that this game will root your PC.
Imagine if ubuntu started adding keyloggers to their distro. Would you still tell people to stop complaining because it's free?

Re:Whining about something they get for FREE (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555913)

Technically ubuntu is a keylogger. Something has to record your keystrokes as you type or your keyboard wouldn't work. Every OS roots your PC or it wouldn't be operating your hardware.

Re:Whining about something they get for FREE (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555935)

That's pretty crusty analogy, bro. :D Just having a keyboard driver and an event interface does not define what we usually call a "keylogger".

Re:Whining about something they get for FREE (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555967)

Twenty years ago when computers were crusty and crashed all the time, I installed a keylogger on my own machine because the keylogger was more reliable than my word processor and I didn't have to worry about saving my work every five minutes. True story.

Re:Whining about something they get for FREE (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556205)

Oh, cool idea. :) I appreciate that one.

Re: Whining about something they get for FREE (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556033)

It doesn't log the key events so it isn't a logger.

Re:Whining about something they get for FREE (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555921)

It's funny because Ubuntu sort of added a keylogger to their distro with the Dash shopping lens. And some people did indeed say that no one should complain, because it was their advertising strategy through which we paid for the otherwise free OS.

Re:Whining about something they get for FREE (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556203)

So you *wouldn't * whine if you installed this not knowing it used SecuROM (they don't tell you) and it broke your DVD/CD drive (as it does sometimes)? You consider it acceptable that it breaks your PC because its free?
You are a colossal retard.

Just enjoy the game (2, Insightful)

jones_supa (887896) | about 4 months ago | (#47555907)

Other websites: Celebrating the free release of a classic game.

Slashdot: Angry DRM rant.

Re:Just enjoy the game (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556017)

Not everyone will pull down and bend over whenever the corporation have something to (graciously) give you (for free). nothing wrong with naming and shaming bad companies. go ahead and enjoy the game though. because we know supporting EA is the moral choice, they never did underhanded stuff before. and deserve credit for finally releasing an (inferior) version of a game you could find DRM-free on warez-sites before torrents were invented...

Re:Just enjoy the game (5, Insightful)

mwvdlee (775178) | about 4 months ago | (#47556045)

Other websites: Celebrating the surrepitous distribution of DRM malware.

Slashdot: Angry DRM malware rant.

Re:Just enjoy the game (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556201)

Hmm, maybe we could make a new site celebrating all the new free malware everyone can have. woohoo!

Nobody likes EA (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47555931)

Nevermind SecuROM...

I know it's cliche but... (1)

Cantankerous Cur (3435207) | about 4 months ago | (#47555993)

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

You cant spell Awesome with AE! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47556049)

I smell class action lawsuit!!

Nude Patch (1)

Nyder (754090) | about 4 months ago | (#47556113)

Look, you can all argue over SecureROM, but I downloaded my free Sims 2 and I of course, am going to do what everyone else who isn't bitching is doing, Nude patches.

https://www.google.com/#q=sims... [google.com]

There's a google link to get you all started. First 2 links they want you to pay, screw that.

'First hit is free' model (1)

PPalmgren (1009823) | about 4 months ago | (#47556121)

Lets be real here, the only reason they're releasing this for free is because The Sims 4 is coming out in a few months. With EA, there's always another motive.

Someone should write a limerick that highlights all the good game companies EA has killed or corporatized, it wouldn't be hard but it'd sure be lengthy. Oh how I miss the old Maxis.

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