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Samsung Announces Galaxy Alpha Featuring Metal Frame and Rounded Corners

Unknown Lamer posted about a month ago | from the strange-sense-of-deja-vu dept.

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mrspoonsi (2955715) writes with word that Samsung is hopping on the metal case and rounded corners design bandwagon. From the article: Samsung says a metal frame and curved corners give the Galaxy Alpha a "sophisticated" look. The South Korean company describes the Galaxy Alpha as representing a "new design approach". The firm has previously been criticised for the plastic feel of its handsets at a time when other firms have opted to use materials marketed as having a "premium" feel. Samsung Electronics saw a 20% year-on-year drop in its last quarter's profit. The phone features 2G of RAM, a 4.7" AMOLED display, and either an 8-core Exynos 5 or 4-core Snapdragon 801.

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Another nail in Apple's coffin. (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662307)

And they deserve to die, litigious pricks that they are.

Re:Another nail in Apple's coffin. (0, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662337)

Yeah, because people buy iPhone over Galaxy n strictly because of a metal case and rounded corners.

Idiot.

Re:Another nail in Apple's coffin. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662911)

That sounds about right for the mentality of an Apple user. They don't buy products based on their specs or value, they buy them because "ooh, shiny". Apple users are retards and always have been. That's what Apple counted on when they produced the Macintosh and why PC users have always looked down at them.

Re:Another nail in Apple's coffin. (-1, Troll)

BitZtream (692029) | about a month ago | (#47662425)

Why, because they basically have another reason to say 'look, they're still trying to copy the iPhone look and feel'?

I mean come on, it looks like a overweight/wideload iPhone with a line home button instead of a disc. Its essentially just a retarded looking iPhone copy.

Re:Another nail in Apple's coffin. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662677)

Well, OK, but by your logic all of the car manufacturers should sue each other because their compact cars look almost alike. In fact, heck - most refrigerators look alike too. Let's sue over those. They are all retarded copies!

Unlike copyrights, patents expire (1)

tepples (727027) | about a month ago | (#47662781)

by your logic all of the car manufacturers should sue each other because their compact cars look almost alike.

There's a difference: Unlike copyrights, patents on industrial designs expire. What elements in common among different makes of small family car aren't at least 15 years old?

Re:Unlike copyrights, patents expire (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47663241)

by your logic all of the car manufacturers should sue each other because their compact cars look almost alike.

There's a difference: Unlike copyrights, patents on industrial designs expire. What elements in common among different makes of small family car aren't at least 15 years old?

How about those stupid fucking fake plastic side vents? Also, for your absurd observation to be relevant there would need to have been patents on some of those elements 15 years ago, but there weren't... Car companies, for as archaic and monolithic as they are, are nimble and innovative compared to the assholes at Apple trying to cling to the one successful design of theirs (the look of the original iPhone) for as long as they can keep making money off it by throwing the word "reinvented" at their hordes of idiot customers again and again.

And to make sure you know you're completely wrong, the difference between copyrights and patents is not how they are obtained (both are too easy) or how fast they expire (both can be dragged on for way too long) but how vigorously they need to be defended (let copyright violations slide and you lose the copyright, there is no such caveat with patents).

Re:Another nail in Apple's coffin. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662943)

Its essentially just a retarded looking iPhone copy.

Which is essentially just an LG Prada phone copy which is essentially just a reworking of the Bang and Olufsen's electronics designs which is in the end influenced by 1950s and 1960's architecture (Bauhaus etc. I guess) which is derived from earlier modernist art which is it's self anticipated by hundreds of years old chinese art.

To be a "copy" in any resonable sense, something has to be much closer than any Samsung phone has ever been. To be "original" you need more than metal and rounded corners.

still the same galaxy. dont worry. (5, Funny)

nimbius (983462) | about a month ago | (#47662313)

For those wondering if the dimensions will change with the rounded edges, dont worry. the Galaxy Alpha will still continue to ship with mounting equipment for roadside billboard, stadium jumbotron, and IMAX auditorium. It will also still include the ever popular 130 decibel klaxon for informing you of Amber alerts at 5 AM on a saturday.

Re:still the same galaxy. dont worry. (4, Interesting)

Krojack (575051) | about a month ago | (#47662593)

I know you're just trying to be funny and with the size part you are. I got a Note 2 and sometimes feel that way however I still love the phone. As for the alerts, App Drawer > Emergency Alerts > Menu > Settings > Alert types. You can turn off all alerts except for these so called Presidential alerts. I don't want people thinking it really can't be turned off.

Also I think some devices it's under Settings > Sounds > Emergency tone. You can only set it to vibrate, sound or silent.

Re:still the same galaxy. dont worry. (1)

gunner_von_diamond (3461783) | about a month ago | (#47662701)

It will also still include the ever popular 130 decibel klaxon for informing you of Amber alerts at 5 AM on a saturday.

There's nothing worse than the 130 decibel Amber alerts or "severe weather" alerts during a quiet meeting, and everyone's phone goes off at different times letting everyone know it's raining!

Wow (2)

halivar (535827) | about a month ago | (#47662317)

My Apple-phobic Samsung-fan friends are going to have an aneurysm over this.

Re:Wow (1)

Bender Unit 22 (216955) | about a month ago | (#47662351)

Yeah. Why don't they make up a design of their own for a change. :D

Re:Wow (1, Insightful)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a month ago | (#47662409)

I'm thinking a phone made out of apricot preserves shaped like a ceiling fan.

There are so many possibilities!

Re:Wow (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662357)

Queue Apple patent lawsuit over rounded corners!

Re:Wow (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662755)

Cue the people that can't tell queue from cue, and choose the more complex word!

Cue or queue: What other design patent holders? (1)

tepples (727027) | about a month ago | (#47662811)

The rule is simple: "cue" if there's one, "queue" if there are more than one. But to tell the difference, I first need to know which electronics makers other than Apple have sued Samsung over chassis design patents.

Re:Cue or queue: What other design patent holders? (1)

tysonedwards (969693) | about a month ago | (#47662933)

cue = signal.
queue = line.

Re:Cue or queue: What other design patent holders? (1)

tepples (727027) | about a month ago | (#47663019)

Let me explain my logic further: If there is one, a signal is enough. If there are more than one, they need a line.

Re:Cue or queue: What other design patent holders? (1)

tysonedwards (969693) | about a month ago | (#47663219)

One signal can spawn a queue to form, and a queue need not contain multiple parties, simply a party queueing.

Example 1: A cop beats up an unarmed black man on a street corner in Harlem mid-day because he "looked at him wrong", one act leads to a larger action from multiple parties. (Signal -> Queue of Multiple Parties)
Example 2: Said cop comes back to the station, gets a warning and is told "don't do it again or you'll be suspended." (A queue of a single element relying on a conditional signal.)

Re:Cue or queue: What other design patent holders? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662959)

The rule is simple: "cue" if there's one, "queue" if there are more than one.

That rule may be simple, but it's also incorrect.

I don't get it (5, Insightful)

Rik Sweeney (471717) | about a month ago | (#47662319)

What's the obsession with metal frames? Message boards are filled with hipsters ranting about how cheap a plastic frame looks.

Whenever I get a new phone, the first thing I do is wrap it in a plastic protector to protect the body.

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662375)

You don't need a protector if you're not an abusive user and if your phone is built right
 
I've owned phones from several producers and on various platforms and I've never had an issue. I've dropped the Motorola Droid, iPhone 4 and 5 plus a couple Blackberries. Not a single issue with any of them. The iPhone I currently have has been dropped from 6 feet onto concrete and it has a slight scuff in the outer frame that looks more like the paint wore off than an impact mark.

Re:I don't get it (1)

MetalliQaZ (539913) | about a month ago | (#47662415)

Accidents happen, dude. Who among us has not dropped our phone while trying to turn off the alarm in the morning? And if you want to ever sell it, you need the case to absorb normal wear-and-tear.

Re:I don't get it (1)

war4peace (1628283) | about a month ago | (#47662587)

Who among us has not dropped our phone while trying to turn off the alarm in the morning?

Except for me? Probably quite a few other people.
I never had a protector for any of my phones. My HTC Desire S got its paint scratched on a corner because I kept it in my pocket at all times, wear-and-tear, but I don't sell my old phones, I just keep them stored somewhere.

Re:I don't get it (0)

Lumpy (12016) | about a month ago | (#47662617)

Sane people put the phone in a case so when you drop it it is protected. It's the trendy hipsters that refuse to use a case so that everyone can enjoy the glorious art that their phone is.

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662749)

Alarm? From a phone? Sorry, my phone stays downstairs on the Qi wireless charger at night. I don't want some silly alert or email waking me up. I have this invention called an alarm clock next to my bed. It actually only goes off once every other month or so since I normally wake up before it goes off anyway as I have sleep apnea and toss and turn all night. If I was so silly as to use my phone for an alarm and dropped it - it would bounce nicely on the carpet with no damage. I treat my $15 alarm clock like a $15 alarm clock and my $350 smart phone like a $350 smart phone. Guess which one I don't mind dropping?

Re:I don't get it (1)

Talderas (1212466) | about a month ago | (#47663193)

Ooo Ooo! The $15 smart phone!

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662765)

Accidents happen, dude. Who among us has not dropped our phone while trying to turn off the alarm in the morning? And if you want to ever sell it, you need the case to absorb normal wear-and-tear.

I don't think you typically need to worry about a phone falling from bedside table height unless you have a stone floor, or a really fragile phone. So far I've only ever managed to drop my phone once (it was on concrete), but luckily the phone back was made out of plastic and it only got a hardly perceptible dent. I imagine a metal frame would've caused the display to crack instead of absorbing the impact.

Re:I don't get it (1)

MozeeToby (1163751) | about a month ago | (#47663143)

I'm clumsy, you could argue downright abusive with my phones. I have a toddler who loves to play games and watch movies with it. I used to go through phones every 12 months, minimum, due to damage and destruction.

My 14 month old Note 3 has a single nick on the metal outer frame. It's been dropped at least a couple dozen times including at least a few onto ceramic tile and a few more onto cement. Basically the same thing (both in drops and damage) on the Galaxy Nexus I had before this phone (over 30 months of use). Modern phones are extremely durable. And that's with what was basically the largest glass available for both (at time of purchase anyway).

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662427)

Well, you're certainly not an abusive user, but you are a clumsy one.

Butterfingers.

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662437)

... [various accounts of dropping phones] ...

It's good to know you're not an "abusive user."

Re:I don't get it (1)

Minwee (522556) | about a month ago | (#47662581)

... [various accounts of dropping phones] ...

It's good to know you're not an "abusive user."

He only drops the phone when it makes him angry. It's the phone's fault, really.

Re:I don't get it (1)

rossdee (243626) | about a month ago | (#47662573)

Do you believe that once the Republicans take control of the senate they will repeal the law of gravity?

Re:I don't get it (-1, Troll)

Lumpy (12016) | about a month ago | (#47662629)

No but they are hell bent to repeal the laws of common sense and sanity.

Re: I don't get it (4, Funny)

jd2112 (1535857) | about a month ago | (#47663127)

Gravity doesn't exist. It is just a theory. "intelligent falling" is what keeps everything from floating away.

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662819)

Funny, because when the iphone antenna thing came up didnt Apple gave away free protective covers.
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4389

"...to request a free black iPhone 4 Bumper"

Using your logic, that would that imply the phone was not built right?

Your comment about dropping your iphone 6 feet is laughable considering how many broken iphone screens i see on my daily commute.

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662391)

Yep, it appears to be impossible to get solid information about the things that actually matters about the phone.

I'm currently looking for a good phone for an EEng. Typically I won't use the smarthpone capabilities in the work much since I sit in front of a computer anyway but that doesn't mean that I get a useless blob of bloat when I buy an expensive phone.

Sadly everything the reviewers rant about appears to things that only matters to hipsters.

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662475)

Yep, it appears to be impossible to get solid information about the things that actually matters about the phone.

I'm currently looking for a good phone for an EEng. Typically I won't use the smarthpone capabilities in the work much since I sit in front of a computer anyway but that doesn't mean that I get a useless blob of bloat when I buy an expensive phone.

Sadly everything the reviewers rant about appears to things that only matters to hipsters.

That's what I tell people whenever they comment on my old flip-phone, I spend at least 12 hours a day near a computer so the my "need" for internet on my phone is very small.

That and I HATE touchscreens.

Re:I don't get it (1)

RyuuzakiTetsuya (195424) | about a month ago | (#47662889)

hipsters

Who are these magical hipsters the tech community seems to be obsessed with?

Re:I don't get it (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a month ago | (#47662413)

Whenever I get a new phone, the first thing I do is wrap it in a plastic protector to protect the body.

And then coat it in shiny metal!

Re:I don't get it (4, Insightful)

Russ1642 (1087959) | about a month ago | (#47662465)

I never understood this. Teams of engineers cram the electronics into the smallest, lightest case they can, and then the end users goes and shoves it in a 1/4" thick rubber sleeve.

Re:I don't get it (1)

timeOday (582209) | about a month ago | (#47662735)

Is it any stranger than designer t-shirts? Or needlessly large homes? The point is to show everybody you have money.

Large homes (1, Insightful)

tepples (727027) | about a month ago | (#47662851)

A home that appears "needlessly large" to some may in fact be "needfully large" to the occupants. For example, they may have more kids or regular house guests than you're aware of, or they may have rooms dedicated to a home office or studio.

Re:Large homes (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47663017)

A home that appears "needlessly large" to some may in fact be "needfully large" to the occupants. For example, they may have more kids or regular house guests than you're aware of, or they may have rooms dedicated to a home office or studio.

Yup, some people cannot understand that others have different personal space requirements and use their home for more than just a place to sleep.

Re:I don't get it (1)

serviscope_minor (664417) | about a month ago | (#47663237)

I never understood this. Teams of engineers cram the electronics into the smallest, lightest case they can, and then the end users goes and shoves it in a 1/4" thick rubber sleeve.

That's because users don't actually want the smallest, thinnest lightest case that's possible to make. They want a phone that's small enough, thin enough, light enough and offers adequate protection so the screen doesn't shatter really easily.

Re:I don't get it (1)

jellomizer (103300) | about a month ago | (#47662509)

I would be happier if you could easily and cheaply replace broken parts.
It isn't uncommon for these cases cost over $30.00. Now if I could say replace the glass pain, that is most likely to break for $40.00 it may still be a good deal as you don't always break your phone.

Re:I don't get it (1)

Lumpy (12016) | about a month ago | (#47662643)

"It isn't uncommon for these cases cost over $30.00."
only the trendy crap sold at best buy. I bought an otterbox commuter for $19 online. you can get china cases for as little as $4.00 with free shipping.

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662901)

Otterboxes are made in China as well, although I was surprised to learn that some of them are made in the US. "Trendy crap" is likely from China too. Just slap on a different label and multiply the price by 10 :-)

Re:I don't get it (1)

jellomizer (103300) | about a month ago | (#47662927)

That is why I preference my statement with "It isn't uncommon"

Yes you can get cheaper ones. But your $23.00 case isn't that much cheaper than $30.00. Espectially if like me you keep the same case for years.

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662953)

Or ones with features like S View and QI Wireless charging tend to cost a bit simply because it's not a cheap piece of plastic and some vinyl.

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662795)

That does sound like a pain.

Re:I don't get it (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662623)

Translation: I don't understand why people want metal frames because I don't care. Thank you for the insight.

Tail Fins (1)

Sloppy (14984) | about a month ago | (#47662727)

What's the obsession with...[computer enclosure flavor of the month]?

There was a cartoon in some [Amiga-oriented, I think?] magazine about a quarter century ago. It was a guy showing off a computer in an unusual case, saying "We figured out what users want isn't more power or increased applications, but rather, really cool tail fins."

So... (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662339)

So Samsung goes out of their way to slag Apple about their stylistic approach to phones only to copy them? Wow. Just wow. Now you should understand why most iPhone fanboys laugh an Samesung.

New Design Approach (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662355)

Samsung says a metal frame and curved corners give the Galaxy Alpha a "sophisticated" look. The South Korean company describes the Galaxy Alpha as representing a "new design approach". ..

A metal frame with curved corners? A new design approach? Yeah. A new design approach, assuming you've never seen an iPhone from the past several years...

I know, it's wacky to accuse Samsung of copying Apple. That would never happen.

Re:New Design Approach (1)

ganjadude (952775) | about a month ago | (#47662459)

you think apple is the only smartphone out there with a metal frame and rounded corners?? how cute

Re:New Design Approach (2)

Minwee (522556) | about a month ago | (#47662605)

It's true. Every phone that wasn't Designed By Apple In California looks just like this [in.com] .

Re:New Design Approach (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662659)

No, he thinks the iPhone is the only phone that looks just like an iPhone, up until this moment at least.

Re:New Design Approach (1)

gnasher719 (869701) | about a month ago | (#47662863)

you think apple is the only smartphone out there with a metal frame and rounded corners?? how cute

Fact is, Samsung did build a phone that looked very, very similar to the iPhone 3GS. Fact is also that after that, they built phones that didn't look at all like iPhones (neither old nor new ones), except I have no idea whether anything they build looks like an iPhone 5c, which itself doesn't look like an iPhone to me :-)

What I saw in the link looks exactly like an iPhone 5s to me, so I'd think there is trouble ahead.

Re:New Design Approach (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47663049)

Sorry. You're right. Lots of companies are copying Apple's design in an attempt to tap into the iPhone sales success. I was silly to only imply that Samsung is doing it.

Mind you, this article is about Samsung coming out with a new and sophisticated design approach (LOL!) so I figured focusing my comment on Samsung was relevant. Silly me. /sarcasm

Re:New Design Approach (1)

BronsCon (927697) | about a month ago | (#47662739)

The BlackBerry Z10 looks much more like an iPhone than anything Samsung has ever made, but I don't hear Apple (or anyone, really) saying a thing about it. Why is that? In fact, the BlackBerry Z30 looks an awful lot like the HTC One M7 (from the front, at least) which, itself, looks a lot like an iPhone (again, from the front).

Not a word about BlackBerry copying Apple, or copying HTC, who copied Apple, or, hell, even HTC copying Apple. In an ironic twist, the upcoming iPhone 6 looks a lot like the HTC One M8 that came out in March, but, again, not a word of that from anyone.

Re: New Design Approach (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662893)

Apple and HTC have a cross licence deal

http://www.androidauthority.com/apple-htc-patent-licensing-deal-130326/

The Blackberry was criticised at the time, but they're largely irrelevent

Alpha? (1)

H0p313ss (811249) | about a month ago | (#47662359)

I'll wait for the Beta, or perhaps a release candidate.

Re:Alpha? (1)

marcello_dl (667940) | about a month ago | (#47662419)

Heresy! Alpha 64 is the bestest ever.

Re:Alpha? (1)

Eosi (3781645) | about a month ago | (#47662725)

If I get the Alpha now, and the Beta later, can I combine them for a massive missile platform like in Robotech?

Wrong website. (1)

Seumas (6865) | about a month ago | (#47662361)

Granted, I don't come here much anymore, but . . . seeing the top post on the front page being about an updated cell phone style change makes one wonder if they've accidentally stumbled upon gdgt.com, engadget, gizmodo, twit.tv, or cnet, instead of slashdot.

Re:Wrong website. (1)

PopeRatzo (965947) | about a month ago | (#47662435)

You don't think Samsung's announcement that their new phone will be made of liquid metal from the Terminator 2 movie is news for nerds?

Well, that's how I read it.

Re:Wrong website. (1)

Seumas (6865) | about a month ago | (#47662453)

Nope. Not in the least.

My take (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662369)

Samsung went from the status of "rising son..y" to that of the "declining sony" without getting the "zenith of sony" status, which means: producing sturdy and advanced stuff and selling it a bit higher than the competition.

I can't blame them, this is not the consumer electronic market of the 80/90s. That market would have stomped hipster headphones under their feet, together with all mp3 gear.

I suggest the samsung corporation to compete exclusively in price in their samsung stuff, letting it die if so happens, and buy a couple serious brands and produce serious stuff with it. Everybody owns some samsung, and nobody says with pride "it's a samsung".

On the other hand I know next to nothing about managing stuff :D

Hey, that looks like a ... (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about a month ago | (#47662389)

No, I'm not joking, with minor differences, they are seriously trying to look the same as the fruit. This is a bit ridiculous. Yes, its different, but there is no doubt its trying to look the same.

Re:Hey, that looks like a ... (1)

Shortguy881 (2883333) | about a month ago | (#47662451)

It looks more like the HTC One. In fact its almost identical, especially with the metal case.

Re:Hey, that looks like a ... (1)

Lumpy (12016) | about a month ago | (#47662663)

But does it come with the buckets of SUCK that HTC piles into the OS? HTC Sense and blinkfeed utterly ruin the Android experience.

Re:Hey, that looks like a ... (1)

Shortguy881 (2883333) | about a month ago | (#47662745)

My point was on the external phone designs themselves. As for the blinkfeed and Sense software, luckily, you can disable it.

Re:Hey, that looks like a ... (1)

slimshady76 (3752059) | about a month ago | (#47662967)

It will surely come with Samsung's proprietary buckets of SUCK, namely TouchWiz. They need multi-core processors because TW likes to rest its fat ass on top of two or three of them at one time doing nothing but spending precious clock cycles and thus your battery.

I quit buying Samsung (4, Insightful)

stoolpigeon (454276) | about a month ago | (#47662431)

I bought a Galaxy S and then the Galaxy S3 - and after seeing how poor the support was on the Samsung side in terms of updating and Android I have decided not to purchase any more of their phones. I had no problems with the hardware. The software decisions that Samsung makes and the fact that they seem no longer interested once the product is out the door was why I left.

In the middle of all that I bought one of their ultrabooks and ran into the same issue.

I don't have any plans to buy anything they've made unless I learn they've somehow turned this behavior around.

Re:I quit buying Samsung (5, Insightful)

balaband (1286038) | about a month ago | (#47662511)

Yeah....but name manufacturer that is better then them?

They all suck.

With galaxy line (because of the number of units they sell) - you at least know you are covered with cyanogen (or some other) mod.

Re:I quit buying Samsung (1)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662637)

Actually, Motorola does a good job with pushing out updates (at least with Moto X, G, E).

Re:I quit buying Samsung (1)

balaband (1286038) | about a month ago | (#47662773)

I don't know about those but my Razr MAXX is still 4.1.2...and it is not exactly an "old phone"

And let us not forget that Motorola was owned by Google...and they still didn't manage to update it in that time

Re:I quit buying Samsung (1)

Miamicanes (730264) | about a month ago | (#47663141)

Actually, Motorola does a good job with pushing out updates (at least with Moto X, G, E).

Maybe... but they actively & intentionally FUCKED everyone unfortunate enough to buy one of their phones before then. As if it wasn't bad enough that they decided to break their promise (advertised, in writing) to eventually ship ICS for the Photon & Atrix2, they ALSO rolled out a trojan update (2.3.4) whose sole purpose was to permalock the bootloader and make sure end users couldn't upgrade the Photon/Atrix2 to ICS on their own, either.

It's widely believed among former Photon/Atrix2 owners that Moto deployed the new permalocking-bootloader with protections to prevent future updates, then discovered (too late) that the new bootloader had a bug that rendered it unable to safely repartition the flash to accommodate the larger /system partition needed by ICS.

I really hope there's an extra-toasty spot in hell where Motorola's execs can burn forever as punishment for what they did to us.

#motofail #neveragain

Re:I quit buying Samsung (2)

stoolpigeon (454276) | about a month ago | (#47662695)

Nexus and Moto G phones are what I've bought since for my family. I'm still using the S3 running cyanogen but personally I prefer the stock Android experience to cyanogen as well. But that is a good point that there are options still there.

My tablet is an original Nexus 7 and my son has one of the new ones. My experience with those and motorola phones has me thinking that's the direction I'll look first as long as the current situation persists.

Re:I quit buying Samsung (1)

clonehappy (655530) | about a month ago | (#47662801)

Yeah....but name manufacturer that is better then them?

Better than Samsung? Motorola, Apple, LG, and HTC for starters. I've never understood the hype around Samsung's Android phones, they are cheap plastic, have the ugliest skin (TouchWiz) out of all the manufacturers and have always had sub-par RF performance on every one I've ever owned.

Stick with the high-end models from any of the big names and you'll have a better experience than on a Samsung Galaxy. And I've owned a bunch of high-end Android phones over the years and have not yet had one that didn't have at least decent Cyanogen support. Say what you will about Apple, as well, I'm not a big fan of the walled garden, but the hardware and build quality is top notch. Also, the LG G2/G3, HTC One Series, and almost all recent Motorolas (Droid MAXX, HD, X, G) have a very premium look and feel to them, lightyears ahead of Samsung and generally a bit cheaper.

I suppose marketing hype really is everything, as I've never been "wowed" by any of Samsung's products.

Re:I quit buying Samsung (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662955)

How about Apple... They address every single one of GP's complaints.

Re:I quit buying Samsung (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47663059)

The Galaxy S3 started from 4.0 to to 4.3 over the course of 2-3 years which is 3-4 major updates. This includes *ALL* features of each version of the OS, not having some major flagship feature removed like other OSes just so they can claim everyone's on the latest version.

The 4.3 update even backported some of the new features from the Galaxy S4.

There's only so much you can do with older hardware before it becomes unreasonable to support it due to RAM or CPU constraints. Just do a quick google of " update made my phone slow" and watch the complaints pour in.

So, Samsung has decided to make the switch. (1)

NemoinSpace (1118137) | about a month ago | (#47662433)

From being a manufacturer of throw away drug dealer phones to a manufacturer of phones that drug dealers want to steal. Still, they are going to have a hard time competing against the upcoming Windows 12 units with dual core I7's, especially if they throw in the cooling tower/battery backpack.
Go ahead and mod this as a troll if you want. Anyone who writes an article portraying Samsung or Apple as relevant tech companies is just asking for it anyway.
Linux phones still have a chance to make the best contribution to convergence, but they will just piss it away like they did in every other area under the guise of freedom. That leaves us with some indian guy at Microsoft force feeding you the next generation of shit that even Intel doesn't want to make anymore

Re:So, Samsung has decided to make the switch. (1)

NemoinSpace (1118137) | about a month ago | (#47662485)

Dammit i meant dual pocessor i7's. Actually, I'm not sure what I meant, except to portray the fact that I'm pretty disgusted by living in a world where fuckheads still make a big deal out of some cheap stunt Edison pulled off 100 years ago. Retards.

"Sophisticated" look (1, Insightful)

nine-times (778537) | about a month ago | (#47662577)

Samsung says a metal frame and curved corners give the Galaxy Alpha a "sophisticated" look. The South Korean company describes the Galaxy Alpha as representing a "new design approach".

I like how the "new design approach" and "sophisticated look" boil down to "making it look more like an iPhone 4."

Re:"Sophisticated" look (2, Insightful)

LordLucless (582312) | about a month ago | (#47662729)

It's a mobile. It's basically a rectangular screeen. There's not really much space for design innovation.

Besides, since when have mobiles not had rounded corners?

Re:"Sophisticated" look (1)

gnasher719 (869701) | about a month ago | (#47662913)

It's a mobile. It's basically a rectangular screeen. There's not really much space for design innovation.

In Raymond Loewy's biography, he mentioned being hired by a company whose design was ripped off (in their opinion), and the copycat claimed exactly what you said. So a week later he appeared in court as a witness, with three totally different designs that looked nothing at all like the design that was claimed to be impossible to change.

Re:"Sophisticated" look (1)

Selur (2745445) | about a month ago | (#47662761)

to me all smart-phones basically look the same :)

Re:"Sophisticated" look (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662771)

http://www.dailytech.com/Samsung+Apples+iPhone+Started+as+Sony+Ripoff/article25277.htm

The Galaxy Alpha? Excellent! (3, Funny)

Minwee (522556) | about a month ago | (#47662611)

I am very happy to hear that Samsung is releasing a new phone that can run Windows NT, OpenVMS and Digital UNIX equally well.

Who cares? (2)

rebelwarlock (1319465) | about a month ago | (#47662625)

"We made our phone look a little different" isn't news for nerds, or anyone, really.

Re:Who cares? (1)

Dixie_Flatline (5077) | about a month ago | (#47662841)

Actually, the actual news is, "we made our phone not look at all different...from other phones".

Seriously, Samsung needs to stop spending so much on advertising and buy a design team. Sony and HTC have their own (very nice) looks, I think. I'm an iPhone user, and this new Samsung looks like a bigger version of my iPhone 4.

Stuff that matters? (1)

jenningsthecat (1525947) | about a month ago | (#47662689)

I suppose this qualifies as News for Nerds, but really, don't we have better things to talk about than the "premium feel" of a gadget? I don't see much in the way of fun so far in the comments, and it's not like this latest bit of shiny is going to have any significant impact on anyone beyond Samsung's shareholders.

TFA seems more like a Slashvertisement than a news piece to me.

RoundRects for everyone! (1)

cant_get_a_good_nick (172131) | about a month ago | (#47662817)

For those that jibe at the Steve Jobs design aesthetic, so we have a non-Apple company shouting "look at us, we have a metal slab that's a RoundRect too!" Not sure if this makes it more or less silly.

Hmm, a MetalBody RoundRect with 4.7" screen - released right before the iPhone 6 release party.... What are the odds?

(RoundRect was what the Rounded-corner Rectangle was called in old Apple developer docs, either when drawing a button, or using that shape directly in QuickDraw).

Real super (1)

Impy the Impiuos Imp (442658) | about a month ago | (#47662855)

2 Gig
Same processor, maybe small speed bump
4.7 Super amoled, scarcely larger than my 3 year old phone
Concern about superficialities like plastic vs. metal case

May be time to move on from Samsung.

4 and 8 cores? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47662993)

I'm not trying to be rude, but do people really need smartphones with 8 cores? Who is this smartphone for? Can existing applications use 4 or 8 cores? Are people trying to render 3D graphics using Maya or Luxrender? Does the phone have Intel multithreading? (just kidding)

But really, who would buy this smartphone? Just asking. In case you are wondering, I have an old Boost Mobile candy-bar phone that works just fine.

Plastic Metal (1)

MaWeiTao (908546) | about a month ago | (#47662997)

I don't get the obsessive appeal of phones with metal shells. Every iPhone I've ever seen that's led a life case-free really shows it's age, with all kinds of scuffs and obvious wear. The wear on plastic phones is far less apparent because the scratches don't show nearly as much.

I suppose excessive wear plus for the device maker as a motivator to get consumers to upgrade on a regular basis. It certainly helps that your average stupid consumer equates cold metal with luxury.

There was a day... (1)

HotNeedleOfInquiry (598897) | about a month ago | (#47663201)

When geeks knew why 1 megabyte didn't exactly equal 1,000,000 and weren't interested in fashion accessories. I miss the olden times...
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